To all Pactards read this article and say what you must to make it more favoriable

Even though it's impossible you're man is wrong on this equation to the point he'll have to agree or he'll look like a dipshit which he alsready does

 

 

How can any of you really say that b'c it's not in the rules that testing shouldn't be done... It's a flawed law and all know it. In the future it will be standard and especially in a sport where you can kill someone

 

Plus after you read you can tell that like I was saying all along 2 weeks is enough for this oil spill to kill the Gulf of Mexico's economy and eco-system but NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR MANYY TO RECOVER? Fucking joke of an argument and I'm more than beginning to question what argument there is other than Floyd's not his dad, etc.

https://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=Aho94ZkQfp_zq4eAbHGmzqw5nYcB?slug=dw-pacman050410

First he was scared of needles (gave himself his first tattoo)

Second he agreed but only up to 30 days now 14 days

Mayweather will probably ask for a bigger cut now which I suppose Manny will have to give since Floyd's become the biggest draw since Oscar....

 

If this is any indication of his political career it will be short full of retarded excuses with no facts to back them up

Round 1 fight

figures....

Well I think I can shut up just like most others because it looks like it's gonna happen after all.... I hope

 

https://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/2010/5/5/manny_pacquiao_will_fight_floyd_mayweather.htm

This test won't be standard any time soon. It cost too much.

Floyd wants to act as if he's saving the sport yet the rest of his undercard didn't even have the same test.

And yes. people sure are dying left and right because we don't have this test.

It just cracks me up that nobody had a problem with not having this test less than a year ago.

Now all these people come out of the woodwork and say how they need to "save" boxing.

Here's a direct quote from Bob Arum himself..

On this trip, Arum says he is only here to support Pacquiao's run for Congress in Sarangani.

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"I haven't talked to Manny about boxing since I congratulated him on the Clottey fight," Arum said of Pacquiao's most recent victory over Ghanian fighter Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium in March.

So there will be no talk about Mayweather.

(full link)
https://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/05/05/bob-arum-arrives-in-philippines-my-job-is-to-support-manny-pac/

As you can see Arum/Roach are full of shit they need to get on the same page because once it's in print .. you cannot say something else!

Let's be honest Arum is waiting over there for Pacquio to lose this election and then talk business.. we all know this.. but shows you how he and Freddie Roach are NOT on the same page.

                                  
                                

Rich I agree with you here. I think Bob Arum is a huge reason why this fight is not happening. There seems to be 2 trains of thought coming from the Pacquaio camp. One from Roach and Pacquaio who seem to genuinely want the fight and secondly Arum who seems to think he is God in the boxing promotion world and seems to be doing his best to stop the fight..

What's clear to me is that both Roach and Pacquaio truly believe they will win the fight if it happens. Man if this fight is made the 24/7 will be classics. I have said from day one that Floyd wins and I have seen nothing to change my mind. This is the fight that will make Floyd Mayweather a legend from a great boxer. He is just too good

Agree. Lost in all this bickering is how much Arum can't stand Floyd's camp.

I think that has a lot more to do with this fight being on hold than Manny being afraid of drawing blood.

https://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5178115

Are you fucking kidding me these guys are payed 10 million plus and a $20,000 series of test is too much shows how much you know

 

And as far as everybody NOW saying this anyone w/ a brain knows that this will hopefully be the case in every sport especially one where you can use it to not only hurt your opponent but seriously alter their life...

Dumbest post I've ever seen 

 b'c someone wants to change something thats wrong you think it's funny

He's not scared he's hiding something nobody wouldn't take a needle for 40 million you and NJDevil should get a room and cry together after Mayweather whoops his ass

Plus I don't think I've heard one Pactard argue in his favor against this article not that this article is the last word or anything but all the points are beyond obvious and no Pactard dares to try and dispute the points brought up in the Yahoo! article

So why didn't Floyd have the rest of his undercard have the same test?? Like you said, he's making millions. He should be able to afford it.
I thought he's trying to "save" boxing.

And it looks like the fight is going to happen so quit crying about your damn "deep throat" article. .

Are you not of a sane mind

Why would he pay for someone else's test? Does he seem like the type who cares for anyone but himself? NOOOO

So why would he pay for their tests.. He's not trying to save shit but get in Manny's Head but that still doesn't hide the fact that PED testing should be in boxing and every fight should be tested....

It's the same thing that's happening in Soccer where they won't implement Video Replay for no reason other than they couldn't do it at every level and Whatever the fuck reason they want to come up with it's the same in both situation it's the right thing to do for all parties yet one group doesn't want it and for no other reason then "they never did it before"

You're a lost soul w/ nothing to add so you come up w/ that retarded comment that has nothing to do w/ Pacquiao ducking the test...

