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    SamLangford
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 11:09 PM ET #1

    Superfly card this Saturday

    Roman Gonzalez -300 vs. Sor Rungvisai +240
    Juan Estrada -188. vs. Carlos Cuadrado +150
    Naoya Inoue -3300 vs Antonio Nieves +1000

    No props available yet.

    Should be one of the best cards of the year.
    Will be going large on Chocolatito for the win.

    Who are you picking?
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    Superfly card this Saturday

    Roman Gonzalez -300 vs. Sor Rungvisai +240
    Juan Estrada -188. vs. Carlos Cuadrado +150
    Naoya Inoue -3300 vs Antonio Nieves +1000

    No props available yet.

    Should be one of the best cards of the year.
    Will be going large on Chocolatito for the win.

    Who are you picking?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 11:10 PM ET #2

    **Cuadras
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    **Cuadras
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2017 - 11:32 PM ET #3

    Chocolatito for the revenge win. Large.
    Inoue is basically free money.
    Estrada-cuadras has FOTY potential. Leaning Estrada
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    Chocolatito for the revenge win. Large.
    Inoue is basically free money.
    Estrada-cuadras has FOTY potential. Leaning Estrada
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 10:25 AM ET #4

    Chocolatito is too small for that division, dangerous fight for him vs a big puncher who is a southpaw.  He was being manhandled early on in the first fight, his big heart, conditioning and busy style is what made that fight competitive towards the end.  Look at his face though after that first fight ouch
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    Chocolatito is too small for that division, dangerous fight for him vs a big puncher who is a southpaw.  He was being manhandled early on in the first fight, his big heart, conditioning and busy style is what made that fight competitive towards the end.  Look at his face though after that first fight ouch
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 12:02 PM ET #5

    Yeah man that dreaded jump from 112 to 115 pounds. Oh how difficult it can be.

    And if you saw the first fight Roman clearly won and got hosed. And those marks on his face were from head clashes . I just watched the fight the other day. Manhandled early on lol. Why because he got caught off balanced with a nothing shot and was knocked down. Hardly a crushing blow. This guy is tailor made for him. Fights the same style. Toe to toe and bangs. Only Roman is a level above. He won the first time clearly and should win even wider this time around. Mark my words.
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    Yeah man that dreaded jump from 112 to 115 pounds. Oh how difficult it can be.

    And if you saw the first fight Roman clearly won and got hosed. And those marks on his face were from head clashes . I just watched the fight the other day. Manhandled early on lol. Why because he got caught off balanced with a nothing shot and was knocked down. Hardly a crushing blow. This guy is tailor made for him. Fights the same style. Toe to toe and bangs. Only Roman is a level above. He won the first time clearly and should win even wider this time around. Mark my words.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 12:48 PM ET #6

    You know Roman has moved up 4 weight classes right?
    Look at their frame bro, Roman is small for that division and the other guy was walking through his punches up until the last couple of rounds where he gassed out.  Go ahead and bet on Roman but dont expect a KO.  Sure he can outbox him, but Roman loves to get into wars, which will ultimately make the fight close again.  

    ah fuk it your probably just a casual betting against margarito in his own country.  You almost got it though
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    You know Roman has moved up 4 weight classes right?
    Look at their frame bro, Roman is small for that division and the other guy was walking through his punches up until the last couple of rounds where he gassed out.  Go ahead and bet on Roman but dont expect a KO.  Sure he can outbox him, but Roman loves to get into wars, which will ultimately make the fight close again.  

    ah fuk it your probably just a casual betting against margarito in his own country.  You almost got it though
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 12:59 PM ET #7

    Did you know that Roman has been fighting and beating the crap out of people at 112 for the past three years. This is three pounds lol.

    And I never said I expected a ko. I think it's possible but the more likely result is Roman by decision.

    Was casual enough to go 22-2 with my boxing wagers two weeks ago. When was the last time you did that on here? You got a opinion on everything but never post your picks to be judged on like a coward troll you are.

    Thanks again for sharing your boxing expertise there captain obvious.

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    Did you know that Roman has been fighting and beating the crap out of people at 112 for the past three years. This is three pounds lol.

    And I never said I expected a ko. I think it's possible but the more likely result is Roman by decision.

    Was casual enough to go 22-2 with my boxing wagers two weeks ago. When was the last time you did that on here? You got a opinion on everything but never post your picks to be judged on like a coward troll you are.

    Thanks again for sharing your boxing expertise there captain obvious.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 1:01 PM ET #8

    Post your play!!!

    Fade me take Rungvisai. Who you got estrada-cuadras? Let's see what you got
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    Post your play!!!

