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    Margarito v Williams

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    nashvegas
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2007 - 10:46 PM ET #1

    I really like Paul here. The odds at the greek are +130. Do you think it will go up or down? Paul claims to have beaten up Antonio pretty good in a sparring match a few years back. No way this goes the distance, so i also like under 11.5 (-105) Opinions?
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    I really like Paul here. The odds at the greek are +130. Do you think it will go up or down? Paul claims to have beaten up Antonio pretty good in a sparring match a few years back. No way this goes the distance, so i also like under 11.5 (-105) Opinions?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2007 - 11:44 PM ET #2

    Love the Punisher in this one
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    Love the Punisher in this one
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2007 - 10:58 PM ET #3

    I'd like the LOW b4 I'd like a side here. AM has a major Experience edge, the longer this one goes, the more that could come into play. Though, to his major cred, P.Dub seems to be able to Punch all nite.

    GLA!
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    I'd like the LOW b4 I'd like a side here. AM has a major Experience edge, the longer this one goes, the more that could come into play. Though, to his major cred, P.Dub seems to be able to Punch all nite.

    GLA!
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2007 - 9:42 AM ET #4

    cant wait for this one.. g oing to attend this one... carson center like20 mins away 

    i love the punisher... hes gonna be great.
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    cant wait for this one.. g oing to attend this one... carson center like20 mins away 

    i love the punisher... hes gonna be great.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2007 - 2:27 AM ET #5

    man im excited as hell for this fight... this should be a great one 
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    man im excited as hell for this fight... this should be a great one 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2007 - 12:26 AM ET #6

    F.B. what your call on this?Im loving the P Dub.I know its early but
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    F.B. what your call on this?Im loving the P Dub.I know its early but
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2007 - 12:49 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    F.B. what your call on this?Im loving the P Dub.I know its early but



    Right now I am leaning to Margarito, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.  He will pressure the Punisher all night long and I am not sold on Paul's ability to fight going backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    F.B. what your call on this?Im loving the P Dub.I know its early but



    Right now I am leaning to Margarito, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.  He will pressure the Punisher all night long and I am not sold on Paul's ability to fight going backwards.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 3:58 AM ET #8

    Where is BOXEO? Need your picks
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    Where is BOXEO? Need your picks
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 9:55 AM ET #9

    Hey Guys,

     

    Hope everyone will get to enjoy the fights this weekend. We have the long in the tooth, Arturo Gatti, taking on the Contender Gomez. I have to say right off the bat that I am not a fan of Gatti's skills (love his blood and guts) and think he has been very overrated for his entire career. He appears to be very shop worn, but in truth, he always appears that way! The difference is now he is not landing the come from behind power left hook that takes him from defeat to a win. With all of that said, I like Gomez even less then Gatti at this point. Gomez has fought bums, and struggled with Feliciano, whom I think is a step below Gatti. Gatti has a huge experience edge and if you are backing Gatti the ten round limit is a blessing.  
     
    BOXEO BETS: Gatti -180
     

    We also have the much-anticipated Magarito/Wiliams fight. This could turn out to be a barnburner. Williams is a freak of nature for this weight and has showed solid skills in all of his bouts. Margarito has been around for a while, and showed some wear and tear against JC in his last fight. In fact, if JC had not hurt his hands, he would have been crowned the new champion.

     

    Now, a defeat to JC is nothing to be embarrassed about, JC is a very good fighter, but Margarito took a ton of shots in that fight and Williams is much faster the JC and throws a lot of punches. This is probably a simple case of Margarito being forced to get through a series of combinations in the hopes of getting to the ample body of Williams, trying to break him down. If Williams can take just a small step back as Margarito comes forward he should be able to pick him apart all night long. Margarito has a decent beard, but he is very prone to cuts. If Williams cannot drop him with a series of shots, he may still stop him with a slice on the eye.

     

    I feel Williams should be able to use his huge physical advantages (southpaw too) to keep the plodding Margarito at bay.

     

    BOXEO Bets: Williams -115
     

     

    Also, the former king of the ring Roy Jones Jr. is back in action against Hanshaw. We all know RJJ is faded and a shell of his former self, but I think this is a pretty decent spot for Roy to shine. Hanshaw is moving up in weight and had trouble making the 175-pound limit! I never like when a fighter is moving up in weight and has trouble making his new weight class limit. Hanshaw has also fought a slew of nobody's. The halfway decent guys he has fought… he has gone the distance with! I like RJJ to shine in this fight and basically just put a whoopin' on him (see his bout with the prince)

     

    BOXEO Bets: RJJ -220
     
    Just a side note, I think a small wager on WM against Cintron might be worth it. Cintron showed zero heart with Margarito and if WM can hit and hurt Cintron, you never know if he will fold again. WM has fought nobody (Williams is the best fighter he has faced) but he does have power and with Cintron that might just be enough!
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    Hey Guys,

     

    Hope everyone will get to enjoy the fights this weekend. We have the long in the tooth, Arturo Gatti, taking on the Contender Gomez. I have to say right off the bat that I am not a fan of Gatti's skills (love his blood and guts) and think he has been very overrated for his entire career. He appears to be very shop worn, but in truth, he always appears that way! The difference is now he is not landing the come from behind power left hook that takes him from defeat to a win. With all of that said, I like Gomez even less then Gatti at this point. Gomez has fought bums, and struggled with Feliciano, whom I think is a step below Gatti. Gatti has a huge experience edge and if you are backing Gatti the ten round limit is a blessing.  
     
