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    Mack05
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 9:35 AM ET #1

    Guys I am taking a month long R&R to the turks and Caicos so I won't be posting much. I will be playing the next 5 big fights but not much.

    I will be playing Andre Dirrell to win on points. I am so NOT confident on this bet. The reason being I seriously question Andre Dirells mental toughness. He comes across a scared little kid to me. King Authur is one of the toughest nuts to ever lace a pair of boxing gloves. With his peak a boo defense hard hitting with both hands and mental toughness I really should plough into him to beat a scared Andre Dirrell but I am not going to. When I look at the boxing fundamentals of this fight I can see great value in Andre Dirrell. These being...

    1) He is at home..AA Never fought thus good a fighter outside of Germany.

    2) It is a must win fight, if he losses his super 6 and potentially his career are over (really before it began)..

    3) His style is perfect on paper for AA. Stick and move. Throw punches at angles to pick apart the peak a boo defense. Mixing it up with hard combinations to the body..

    I thought Taylor had good success early before he gassed. Dirrell wont gas. I am convinced if the Froch fight happened in America, Direll gets tghe decision, so he is not going to have to change tactics a whole lot and I think these tactics will work a treat against AA. So in this fight I am picking Andre Dirrell on Points...

    Haye v Ruiz. For me Haye on points. I don't think either man has the power to stop the other. Think it will be pretty close too, with Haye getting the hometown decision. For me Haye on Points.

    Will put a double on Pavlik and Bute, Should come to about evens..

    I would be most confident on the Haye pick..The rest will be low stakes..See you guys soon and good luck with your plays

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Guys I am taking a month long R&R to the turks and Caicos so I won't be posting much. I will be playing the next 5 big fights but not much.

    I will be playing Andre Dirrell to win on points. I am so NOT confident on this bet. The reason being I seriously question Andre Dirells mental toughness. He comes across a scared little kid to me. King Authur is one of the toughest nuts to ever lace a pair of boxing gloves. With his peak a boo defense hard hitting with both hands and mental toughness I really should plough into him to beat a scared Andre Dirrell but I am not going to. When I look at the boxing fundamentals of this fight I can see great value in Andre Dirrell. These being...

    1) He is at home..AA Never fought thus good a fighter outside of Germany.

    2) It is a must win fight, if he losses his super 6 and potentially his career are over (really before it began)..

    3) His style is perfect on paper for AA. Stick and move. Throw punches at angles to pick apart the peak a boo defense. Mixing it up with hard combinations to the body..

    I thought Taylor had good success early before he gassed. Dirrell wont gas. I am convinced if the Froch fight happened in America, Direll gets tghe decision, so he is not going to have to change tactics a whole lot and I think these tactics will work a treat against AA. So in this fight I am picking Andre Dirrell on Points...

    Haye v Ruiz. For me Haye on points. I don't think either man has the power to stop the other. Think it will be pretty close too, with Haye getting the hometown decision. For me Haye on Points.

    Will put a double on Pavlik and Bute, Should come to about evens..

    I would be most confident on the Haye pick..The rest will be low stakes..See you guys soon and good luck with your plays

     
    KingHenry30
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 10:57 AM ET #2

    GL and Enjoy
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    GL and Enjoy
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 11:40 AM ET #3

    whatsa turks and Caicos?
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    whatsa turks and Caicos?
     
    McNulty
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 11:57 AM ET #4

    Just added to my 5dimes account. Considering its my 2nd account I'm just using it for plays my other place doesn't do...which is boxing parlays. Not big into parlays, but I like ones like this...

    5 Teamer

    Solis* vs Drummond [-1700]
    Molitor* vs Ndlovu  [-570]
    Gamboa* vs Barros [-2000]
    Haye* vs Ruiz [-495]
    Green* vs Siaca [-505]

    230 makes 202. I'll take almost even money on those fights. Only reason I don't do many parlays is 1) my other place doesnt have 'em...and...2) I tend to be a bit impatient. I like to get paid in the next week after said fights.

    Anyone think I got a loser in there somewhere?
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    Just added to my 5dimes account. Considering its my 2nd account I'm just using it for plays my other place doesn't do...which is boxing parlays. Not big into parlays, but I like ones like this...

