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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:12 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by mayweatherfan:

    I'll have to rewatch it but I thought Cunningham lost round 11 clearly. I thought he lost by 2, at best for him.


    Yeah, I don't remember right now what got him the round in my mind; I think it was the fact that he was just much more effective and active throughout it; I think Adamek did land some telling blows that round, but it wasn't enough to me.

    Tough result last weekend buddy, but with the way your year has gone I'm sure it's not a killer by any means. 

    I'm large on the under today on the same level of the under in Cotto-Gomez.  I guess I will call it my co-play of the year, hopefully the results are similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayweatherfan:

    I'll have to rewatch it but I thought Cunningham lost round 11 clearly. I thought he lost by 2, at best for him.


    Yeah, I don't remember right now what got him the round in my mind; I think it was the fact that he was just much more effective and active throughout it; I think Adamek did land some telling blows that round, but it wasn't enough to me.

    Tough result last weekend buddy, but with the way your year has gone I'm sure it's not a killer by any means. 

    I'm large on the under today on the same level of the under in Cotto-Gomez.  I guess I will call it my co-play of the year, hopefully the results are similar.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:16 PM ET #77

    More on the under this afternoon after what transpired at the scales; don't be shy with the towel today Buddy, we all know you love that white blood spattered fabric with a passion.  If Wlad is cautious today then he has no one to blame but himself for not being accepted by the public and pundits as the best heavyweight around hands down.  Surely Steward knows what is in front of him tonight after his experience with Lewis and Rahman is even more depleted at this point.  Largest play of the year along with the under in Cotto-Gomez earlier this year, I wouldn't complain a bit with similar results.  Big afternoon today.

    2.7 units more on under 6.5 rounds (-135) in Klitschko-Rahman
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    More on the under this afternoon after what transpired at the scales; don't be shy with the towel today Buddy, we all know you love that white blood spattered fabric with a passion.  If Wlad is cautious today then he has no one to blame but himself for not being accepted by the public and pundits as the best heavyweight around hands down.  Surely Steward knows what is in front of him tonight after his experience with Lewis and Rahman is even more depleted at this point.  Largest play of the year along with the under in Cotto-Gomez earlier this year, I wouldn't complain a bit with similar results.  Big afternoon today.

    2.7 units more on under 6.5 rounds (-135) in Klitschko-Rahman
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 2:15 PM ET #78

    is the fight on HBO or pay per view? thanks guys
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    is the fight on HBO or pay per view? thanks guys
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 4:54 PM ET #79

    Would you hit under 5.5?
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    Would you hit under 5.5?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 5:40 PM ET #80

    Man...I bet you were shittin your pants bro...Congrats
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    Man...I bet you were shittin your pants bro...Congrats
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 5:43 PM ET #81

    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well
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    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 5:58 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well

     

    also goes to show that Klitzscho is afriad to get hit hard...Haye might have a punchers chance if he wacks hit chin with a couple of manny sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well

     

    also goes to show that Klitzscho is afriad to get hit hard...Haye might have a punchers chance if he wacks hit chin with a couple of manny sticks.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 6:12 PM ET #83

    I had Povetkin pegged to beat Wlad before he got injured.
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    I had Povetkin pegged to beat Wlad before he got injured.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 9:21 PM ET #84

    on this afternoon's results.

    Be back in a few to get into some of the threads.  Did want to go ahead and post a couple more plays that I am down on.

    .80 of a unit on under 9.5 rounds (+250) in Toney-Oquendo
    I just think the line is a bit off here, you have two old guys whose bodies are breaking down a bit and Oquendo is pretty easy to hit if he isn't running from Holyfield still.  I even thought Javier Mora who is a bum and makes James look like he has a supermodel body had Oquendo in some rough spots late.  We will see what happens, but I think around 8-9-10 you won't be watching it thinking it is about a 3-1 shot that this thing goes under.

    1.80 units on Hopkins (+170) vs Holt
    Following some of the line movement here along with the much publicized amateur head to head record.  Maybe the last minute Hopkins insert is exactly the thing to really throw Holt off; definitely a far different style then Torres.  Holt is mentally fragile along with his chin, sure wish Hopkins had more of a punch to exploit his whiskers.  I would have like to have gotten some outcome props here, I think the draw also has a shot.  I think it's going to be a very close fight.
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    on this afternoon's results.