5-9 hours is the limit that some of these PED's are in your system....

If you have something productive to add then go ahead and post it but if you're gonna reach for bullshit save your energy and wait till the fight happens (i Hope) and you can   like Pacquiao will after he loses the fight...

So Floyd has to personally see to it that EVERY fight has Olympic style testing?  The obvious outcome is that he hopes if he does it in all his fights, then the proper authorities will follow suit and make it happen for every fight. 

Don't be so lame with excuses.  What of Manny were askin Floyd for these tests and Floys wouldn't do it?  What would you say then?  "Floyds a doper!"  LOL.

You keep flip flopping where Floyd stand on this.

One post you're saying: "b'c someone wants to change something thats wrong you think it's funny"

Next you're saying: "Why would he pay for someone else's test? Does he seem like the type who cares for anyone but himself? "

Which is it? Does this guy only care about blood testing for his fights or does this guy actually give 2 shits about "fixing the sport"

BTW: Quote from Mayweather in ep1 of 24/7 last month: Yeah baby! We're fixing boxing"

My ass you're fixing boxing.

I've stated from the beginning that he doesn't care for anyone but himself and if you can't see that you're blind I'm not a bias emotional unrational poster like you

 

But it still doesn't change the fact that testing should be the norm not looked upon as if  it's wrong and the reasons all of you give not to have the testing is comical

Hiding behind the very commissions we've all said are messing up the sport we love... Shame on all of you for trying to give any support for Pacquiao in this blatant ducking of this test...

Mohjo I know you feel strongly about "the commissions messing up the sport we love" but it is not up to Floyd Mayweather the change the rules here. If you want real change then the boxers/trainers, boxing organisations and commissions need to work together to bring about the change that is probably needed.

If you get people like Mayweather, then have a few people follow him you could conceivably have a situation like MMA or wrestling (bad example) where fighters are fighting for different organisations and due to contract restrictions can't fight each other (eg Fedor and Lesnar).

How the hell is that good for boxing?. Mayweather is not entitled to make the rules and this could be the start of something terrible for boxing. He isn't doing this to clean up the sport, that is a pile of horsesh!t.

Yes we would all like to see USADA drug testing but you know the costs how is this realistic? You have seen the cost of these tests, for most fighters the tests would cost the fight fee they are getting! Its not a realistic option or worse again boxing gets split in two where you have the fighters that can afford the tests and those who can't.

Look at the super 6. There have been drug allegations and rumours made about both Andre Dirrell and Andre Ward. Do you see Carl Froch, Kessler or AA whingeing about drug tests? No they leave it to the commissions to do their jobs.

Yes there needs to be changes to clean up the sport as best as possible but its not up to Floyd Mayweather or any other boxer to insist what these changes should be! The drug cheats will always be one step ahead of the testers. There may never be a solution that's fair to all, but right now the rules specified by the commionssions are the fairest way to dictate terms of a fight.

People involed heavily in boxing should be working on improving those current standards, instead of having renegade fighters who think they are bigger then the sport making their own rules (so they can find the best way to duck an opponent, they really don't want to fight).

Sorry Mohjo but you are wrong here. Pacquaio or any other fighter should never agree to Floyd making these demands. Because if they do, that is the start of boxing going down a path we don't want it to go down on.

This is from Victor Conte. This is absolutely spot on!

Ok there are so many things that are wrong in this post I'm starting to reconsider if we should even talk about this anymore

It comes down to your stance is Mayweather shouldn't be calling the shots even if they are the right rules that should be in place...

 

I'll keep it simple and plain Do you think that there should be testing? If no then we don't even have to argue anymore b'c you sir are wrong and anyone w/ half intelligence knows that

I'd love to get Nuttyrich to chime in but am afraid he doesn't want to take any sides

Then you claim that Mayweather is going to split boxing into different sanctions are you mad how would he get the money to back that? So that is basically a pointless reason due to no realistic possibility of it happening let alone it would make no sense for Floyd business wise...

The cost is great but not as great as having your life ruined and if the cost is the problem than have it for only title fights or blockbuster fights were the amount won't hurt as much it's possible and won't make a dent in the plus million dollar range of fighters even after all their other fees...

And as far as the super 6 if you're fine w allegations not being checked out then you're in the wrong this is a privilege you should have to earn and one of the requirements should be testing clean before a fight to make sure the playing field is level...

