I'm gettin sick of that stupid grin and hobo like chin and lip hair......Pac is scared shitless to fight Pretty boy.....he wants to make his millions before he fights the boy thats gonna end his career......Pound for Pound Floyd is the best fighter I have ever seen for his Wt class......Just unbelievable speed and agility I have ever witnessed in a fighter......Pac knows it too.....thats why he is gonna cash in on all these shit bird fights before he takes on the man that will hand him a sound defeat much like he delivered to Clottey......
Cant Wait to see it either.....Pretty boy gonna knock the fuck out of his face.....which will hopefully make an improvement on it....lol
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I'm gettin sick of that stupid grin and hobo like chin and lip hair......Pac is scared shitless to fight Pretty boy.....he wants to make his millions before he fights the boy thats gonna end his career......Pound for Pound Floyd is the best fighter I have ever seen for his Wt class......Just unbelievable speed and agility I have ever witnessed in a fighter......Pac knows it too.....thats why he is gonna cash in on all these shit bird fights before he takes on the man that will hand him a sound defeat much like he delivered to Clottey......
Cant Wait to see it either.....Pretty boy gonna knock the fuck out of his face.....which will hopefully make an improvement on it....lol
Well I'm sick and tired also of cherry picked guys but boxing is all about money.. Pac-man will clear more on this fight with NO risk than he would have against Floyd.
We watch it for entertainment, but it's THEIR Career (money).
I don't think we will see that fight I think Pac-man is calling it quits.
There is NO one left, he avoided shane and floyd... no more cherry picking.
He will use his "Political Career as a way to temporary retirement".
After he fails.. again in Political he will come back to face Mosley because Mosley will now be 40 and have just lost to Floyd.
How about the clowns in Dallas Stadium $30 for a Ticket .. and $50 to park LOL!!!
$10 for binoculars the $30 seats were so far away you couldn't even see a thing, what a joke.
Don't blame pac-man blame the idiots who pay for his fights knowing the outcome.
Seriously I used to be a pac-man fan before he decided to be Barry Bonds.. I started to dislike him.. for hand picking opponents..(after Marquez) then I realized.. why blame him.. it's the public that is to blame.
Yes Clottey didn't come to win, he collected a pay day we know Floyd would never do that. Clottey did show that defense can neutralize a potent offense.. and personally Floyd's Defense is a different type of defense.. it's making a guy MISS type defense not the turtle guard.
Realize this pac-man threw over 1200 punches landed 20 %.
Well I'm sick and tired also of cherry picked guys but boxing is all about money.. Pac-man will clear more on this fight with NO risk than he would have against Floyd.
We watch it for entertainment, but it's THEIR Career (money).
I don't think we will see that fight I think Pac-man is calling it quits.
There is NO one left, he avoided shane and floyd... no more cherry picking.
He will use his "Political Career as a way to temporary retirement".
After he fails.. again in Political he will come back to face Mosley because Mosley will now be 40 and have just lost to Floyd.
How about the clowns in Dallas Stadium $30 for a Ticket .. and $50 to park LOL!!!
$10 for binoculars the $30 seats were so far away you couldn't even see a thing, what a joke.
Don't blame pac-man blame the idiots who pay for his fights knowing the outcome.
Seriously I used to be a pac-man fan before he decided to be Barry Bonds.. I started to dislike him.. for hand picking opponents..(after Marquez) then I realized.. why blame him.. it's the public that is to blame.
Yes Clottey didn't come to win, he collected a pay day we know Floyd would never do that. Clottey did show that defense can neutralize a potent offense.. and personally Floyd's Defense is a different type of defense.. it's making a guy MISS type defense not the turtle guard.
Realize this pac-man threw over 1200 punches landed 20 %.
Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Manny is a puss. Gonna avoid the biggest fight of his career the most money he'll ever make in his career just because of a drug test and you say he's not avoiding Floyd? ITS JUST A DRUG TEST! IT WILL TAKE NO MORE THEN 5 MINUTES TO TAKE.
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Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Manny is a puss. Gonna avoid the biggest fight of his career the most money he'll ever make in his career just because of a drug test and you say he's not avoiding Floyd? ITS JUST A DRUG TEST! IT WILL TAKE NO MORE THEN 5 MINUTES TO TAKE.
Shit, Pac Man may be retiring...Floyd doesnt fight until April that means the fight wouldnt even be reasonable until the fall or winter...this shit is a joke even though i love watching it. I wish Clottey would have stuck him and knocked him out, that would have been a real wake up call.
