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    Rod's Boxing Saturday (12/8)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 6:33 PM ET #1

    I hope Pretty Boy enjoys his retirement after the bout:

    Hatton over Mayweather - (+180) (4)

    Total Rounds "under" 11.5 - (+220) (2)
     
     
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I hope Pretty Boy enjoys his retirement after the bout:

    Hatton over Mayweather - (+180) (4)

    Total Rounds "under" 11.5 - (+220) (2)
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 6:40 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 6:42 PM ET #3

    The public speaks
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    The public speaks
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 7:08 PM ET #4

     There is no way Floyd loses this fight mate! Most people think he will win a decision but im in the belief that the total disparity in talent will show and Floyd stops him....

    HATTON WINS = WISHFULL THINKING AT BEST

    He looked awesome against Castillo who is probably worn out due to so many wars.  These odds are generous to Hatton.

    FLOYD MAYWEATHER BY STOPPAGE! Unless the whinging suck hole hurts his hands....

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     There is no way Floyd loses this fight mate! Most people think he will win a decision but im in the belief that the total disparity in talent will show and Floyd stops him....

    HATTON WINS = WISHFULL THINKING AT BEST

    He looked awesome against Castillo who is probably worn out due to so many wars.  These odds are generous to Hatton.

    FLOYD MAYWEATHER BY STOPPAGE! Unless the whinging suck hole hurts his hands....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 7:46 PM ET #5

    I like the pick...why not fuck it...I thought he looked bad against pretty boy last fight...
     
    rod you know you can get better odds than that on hatton right?
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    I like the pick...why not fuck it...I thought he looked bad against pretty boy last fight...
     
    rod you know you can get better odds than that on hatton right?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 7:59 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpunta:

     There is no way Floyd loses this fight mate! Most people think he will win a decision but im in the belief that the total disparity in talent will show and Floyd stops him....

    HATTON WINS = WISHFULL THINKING AT BEST

    He looked awesome against Castillo who is probably worn out due to so many wars.  These odds are generous to Hatton.

    FLOYD MAYWEATHER BY STOPPAGE! Unless the whinging suck hole hurts his hands....

    This is Pretty boy version 2008 boxing tomorrow night not the one who was destroying opposition earlier this decade. Too many people hopping on the PBF based on his rep of the past and frankly I question anyone who actually has watched the Hitman fight.

    PBF is the favourite, but not as much as the odds suggest. At best 55/45 IMO hence I take the inflated odds on Hatton to win. Also I know Hatton has to KO PBF to win, if it goes to the cards he clearly is fighting an uphill battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpunta:

     There is no way Floyd loses this fight mate! Most people think he will win a decision but im in the belief that the total disparity in talent will show and Floyd stops him....

    HATTON WINS = WISHFULL THINKING AT BEST

    He looked awesome against Castillo who is probably worn out due to so many wars.  These odds are generous to Hatton.

    FLOYD MAYWEATHER BY STOPPAGE! Unless the whinging suck hole hurts his hands....

    This is Pretty boy version 2008 boxing tomorrow night not the one who was destroying opposition earlier this decade. Too many people hopping on the PBF based on his rep of the past and frankly I question anyone who actually has watched the Hitman fight.

    PBF is the favourite, but not as much as the odds suggest. At best 55/45 IMO hence I take the inflated odds on Hatton to win. Also I know Hatton has to KO PBF to win, if it goes to the cards he clearly is fighting an uphill battle.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 8:00 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Obe1Kanobe:

    I like the pick...why not fuck it...I thought he looked bad against pretty boy last fight...
     
    rod you know you can get better odds than that on hatton right?

    This is the best I could find, I'm kicking myself because only a month ago Hatton was a staggering +220 to win and at the time I thought those odds were a joke but didn't pull the trigger then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obe1Kanobe:

    I like the pick...why not fuck it...I thought he looked bad against pretty boy last fight...
     
    rod you know you can get better odds than that on hatton right?