So if the boxing commission inducted the same rules that Mayweather is asking for you'd be ok with it then but only b'c they were the ones asking  where is the logic in that? I'm not saying he even gives a fuck about boxing but that doesn't make his stance wrong. It's the right thing to do not only b'c it will level the playing field but also b'c peoples lives are at stake...

Do you understand that you're arguing against something not b'c it's wrong but b'c it's not brought up in the manner you think is correct. I can't believe you have this stance and you're only argument is it's right but Pacman shouldn't do it only b'c Floyd is asking for it up to the day of the fight... The man is taking the same test and will be subject to the same fatigue Manny will be but that plays nothing into your thought process the only thing you can say is that it shouldn't fly b'c Mayweather is demanding it even though you state that it is the right thing to do...

And last but not least you want us to wait for the commissions and trainers to clean it up and do what's right? The same group that has never made one fight for the fans that didn't fill their pockets before anything else or the same type of trainers (Roach as an example w/ James Toney) who willingly allow fighters to use PED's and turn a blind eye or maybe the trainer for Margirito who stuffs his gloves or Pryor's magical juice bottle. If you want to wait for these types of people to clean this sport it's like saying let's wait for politicians to do whats right for the country and not the lobbyist who pay them. Newsflash it's never going to happen that way not in this lifetime....

This is the moral compass we all should follow

I do agree with many points in this post but manly the 5 day cutoff would be ok w/ me b'c he'd have no time to really get any benefit from PED's before the fight...

This is so sad that none of you can come up w/ legit reasons other than Floyd is the one demanding the testing...

First it was Manny is scared of needles which was shot down immediately b'c he has tattoos he's given to himself by needle of course

Second was that it will fatigue him which is totally pyschiological and would be the same mentally as well as physically b'c Mayweather will be taking the same test but ok whatever

Now Mack is trying to say it's b'c Mayweather is the one trying to demand it. I'm wondering why Manny doesn't demand it on principal that it's the right thing for the sport in general and I hope we've all come to the conclusion it is in the best interest of the sport to implement this....

I want this fight to be made as well as testing to become the norm

is my thought of thinking wrong? and if so please give  me a reason other than it's too costly which is total bullshit or it's b'c Mayweather is asking for it...

Mojho there is no point even agruing with you on this. That doesn't mean I don't like or respect your opinions. I enjoy your posts and the effort you put into them.

Firstly show me a quote that states Manny Pacquaio is scared of needles? He doesn't like to give a lot of blood he never stated he is scared of needles.

Here is where we agree. In a sport where you can die, Olympic style drug testing needs to be implemented. How it gets implemented is the problem. I am sure there is a way to implement random drug testing without the costs being like they were for Mayweather v Mosley. I would love to hear peoples opinions what is the best way to get USADA sytle testing implemented?Because honestly it should have been in place since the 70's/80's when the use of PED's among atheletes came to light. Maybe you can tell me Mohjo why it was never put in place, especially in a brutal sport where people have does in the ring?

Now Conte is a scumbag, we know this, but he is correct when he says "Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." Floyd cannot dictate the terms of possibly the biggest fight in history. If Manny says he feels weakened by giving blood why can't people believe him? As Conte stated which is true, Asfa Powell was a big favourite for a medal in Bejing. He ended giving alot of blood in the lead up to the 100 metres and came nowhere. He blamed it on giving blood and that it weakened him (I remember seeing the interview). Giving blood effects people in different ways. That is a fact.

Now put yourself in Manny Pacquaio's shoes. You know giving blood weakens you, would you give blood all the way to the day of the fight if you didn't have too? knowing that the only person asking you do it was your opponent!? For the biggest fight of your life you want to be 100% mentally and physically. If the rules are there you have to give blood right up until the day of the fight well and good, but right now they are not there. So what do you do. You compromise! As stated by Conto these guys can cheat for months before and get away with it so no test is ever going to be 100% accurate.

Before there were faults at both sides. Manny is now trying to compromise. Mayweather will not, therefore he is at fault. Dude look at the boxing forums on the web. 30% agree with you 70% with me. It's an argument neither of us will be swayed. I will give you the last word, but I am leaving my input to the topic here

A mate of mine just posted this "If Mayweather now rejects the 14 day cut off, I don't think it's an indication of his fear of Pacquiao (far from it). Instead, it just confirms what we’ve all believed from the very beginning – this cleaning up the sport parade is one pathetic front, to get a distracted Manny Pacquiao in to the ring. Floyd’s a competitor more than anything else, and he will pull almost any trick in the book to get a competitive advantage (be it physical or mental) going in to a fight"

Interesting take