Shit, Pac Man may be retiring...Floyd doesnt fight until April that means the fight wouldnt even be reasonable until the fall or winter...this shit is a joke even though i love watching it. I wish Clottey would have stuck him and knocked him out, that would have been a real wake up call.
Manny is a puss. Gonna avoid the biggest fight of his career the most money he'll ever make in his career just because of a drug test and you say he's not avoiding Floyd? ITS JUST A DRUG TEST! IT WILL TAKE NO MORE THEN 5 MINUTES TO TAKE.
Yep!!
I hate to say it but... Manny's dirty. No doubt about it.
Quote Originally Posted by Thoughts:
Manny is a puss. Gonna avoid the biggest fight of his career the most money he'll ever make in his career just because of a drug test and you say he's not avoiding Floyd? ITS JUST A DRUG TEST! IT WILL TAKE NO MORE THEN 5 MINUTES TO TAKE.
Yep!!
I hate to say it but... Manny's dirty. No doubt about it.
Dear god its not about Manny taking a drug test. People are so ignorant to this topic...Manny feels weakened when he gives blood, I know how he feels as I feel the same way and I am f cuked for days afterwards. This cannot be good for prepartion for this fight.
Manny offered 24 days and straight after the fight! That is MORE then enough. Floyd is not god. He doesnt have the right to change the rules to suit himself! Don't people see that Floyd does NOT WANT THIS FIGHT! The drugs testing is such an obvious cover up. Sad thing is people who clearly know little about boxing are buying the bullsh!t Mayweather is selling.
God I want to scream..
Dear god its not about Manny taking a drug test. People are so ignorant to this topic...Manny feels weakened when he gives blood, I know how he feels as I feel the same way and I am f cuked for days afterwards. This cannot be good for prepartion for this fight.
Manny offered 24 days and straight after the fight! That is MORE then enough. Floyd is not god. He doesnt have the right to change the rules to suit himself! Don't people see that Floyd does NOT WANT THIS FIGHT! The drugs testing is such an obvious cover up. Sad thing is people who clearly know little about boxing are buying the bullsh!t Mayweather is selling.
Well said Mack. Floyd can only fight in Vegas where Xylococaine is not band in 50 states. But then again, Floyd wanted to change Nevada ruling about drug testing? Looks like a joke to me.
Well said Mack. Floyd can only fight in Vegas where Xylococaine is not band in 50 states. But then again, Floyd wanted to change Nevada ruling about drug testing? Looks like a joke to me.
Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Take the dammed tests and we'll stfu gladly.
Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
Damn haters gonna hate. Prove the peds or stfu. Dude has won titles in 7 weight classes, which is unprecedented. I don't believe he avoided Floyd, PBF couldn't deal with the fact that he was clearly the lesser draw in that fight. And it's more than a bit hypocritical to criticize Manny for dodging opponents while jocking Floyd.
Dear god its not about Manny taking a drug test. People are so ignorant to this topic...Manny feels weakened when he gives blood, I know how he feels as I feel the same way and I am f cuked for days afterwards. This cannot be good for prepartion for this fight.
Manny offered 24 days and straight after the fight! That is MORE then enough. Floyd is not god. He doesnt have the right to change the rules to suit himself! Don't people see that Floyd does NOT WANT THIS FIGHT! The drugs testing is such an obvious cover up. Sad thing is people who clearly know little about boxing are buying the bullsh!t Mayweather is selling.
God I want to scream..
its not about being god, its about the timeline one needs to beat a test and the test after the fight MEANS JACK SHIT.
Mack, please don't compare yourself to an elite athlete. Scream then...scream like a woman. Your body is sooo much different than his. Christ, we don't know anything about your past medical history. You could have some underlying condition or maybe its just placebo as to why you dont feel good after a blood test.
I've taken blood test during my small am's career as well as after. Neither time did I feel a thing. Its like 2-3 little little vials...and not all of the testing is blood....its the randomness of the tests they want more than anything.
Roach is like...it'll screw up camp and we'll lose days. Nobody will lose anything. There are probably a hundred very good reasons why Manny felt a little whatever after giving blood for the Morales fight, that is if he's even being truthful about it. So many plausible reasons that nobody touched on.
Look at it like this, and your a smart guy...I know you are...before Manny got the big big fights Roach said he would never EVER have Manny fight Floyd OR Margarito because of this and that reasoning. Now all of a sudden Floyd is scared? Read between the lines man. You never liked Floyd anyway. Dam dude.
Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Dear god its not about Manny taking a drug test. People are so ignorant to this topic...Manny feels weakened when he gives blood, I know how he feels as I feel the same way and I am f cuked for days afterwards. This cannot be good for prepartion for this fight.
Manny offered 24 days and straight after the fight! That is MORE then enough. Floyd is not god. He doesnt have the right to change the rules to suit himself! Don't people see that Floyd does NOT WANT THIS FIGHT! The drugs testing is such an obvious cover up. Sad thing is people who clearly know little about boxing are buying the bullsh!t Mayweather is selling.
God I want to scream..
its not about being god, its about the timeline one needs to beat a test and the test after the fight MEANS JACK SHIT.
Mack, please don't compare yourself to an elite athlete. Scream then...scream like a woman. Your body is sooo much different than his. Christ, we don't know anything about your past medical history. You could have some underlying condition or maybe its just placebo as to why you dont feel good after a blood test.
I've taken blood test during my small am's career as well as after. Neither time did I feel a thing. Its like 2-3 little little vials...and not all of the testing is blood....its the randomness of the tests they want more than anything.
Roach is like...it'll screw up camp and we'll lose days. Nobody will lose anything. There are probably a hundred very good reasons why Manny felt a little whatever after giving blood for the Morales fight, that is if he's even being truthful about it. So many plausible reasons that nobody touched on.
Look at it like this, and your a smart guy...I know you are...before Manny got the big big fights Roach said he would never EVER have Manny fight Floyd OR Margarito because of this and that reasoning. Now all of a sudden Floyd is scared? Read between the lines man. You never liked Floyd anyway. Dam dude.
You said it yourself, don't try to compare yourself to an elite athlete.
Realistically PBF was pushing buttons until he found an untenable one that would allow him to save face and his legacy. I asked you before, show proof of his PED use, otherwise all you're doing is libeling him, which would seem to be below your standards.
You said it yourself, don't try to compare yourself to an elite athlete.
Realistically PBF was pushing buttons until he found an untenable one that would allow him to save face and his legacy. I asked you before, show proof of his PED use, otherwise all you're doing is libeling him, which would seem to be below your standards.
McNulty I have never claimed to be an elite athlete but I was a national Amateur Bronze medalist and competed in Olympic trials was 2 wins away).
We can go back and forth on this but we are never going to agree. I have no doubt Pacman is clean. This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny.
Do people not realise the damage it would to do to Roach and Pacquaio if he wasn't clean! Why can't peole except the guy is a phenomanal athelete.
Bottom line yes there should be Olympic style testing but until there is Floyd is in the wrong and if I am Pacquaio I would not budge.
McNulty I have never claimed to be an elite athlete but I was a national Amateur Bronze medalist and competed in Olympic trials was 2 wins away).
We can go back and forth on this but we are never going to agree. I have no doubt Pacman is clean. This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny.
Only difference was is that I was in tip top shape for the am's...enough to go a 4-6 round pro fight. I'm sure my body at the time a closer comparison than Macks is. Dude I was doing rounds with Pemberton, Oliveira, etc. Call 'em b-level or whatever...fighters in my gym got quiet as fuck though when they wanted some work. I wasn't.
Take the test will give proof either way. Thats all he has to do. Roach has a chip on his shoulder that Floyd has any real clout, cuz Freddy thinks he's clout master usa. Floyd made a change in boxing, a change for the better. WADA is here and here to say...nothing Roach can say, shake, or do about it.
Only difference was is that I was in tip top shape for the am's...enough to go a 4-6 round pro fight. I'm sure my body at the time a closer comparison than Macks is. Dude I was doing rounds with Pemberton, Oliveira, etc. Call 'em b-level or whatever...fighters in my gym got quiet as fuck though when they wanted some work. I wasn't.
Take the test will give proof either way. Thats all he has to do. Roach has a chip on his shoulder that Floyd has any real clout, cuz Freddy thinks he's clout master usa. Floyd made a change in boxing, a change for the better. WADA is here and here to say...nothing Roach can say, shake, or do about it.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Mack05]This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny./Quote]
I'm 80% sure Malignaggi was the first one to open his mouth about Pac and PED's.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Mack05]This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny./Quote]
I'm 80% sure Malignaggi was the first one to open his mouth about Pac and PED's.
its not about being god, its about the timeline one needs to beat a test and the test after the fight MEANS JACK SHIT.