    5 Teamer

    Solis* vs Drummond [-1700]
    Molitor* vs Ndlovu  [-570]
    Gamboa* vs Barros [-2000]
    Haye* vs Ruiz [-495]
    Green* vs Siaca [-505]

    230 makes 202. I'll take almost even money on those fights. Only reason I don't do many parlays is 1) my other place doesnt have 'em...and...2) I tend to be a bit impatient. I like to get paid in the next week after said fights.

    Anyone think I got a loser in there somewhere?
     
    nuttyrich
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 11:59 AM ET #5

    GL Mac enjoy your time away.. :)

    I'm still stuck on the fence with Dirrell, what bothers me is once he gets HIT he becomes a fighter who retreats.

    Jermaine's CHIN is pretty good it's only when he gets gassed does he get KO'd. Jermaine took some really good shots from Abraham and did well (until he ran out of gas).

    While I see why you took Dirrell his only way of winning is by decision.

    I'm not sold on Dirrell I've seen him stunned from BUMS a few times.. and when he gets stunned.. he starts running.. I don't know if he has the HEART to  with stand the pressure.


    Not making a pick yet I need to watch more footage of Dirrell :-)

    Enjoy!


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    GL Mac enjoy your time away.. :)

    I'm still stuck on the fence with Dirrell, what bothers me is once he gets HIT he becomes a fighter who retreats.

    Jermaine's CHIN is pretty good it's only when he gets gassed does he get KO'd. Jermaine took some really good shots from Abraham and did well (until he ran out of gas).

    While I see why you took Dirrell his only way of winning is by decision.

    I'm not sold on Dirrell I've seen him stunned from BUMS a few times.. and when he gets stunned.. he starts running.. I don't know if he has the HEART to  with stand the pressure.


    Not making a pick yet I need to watch more footage of Dirrell :-)

    Enjoy!


     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 12:20 PM ET #6

    rich GREAT point about Dirrell. For those reasons I am not confident on the pick and no way I would bet alot of money on a guy like Dirrell.

    McNulty, Turks and Caicos are islands about 1 hour away from Miami, maybe a bit more. I am staying in a place called Grace bay..Not bad

     

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    rich GREAT point about Dirrell. For those reasons I am not confident on the pick and no way I would bet alot of money on a guy like Dirrell.

    McNulty, Turks and Caicos are islands about 1 hour away from Miami, maybe a bit more. I am staying in a place called Grace bay..Not bad

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Just added to my 5dimes account. Considering its my 2nd account I'm just using it for plays my other place doesn't do...which is boxing parlays. Not big into parlays, but I like ones like this...

    5 Teamer

    Solis* vs Drummond [-1700]
    Molitor* vs Ndlovu  [-570]
    Gamboa* vs Barros [-2000]
    Haye* vs Ruiz [-495]
    Green* vs Siaca [-505]

    230 makes 202. I'll take almost even money on those fights. Only reason I don't do many parlays is 1) my other place doesnt have 'em...and...2) I tend to be a bit impatient. I like to get paid in the next week after said fights.

    Anyone think I got a loser in there somewhere?


    Molitor looks solid, he already knocked the same guy out so  that's not that bad.

    Gamboa scares me.. he's fighting over seas against a guy who is naturally bigger than him. The guy also has never been down. I made a post about this a while ago why is he fighting over seas now that he has such great American Exposure.

    Removing Gamboa at -2000 (he only adds $18 to the play anyways).

    Why not add Bernard Hopkins.. at -450 much better play than Gamboa OR Danny Green.

    Why do I say this Danny Green LOST to MUNDINE who Siaca beat.

    Remember Danny Green was retiring before the Roy Jones fight.. that's not a guy I would wager on.

    Haye/Ruiz.. well I believe Haye wins, but I know for sure RUIZ is on ROIDS, he looks like a different fighter.

    He was a flab bag his whole career.. now at this old age he is ripped like a youngster? That worries me!

    I would remove Gamboa he only adds a few bucks to the parlay, add HOPKINS :)


    Adding Hopkins and removing Gamboa .. brings back $273.

    If you remove Danny Green.. also.. and add Hopkins.. you can take

    Solis
    Hopkins
    Molitor
    Haye


    $230 to win $190.55

    I use the money line parlay calculator  to see how much each guy "adds"

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/parlay-calculator/

    Good luck Mcnulty, regardless of who you pick will be rooting for you :)



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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Just added to my 5dimes account. Considering its my 2nd account I'm just using it for plays my other place doesn't do...which is boxing parlays. Not big into parlays, but I like ones like this...

