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    walktheline
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 5:11 PM ET #26

    Our definition of hurt is different. A hurt fighter is one in extreme danger of being stopped. Bradley was never in such danger.

    I didn't bet on either guy, so I really don't give a shit one way or the other. I simply said over and over Pacquiao wasn't going to blow out Bradley. No more, no less.
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    Our definition of hurt is different. A hurt fighter is one in extreme danger of being stopped. Bradley was never in such danger.

    I didn't bet on either guy, so I really don't give a shit one way or the other. I simply said over and over Pacquiao wasn't going to blow out Bradley. No more, no less.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 6:22 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

      I've seen 1,000 worst decisions in boxing.

    THIS. 

    All these twice-a-year fans really have no clue what they are talking about when I hear stuff like 'this is the worst decision I've ever seen'.  Try having money on Lara like I did in the Williams fight, then tell me how terrible this decision is. 

    And also agree about Manny being lazy.  There were rounds where I was saying 'Bradley is controlling this round' then Pac would turn it on in the last 30 seconds.  Tough to score a fight where one guy closely wins 2:30 of a round then the other guy wins the last 30 seconds.  One thought I kept having was if Manny really turned it on (or took a time machine back 5 years), he would've KO'd Bradley.  Not an impressive fight by Pac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:

      I've seen 1,000 worst decisions in boxing.

    THIS. 

    All these twice-a-year fans really have no clue what they are talking about when I hear stuff like 'this is the worst decision I've ever seen'.  Try having money on Lara like I did in the Williams fight, then tell me how terrible this decision is. 

    And also agree about Manny being lazy.  There were rounds where I was saying 'Bradley is controlling this round' then Pac would turn it on in the last 30 seconds.  Tough to score a fight where one guy closely wins 2:30 of a round then the other guy wins the last 30 seconds.  One thought I kept having was if Manny really turned it on (or took a time machine back 5 years), he would've KO'd Bradley.  Not an impressive fight by Pac.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 6:42 PM ET #28

    walk you are on drugs if you think Bradley won. I watched the fight in silence. I have it Pacman easily. 8-4 at best or if you REALLY want to push it 7-5-2 and that is at a HUGE push. Read every boxing website. 95% think this was robbery. If you don't, honestly I cant engage you ever again in a boxing discussion..

    ok if u had Bradley pre fight fine, but to think he won is ludicrous....this many fight fans cant be wrong...it was a shocking decision....
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    walk you are on drugs if you think Bradley won. I watched the fight in silence. I have it Pacman easily. 8-4 at best or if you REALLY want to push it 7-5-2 and that is at a HUGE push. Read every boxing website. 95% think this was robbery. If you don't, honestly I cant engage you ever again in a boxing discussion..

    ok if u had Bradley pre fight fine, but to think he won is ludicrous....this many fight fans cant be wrong...it was a shocking decision....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 6:46 PM ET #29

    https://www.covers.com/articles/columns/articles.aspx?theArt=277487

    I could add a million of these articles. While I don't believe it was the greatest robbery in history, Pacquaio CLEARLY won the fight. Just like Marquez beat Pacquaio (3), like Lewis beat Holyfield, like Dirrell beat Froch, like Lara beat Williams etc etc etc. Pacquaio won the fight...I had the KO made no odds to me. I like Bradley but he did not win this fight....
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    https://www.covers.com/articles/columns/articles.aspx?theArt=277487

    I could add a million of these articles. While I don't believe it was the greatest robbery in history, Pacquaio CLEARLY won the fight. Just like Marquez beat Pacquaio (3), like Lewis beat Holyfield, like Dirrell beat Froch, like Lara beat Williams etc etc etc. Pacquaio won the fight...I had the KO made no odds to me. I like Bradley but he did not win this fight....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 6:49 PM ET #30

    I meant 6-4-2 above....whoops
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    I meant 6-4-2 above....whoops
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 6:59 PM ET #31

    This was worse than Lara-Williams. Way worse. Worse than Abril-Rios. 

    This is right there with Santa Cruz-Casamayor and Lewis-Holyfield I. 

    This fight. Wasn't. Close. I actually know what I'm watching so I don't feed off the announcers or other idiots. They don't sway me. The fight was a rout. Pacquaio took it easy on him. He landed whenever he felt like it. When Pac got aggressive, Bradley bailed out and ran as the fight went on. Bradley only had success when Pac was letting him and even then he landed nothing hard and nothing eye catching. 
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    This was worse than Lara-Williams. Way worse. Worse than Abril-Rios. 

    This is right there with Santa Cruz-Casamayor and Lewis-Holyfield I. 

