Mayweather vs Pacquiao (if and why)

The reason Mayweather is hesitant is inside Manny's short arms with speed give him the tactical, which Floyd doesn't like. Manny can fire while being hit as well. It is something Floyd has hesitated for a long time on, but at distance he owns Manny. The conditions for the fight determine the outcome. I've said it won't happen unless they both are active in a year or few!
Manny wanted this fight. He has lost, and doesn't need to have an impressive record to be impressive. Floyd wants to retire undefeated!

no, Floyd would dominate this fight and stop Pacquiao.  There's no way in hell Pacquiao would get in range.  Floyd would systematically break Pac down and stop in mid fight.  

OK...under 7 u had??? Did my TRIANGLE THEORY WORK???? YES!

Only reason stopping it in my opinion is money.

Everyone knows you are a joke. Yes Floyd most likely would win, but he wants Manny as they both decline, leaving pure technique!!! Floyd plays the fights and fans like a chess master... he gets paid for fights that are over before they even start@! The conditions create the fight. Hagler vs Leonard... Leonard made 12rnd and wouldn't go 15 with Hagler for good reason. He picked the ring, gloves, attendees..etc! LOL

LawsonJames: Check the history... Manny offered less already... then whoops, Floyd has jail time, NO FIGHT. But why does he get to fight Cotto? Think about it, really! GL buddy@

And the fact mayweather still thinks pac is on roids

Is using Lidocaine? Basically numbing pain? To me, yes. many Boxers use it. I had similar probs, but it was by wrists and forearms couldn't handle my punching power at 147lbs when I was 17! It took several years to build tendons around, not the muscle itself. Most injuries are caused as muscle gains 3 to 4 times faster than tendon (muscle to bone) and ligaments (bone to bone). Thus people go to fast with weights and nearly every athletes injuries stems from weight training (unknowingly). I got some great information from Russian Scientist who did a 30 year study. It's not published, but some books are for those truly interest in peak performance. The key to staying in shape and the best way not to get hurt is prevention. Smart training, not just hardcore training with weights! Bad weight lifting material ruined many (could have been) greats and HOF athletes if they didn't get mislead!

they wont fight unless ONE of the or both needs the money or loses first, and then has to take the fight by giving into the other.

neither wants to deal with the other's shit because they both think they are the pound for pound best

it's not about money or percent, it's about respect

manny feels disrespected about the PED allegations, now it's the money at 6-40

neither really wants to deal with the other

no fight when they are both in their primes

ive been saying this to everyone i know for nearly 3 yrs now

i stick by it

If?  No, it won't happen.

Why?  I have long been over caring about this mythical matchup, and only care about fights that actually happen.

I agree. But I see so many BS reasons why the fight wont happen.

it seems like mayweather is always coming up with excuses, he is scared of pacquaio

pacqiaio ppv fights don't make as much as mayweathers do.
so why should it be a 50/50 split.
Mayweather 40 million
simple as that

Why should box get more than pac? Mayweather still hasnt fought MARGARITO!! He still needs to prove that he can beat Margarito!!

Mayweather doesnt need to fight margarito. Margarito would lose by stoppage from a fucked up face in the 9th round

I can't believe how silly this debate has become. It's very simple why this fight hasn't happened yet.

that is one hell of a good point and I agree, but it is a shame when 2 milti millionaire fighters who have made more than enough to live extravigantly for the rest of their lives, don't just go in their and see who the best is, be men, take the drug tests, make it a 50 -50 split and lets see who is better, boxing used to be about proving who the best is, in this case they care more about money then their legacy's that will live on forever and this troubles me very much. we need to sit these guys down and let them watch some ezzard charles, ike williams, archie moore, tony canzoneri,gene fullmer,carmine basilio (just to name a few) fights, they fought with such great pride, to them the money was secondary, they fought first to prove that they were number one, the way it should be. suck up your pride at the nagotiation table and settle this shit in the fucking ring, they way they used to do it.

Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

that is one hell of a good point and I agree, but it is a shame when 2 milti millionaire fighters who have made more than enough to live extravigantly for the rest of their lives, don't just go in their and see who the best is, be men, take the drug tests, make it a 50 -50 split and lets see who is better, boxing used to be about proving who the best is, in this case they care more about money then their legacy's that will live on forever and this troubles me very much. we need to sit these guys down and let them watch some ezzard charles, ike williams, archie moore, tony canzoneri,gene fullmer,carmine basilio (just to name a few) fights, they fought with such great pride, to them the money was secondary, they fought first to prove that they were number one, the way it should be. suck up your pride at the nagotiation table and settle this shit in the fucking ring, they way they used to do it.

Finally someone with some sense.  I've been saying this for the last couple of years.  That's why I don't waste my time or money buying Mayweather's shows.  I don't care how entertaining some idiots think his shows are, including this last fight, the Cotto mismatch.  Floyd says, "I gave the fans what they wanted!"  Really Floyd?  Cause the last I checked Cotto was in the ring AND NOT Pacquiao.  That's what I want, I want to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao.  Period.  Won't waste my time or money watching anything else involving Mayweather.  Who won by the way? 

Pac has 38 wins by KO

Every time Pac stepped in the ring, he knew he could lose. Pac has fought the best of the best.

The only people, who think May, can beat Pac, are black people riding his balls.

May has 26 wins by KO

May has fought hand picked, carefully selected opponents, and all the big names, at the end of their careers.

It’s the most artificial record in boxing history!

The ONLY reason May gets more PPV buyers is because people tune in to see him LOSE!

When I think of Ali, I think of the greatest of all time.

When I think of Foreman, I think of the thrilla, and one of the greatest, and the grill.

When I think about May, I think hand picked opponents and the first boxer in boxing history to actually be afraid of fighting another boxer. Think about that, a fighter who’s afraid to fight!

They should call May the black wet chiwawa because he is shaking like a freezing soaking wet chiwawa dog. All bark with no bite.

ZOUK it is about the undefeated streak. He has it in his delusional head that it means something. The wizards went undefeated against the bobcats this season.

The unbeaten 35-year-old champion late Saturday said he’s leaning "80-20" toward retirement.

On a possible Pacquiao fight, Mayweather said, "It’s not going to happen."

It’s not going to happen man. Why, because keep duckin Floyd is afraid of Tong Po from the movie kickboxer.

MoneySRH

well said

you have no idea what the hell your talking about, the people that think floyd will win are the people that actually know boxing, it's the main stream fans that think pacquiao will win, you mention floyd fighting guys at the end of their careers, manny has done this even more, did you forget , morales, barrera, ledwaba, de la hoya, mosley, hatton, take the same critisism that you have for floyd and point it towards pacquiao, in life people always side with the good guy,(manny) and go against the bad guy (floyd) as clearly you are doing.  floyd will give manny fits with his boxing skills, add to the fact that physically floyd will be stronger, he is obviously smarter, better defensively, a better inside fighter, pacquiao will have advantages in combanation punching and a slight advantage in power, as for speed, right now I think floyd has slowed a great deal over the last couple of years so manny will get the nod in my book,   but it goes back to floyds boxing ability and his ring intelligence, floyd is the master of anticipation and manny is not hard to figure out, he comes straight forward and lets his fast hands go, most of his opponents are simply not fast enough to get out of the way, this is not the case with floyd, manny is a guy that leaves himself open when getting into punching range and this will be the difference in the fight, I used to say that this was a mis match, but as everyone saw on saturday, floyd has lost a step, so the fight will be more competative, with adding more muscle to his frame combined with his age he is not the fighter he once was, physically manny right now is great (marquez just has his ticket) so this one will be a closer fight than it would of been a couple years ago or even 1 year ago for that matter,having said that I still like floyd to use his great boxing skills and catch manny coming in all night long, floyd will win a dec. 117-111 type of thing. manny's only chance to win is by ko, but floyds defence, jab and intelligence will simply not allow for this to happen,   manny has problems with marquez's boxings skills, floyds is bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, better defensively, harder puncher than marquez, BOXERS give pacquiao problems, and in terms of boxing skills from 140 to 154 even past his best floyd still reigns supreme and just for the record I do not like floyd, but in handy capping fights like or dislike has nothing to do with it