    Fade me take Rungvisai. Who you got estrada-cuadras? Let's see what you got
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 3:35 PM ET #9

    Np I will take Rungvisai, probably end up putting 2 units.  See you let all this p4p, HBO bullsh1t cloud your judgement.  Roman´s last 2 fights were extremely competitive, and he was a comfortable favorite in the odds.  Once again he is a 3 to 1 favorite, even though in his last fight  you can maybe say he eeked out a decision(most experts agree on this aswell)  I for 1 thought the Thai won and thats ultimately what the judges decided on.  Eye test reveals Rungvisai does have some advantages up in that ring.  You are in the minority saying Roman ¨clearly won¨

    The value is on Thai dude. Roman has dissapointed as a comfortable favorite his last 2 fights.  Is Roman the better talent?  I believe so, but at 115 he is no killer.
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    Np I will take Rungvisai, probably end up putting 2 units.  See you let all this p4p, HBO bullsh1t cloud your judgement.  Roman´s last 2 fights were extremely competitive, and he was a comfortable favorite in the odds.  Once again he is a 3 to 1 favorite, even though in his last fight  you can maybe say he eeked out a decision(most experts agree on this aswell)  I for 1 thought the Thai won and thats ultimately what the judges decided on.  Eye test reveals Rungvisai does have some advantages up in that ring.  You are in the minority saying Roman ¨clearly won¨

    The value is on Thai dude. Roman has dissapointed as a comfortable favorite his last 2 fights.  Is Roman the better talent?  I believe so, but at 115 he is no killer.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 4:18 PM ET #10

    Clearly won IMO. 7-5 was fair. Could see 8-4 Roman or draw at worse. But Rungvisai got the gift there.

    This isn't the fight Roman loses. This is the set up for a bigger fight either vs Inoue or estrada-cuadras winner. That's the fight Roman probably loses not this one. We shall see. Going to be super entertaining either way.
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    Clearly won IMO. 7-5 was fair. Could see 8-4 Roman or draw at worse. But Rungvisai got the gift there.

    This isn't the fight Roman loses. This is the set up for a bigger fight either vs Inoue or estrada-cuadras winner. That's the fight Roman probably loses not this one. We shall see. Going to be super entertaining either way.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2017 - 4:59 PM ET #11

    You think Inoue by stoppage or decision?
    I am tempted to lay $3300 to win $100 but will wait for the KO prop. Hope it's under -500. Can't see it going the distance from what I've seen from Nieves he's going to press the action and will be open to all kinds of counters and combos. Wrong opponent to go toe to toe with. Thinking Nieves is going to get smoked here barring Inoue breaking both hands. Inoue ITD looks like the obvious play but likely result.
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    You think Inoue by stoppage or decision?
    I am tempted to lay $3300 to win $100 but will wait for the KO prop. Hope it's under -500. Can't see it going the distance from what I've seen from Nieves he's going to press the action and will be open to all kinds of counters and combos. Wrong opponent to go toe to toe with. Thinking Nieves is going to get smoked here barring Inoue breaking both hands. Inoue ITD looks like the obvious play but likely result.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 1:04 AM ET #12

    Idk it was a great fight despite the headclashes that kept Rungvisai in the fight... either way a very entertaining fight..

    I would say the better bet (even if its not a fav) is betting Rungvisai

    The 2nd time around should be interesting because Rungvisai has nothing to prove.. its Chocolaticos job to prove he was cheated.

    Whats up with that CANELO GGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Idk it was a great fight despite the headclashes that kept Rungvisai in the fight... either way a very entertaining fight..

    I would say the better bet (even if its not a fav) is betting Rungvisai

    The 2nd time around should be interesting because Rungvisai has nothing to prove.. its Chocolaticos job to prove he was cheated.

    Whats up with that CANELO GGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 9:05 AM ET #13

    How did you score the first fight royboymiami?

    Thinking Rungvisai is the play here is what all the square bettors are thinking. Chasing those live dogs that won't win forever.

    Chocolatito for the super large.
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    How did you score the first fight royboymiami?

    Thinking Rungvisai is the play here is what all the square bettors are thinking. Chasing those live dogs that won't win forever.

    Chocolatito for the super large.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 9:23 AM ET #14

    Just like picking Margarito solely because the fight was in Mexico was a square way to think. And these squares are always the ones who talk the most chit.

    Let me guess you all had Rungvisai to win last time too. When Roman was a -2500 favorite. Clowns.

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    Just like picking Margarito solely because the fight was in Mexico was a square way to think. And these squares are always the ones who talk the most chit.

    Let me guess you all had Rungvisai to win last time too. When Roman was a -2500 favorite. Clowns.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 2:55 PM ET #15

    Sam are you drunk at a pub somewhere in garbage England ?
    I did not have Rung last fight like I said I'm a chocolatico fan - Sandinista movement Nicaragua rebels etc I didn't have money on either fighter . Odds were too high either side . I wouldn't bet a -2500 favorite . Idk who said anything about margarito
    Wether Roman wins the fight or not at -500 it's not a good bet in my opinion vs a guy that just beat him . 
    What are you going to do bet 5k to win 1k ? I bet you're going to be nervous allllllll night 
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    Sam are you drunk at a pub somewhere in garbage England ?
    I did not have Rung last fight like I said I'm a chocolatico fan - Sandinista movement Nicaragua rebels etc I didn't have money on either fighter . Odds were too high either side . I wouldn't bet a -2500 favorite . Idk who said anything about margarito
    Wether Roman wins the fight or not at -500 it's not a good bet in my opinion vs a guy that just beat him . 
    What are you going to do bet 5k to win 1k ? I bet you're going to be nervous allllllll night 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 2:57 PM ET #16