    This fight. Wasn't. Close. I actually know what I'm watching so I don't feed off the announcers or other idiots. They don't sway me. The fight was a rout. Pacquaio took it easy on him. He landed whenever he felt like it. When Pac got aggressive, Bradley bailed out and ran as the fight went on. Bradley only had success when Pac was letting him and even then he landed nothing hard and nothing eye catching. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    This was worse than Lara-Williams. Way worse. Worse than Abril-Rios. 

    This is right there with Santa Cruz-Casamayor and Lewis-Holyfield I. 

    This fight. Wasn't. Close. I actually know what I'm watching so I don't feed off the announcers or other idiots. They don't sway me. The fight was a rout. Pacquaio took it easy on him. He landed whenever he felt like it. When Pac got aggressive, Bradley bailed out and ran as the fight went on. Bradley only had success when Pac was letting him and even then he landed nothing hard and nothing eye catching. 

    how did you score rounds 1, 2 and how did you score 8, 9, 10, 11, 12


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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    This was worse than Lara-Williams. Way worse. Worse than Abril-Rios. 

    This is right there with Santa Cruz-Casamayor and Lewis-Holyfield I. 

    This fight. Wasn't. Close. I actually know what I'm watching so I don't feed off the announcers or other idiots. They don't sway me. The fight was a rout. Pacquaio took it easy on him. He landed whenever he felt like it. When Pac got aggressive, Bradley bailed out and ran as the fight went on. Bradley only had success when Pac was letting him and even then he landed nothing hard and nothing eye catching. 

    how did you score rounds 1, 2 and how did you score 8, 9, 10, 11, 12


     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 7:37 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    how did you score rounds 1, 2 and how did you score 8, 9, 10, 11, 12



    I don't debate with trolls. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    how did you score rounds 1, 2 and how did you score 8, 9, 10, 11, 12



    I don't debate with trolls. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2012 - 7:55 PM ET #34

    considering live betting at dimes had Bradley at +7500 for the win late should tell it all. 
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    considering live betting at dimes had Bradley at +7500 for the win late should tell it all. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 4:20 AM ET #35

    Manny Pacquaio outland Timothy Bradley 253-159 in total punches and had a 190-108 edge in powershots landed. He outlanded Bradley in 10 out of the 12 rounds

    Simple undeniable facts
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    Manny Pacquaio outland Timothy Bradley 253-159 in total punches and had a 190-108 edge in powershots landed. He outlanded Bradley in 10 out of the 12 rounds

    Simple undeniable facts
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 5:33 AM ET #36

    Its crazy how a decision like that happens and then everyone all of a sudden don't know what they are looking at. Its still being talked about by everyone everywhere but the millions don't know what they are watching. The whole thing makes you wonder what the hell is going on.
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    Its crazy how a decision like that happens and then everyone all of a sudden don't know what they are looking at. Its still being talked about by everyone everywhere but the millions don't know what they are watching. The whole thing makes you wonder what the hell is going on.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 12:39 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Sorry pal, but you sound like a fool. You also have no idea how to interpret "punch stats" either. Anything other than a jab is a power shot. That means nothing. Manny doesn't jab anymore. That's hardly shocking and essentially irrelevant. Compubox is also notoriously flawed and misleading. 

    EVERY SINGLE JUDGE gave Bradley rounds 7, 10, 11. EVERY SINGLE JUDGE gave Pacquiao rounds 3,4,6. There isn't much to dispute about the scoring of these rounds. 

    Bradley won rounds 2,5,8,11 on two of the three cards. Not particularly hard to figure out. It was also mixed, as in not the same two judges all the time. What's so hard to understand? 

    Get over it people, Pacquiao lost fair and square. 


    It's safe to say your a fucking moron bud. The whole world knew this was fixed, and that Manny won this fight easily. I can't believe your actually calling people stupid and trying to justify this. I repeat, you are part of a 0.00001% of the minority who is actually delusional enough to believe Manny didn't win this fight. I didn't place any money on this fight, never have with boxing and never will. Anyone who isn't biased knows that Bradley won 3 rounds and if you want to be extremely generous then 4 rounds. Why would all these people involved in boxing including books, promoters, people actually in the Nevada Boxing Commision come out and say that the result was absolutely absurd and fixed. Take your bullshit somewhere else bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:


    Sorry pal, but you sound like a fool. You also have no idea how to interpret "punch stats" either. Anything other than a jab is a power shot. That means nothing. Manny doesn't jab anymore. That's hardly shocking and essentially irrelevant. Compubox is also notoriously flawed and misleading. 

    EVERY SINGLE JUDGE gave Bradley rounds 7, 10, 11. EVERY SINGLE JUDGE gave Pacquiao rounds 3,4,6. There isn't much to dispute about the scoring of these rounds. 