    5 Teamer

    Solis* vs Drummond [-1700]
    Molitor* vs Ndlovu  [-570]
    Gamboa* vs Barros [-2000]
    Haye* vs Ruiz [-495]
    Green* vs Siaca [-505]

    230 makes 202. I'll take almost even money on those fights. Only reason I don't do many parlays is 1) my other place doesnt have 'em...and...2) I tend to be a bit impatient. I like to get paid in the next week after said fights.

    Anyone think I got a loser in there somewhere?


    Molitor looks solid, he already knocked the same guy out so  that's not that bad.

    Gamboa scares me.. he's fighting over seas against a guy who is naturally bigger than him. The guy also has never been down. I made a post about this a while ago why is he fighting over seas now that he has such great American Exposure.

    Removing Gamboa at -2000 (he only adds $18 to the play anyways).

    Why not add Bernard Hopkins.. at -450 much better play than Gamboa OR Danny Green.

    Why do I say this Danny Green LOST to MUNDINE who Siaca beat.

    Remember Danny Green was retiring before the Roy Jones fight.. that's not a guy I would wager on.

    Haye/Ruiz.. well I believe Haye wins, but I know for sure RUIZ is on ROIDS, he looks like a different fighter.

    He was a flab bag his whole career.. now at this old age he is ripped like a youngster? That worries me!

    I would remove Gamboa he only adds a few bucks to the parlay, add HOPKINS :)


    Adding Hopkins and removing Gamboa .. brings back $273.

    If you remove Danny Green.. also.. and add Hopkins.. you can take

    Solis
    Hopkins
    Molitor
    Haye


    $230 to win $190.55

    I use the money line parlay calculator  to see how much each guy "adds"

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/parlay-calculator/

    Good luck Mcnulty, regardless of who you pick will be rooting for you :)



     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 1:59 PM ET #8

    No doubt. Your insight is appreciated. Thanks for the parlay calc too...nice little find.

    I thought Green was a good pick because of the following...

    1) Fight is in Perth, Green is from Perth. Siaca is from PR.
    2) Siaca has been bouncing around in weight. Last was at 160. He's fought in 3 divisions in the last 6 years inthe following order:
    160, 178, 168.
    3) Lost to Branco [06'] and Byron Mitchell 2x [01'].
    4) Last 2 opponents were shit. 24-14(10)-14-2 and 10-12(4)-6-1.
    5) Siaca is taking any fights he can get w/many of which being overseas. That says something to me...reminds me of Chop Chop.
    6) Mundine was only a pro for 3.8 years at that time. Mundine has also lost to Ottke though. I know he beat Green, but I didn't see it so not sure what really happened. I do know Mundine is like a god in OZ.
    7) In 1 week Siaca will have been out of the ring for 1 year.


    Regarding Gamboa...I was thinking the same thing about the weight. But, I don't think their going to jeopardize Gamboa this early. Barros has been fighting some serious bums and been moving around in weights...in the following order: 130, 135, 125. Last 2 fights for Barros was a 6 and 8 rounder. Your not suppossed to be fighting 10 rounders then drop rounds as a career is 'progressing.' Also, Barros opponent's best record was like 20-2 via Rodriguez.

    I believe Argentinian fighters are durable/tough and Barros IS undefeated...but undefeated against cans with records like 75-45, 15-18, 6-7. 7-20, etc. Yuri did stop Ramirez who was 25-0-16 when they fought...very similar record as Barros who is 28-0-16.

    I do think it was weird Gamboa is fighting in Germany though. 

    You really think Hopkins got it nailed like that? I'm not sure on that one. The reason I picked those is I feel there is very little chance of any of them losing. Hopkins could lose...you never know whats going to happen with fighters over 40.

    Solis already won so I can use him on another one.

    Good info on Ruiz though. I haven't been following him at all. I don't like Haye all that much, but I got a feelin Ruiz is going to get stopped. With the fight being in the UK...Ruiz needs a stoppage.

    Again, thanks for the reply and advice. Appreciated!
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    No doubt. Your insight is appreciated. Thanks for the parlay calc too...nice little find.