    This is the best I could find, I'm kicking myself because only a month ago Hatton was a staggering +220 to win and at the time I thought those odds were a joke but didn't pull the trigger then.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 9:51 PM ET #8

    I dont agree here rod but I respect your pick, your pick is well correlated, if hattons wins it wont be by decision but I really think it is a huge difference in talent in this fight, if PBF studied hatton which I think he did, he wont let hatton use his "strategies" like holding and all that shit, PBF is too smart and fast for hatton I dont think PBF will let hatton get inside him he will out box him and hatton will have to change his strategy losing all he has....
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    I dont agree here rod but I respect your pick, your pick is well correlated, if hattons wins it wont be by decision but I really think it is a huge difference in talent in this fight, if PBF studied hatton which I think he did, he wont let hatton use his "strategies" like holding and all that shit, PBF is too smart and fast for hatton I dont think PBF will let hatton get inside him he will out box him and hatton will have to change his strategy losing all he has....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 9:58 PM ET #9

    Fair enough Gmo, like I said with boxing or any other sport I cap based on what I perceive as "value"
     
    GL to you as well
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    Fair enough Gmo, like I said with boxing or any other sport I cap based on what I perceive as "value"
     
    GL to you as well
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 10:26 PM ET #10

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 10:27 PM ET #11

    Can I just have your money, you are throwing away.

    Please
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    Can I just have your money, you are throwing away.

    Please
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2007 - 11:44 PM ET #12

    Rod , this fight opened at 3-1 or better. Where is the value at plus 2-1 or less?
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    Rod , this fight opened at 3-1 or better. Where is the value at plus 2-1 or less?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 12:43 AM ET #13

    Hope Hatton wins can't stand Mayweather but I think its wishful thinking Mayweather should handle business and win easily in this one, but go Hatton. 
     
    I hope your right Rod.
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    Hope Hatton wins can't stand Mayweather but I think its wishful thinking Mayweather should handle business and win easily in this one, but go Hatton. 
     
    I hope your right Rod.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 12:56 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by damonte:

    Rod , this fight opened at 3-1 or better. Where is the value at plus 2-1 or less?

    If I think the fight is 55/45 towards PBF yet I can still get Hatton at +180 I say that's value.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by damonte:

    Rod , this fight opened at 3-1 or better. Where is the value at plus 2-1 or less?

    If I think the fight is 55/45 towards PBF yet I can still get Hatton at +180 I say that's value.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 12:58 AM ET #15

    I give it 30 min for another jackass to come into the thread and tell me the fight is 100/0 towards PBF so therefore he should be priced at -100000000000 for the win instead  
     
     
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    I give it 30 min for another jackass to come into the thread and tell me the fight is 100/0 towards PBF so therefore he should be priced at -100000000000 for the win instead  
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 12:59 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by asloper6001:

    Can I just have your money, you are throwing away.

    Please

    Why are concerned with taking my money when you can take Vegas' money in an unlimited amount? Go sell your mortgage and place it on PBF then you goose.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by asloper6001:

    Can I just have your money, you are throwing away.

    Please

    Why are concerned with taking my money when you can take Vegas' money in an unlimited amount? Go sell your mortgage and place it on PBF then you goose.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    I give it 30 min for another jackass to come into the thread and tell me the fight is 100/0 towards PBF so therefore he should be priced at -100000000000 for the win instead  
     
     



    LOL.  The boxing board here takes on a different look when a mega-mega fight week arrives.  Putdowns and uninformed breakdowns seem to become the norm. The boxing IQ on the board definitely drops considerably.  Good luck Rod, like GMO said, I respect your pick.  This fight isn't as lopsided as some of these jokers think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    I give it 30 min for another jackass to come into the thread and tell me the fight is 100/0 towards PBF so therefore he should be priced at -100000000000 for the win instead  
     
     