Mack, please don't compare yourself to an elite athlete. Scream then...scream like a woman. Your body is sooo much different than his. Christ, we don't know anything about your past medical history. You could have some underlying condition or maybe its just placebo as to why you dont feel good after a blood test.
I've taken blood test during my small am's career as well as after. Neither time did I feel a thing. Its like 2-3 little little vials...and not all of the testing is blood....its the randomness of the tests they want more than anything.
Roach is like...it'll screw up camp and we'll lose days. Nobody will lose anything. There are probably a hundred very good reasons why Manny felt a little whatever after giving blood for the Morales fight, that is if he's even being truthful about it. So many plausible reasons that nobody touched on.
Look at it like this, and your a smart guy...I know you are...before Manny got the big big fights Roach said he would never EVER have Manny fight Floyd OR Margarito because of this and that reasoning. Now all of a sudden Floyd is scared? Read between the lines man. You never liked Floyd anyway. Dam dude.
God bless how can one not take a test worth 25 million
Also don't kid yourself that McNulty isn't spot on about the date of the test and you know why
IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT FREDDY/PACQUIAO HAVE CHANGED AND ARGUED ABOUT
If Pacquiao agreed and passed (which I don't know why he wouldn't) then what would Floyd do
run scared away from 25 million guranteed
Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:
its not about being god, its about the timeline one needs to beat a test and the test after the fight MEANS JACK SHIT.
Mack, please don't compare yourself to an elite athlete. Scream then...scream like a woman. Your body is sooo much different than his. Christ, we don't know anything about your past medical history. You could have some underlying condition or maybe its just placebo as to why you dont feel good after a blood test.
I've taken blood test during my small am's career as well as after. Neither time did I feel a thing. Its like 2-3 little little vials...and not all of the testing is blood....its the randomness of the tests they want more than anything.
Roach is like...it'll screw up camp and we'll lose days. Nobody will lose anything. There are probably a hundred very good reasons why Manny felt a little whatever after giving blood for the Morales fight, that is if he's even being truthful about it. So many plausible reasons that nobody touched on.
Look at it like this, and your a smart guy...I know you are...before Manny got the big big fights Roach said he would never EVER have Manny fight Floyd OR Margarito because of this and that reasoning. Now all of a sudden Floyd is scared? Read between the lines man. You never liked Floyd anyway. Dam dude.
God bless how can one not take a test worth 25 million
Also don't kid yourself that McNulty isn't spot on about the date of the test and you know why
IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT FREDDY/PACQUIAO HAVE CHANGED AND ARGUED ABOUT
If Pacquiao agreed and passed (which I don't know why he wouldn't) then what would Floyd do
McNulty I have never claimed to be an elite athlete but I was a national Amateur Bronze medalist and competed in Olympic trials was 2 wins away).
We can go back and forth on this but we are never going to agree. I have no doubt Pacman is clean. This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny.
Do people not realise the damage it would to do to Roach and Pacquaio if he wasn't clean! Why can't peole except the guy is a phenomanal athelete.
Bottom line yes there should be Olympic style testing but until there is Floyd is in the wrong and if I am Pacquaio I would not budge.
WTF you agree that it should be in today but don't think we should use it in this fight b/c the person who requested it is not calling the shots
Since when is that the reasoning we use to disqualify improving something we all love
And you're right about someone having to hide something and why they keep making adjustment's to the date nothing withing 21 days BEFORE the fight but anything after b/c Pacquiao needs 3 fucking weeks to get his energy back from this blood test
I really can't believe anyone believes either of them but Floyd is in the driver postion due to his correct stance against the issue of PED's and the fact that anyone could make an argument to the contrary is the real joke NO WAY AROUND IT
P.S. This fight will happen unless Pac-Man retires which won't happen b/c the fillipino people being the smart people they are will not elect him like last time and make him continue his boxing career...
Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
McNulty I have never claimed to be an elite athlete but I was a national Amateur Bronze medalist and competed in Olympic trials was 2 wins away).
We can go back and forth on this but we are never going to agree. I have no doubt Pacman is clean. This only came about over some stupid claim by Floyd Mayweather senior with absolutely no basis or substance. The whole thing has gone hay wire. Before Floyd senior opened his mouth no one questioned Manny.
Do people not realise the damage it would to do to Roach and Pacquaio if he wasn't clean! Why can't peole except the guy is a phenomanal athelete.
Bottom line yes there should be Olympic style testing but until there is Floyd is in the wrong and if I am Pacquaio I would not budge.