    And this isn't about chasing a Dog . 
    Rung is a great matchup for Roman and it's a tough fight to judge . Don't forget about the 1st round body shot knock down , rung has to focus on the body and ur losing more money sam

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    And this isn't about chasing a Dog . 
    Rung is a great matchup for Roman and it's a tough fight to judge . Don't forget about the 1st round body shot knock down , rung has to focus on the body and ur losing more money sam

     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 4:20 PM ET #17

    Sam doesnt understand value...Roman has been a good size favorite his last 2 fights and underperformed according to his p4p status all the media and especially HBO claims.  He has not even shown to be close to that killer at 112 and below

    According to Sam that body shot ko was an off balance shot lol.  Roman was getting touched up early, and that guy you can tell has HEAVY hands.  Speaks a ton to Roman´s big heart and toughness.  Should be a good scrap.
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    Sam doesnt understand value...Roman has been a good size favorite his last 2 fights and underperformed according to his p4p status all the media and especially HBO claims.  He has not even shown to be close to that killer at 112 and below

    According to Sam that body shot ko was an off balance shot lol.  Roman was getting touched up early, and that guy you can tell has HEAVY hands.  Speaks a ton to Roman´s big heart and toughness.  Should be a good scrap.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 7:07 PM ET #18

    Two squares who don't understand the game and never will. Chase that value donkeys.
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    Two squares who don't understand the game and never will. Chase that value donkeys.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 8:23 PM ET #19

    This has nothing to do with boxing. The game is Sports betting.

    Go to any long time sports bettor and tell them you are betting on a heavily backed public underdog see what they tell you. Rungvisai getting about 80% of the action. Mention that the line on the favorite keeps going up despite the one sided action on the dog. See what old timer says. Mention that this same heavily backed public underdog beat the favorite recently as a +1000 underdog. See old timers reaction as he reels you in with his imaginary fish hook. That's what's happening here all you square Rungvisai backers are getting reeled in like little fishies.....
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    This has nothing to do with boxing. The game is Sports betting.

    Go to any long time sports bettor and tell them you are betting on a heavily backed public underdog see what they tell you. Rungvisai getting about 80% of the action. Mention that the line on the favorite keeps going up despite the one sided action on the dog. See what old timer says. Mention that this same heavily backed public underdog beat the favorite recently as a +1000 underdog. See old timers reaction as he reels you in with his imaginary fish hook. That's what's happening here all you square Rungvisai backers are getting reeled in like little fishies.....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 9:06 PM ET #20

    Hey Sam thanks for sharing your picks/insight. Looking forward to your thoughts on the Canelo/GGG fight and card. 
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    Hey Sam thanks for sharing your picks/insight. Looking forward to your thoughts on the Canelo/GGG fight and card. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 9:35 PM ET #21

    Cheers Westra! Looking forward to these next two weeks of action. Hopefully we can give the bankroll a little boost for football season.
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    Cheers Westra! Looking forward to these next two weeks of action. Hopefully we can give the bankroll a little boost for football season.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 6, 2017 - 9:53 PM ET #22

    On a positive note it's been a treat researching this card get to re watch some phenomenal fights. Watched cuardas-roman earlier. About to start watching estrada-roman
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    On a positive note it's been a treat researching this card get to re watch some phenomenal fights. Watched cuardas-roman earlier. About to start watching estrada-roman
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2017 - 3:52 PM ET #23

    Some props out. Inoue by stoppage is -350 and by decision is +275. Roman by stoppage is +200 and by decision is -105. Usyk by stoppage is -150 and by decision is +125. Nothing for estrada-cuadras yet.
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    Some props out. Inoue by stoppage is -350 and by decision is +275. Roman by stoppage is +200 and by decision is -105. Usyk by stoppage is -150 and by decision is +125. Nothing for estrada-cuadras yet.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2017 - 3:54 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:

    On a positive note it's been a treat researching this card get to re watch some phenomenal fights. Watched cuardas-roman earlier. About to start watching estrada-roman


    Cuadras punches like paulie mali
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:

    On a positive note it's been a treat researching this card get to re watch some phenomenal fights. Watched cuardas-roman earlier. About to start watching estrada-roman


    Cuadras punches like paulie mali
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2017 - 5:06 PM ET #25

    Good discussion fellas. Nice to return to see the forum a bit active lately. I'm mostly an underdog bettor and like chasing big odds props. 2017 has been a good year for upsets. I won a lot on Rungvisai the first time and even though I kind of hate betting rematches where the underdog won the first time, I'm backing and rooting for him tonight.
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    Good discussion fellas. Nice to return to see the forum a bit active lately. I'm mostly an underdog bettor and like chasing big odds props. 2017 has been a good year for upsets. I won a lot on Rungvisai the first time and even though I kind of hate betting rematches where the underdog won the first time, I'm backing and rooting for him tonight.
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