    BOXEO BETS: Gatti -180
     

    We also have the much-anticipated Magarito/Wiliams fight. This could turn out to be a barnburner. Williams is a freak of nature for this weight and has showed solid skills in all of his bouts. Margarito has been around for a while, and showed some wear and tear against JC in his last fight. In fact, if JC had not hurt his hands, he would have been crowned the new champion.

     

    Now, a defeat to JC is nothing to be embarrassed about, JC is a very good fighter, but Margarito took a ton of shots in that fight and Williams is much faster the JC and throws a lot of punches. This is probably a simple case of Margarito being forced to get through a series of combinations in the hopes of getting to the ample body of Williams, trying to break him down. If Williams can take just a small step back as Margarito comes forward he should be able to pick him apart all night long. Margarito has a decent beard, but he is very prone to cuts. If Williams cannot drop him with a series of shots, he may still stop him with a slice on the eye.

     

    I feel Williams should be able to use his huge physical advantages (southpaw too) to keep the plodding Margarito at bay.

     

    BOXEO Bets: Williams -115
     

     

    Also, the former king of the ring Roy Jones Jr. is back in action against Hanshaw. We all know RJJ is faded and a shell of his former self, but I think this is a pretty decent spot for Roy to shine. Hanshaw is moving up in weight and had trouble making the 175-pound limit! I never like when a fighter is moving up in weight and has trouble making his new weight class limit. Hanshaw has also fought a slew of nobody's. The halfway decent guys he has fought… he has gone the distance with! I like RJJ to shine in this fight and basically just put a whoopin' on him (see his bout with the prince)

     

    BOXEO Bets: RJJ -220
     
    Just a side note, I think a small wager on WM against Cintron might be worth it. Cintron showed zero heart with Margarito and if WM can hit and hurt Cintron, you never know if he will fold again. WM has fought nobody (Williams is the best fighter he has faced) but he does have power and with Cintron that might just be enough!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 12:50 PM ET #10

    Boxe thanks for the picks,and how strong do u feel about these plays?
     
     
    can u give me your % of confidence on each play?
     
     
    if so thank you so much,your the man! Appreciate it very much
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    Boxe thanks for the picks,and how strong do u feel about these plays?
     
     
    can u give me your % of confidence on each play?
     
     
    if so thank you so much,your the man! Appreciate it very much
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 12:51 PM ET #11

    Boxeo*
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    Boxeo*
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 2:42 PM ET #12

    The more I think about this fight the more I lean towards Williams. Williams will use his punch output, reach, youth to win a decision over Margarito. The winner supposedly gets to fight MIguel Cotto and Margarito vs. Cotto would bea  BIG fight (mexico vs. puerto rico. But I think Williams will end up being victorious and it will be his undefeated record vs Cotto's. BOL everyone

    Williams by Decision
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    The more I think about this fight the more I lean towards Williams. Williams will use his punch output, reach, youth to win a decision over Margarito. The winner supposedly gets to fight MIguel Cotto and Margarito vs. Cotto would bea  BIG fight (mexico vs. puerto rico. But I think Williams will end up being victorious and it will be his undefeated record vs Cotto's. BOL everyone

    Williams by Decision
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 5:47 PM ET #13

    yes boxeo tell us how many units you are putting on each pick. seems to be some late action against roy jones. hope thats not the sharps.
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    yes boxeo tell us how many units you are putting on each pick. seems to be some late action against roy jones. hope thats not the sharps.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 8:11 PM ET #14

    I am playing Williams tonight.  I think I have noticed a pretty significant loss of speed by Margarito from his Lewis fight to the Gomez fight.  Gomez was actually landing some good shots but couldn't trade with Margarito.  I think Williams will land, and land often.
     
    This is a fight that is easy to know what each fighter brings, but not necessarily easy to predict the outcome.  Bottom line is, if Williams can be effective from the outside early and take some steam out of Margarito, he should cruise to an easy win.  If Margarito is able to be an effective counter-puncher, which is hard to imagine considering the size/southpaw issues, he likely will win by KO.
     
    I think Williams takes this fight, but I am no way confident about it.
     