WTF you agree that it should be in today but don't think we should use it in this fight b/c the person who requested it is not calling the shots
Since when is that the reasoning we use to disqualify improving something we all love
And you're right about someone having to hide something and why they keep making adjustment's to the date nothing withing 21 days BEFORE the fight but anything after b/c Pacquiao needs 3 fucking weeks to get his energy back from this blood test
I really can't believe anyone believes either of them but Floyd is in the driver postion due to his correct stance against the issue of PED's and the fact that anyone could make an argument to the contrary is the real joke NO WAY AROUND IT
P.S. This fight will happen unless Pac-Man retires which won't happen b/c the fillipino people being the smart people they are will not elect him like last time and make him continue his boxing career...
I can't see how this fight ever happens. The whole debate has fight fans completely divided. I don't see either side budging and in truth Floyd doesnt want this fight so it suits him just fine. In fact I would not be surprised if Mayweather's last fight is Mosley and Pacman now goes into semi retirement until a viable big fight comes along.
Think about it, who can either fighter fight now? Sure there are prospects like Valero, Bradley, Berto, Alexander, Khan but these guys are totally unproven at this level and I would think would need 3 years before being ready to fight Manny or Floyd.
Neither Manny or Floyd are no way in hell going to tough big Welterweights like Paul Williams and Margerhito. Which means the only fight left should Floyd beat Mosley (and I think he will fairly easily) is each other.
Unless this is all a masterplan to make even more money I can't see how the fight happens. Manny said last night he wanted to fight Mayweather as he knew thats what the fans want. You think Mayweather gives a crap about the fans! My ass he does. The existing rules and regulations for the Nevada commision have been in place for decades. One fighter can't decide to change them because he thinks his opponent may be on steroids (Mayweather has gone from 106 to 154, does that mean he too was on steroids?)! The fight happens if Floyd adheres to the existing standards! Simple as!
Drug testing can be improved in every sport and if Floyd somehow manages to get new improved procedures in place to catch out cheats, good on him. But until these new standards are put in place he and he alone is the reason the greatest fight in our era will never happen..
I will sorry for Pacman. These idiots the Mayweathers have blackened his name with no proof or evidence and all his amazing achievements are clouded with doubt. Pure and utter Bollox!
I can't see how this fight ever happens. The whole debate has fight fans completely divided. I don't see either side budging and in truth Floyd doesnt want this fight so it suits him just fine. In fact I would not be surprised if Mayweather's last fight is Mosley and Pacman now goes into semi retirement until a viable big fight comes along.
Think about it, who can either fighter fight now? Sure there are prospects like Valero, Bradley, Berto, Alexander, Khan but these guys are totally unproven at this level and I would think would need 3 years before being ready to fight Manny or Floyd.
Neither Manny or Floyd are no way in hell going to tough big Welterweights like Paul Williams and Margerhito. Which means the only fight left should Floyd beat Mosley (and I think he will fairly easily) is each other.
Unless this is all a masterplan to make even more money I can't see how the fight happens. Manny said last night he wanted to fight Mayweather as he knew thats what the fans want. You think Mayweather gives a crap about the fans! My ass he does. The existing rules and regulations for the Nevada commision have been in place for decades. One fighter can't decide to change them because he thinks his opponent may be on steroids (Mayweather has gone from 106 to 154, does that mean he too was on steroids?)! The fight happens if Floyd adheres to the existing standards! Simple as!
Drug testing can be improved in every sport and if Floyd somehow manages to get new improved procedures in place to catch out cheats, good on him. But until these new standards are put in place he and he alone is the reason the greatest fight in our era will never happen..
I will sorry for Pacman. These idiots the Mayweathers have blackened his name with no proof or evidence and all his amazing achievements are clouded with doubt. Pure and utter Bollox!
MAYFEATHER SHOULD DESTROY MOSLEY FIRST, IF NOT PACMAN WILL FIGHT MOSLEY. HE SAID IT AFTER THE FIGHT WITH CLOTTEY. MAYFEATHER DESTROYING PACMAN, ARE YOU OF YOUR MIND.
MAYFEATHER SHOULD DESTROY MOSLEY FIRST, IF NOT PACMAN WILL FIGHT MOSLEY. HE SAID IT AFTER THE FIGHT WITH CLOTTEY. MAYFEATHER DESTROYING PACMAN, ARE YOU OF YOUR MIND.
run scared away from 25 million guranteed
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