    I thought Green was a good pick because of the following...

    1) Fight is in Perth, Green is from Perth. Siaca is from PR.
    2) Siaca has been bouncing around in weight. Last was at 160. He's fought in 3 divisions in the last 6 years inthe following order:
    160, 178, 168.
    3) Lost to Branco [06'] and Byron Mitchell 2x [01'].
    4) Last 2 opponents were shit. 24-14(10)-14-2 and 10-12(4)-6-1.
    5) Siaca is taking any fights he can get w/many of which being overseas. That says something to me...reminds me of Chop Chop.
    6) Mundine was only a pro for 3.8 years at that time. Mundine has also lost to Ottke though. I know he beat Green, but I didn't see it so not sure what really happened. I do know Mundine is like a god in OZ.
    7) In 1 week Siaca will have been out of the ring for 1 year.


    Regarding Gamboa...I was thinking the same thing about the weight. But, I don't think their going to jeopardize Gamboa this early. Barros has been fighting some serious bums and been moving around in weights...in the following order: 130, 135, 125. Last 2 fights for Barros was a 6 and 8 rounder. Your not suppossed to be fighting 10 rounders then drop rounds as a career is 'progressing.' Also, Barros opponent's best record was like 20-2 via Rodriguez.

    I believe Argentinian fighters are durable/tough and Barros IS undefeated...but undefeated against cans with records like 75-45, 15-18, 6-7. 7-20, etc. Yuri did stop Ramirez who was 25-0-16 when they fought...very similar record as Barros who is 28-0-16.

    I do think it was weird Gamboa is fighting in Germany though. 

    You really think Hopkins got it nailed like that? I'm not sure on that one. The reason I picked those is I feel there is very little chance of any of them losing. Hopkins could lose...you never know whats going to happen with fighters over 40.

    Solis already won so I can use him on another one.

    Good info on Ruiz though. I haven't been following him at all. I don't like Haye all that much, but I got a feelin Ruiz is going to get stopped. With the fight being in the UK...Ruiz needs a stoppage.

    Again, thanks for the reply and advice. Appreciated!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 2:02 PM ET #9

    Can't not Can in regards to Solis. They need an edit function here.
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    Can't not Can in regards to Solis. They need an edit function here.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty, Turks and Caicos are islands about 1 hour away from Miami, maybe a bit more. I am staying in a place called Grace bay..Not bad

    I actually punched the name into google. Looks nice. Have a good time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty, Turks and Caicos are islands about 1 hour away from Miami, maybe a bit more. I am staying in a place called Grace bay..Not bad

    I actually punched the name into google. Looks nice. Have a good time!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 2:07 PM ET #11

    O' yeah...

    Look for Jon Jones to beat Vera tonight. Set in stone I believe.
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    O' yeah...

    Look for Jon Jones to beat Vera tonight. Set in stone I believe.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 4:30 PM ET #12

    McNulty I think Gamboa is the real deal and I wouldn't expect a minutes worry in that one. I think B-Hop will be too much for RJJ in a snoozefest. RJJ will have to make the pace and suits b-Hop down to the ground, his reflexes are shot to pieces and I think B-Hop wins easy here.

    I agree with Rich I could never bet a guy like Danny Green. Maybe throw in Lucian Bute somewhere. No way he will lose to Edision Miranda

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    McNulty I think Gamboa is the real deal and I wouldn't expect a minutes worry in that one. I think B-Hop will be too much for RJJ in a snoozefest. RJJ will have to make the pace and suits b-Hop down to the ground, his reflexes are shot to pieces and I think B-Hop wins easy here.

    I agree with Rich I could never bet a guy like Danny Green. Maybe throw in Lucian Bute somewhere. No way he will lose to Edision Miranda

     
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    Bute.Miranda wasn't on 5D last night. At least I didn't think I saw it. I would have jumped on it for sure.

    I've been doing some inquiries on an Aussie forum and they've shed some light on the Green fight. I won't bore ya'll with the details, unless you guys are interested...but from what they were saying about the Mundine.Siaca fight its looking good for Green. I hope so anyway! They seem to know a lot about Siaca, which I don't.
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    Bute.Miranda wasn't on 5D last night. At least I didn't think I saw it. I would have jumped on it for sure.