    Be back in a few to get into some of the threads.  Did want to go ahead and post a couple more plays that I am down on.

    .80 of a unit on under 9.5 rounds (+250) in Toney-Oquendo
    I just think the line is a bit off here, you have two old guys whose bodies are breaking down a bit and Oquendo is pretty easy to hit if he isn't running from Holyfield still.  I even thought Javier Mora who is a bum and makes James look like he has a supermodel body had Oquendo in some rough spots late.  We will see what happens, but I think around 8-9-10 you won't be watching it thinking it is about a 3-1 shot that this thing goes under.

    1.80 units on Hopkins (+170) vs Holt
    Following some of the line movement here along with the much publicized amateur head to head record.  Maybe the last minute Hopkins insert is exactly the thing to really throw Holt off; definitely a far different style then Torres.  Holt is mentally fragile along with his chin, sure wish Hopkins had more of a punch to exploit his whiskers.  I would have like to have gotten some outcome props here, I think the draw also has a shot.  I think it's going to be a very close fight.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 9:27 PM ET #85

    Thanks FBS, I was contemplating that under, but I think I'll take a little bit on it now.  I was  as to why that is so much + money, but I'll trust my first instinct and ride it with you as well.
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    Thanks FBS, I was contemplating that under, but I think I'll take a little bit on it now.  I was  as to why that is so much + money, but I'll trust my first instinct and ride it with you as well.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 9:34 PM ET #86

    2 fights so far, 2 quick endings.  Let's hope the Toney fight follows suit
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    2 fights so far, 2 quick endings.  Let's hope the Toney fight follows suit
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 9:53 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by Kidcole35:

    I had Povetkin pegged to beat Wlad before he got injured.


    Really?  Povetkin showed me so many flaws against Chambers, way to many to even be competitive with Wlad.  To me Chambers could have beat him with just a heavy dose of will power and more of a willingness to engage. IMO, Povetkin pulling out of that fight and getting a few more fights under his belt is a great thing for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidcole35:

    I had Povetkin pegged to beat Wlad before he got injured.


    Really?  Povetkin showed me so many flaws against Chambers, way to many to even be competitive with Wlad.  To me Chambers could have beat him with just a heavy dose of will power and more of a willingness to engage. IMO, Povetkin pulling out of that fight and getting a few more fights under his belt is a great thing for him.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 9:57 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

     

    also goes to show that Klitzscho is afriad to get hit hard...Haye might have a punchers chance if he wacks hit chin with a couple of manny sticks.



    Completely agree.  The fights I want to see in the HW division right now are either Klitschko vs Valuev, so Sasquatch can fall and call it a career or either Klitschko vs Haye.  Give Haye one more tuneup against maybe a Tony Thompson or Jameel McCline and then put him in against either one of the brothers.  Haye vs either Klitschko would be a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

     

    also goes to show that Klitzscho is afriad to get hit hard...Haye might have a punchers chance if he wacks hit chin with a couple of manny sticks.



    Completely agree.  The fights I want to see in the HW division right now are either Klitschko vs Valuev, so Sasquatch can fall and call it a career or either Klitschko vs Haye.  Give Haye one more tuneup against maybe a Tony Thompson or Jameel McCline and then put him in against either one of the brothers.  Haye vs either Klitschko would be a lot of fun.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 10:11 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    Man...I bet you were shittin your pants bro...Congrats


