Miss Cleo might have an update. Nah, JK, coverage starts at 11:00.
What's your take onToney vs Rahman?
Miss Cleo might have an update. Nah, JK, coverage starts at 11:00.
Miss Cleo might have an update. Nah, JK, coverage starts at 11:00.
Good to hear we are on the same side Wee. I completely agree.
Good to hear we are on the same side Wee. I completely agree.
I've been deliberating on this one all week, and as much as I hate Toney for campaigning at heavyweight, I haven't found a reason to lay chalk on Hasim Rahman. What Toney has chosen to do with the last days of his hall of fame career is a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, and it makes a mockery of his talent.
But none of that necessarily precludes him from beating C and B- level heavyweights. Just remember that this is a boxing match, not a body building contest. In the last meeting between these two, I apparently saw a much closer fight than Harold Lederman and others in this thread, but I'll concede that Rahman probably won 7 rounds due to Toney's lack of activity. Toney was 237 for that fight, heaviest of his career. He's about 10 pounds lighter, as an older man, for this fight. Toney has boxed 24 rounds with Sam Peter in the interim (and split those fights in my view). Rahman has been savagely knocked out by a journeyman (whom Peter destroyed in short order), beaten a few bums, and looked worst than I have ever seen him before stopping Zuri Lawrence, a bum, in the last round.
In that first fight, I saw Toney land the much cleaner, sharper blows, despite being the smaller man. He could literally hit Rock with looping right hands whenever he felt like it, and I believe Toney has the voltage to stop Rahman tonight with sharp combination punching. Alternatively, I see little chance for Rahman to land cleanly enough to stop Toney, who has one of the greatest chins of all time, and is simply too slick for Rock. Toney is a class above Rahman, and his weight would indicate that he's ready to prove it this time around.
Good luck to everyone laying chalk on a dead fighter, I'll take Fat Toney +110 for 2 units with a bonus bet on Toney ITD.
Good luck to us. Don't forget Rahman's effort against Sykes also.
Black Buddha to the bank.
I've been deliberating on this one all week, and as much as I hate Toney for campaigning at heavyweight, I haven't found a reason to lay chalk on Hasim Rahman. What Toney has chosen to do with the last days of his hall of fame career is a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, and it makes a mockery of his talent.
But none of that necessarily precludes him from beating C and B- level heavyweights. Just remember that this is a boxing match, not a body building contest. In the last meeting between these two, I apparently saw a much closer fight than Harold Lederman and others in this thread, but I'll concede that Rahman probably won 7 rounds due to Toney's lack of activity. Toney was 237 for that fight, heaviest of his career. He's about 10 pounds lighter, as an older man, for this fight. Toney has boxed 24 rounds with Sam Peter in the interim (and split those fights in my view). Rahman has been savagely knocked out by a journeyman (whom Peter destroyed in short order), beaten a few bums, and looked worst than I have ever seen him before stopping Zuri Lawrence, a bum, in the last round.
In that first fight, I saw Toney land the much cleaner, sharper blows, despite being the smaller man. He could literally hit Rock with looping right hands whenever he felt like it, and I believe Toney has the voltage to stop Rahman tonight with sharp combination punching. Alternatively, I see little chance for Rahman to land cleanly enough to stop Toney, who has one of the greatest chins of all time, and is simply too slick for Rock. Toney is a class above Rahman, and his weight would indicate that he's ready to prove it this time around.
Good luck to everyone laying chalk on a dead fighter, I'll take Fat Toney +110 for 2 units with a bonus bet on Toney ITD.
Good luck to us. Don't forget Rahman's effort against Sykes also.
Black Buddha to the bank.
A no decision how
I'd rather this went the distance and took the chance at a loss than this crap.
I think Rahman got caught in the third round and didnt want to fight anymore
A no decision how
I'd rather this went the distance and took the chance at a loss than this crap.
I think Rahman got caught in the third round and didnt want to fight anymore
They change the decision
Horrible show
Whats even dumber my book has already graded this bet as no action
wonder how long before they change it
over /under 10 minutes??
Congrads on Toney backers but this was horrible .
Someone should have told Rahman that if the fight was over he lost
They change the decision
Horrible show
Whats even dumber my book has already graded this bet as no action
wonder how long before they change it
over /under 10 minutes??
Congrads on Toney backers but this was horrible .
Someone should have told Rahman that if the fight was over he lost
Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.
Lol at least someone sees the truth. This guy is horrible. Gets hit with a few good shots and says he can't see. There was no blood even coming out of the cut, so for him to say that blood was dripping into his eye was dumb. James Toney did start to look good in that 3rd round, and that was going to be the end of the Rock. I think they did make the right ruling by saying Toney wins because he did technically quit by saying he couldn't see. Nice hit for everyone on Toney ![]()
Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.
Lol at least someone sees the truth. This guy is horrible. Gets hit with a few good shots and says he can't see. There was no blood even coming out of the cut, so for him to say that blood was dripping into his eye was dumb. James Toney did start to look good in that 3rd round, and that was going to be the end of the Rock. I think they did make the right ruling by saying Toney wins because he did technically quit by saying he couldn't see. Nice hit for everyone on Toney ![]()
The cut was not even bleeding.
The cut was not even bleeding.
LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.
Wee- Couldn't agree more. That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab." I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.
Sportsfan, TPJW
Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.
Wee- Couldn't agree more. That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab." I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.
Sportsfan, TPJW
Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
Boo Yah Boys. I deserved that after the Cortez debacle.
LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.
Wee- Couldn't agree more. That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab." I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.
Sportsfan, TPJW
Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
Boo Yah Boys. I deserved that after the Cortez debacle.
LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.
Wee- Couldn't agree more. That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab." I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.
Sportsfan, TPJW
Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
The only thing Sleazy about this fight was Rahman looking for the easy way out rather that get his arse handed to him by a fat Middleweight. Rahman loses all justification when he said he could not see with the blood in his eye. This was on a cut that DID NOT bleed.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
The only thing Sleazy about this fight was Rahman looking for the easy way out rather that get his arse handed to him by a fat Middleweight. Rahman loses all justification when he said he could not see with the blood in his eye. This was on a cut that DID NOT bleed.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer.
Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.
Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time? No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time. These things balance out anyway with betting boxing. Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..
Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer.
Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.
Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time? No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time. These things balance out anyway with betting boxing. Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer.
Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.
Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time? No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time. These things balance out anyway with betting boxing. Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
I took what you said the wrong way. Sorry
Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer.
Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.
Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time? No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time. These things balance out anyway with betting boxing. Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
I took what you said the wrong way. Sorry
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