    I've been doing some inquiries on an Aussie forum and they've shed some light on the Green fight. I won't bore ya'll with the details, unless you guys are interested...but from what they were saying about the Mundine.Siaca fight its looking good for Green. I hope so anyway! They seem to know a lot about Siaca, which I don't.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 6:28 PM ET #14

    Still doing work on the Dirrell.Abraham fight. If anyone has any solid links on the extent of Dirrell's injury, please post. I like Dirrell in this, but if he really did in fact get injured and it wasn't just a ploy to extend the fight, then I'm worried.
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    Still doing work on the Dirrell.Abraham fight. If anyone has any solid links on the extent of Dirrell's injury, please post. I like Dirrell in this, but if he really did in fact get injured and it wasn't just a ploy to extend the fight, then I'm worried.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 8:13 PM ET #15

    party Mack, a month in the turks is the stuff legends are made of
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    party Mack, a month in the turks is the stuff legends are made of
     
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    Dirrell had NO injury backs don't heal up in a few weeks.

    Now if he postponed it for 2 months I could see it as a real injury, a few weeks? NO way.

    That's as bad as Pavlik's hand excuse, then two weeks after Martinez/Williams do war he FIGHTS.

    Here's an article basically I just typed in Andre Dirrell injury

    Here's a LINK

    https://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25552


    The more I think about Dirrell... the more I LIKE the points handicap -4.5 Abraham (KO is a winner).

    I cannot pick Dirrell holding my breath hoping he doesn't get caught.

    I know Dirrell cannot take a punch, as much as I love rooting for the American fighters. I like guys who have heart.

    Dirrell fought the PERFECT fight against Froch who is a sub-par boxer.. Abraham is far  better as a boxer than Froch is, he won't be able to do what he did against Froch.

    I will either bet Abraham -4.5 pts handicap (KO/TKO is a winner) at -115 or I won't wager at all.

    I don't know what Dirrell is pulling maybe it was his promoters idea or something all I know is if you have a back injury.. how can you know for SURE it will be healed by the 27th?

    For all we know he could cancel again.

                                     
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    Dirrell had NO injury backs don't heal up in a few weeks.

    Now if he postponed it for 2 months I could see it as a real injury, a few weeks? NO way.

    That's as bad as Pavlik's hand excuse, then two weeks after Martinez/Williams do war he FIGHTS.

    Here's an article basically I just typed in Andre Dirrell injury

    Here's a LINK

    https://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25552


    The more I think about Dirrell... the more I LIKE the points handicap -4.5 Abraham (KO is a winner).

    I cannot pick Dirrell holding my breath hoping he doesn't get caught.

    I know Dirrell cannot take a punch, as much as I love rooting for the American fighters. I like guys who have heart.

    Dirrell fought the PERFECT fight against Froch who is a sub-par boxer.. Abraham is far  better as a boxer than Froch is, he won't be able to do what he did against Froch.

    I will either bet Abraham -4.5 pts handicap (KO/TKO is a winner) at -115 or I won't wager at all.

    I don't know what Dirrell is pulling maybe it was his promoters idea or something all I know is if you have a back injury.. how can you know for SURE it will be healed by the 27th?

    For all we know he could cancel again.

                                     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2010 - 8:27 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bute.Miranda wasn't on 5D last night. At least I didn't think I saw it. I would have jumped on it for sure.

    I've been doing some inquiries on an Aussie forum and they've shed some light on the Green fight. I won't bore ya'll with the details, unless you guys are interested...but from what they were saying about the Mundine.Siaca fight its looking good for Green. I hope so anyway! They seem to know a lot about Siaca, which I don't.


    He still isn't there.. (Bute).

    I wouldn't mind hearing the details of what the Aussies are discussing.


    You bet the Solis fight.. you got one winner in.. (didn't even know they fought already lol)!

    This is from a Yahoo article and someone commented on the fight.. source is yahoo.

    "Drummond didn't want to be there, didn't want to fight. After he quit on his stool, they decided not to pay him his purse. Solis came is heavy, as usual. If this cat was in better shape(He came in @ 268 I believe), he could contend. I'd like to see him against another biggin like Arreola, but he needs to get in shape. Either way, Klitschko's will dominate til they retire."

                                                   


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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bute.Miranda wasn't on 5D last night. At least I didn't think I saw it. I would have jumped on it for sure.

