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    What's your take onToney vs Rahman?

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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 9:48 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Gridophiles:

    Anyone have any updates on the fight?  I can't seem to find anything on-line.


    Miss Cleo might have an update.  Nah, JK, coverage starts at 11:00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gridophiles:

    Anyone have any updates on the fight?  I can't seem to find anything on-line.


    Miss Cleo might have an update.  Nah, JK, coverage starts at 11:00.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 9:49 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by weepaul:

    I have a hefty wager on Toney. He has looked like shit the past couple of years due to no motivation.
     
    Rahman has looked like shit the past couple of years due to no talent. He was in good shape for Zuri and still looked like shit.


    Good to hear we are on the same side Wee.  I completely agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weepaul:

    I have a hefty wager on Toney. He has looked like shit the past couple of years due to no motivation.
     
    Rahman has looked like shit the past couple of years due to no talent. He was in good shape for Zuri and still looked like shit.


    Good to hear we are on the same side Wee.  I completely agree.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 9:51 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    I've been deliberating on this one all week, and as much as I hate Toney for campaigning at heavyweight, I haven't found a reason to lay chalk on Hasim Rahman. What Toney has chosen to do with the last days of his hall of fame career is a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, and it makes a mockery of his talent.

    But none of that necessarily precludes him from beating C and B- level heavyweights. Just remember that this is a boxing match, not a body building contest. In the last meeting between these two, I apparently saw a much closer fight than Harold Lederman and others in this thread, but I'll concede that Rahman probably won 7 rounds due to Toney's lack of activity. Toney was 237 for that fight, heaviest of his career. He's about 10 pounds lighter, as an older man, for this fight. Toney has boxed 24 rounds with Sam Peter in the interim (and split those fights in my view). Rahman has been savagely knocked out by a journeyman (whom Peter destroyed in short order), beaten a few bums, and looked worst than I have ever seen him before stopping Zuri Lawrence, a bum, in the last round.

    In that first fight, I saw Toney land the much cleaner, sharper blows, despite being the smaller man. He could literally hit Rock with looping right hands whenever he felt like it, and I believe Toney has the voltage to stop Rahman tonight with sharp combination punching. Alternatively, I see little chance for Rahman to land cleanly enough to stop Toney, who has one of the greatest chins of all time, and is simply too slick for Rock. Toney is a class above Rahman, and his weight would indicate that he's ready to prove it this time around.

    Good luck to everyone laying chalk on a dead fighter, I'll take Fat Toney +110 for 2 units with a bonus bet on Toney ITD.


    Good luck to us.  Don't forget Rahman's effort against Sykes also.

    Black Buddha to the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    I've been deliberating on this one all week, and as much as I hate Toney for campaigning at heavyweight, I haven't found a reason to lay chalk on Hasim Rahman. What Toney has chosen to do with the last days of his hall of fame career is a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, and it makes a mockery of his talent.

    But none of that necessarily precludes him from beating C and B- level heavyweights. Just remember that this is a boxing match, not a body building contest. In the last meeting between these two, I apparently saw a much closer fight than Harold Lederman and others in this thread, but I'll concede that Rahman probably won 7 rounds due to Toney's lack of activity. Toney was 237 for that fight, heaviest of his career. He's about 10 pounds lighter, as an older man, for this fight. Toney has boxed 24 rounds with Sam Peter in the interim (and split those fights in my view). Rahman has been savagely knocked out by a journeyman (whom Peter destroyed in short order), beaten a few bums, and looked worst than I have ever seen him before stopping Zuri Lawrence, a bum, in the last round.

    In that first fight, I saw Toney land the much cleaner, sharper blows, despite being the smaller man. He could literally hit Rock with looping right hands whenever he felt like it, and I believe Toney has the voltage to stop Rahman tonight with sharp combination punching. Alternatively, I see little chance for Rahman to land cleanly enough to stop Toney, who has one of the greatest chins of all time, and is simply too slick for Rock. Toney is a class above Rahman, and his weight would indicate that he's ready to prove it this time around.

    Good luck to everyone laying chalk on a dead fighter, I'll take Fat Toney +110 for 2 units with a bonus bet on Toney ITD.


    Good luck to us.  Don't forget Rahman's effort against Sykes also.

    Black Buddha to the bank.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:51 PM ET #29

    Jesus Christ

    A no decision how

    I'd rather this went the distance and took the chance at a loss than this crap.

    I think Rahman got caught in the third round and didnt want to fight anymore
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    Jesus Christ

    A no decision how

    I'd rather this went the distance and took the chance at a loss than this crap.

    I think Rahman got caught in the third round and didnt want to fight anymore
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:52 PM ET #30

    what happened?

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    what happened?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:56 PM ET #31

    well that sucked
     
    BTW can Toney fight John Salley for the rest of the fight?
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    well that sucked
     
    BTW can Toney fight John Salley for the rest of the fight?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:56 PM ET #32

    he quit and gets a no contest out of it...lame
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    he quit and gets a no contest out of it...lame
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:57 PM ET #33

    JAMES TONEY WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    JAMES TONEY WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:57 PM ET #34

    wow that was a waste of money
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    wow that was a waste of money
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2008 - 11:58 PM ET #35

    Toney gets credited with a TKO!!!!!!
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    Toney gets credited with a TKO!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:00 AM ET #36

    The boxing Gods are trying to make up for the Humberto Soto DQ.
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    The boxing Gods are trying to make up for the Humberto Soto DQ.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:01 AM ET #37

    Wow even er

    They change the decision

    Horrible show

    Whats even dumber my book has already graded this bet as no action
    wonder how long before they change it

    over /under 10 minutes??