    Bradley won rounds 2,5,8,11 on two of the three cards. Not particularly hard to figure out. It was also mixed, as in not the same two judges all the time. What's so hard to understand? 

    Get over it people, Pacquiao lost fair and square. 


    It's safe to say your a fucking moron bud. The whole world knew this was fixed, and that Manny won this fight easily. I can't believe your actually calling people stupid and trying to justify this. I repeat, you are part of a 0.00001% of the minority who is actually delusional enough to believe Manny didn't win this fight. I didn't place any money on this fight, never have with boxing and never will. Anyone who isn't biased knows that Bradley won 3 rounds and if you want to be extremely generous then 4 rounds. Why would all these people involved in boxing including books, promoters, people actually in the Nevada Boxing Commision come out and say that the result was absolutely absurd and fixed. Take your bullshit somewhere else bud.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 2:43 PM ET #38

    whats all the fuss about?

    it was a bad decision.

    its not the first time and it wont be the last.

    1. 100-200/1 bradley to win live betting in 12th round offered to bradley backers by las vegas.

    2. bradleys own manager after the fight stating his fighter tim won four rounds to paq's 8 rounds.

    3. timothy bradley stating to his promoter bob arum before he was declared the winner that he tried his best and couldnt beat pacquiao.

    it was a bad decision.

    move on to the next play.

    its over.

     

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    whats all the fuss about?

    it was a bad decision.

    its not the first time and it wont be the last.

    1. 100-200/1 bradley to win live betting in 12th round offered to bradley backers by las vegas.

    2. bradleys own manager after the fight stating his fighter tim won four rounds to paq's 8 rounds.

    3. timothy bradley stating to his promoter bob arum before he was declared the winner that he tried his best and couldnt beat pacquiao.

    it was a bad decision.

    move on to the next play.

    its over.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 6:41 PM ET #39

    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....
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    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 7:03 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....

    You sir = epic fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....

    You sir = epic fail

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 8:45 PM ET #41

    You were definitely being serious. Who carries a joke out that long?
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    You were definitely being serious. Who carries a joke out that long?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 9:02 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    You were definitely being serious. Who carries a joke out that long?

    Hasn't JerseyBoy been joking for years now? Gheesh.. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    You were definitely being serious. Who carries a joke out that long?

    Hasn't JerseyBoy been joking for years now? Gheesh.. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 9:36 PM ET #43

    Yes but he IS a joke. You're usually serious. 
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    Yes but he IS a joke. You're usually serious. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:03 PM ET #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....

    Let me guess. The reason it turned into a joke all of a sudden is due to the one and only possible answer...













































    Ancient Aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I can't believe that anyone thought I was being remotely serious.....

    Let me guess. The reason it turned into a joke all of a sudden is due to the one and only possible answer...













































    Ancient Aliens.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #46

    didn't watch the fight but i was actually convinced that everyone else was crazy   
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    didn't watch the fight but i was actually convinced that everyone else was crazy   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 6:44 PM ET #47

    The only thing interesting to me is that each fighter had 3 unanimous rounds on the cards. That essentially makes every other round a "swing round." Nobody is bitching about the 115-113 card. Why is that? You should have to BEAT Manny to take the belt and the #1 spot. While Bradley didn't do that, he didn't get blown out.

    It's extremely difficult to give Bradley the majority of those said "swing rounds." However, acting like it isn't plausible that Bradley could have been given them rounds is the only thing befuddling to me.

    However, the fallout of Pacquiao losing without being knocked out would always have existed. Marquez clearly defeated him in his last fight as far as I'm concerned, yet I wonder if we would still would have had similar backlash if Marquez had gotten the nod last time out simply due to Pacquiao's status in the sport.

    Sup Mich? 

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    The only thing interesting to me is that each fighter had 3 unanimous rounds on the cards. That essentially makes every other round a "swing round." Nobody is bitching about the 115-113 card. Why is that? You should have to BEAT Manny to take the belt and the #1 spot. While Bradley didn't do that, he didn't get blown out.

    It's extremely difficult to give Bradley the majority of those said "swing rounds." However, acting like it isn't plausible that Bradley could have been given them rounds is the only thing befuddling to me.

    However, the fallout of Pacquiao losing without being knocked out would always have existed. Marquez clearly defeated him in his last fight as far as I'm concerned, yet I wonder if we would still would have had similar backlash if Marquez had gotten the nod last time out simply due to Pacquiao's status in the sport.

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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 12:40 PM ET #48

    whats good homie - you finish up school yet 
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    whats good homie - you finish up school yet 
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