    I've been doing some inquiries on an Aussie forum and they've shed some light on the Green fight. I won't bore ya'll with the details, unless you guys are interested...but from what they were saying about the Mundine.Siaca fight its looking good for Green. I hope so anyway! They seem to know a lot about Siaca, which I don't.


    He still isn't there.. (Bute).

    I wouldn't mind hearing the details of what the Aussies are discussing.


    You bet the Solis fight.. you got one winner in.. (didn't even know they fought already lol)!

    This is from a Yahoo article and someone commented on the fight.. source is yahoo.

    "Drummond didn't want to be there, didn't want to fight. After he quit on his stool, they decided not to pay him his purse. Solis came is heavy, as usual. If this cat was in better shape(He came in @ 268 I believe), he could contend. I'd like to see him against another biggin like Arreola, but he needs to get in shape. Either way, Klitschko's will dominate til they retire."

                                                   


     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2010 - 7:09 AM ET #18

    I think Rich you make great points on Andre Dirrell. I have a funny feeling after the fight, I will be saying to myself what the hell was I thinking backing Dirrell. I too question Dirrells chin, his mental toughness and most of all his heart. I have no such questions over Abraham. I actually like AA and in my Pre super six predictions, I picked both himself and Andre Ward to be in the final. So why back against him now?. I just have a hunch this is a potential banana skin for AA and that Dirrell has the kind of style and skills to make this very awkward evening for AA. Remember Direll for all his faults should IMO still be undefeated going into this fight. If he was, his odds would not be as appealing as they are right now. I also have to think that the Froch fight bought this guy on a ton.

    I agree mostly with Vivek Wallace on Eastside boxing (best boxing website on the Net IMO) who says "The trend so far in the tournament is that the hometown fighters have each gotten the nod. The reason that I don't think this 'hometown victory' trend will continue in this fight is because the man who will be on the road this time will also be the only one of the group with the ability to remove judges from the equation, taking things into his own hands....literally. Abraham has a strong defense, great stamina, and thunderous power, but considering that it took 12 rounds to knock Jermain taylor out, I'm not so sure that he'll KO Dirrell. That being said, Dirrell has shown stamina issues at points in the past and that could place him in immediate danger against someone like Abraham. The wildcard here is that Andre Dirrell has great speed and sufficient power himself. If he can find a way to penetrate that defense of Abraham and get him to open up a bit, things could get interesting.

    In the end, I like Abraham to win, but I think Dirrell is a very live underdog, and if he finishes the fight on his feet, I wouldn't rule out his chances of a points win. I'm looking forward to this fight more than any other this week coming up, and I don't think fight fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done
    "

    I am basically playing Dirrell because I believe in this fight he is the value play. I would be amazed if this isn't really close after 8 /9 rounds and I would rather have + 200 then sweating on -300.

    AA should pull through and do enough in the end to get the W but not everything in boxing plays out as it should. I have a hunch for Dirrell and I am playing on that hunch. I just recommend maybe people fade me on this one..

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    I think Rich you make great points on Andre Dirrell. I have a funny feeling after the fight, I will be saying to myself what the hell was I thinking backing Dirrell. I too question Dirrells chin, his mental toughness and most of all his heart. I have no such questions over Abraham. I actually like AA and in my Pre super six predictions, I picked both himself and Andre Ward to be in the final. So why back against him now?. I just have a hunch this is a potential banana skin for AA and that Dirrell has the kind of style and skills to make this very awkward evening for AA. Remember Direll for all his faults should IMO still be undefeated going into this fight. If he was, his odds would not be as appealing as they are right now. I also have to think that the Froch fight bought this guy on a ton.

    I agree mostly with Vivek Wallace on Eastside boxing (best boxing website on the Net IMO) who says "The trend so far in the tournament is that the hometown fighters have each gotten the nod. The reason that I don't think this 'hometown victory' trend will continue in this fight is because the man who will be on the road this time will also be the only one of the group with the ability to remove judges from the equation, taking things into his own hands....literally. Abraham has a strong defense, great stamina, and thunderous power, but considering that it took 12 rounds to knock Jermain taylor out, I'm not so sure that he'll KO Dirrell. That being said, Dirrell has shown stamina issues at points in the past and that could place him in immediate danger against someone like Abraham. The wildcard here is that Andre Dirrell has great speed and sufficient power himself. If he can find a way to penetrate that defense of Abraham and get him to open up a bit, things could get interesting.