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    I am playing Williams tonight.  I think I have noticed a pretty significant loss of speed by Margarito from his Lewis fight to the Gomez fight.  Gomez was actually landing some good shots but couldn't trade with Margarito.  I think Williams will land, and land often.
     
    This is a fight that is easy to know what each fighter brings, but not necessarily easy to predict the outcome.  Bottom line is, if Williams can be effective from the outside early and take some steam out of Margarito, he should cruise to an easy win.  If Margarito is able to be an effective counter-puncher, which is hard to imagine considering the size/southpaw issues, he likely will win by KO.
     
    I think Williams takes this fight, but I am no way confident about it.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 8:19 PM ET #15

    BOXEO how sure are you about the Williams bet??? Level of confidence?
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    BOXEO how sure are you about the Williams bet??? Level of confidence?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 8:24 PM ET #16

    Since when did Boxeo become Nostradamus of boxing?
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    Since when did Boxeo become Nostradamus of boxing?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 8:25 PM ET #17

    No slight to Boxeo, but no one is "sure" about this stuff.
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    No slight to Boxeo, but no one is "sure" about this stuff.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 8:25 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    Since when did Boxeo become Nostradamus of boxing?
     
     
    followed him for a very long time and from what ive seen hit about 80% of his plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    Since when did Boxeo become Nostradamus of boxing?
     
     
    followed him for a very long time and from what ive seen hit about 80% of his plays.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 11:46 PM ET #19

    I had it 116-112, but I'll take it.
     
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    I had it 116-112, but I'll take it.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 11:54 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    followed him for a very long time and from what ive seen hit about 80% of his plays.
     
    Hey Ona,
     
    We missed on the Gomez fight, but Williams comes through with a gritty performance. Margarito proved very tough late in the fight, but Williams showed that he could hang with a vet like Margarito when the going gets tough! I would gladly watch him against any of the other 147 pounders. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    followed him for a very long time and from what ive seen hit about 80% of his plays.
     
    Hey Ona,
     
    We missed on the Gomez fight, but Williams comes through with a gritty performance. Margarito proved very tough late in the fight, but Williams showed that he could hang with a vet like Margarito when the going gets tough! I would gladly watch him against any of the other 147 pounders. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 11:55 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I had it 116-112, but I'll take it.
     
     
    Nice pick Always. I had it 8-4 Williams, but at least the right man won!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I had it 116-112, but I'll take it.
     
     
    Nice pick Always. I had it 8-4 Williams, but at least the right man won!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2007 - 11:58 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     
    Nice pick Always. I had it 8-4 Williams, but at least the right man won!
     
     
    Goodjob Boxeo and thanks for the picks,cant believe Gatti lost againt Gomez lol wow
     
    Lets get the Hopkins/Wright fight next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     
    Nice pick Always. I had it 8-4 Williams, but at least the right man won!
     
     
    Goodjob Boxeo and thanks for the picks,cant believe Gatti lost againt Gomez lol wow
     
    Lets get the Hopkins/Wright fight next week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2007 - 12:04 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    Goodjob Boxeo and thanks for the picks,cant believe Gatti lost againt Gomez lol wow
     
    Lets get the Hopkins/Wright fight next week.
     
    Congrats Ona,
     
    Glad to see you were on Jones and Williams! Hopefully we (the entire board) can get this thing cracking and increase all of our earnings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    Goodjob Boxeo and thanks for the picks,cant believe Gatti lost againt Gomez lol wow
     
    Lets get the Hopkins/Wright fight next week.
     
    Congrats Ona,
     
    Glad to see you were on Jones and Williams! Hopefully we (the entire board) can get this thing cracking and increase all of our earnings!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2007 - 12:06 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     
    Congrats Ona,
     
    Glad to see you were on Jones and Williams! Hopefully we (the entire board) can get this thing cracking and increase all of our earnings!
     
     
    Exactly,if we would all work together and help eachother out we can really make more profits.
     
    Im looking at Wright by decison,what you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     
    Congrats Ona,
     
    Glad to see you were on Jones and Williams! Hopefully we (the entire board) can get this thing cracking and increase all of our earnings!
     
     
    Exactly,if we would all work together and help eachother out we can really make more profits.
     
    Im looking at Wright by decison,what you think?
     
     
    BOXEO
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2007 - 12:08 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    Exactly,if we would all work together and help eachother out we can really make more profits.
     
    Im looking at Wright by decison,what you think?
     

    Leaning towards Wright at this moment, but will wait until later to make my official pick. In fact, I always post my picks very late (most of the time day of.) 

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnaMission:

     
     
    Exactly,if we would all work together and help eachother out we can really make more profits.
     
    Im looking at Wright by decison,what you think?
     

    Leaning towards Wright at this moment, but will wait until later to make my official pick. In fact, I always post my picks very late (most of the time day of.) 

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