    LOL.  The boxing board here takes on a different look when a mega-mega fight week arrives.  Putdowns and uninformed breakdowns seem to become the norm. The boxing IQ on the board definitely drops considerably.  Good luck Rod, like GMO said, I respect your pick.  This fight isn't as lopsided as some of these jokers think.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 3:15 AM ET #18

    Like James Toney said " You play baseball You play football You dont play boxing" This sports the most real shit out and i respect you as a capper but you need to cap what you know Hatton can win but its  prob not going to Hatton
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    Like James Toney said " You play baseball You play football You dont play boxing" This sports the most real shit out and i respect you as a capper but you need to cap what you know Hatton can win but its  prob not going to Hatton
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 3:24 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:




    LOL.  The boxing board here takes on a different look when a mega-mega fight week arrives.  Putdowns and uninformed breakdowns seem to become the norm. The boxing IQ on the board definitely drops considerably.  Good luck Rod, like GMO said, I respect your pick.  This fight isn't as lopsided as some of these jokers think.
    You are right FB week in and week out the Boxing forum is the most knowledgeable by far.Not that there are not good handi cappers in the other forums but the others are to saturated with  fly by nights and bull shit.Besides the MMA forum we are the best covers has to offer on the sport we know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:




    LOL.  The boxing board here takes on a different look when a mega-mega fight week arrives.  Putdowns and uninformed breakdowns seem to become the norm. The boxing IQ on the board definitely drops considerably.  Good luck Rod, like GMO said, I respect your pick.  This fight isn't as lopsided as some of these jokers think.
    You are right FB week in and week out the Boxing forum is the most knowledgeable by far.Not that there are not good handi cappers in the other forums but the others are to saturated with  fly by nights and bull shit.Besides the MMA forum we are the best covers has to offer on the sport we know
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 4:07 AM ET #20

    Rod-
     
    Well done, man.  With you on it with Hatton +9.5.
     
    Pay no attention to the clowns in here, man, just take their money.
     
    Cheers
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    Rod-
     
    Well done, man.  With you on it with Hatton +9.5.
     
    Pay no attention to the clowns in here, man, just take their money.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 6:26 AM ET #21

    Just some brief thoughts of mine about the fight itself
     
    How is Hatton going to beat Mayweather?
     
    One thing is determination and not taking a backward step. So many of Mayweather's previous opponents are beaten before they step into the ring. Hatton has talked the talk so far in the leadup and you only have to look at the way he fights to know that he won't be intimidated by Mayweather. Of course he hasn't fought the pedigree that Mayweather has fought nor does he have the "big fight" experience but he has fought in Vegas a few times now and has fought 3 times this year.
     
    Hatton's gameplan will be simple IMO - keep harrasing PBF with short sharp bursts of punches and get out . This isn't going to be pretty, there will be lot of grabbing, holding and wrestling. I can see him employ a very similar and specific tactic as he used against Tszyu where he will close the ring down to favour and work off the left jab following it with the body punches. People can say that PBF will have the speed to ensure that this doesn't happen but there will be times where Hatton will get his chances and with each of the rounds being invariably close it will be a case of who gets the cleaner punches in.
     
    Concerns:-
    *Hatton's last fight at Welterweight against Collazo he laboured through much of the fight. However on the flipside his preparation for this fight has been much more precise, flying to Vegas 2 weeks out from the fight and looks in much better shape this time around.
    *Hitman is susceptible to getting cuts which could even cause a stoppage of the fight. It's a problem he has had over his whole career.
     
    good luck should be a great fight and like I have said above will be much closer than what people are predicting IMO hence I have taken the + money.
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    Just some brief thoughts of mine about the fight itself
     
    How is Hatton going to beat Mayweather?
     
    One thing is determination and not taking a backward step. So many of Mayweather's previous opponents are beaten before they step into the ring. Hatton has talked the talk so far in the leadup and you only have to look at the way he fights to know that he won't be intimidated by Mayweather. Of course he hasn't fought the pedigree that Mayweather has fought nor does he have the "big fight" experience but he has fought in Vegas a few times now and has fought 3 times this year.
     