    In the end, I like Abraham to win, but I think Dirrell is a very live underdog, and if he finishes the fight on his feet, I wouldn't rule out his chances of a points win. I'm looking forward to this fight more than any other this week coming up, and I don't think fight fans will be disappointed when it's all said and done
    "

    I am basically playing Dirrell because I believe in this fight he is the value play. I would be amazed if this isn't really close after 8 /9 rounds and I would rather have + 200 then sweating on -300.

    AA should pull through and do enough in the end to get the W but not everything in boxing plays out as it should. I have a hunch for Dirrell and I am playing on that hunch. I just recommend maybe people fade me on this one..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #19

    turks is a place? really? i think it's nice there :p do great boxers come from that place?
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    turks is a place? really? i think it's nice there :p do great boxers come from that place?
     
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    Well thats one down. Took Dirrell to win and a saver on points so that was disappointing not to hit too. Makes the cocktails go down easier though Andre winning. Next up Haye Ruiz. Haye on Points for me.

    Dirrell hhmmmm That punch he took shortens careers..Ward v Dirrell will be a cracking fight, providing he can come back from that Punch. That was shocking to watch. I hope he is ok...

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    Well thats one down. Took Dirrell to win and a saver on points so that was disappointing not to hit too. Makes the cocktails go down easier though Andre winning. Next up Haye Ruiz. Haye on Points for me.

    Dirrell hhmmmm That punch he took shortens careers..Ward v Dirrell will be a cracking fight, providing he can come back from that Punch. That was shocking to watch. I hope he is ok...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 12:10 AM ET #21

    Hope Dirrell is okay was a nasty cheap shot. He was so out of it and confused he definitely suffered a major concussion he didn't know how it ended.

    Abraham called him an actor.

    Oh well was a tough fight and Dirrell did get dropped even though it was ruled a slip.. would have liked to see the end of the last round and a half but Abraham doesn't deserve a finish after that move.

                                           
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    Hope Dirrell is okay was a nasty cheap shot. He was so out of it and confused he definitely suffered a major concussion he didn't know how it ended.

    Abraham called him an actor.

    Oh well was a tough fight and Dirrell did get dropped even though it was ruled a slip.. would have liked to see the end of the last round and a half but Abraham doesn't deserve a finish after that move.

                                           
     
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    I bet Dirrell and it was an obvious acting job. I'll take the win, but I think the kid will always look back at this fight and wish he made a better decision.

    AA should have had a point take and boxing fans should have gotten to see the rest of the fight. The whole fight was comical to be honest, them looking at the cut like they were seriously considering stopping it was a joke too. That cut was nowhere near worthy of a stoppage. I'm just gonna take my money and snicker at the acting performance by Dirrell.

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    I bet Dirrell and it was an obvious acting job. I'll take the win, but I think the kid will always look back at this fight and wish he made a better decision.

    AA should have had a point take and boxing fans should have gotten to see the rest of the fight. The whole fight was comical to be honest, them looking at the cut like they were seriously considering stopping it was a joke too. That cut was nowhere near worthy of a stoppage. I'm just gonna take my money and snicker at the acting performance by Dirrell.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 12:22 AM ET #23

    So you feel Dirrell felt he was going to get knocked out so he pulled that stunt?

    Abraham was coming on strong but if you watch it closely.. I don't think he faked it.

    The cut was a joke when does the doctor TREAT the cut? He was applying pressure on it and stopping the bleeding.. doctor is only there to see if the fighter can continue nothing else.

    Sad to see it end that way wanted a result in the fight.

                                 


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    So you feel Dirrell felt he was going to get knocked out so he pulled that stunt?

    Abraham was coming on strong but if you watch it closely.. I don't think he faked it.

    The cut was a joke when does the doctor TREAT the cut? He was applying pressure on it and stopping the bleeding.. doctor is only there to see if the fighter can continue nothing else.

    Sad to see it end that way wanted a result in the fight.

                                 


     
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    does anyone know the result of the Morales fight?
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    does anyone know the result of the Morales fight?
     
     
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    Watch the replay - starts in 3 minutes

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