    Not quite on that level because any bet I make I am prepared to lose or not close to being over extended, but I was definitely sweating like I was in the Sahara desert because it was there for the taking.  The environment that I actually watched the fight in made it even worse.  Me and my wife had to attend a drop in engagement party for some of our friends while the fight was going on.  Luckily they did have HBO, but the only problem was I got the host to put it on in the den with the sound off since I definitely didn't want to spoil the fun with my screaming.  So in essence I had to watch the fight without sound and not really showing much emotion, which definitely was the right thing to do, but my wife had already given me fair warning to not make a fool out of myself like usual and ruin their party.  So it was very tough to watch under the circumstances.  Basically Rock was a human punching bag there for the taking throughout, I couldn't tell what was being said in the corner after the 6th, but it looked like McGirt was thinking about going to back to his best friend the towel once again.  Wlad should have definitely been more authoritative in going for the kill, but I knew that is his MO and just figured that it wouldn't matter.  I thought Rock wouldn't take his heavy shots as long as he did even if Wlad was taking his time, he did take them for a quite a while to my surprise.  Good for me though that it didn't matter in the end.  I will though never try to watch a fight under those circumstance again especially with the kind of money that I had on the line today.  I taped it and want to watch it again with some sound to hear a bit what was going on and be allowed to really enjoy it.  They don't write descriptions next to wins when they grade them just like they don't on losses.  Good win guys, I think a lot of us did well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    Man...I bet you were shittin your pants bro...Congrats


    Not quite on that level because any bet I make I am prepared to lose or not close to being over extended, but I was definitely sweating like I was in the Sahara desert because it was there for the taking.  The environment that I actually watched the fight in made it even worse.  Me and my wife had to attend a drop in engagement party for some of our friends while the fight was going on.  Luckily they did have HBO, but the only problem was I got the host to put it on in the den with the sound off since I definitely didn't want to spoil the fun with my screaming.  So in essence I had to watch the fight without sound and not really showing much emotion, which definitely was the right thing to do, but my wife had already given me fair warning to not make a fool out of myself like usual and ruin their party.  So it was very tough to watch under the circumstances.  Basically Rock was a human punching bag there for the taking throughout, I couldn't tell what was being said in the corner after the 6th, but it looked like McGirt was thinking about going to back to his best friend the towel once again.  Wlad should have definitely been more authoritative in going for the kill, but I knew that is his MO and just figured that it wouldn't matter.  I thought Rock wouldn't take his heavy shots as long as he did even if Wlad was taking his time, he did take them for a quite a while to my surprise.  Good for me though that it didn't matter in the end.  I will though never try to watch a fight under those circumstance again especially with the kind of money that I had on the line today.  I taped it and want to watch it again with some sound to hear a bit what was going on and be allowed to really enjoy it.  They don't write descriptions next to wins when they grade them just like they don't on losses.  Good win guys, I think a lot of us did well.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 10:15 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well


    Well I don't think Wlad is trash he is just way too methodical for his own good.  It translates into wins by KO, but fails to really grab the public's attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    For anyone keeping a mental note, it took Wlad over 6 rounds to dispose of a heavyweight FAR past his prime, with a pension to hit the mat, that wasn't fighting back AT ALL.  Just goes to show you how trash this division really is
     
    Nice hit FBS, I was on it as well


    Well I don't think Wlad is trash he is just way too methodical for his own good.  It translates into wins by KO, but fails to really grab the public's attention.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 10:16 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Thanks FBS, I was contemplating that under, but I think I'll take a little bit on it now.  I was  as to why that is so much + money, but I'll trust my first instinct and ride it with you as well.


    Yeah, we will see.  Good luck to us.  Toney staggered him in the first, but I don't know if that's a sign of things to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Thanks FBS, I was contemplating that under, but I think I'll take a little bit on it now.  I was  as to why that is so much + money, but I'll trust my first instinct and ride it with you as well.


    Yeah, we will see.  Good luck to us.  Toney staggered him in the first, but I don't know if that's a sign of things to come.
     
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    6.25 units on under 6.5 (-125) in Klitschko-Rahman
    2.7 units on under 6.5 (-135) in Klitschko-Rahman

    .50 of a unit to win 3.6
    Klitschko-Rahman under 6.5 (-135)
    Bundrage-Baysangurov under 8.5 (-270)'
    Hopkins-Holt over 11.5 (-170)
    Foreman-Moore over 9.5 (-320)
    Toney (-270)
    Garcia (-925)
    Valuev (-1150)

    What an upset by K9 guys, I'll take it for the under, but man I have always thought he was trash.  Anyone see it?
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    6.25 units on under 6.5 (-125) in Klitschko-Rahman
    2.7 units on under 6.5 (-135) in Klitschko-Rahman

    .50 of a unit to win 3.6
    Klitschko-Rahman under 6.5 (-135)
    Bundrage-Baysangurov under 8.5 (-270)'
    Hopkins-Holt over 11.5 (-170)
    Foreman-Moore over 9.5 (-320)
    Toney (-270)
    Garcia (-925)
    Valuev (-1150)

    What an upset by K9 guys, I'll take it for the under, but man I have always thought he was trash.  Anyone see it?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    Well I don't think Wlad is trash he is just way too methodical for his own good.  It translates into wins by KO, but fails to really grab the public's attention.