    Hatton's gameplan will be simple IMO - keep harrasing PBF with short sharp bursts of punches and get out . This isn't going to be pretty, there will be lot of grabbing, holding and wrestling. I can see him employ a very similar and specific tactic as he used against Tszyu where he will close the ring down to favour and work off the left jab following it with the body punches. People can say that PBF will have the speed to ensure that this doesn't happen but there will be times where Hatton will get his chances and with each of the rounds being invariably close it will be a case of who gets the cleaner punches in.
     
    Concerns:-
    *Hatton's last fight at Welterweight against Collazo he laboured through much of the fight. However on the flipside his preparation for this fight has been much more precise, flying to Vegas 2 weeks out from the fight and looks in much better shape this time around.
    *Hitman is susceptible to getting cuts which could even cause a stoppage of the fight. It's a problem he has had over his whole career.
     
    good luck should be a great fight and like I have said above will be much closer than what people are predicting IMO hence I have taken the + money.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 6:30 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    Like James Toney said " You play baseball You play football You dont play boxing" This sports the most real shit out and i respect you as a capper but you need to cap what you know Hatton can win but its  prob not going to Hatton

    LOL so there is a unwritten rule that if you don't participate in the boxing forum week in week out you are branded as someone who doesn't know the sport?

    Get a grip dude, I'm not coming here an invading your space. I do read posts from guys like fullbrights and bigeii who know their shit, all I wanted to do was offer an alternative opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    Like James Toney said " You play baseball You play football You dont play boxing" This sports the most real shit out and i respect you as a capper but you need to cap what you know Hatton can win but its  prob not going to Hatton

    LOL so there is a unwritten rule that if you don't participate in the boxing forum week in week out you are branded as someone who doesn't know the sport?

    Get a grip dude, I'm not coming here an invading your space. I do read posts from guys like fullbrights and bigeii who know their shit, all I wanted to do was offer an alternative opinion.

     
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    Love Hatton in this fight Rod. I hadn't seen the kid until the Kostya fight (sob, sob) and we all know how that ended. Sure Kostya may have fought one fight too many, but there wasn't any other welterweights to beat. What struck me in that fight was that he came with a plan, and he didn't budge from it.
     
    As you have noted, Hatton won't be intimidated by Mayweather as it is Mayweather who has all the pressure on him. I think Hatton has a huge chance, just my opinion. Do we all remember what happened to Zab Juda?
     
    GL mate and go Hatton  
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    Love Hatton in this fight Rod. I hadn't seen the kid until the Kostya fight (sob, sob) and we all know how that ended. Sure Kostya may have fought one fight too many, but there wasn't any other welterweights to beat. What struck me in that fight was that he came with a plan, and he didn't budge from it.
     
    As you have noted, Hatton won't be intimidated by Mayweather as it is Mayweather who has all the pressure on him. I think Hatton has a huge chance, just my opinion. Do we all remember what happened to Zab Juda?
     
    GL mate and go Hatton  
     
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    gl rod
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    gl rod
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2007 - 2:37 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    LOL so there is a unwritten rule that if you don't participate in the boxing forum week in week out you are branded as someone who doesn't know the sport?

    Get a grip dude, I'm not coming here an invading your space. I do read posts from guys like fullbrights and bigeii who know their shit, all I wanted to do was offer an alternative opinion.

     You are totally right Homey had a few 2 many Guiness last night good luck on your picks well besides Hatton as im going huge on PBF
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    LOL so there is a unwritten rule that if you don't participate in the boxing forum week in week out you are branded as someone who doesn't know the sport?

    Get a grip dude, I'm not coming here an invading your space. I do read posts from guys like fullbrights and bigeii who know their shit, all I wanted to do was offer an alternative opinion.

     You are totally right Homey had a few 2 many Guiness last night good luck on your picks well besides Hatton as im going huge on PBF
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