    Congrads on Toney backers but this was horrible .

    Someone should have told Rahman that if the fight was over he lost
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    Wow even er

    They change the decision

    Horrible show

    Whats even dumber my book has already graded this bet as no action
    wonder how long before they change it

    over /under 10 minutes??



    Congrads on Toney backers but this was horrible .

    Someone should have told Rahman that if the fight was over he lost
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:02 AM ET #38

     
    wait, what ?
     
    that was unexpected
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    wait, what ?
     
    that was unexpected
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:02 AM ET #39

     
    wait, what ?
     
    that was unexpected
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    wait, what ?
     
    that was unexpected
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:04 AM ET #40

    I feel violated
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    I feel violated
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:07 AM ET #41

    Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.
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    Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:09 AM ET #42

    I think this decision will be overturned on appeal

    but who gives a shit its not going to bring my money back
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    I think this decision will be overturned on appeal

    but who gives a shit its not going to bring my money back
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:11 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.

    Lol at least someone sees the truth. This guy is horrible. Gets hit with a few good shots and says he can't see. There was no blood even coming out of the cut, so for him to say that blood was dripping into his eye was dumb. James Toney did start to look good in that 3rd round, and that was going to be the end of the Rock. I think they did make the right ruling by saying Toney wins because he did technically quit by saying he couldn't see. Nice hit for everyone on Toney

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    Rahman is a complete bum. I hope they make this fight again.

    Lol at least someone sees the truth. This guy is horrible. Gets hit with a few good shots and says he can't see. There was no blood even coming out of the cut, so for him to say that blood was dripping into his eye was dumb. James Toney did start to look good in that 3rd round, and that was going to be the end of the Rock. I think they did make the right ruling by saying Toney wins because he did technically quit by saying he couldn't see. Nice hit for everyone on Toney

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:12 AM ET #44

    I am so happy they gave the win to Toney. Rahman was looking for the easy pay day as he had been hit and hurt by Toney. He was looking for an easy way out and easy payday.

    The cut was not even bleeding.
     
    I am happy that this cowardly big Fucker is not getting the no contest. If the cut had happened to Toney, THERE IS NO WAY HE WOULD HAVE QUIT.
     
    Two big thumbs up.
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    I am so happy they gave the win to Toney. Rahman was looking for the easy pay day as he had been hit and hurt by Toney. He was looking for an easy way out and easy payday.

    The cut was not even bleeding.
     
    I am happy that this cowardly big Fucker is not getting the no contest. If the cut had happened to Toney, THERE IS NO WAY HE WOULD HAVE QUIT.
     
    Two big thumbs up.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:21 AM ET #45

    Boo Yah Boys.  I deserved that after the Cortez debacle. 

    LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.

    Wee- Couldn't agree more.  That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab."  I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.

    Sportsfan, TPJW

    Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
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    Boo Yah Boys.  I deserved that after the Cortez debacle. 

    LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.

    Wee- Couldn't agree more.  That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab."  I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.

    Sportsfan, TPJW

    Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:29 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Boo Yah Boys.  I deserved that after the Cortez debacle. 

    LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.

    Wee- Couldn't agree more.  That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab."  I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.

    Sportsfan, TPJW

    Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.


    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Boo Yah Boys.  I deserved that after the Cortez debacle. 

    LMS- You nailed it with your last comment.

    Wee- Couldn't agree more.  That third round Toney schooled Hasim and made his legs do a "Zab."  I don't think Rock wanted anymore of Black Buddha tonight.

    Sportsfan, TPJW

    Checked a few minutes ago and my wager hadn't been graded yet, here's hoping they abide by their own rules of the decision that is announced in the ring.


    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:34 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by tpjw44:

    Toney gets credited with a TKO!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpjw44:

    Toney gets credited with a TKO!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:37 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by bigamer:



    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
    What the fuck are you talking about bud. I am sure most boxing gamblers have been on the wrong side of a dopey ref or the 3 blind mice as judges. Fullbrights is happy he was on the other side for a change.

    The only thing Sleazy about this fight was Rahman looking for the easy way out rather that get his arse handed to him by a fat Middleweight. Rahman loses all justification when he said he could not see with the blood in his eye. This was on a cut that DID NOT bleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigamer:



    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.
    What the fuck are you talking about bud. I am sure most boxing gamblers have been on the wrong side of a dopey ref or the 3 blind mice as judges. Fullbrights is happy he was on the other side for a change.

    The only thing Sleazy about this fight was Rahman looking for the easy way out rather that get his arse handed to him by a fat Middleweight. Rahman loses all justification when he said he could not see with the blood in his eye. This was on a cut that DID NOT bleed.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:38 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by bigamer:



    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.


    Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer. 

    Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.

    Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time?  No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time.  These things balance out anyway with betting boxing.  Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigamer:



    Wow you "deserved " a wrong decision because you feel you got screwed another time?? Thats pretty low and sleazy..


    Sure maybe Rahman was bailing ,but because of the headbutt it should have been a no decision whether or not he was looking for a way out.


    Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer. 

    Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.

    Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time?  No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time.  These things balance out anyway with betting boxing.  Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2008 - 12:56 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer. 

    Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.

    Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time?  No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time.  These things balance out anyway with betting boxing.  Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.


    I took what you said the wrong way. Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    Sorry for being sleazy Bigamer. 

    Lol, I know you lost, but wow you took that comment too seriously.

    Did I literally mean that I deserved a wrong decision because I got screwed another time?  No, I was saying it because could have gone either way and it went my way this time.  These things balance out anyway with betting boxing.  Besides, I don't even think it was the wrong decision.


    I took what you said the wrong way. Sorry
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