    I think he's got one hell of a jab, and was blessed with the physique of that reach and height advantage, but his heart just doesn't seem to be there.  Every time I watch his fights I have the same complaint that they should end a lot sooner than they do, and it's because he never goes for the kill shots when they're being handed to him on a silver platter. 

    Granted, like you said, it translates to wins by KO, and that's the bottom line. . . but I think he isn't doing himself any favors by letting guys hang around and not taking care of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    Well I don't think Wlad is trash he is just way too methodical for his own good.  It translates into wins by KO, but fails to really grab the public's attention.

    I think he's got one hell of a jab, and was blessed with the physique of that reach and height advantage, but his heart just doesn't seem to be there.  Every time I watch his fights I have the same complaint that they should end a lot sooner than they do, and it's because he never goes for the kill shots when they're being handed to him on a silver platter. 

    Granted, like you said, it translates to wins by KO, and that's the bottom line. . . but I think he isn't doing himself any favors by letting guys hang around and not taking care of business.

     
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    G8RB8, looks like it is probably going to go over the number unless something big in our favor happens.

    Tough luck on your idol Tebow not winning the Heisman, but I really thought one of the other two deserved it.  If Tebow was able to get it off of his numbers last year, the same should have gone for Bradford.
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    G8RB8, looks like it is probably going to go over the number unless something big in our favor happens.

    Tough luck on your idol Tebow not winning the Heisman, but I really thought one of the other two deserved it.  If Tebow was able to get it off of his numbers last year, the same should have gone for Bradford.
     
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    If I had a vote, I'd have actually voted McCoy to be honest.
     
    Pretty weird how Tebow had the most 1st place votes and came in 3rd though.  Also, the stupid ass that voted for Pat White should be castrated.  In a race that was known to be close, that could have been the deciding vote. 
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    If I had a vote, I'd have actually voted McCoy to be honest.
     
    Pretty weird how Tebow had the most 1st place votes and came in 3rd though.  Also, the stupid ass that voted for Pat White should be castrated.  In a race that was known to be close, that could have been the deciding vote. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    If I had a vote, I'd have actually voted McCoy to be honest.
     
    Pretty weird how Tebow had the most 1st place votes and came in 3rd though.  Also, the stupid ass that voted for Pat White should be castrated.  In a race that was known to be close, that could have been the deciding vote. 


    Lol, I didn't see that about the vote for White.  What a joke.

    Sorry for influencing you on this one, I thought it was worth a smaller play on value, but there is no value in losing.  Maybe Fres will get a quick DQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    If I had a vote, I'd have actually voted McCoy to be honest.
     
    Pretty weird how Tebow had the most 1st place votes and came in 3rd though.  Also, the stupid ass that voted for Pat White should be castrated.  In a race that was known to be close, that could have been the deciding vote. 


    Lol, I didn't see that about the vote for White.  What a joke.

    Sorry for influencing you on this one, I thought it was worth a smaller play on value, but there is no value in losing.  Maybe Fres will get a quick DQ.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 10:48 PM ET #97

    It's all good my friend. . .  by far you've led me into more winners than losers.  I thought the value was there all along myself
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    It's all good my friend. . .  by far you've led me into more winners than losers.  I thought the value was there all along myself
     
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    Should be an interesting decision here.
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    Should be an interesting decision here.
     
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    I have it for Fres 114-113.
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    I have it for Fres 114-113.
     
     
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    Wow.  I had a bit on Toney, and I had already counted that as a loss. 

     

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    Wow.  I had a bit on Toney, and I had already counted that as a loss. 

     

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