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    Manny Pacquiao has no shot beating @ Antonio Margarito

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    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 6:14 PM ET #1

    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 8:17 PM ET #2

    Sweet thread bro-seph.
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    Sweet thread bro-seph.
     
    rzagza
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 9:18 PM ET #3

    Go away, idiot.
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    Go away, idiot.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #4

    This guy is from  Jersey, Mexico.
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    This guy is from  Jersey, Mexico.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2010 - 10:57 PM ET #5

    Hilarious.  I agree, if you reverse Pacquiao and Margarito in your thread title.
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    Hilarious.  I agree, if you reverse Pacquiao and Margarito in your thread title.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 2:19 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    Hilarious.  I agree, if you reverse Pacquiao and Margarito in your thread title.


    How's Pacquiao going to win?  Let me guess, speed & angles. LMAO. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    Hilarious.  I agree, if you reverse Pacquiao and Margarito in your thread title.


    How's Pacquiao going to win?  Let me guess, speed & angles. LMAO. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 6:24 AM ET #7

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 1:02 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 
        are you crazy man, pacquiao is the best offensive fighter in the world, most likely has the fastest hands, and has nice power, margarito is a slow plodding fighter, who comes straight forward with his only defence being his offence, this fight should be called hitting the heavy bag, manny will beat the hell out of this man, if you think that margarito had problems with mosley's speed just imagine what pacquiao will do.margarito is far too slow to even compete with one of the fastest fighters of all time, It is true that manny is not 100 percent focused for this one, but 80 percent of pacquiao still easily wins, I see pacquiao by ko around the 8 or 9 th round in a mismatch..         for the record I am not a pacquiao fan, but you gotta call em like you see them and this is a mismatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 
        are you crazy man, pacquiao is the best offensive fighter in the world, most likely has the fastest hands, and has nice power, margarito is a slow plodding fighter, who comes straight forward with his only defence being his offence, this fight should be called hitting the heavy bag, manny will beat the hell out of this man, if you think that margarito had problems with mosley's speed just imagine what pacquiao will do.margarito is far too slow to even compete with one of the fastest fighters of all time, It is true that manny is not 100 percent focused for this one, but 80 percent of pacquiao still easily wins, I see pacquiao by ko around the 8 or 9 th round in a mismatch..         for the record I am not a pacquiao fan, but you gotta call em like you see them and this is a mismatch
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 1:26 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

        are you crazy man, pacquiao is the best offensive fighter in the world, most likely has the fastest hands, and has nice power, margarito is a slow plodding fighter, who comes straight forward with his only defence being his offence, this fight should be called hitting the heavy bag, manny will beat the hell out of this man, if you think that margarito had problems with mosley's speed just imagine what pacquiao will do.margarito is far too slow to even compete with one of the fastest fighters of all time, It is true that manny is not 100 percent focused for this one, but 80 percent of pacquiao still easily wins, I see pacquiao by ko around the 8 or 9 th round in a mismatch..         for the record I am not a pacquiao fan, but you gotta call em like you see them and this is a mismatch


    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.  Speed can be neutralized and Pacquiao can't fight backing up. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

        are you crazy man, pacquiao is the best offensive fighter in the world, most likely has the fastest hands, and has nice power, margarito is a slow plodding fighter, who comes straight forward with his only defence being his offence, this fight should be called hitting the heavy bag, manny will beat the hell out of this man, if you think that margarito had problems with mosley's speed just imagine what pacquiao will do.margarito is far too slow to even compete with one of the fastest fighters of all time, It is true that manny is not 100 percent focused for this one, but 80 percent of pacquiao still easily wins, I see pacquiao by ko around the 8 or 9 th round in a mismatch..         for the record I am not a pacquiao fan, but you gotta call em like you see them and this is a mismatch


    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.  Speed can be neutralized and Pacquiao can't fight backing up. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 1:49 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.

    Didn't Richard Steele stop him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.

    Didn't Richard Steele stop him?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 2:47 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Didn't Richard Steele stop him?


    What?  Taylor was badly beaten in that fight, it wasn't just one round.  Just like how people think Cotto was "dominating" the first fight of the Margarito fight.  Margarito was punishing Cotto the WHOLE fight. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Didn't Richard Steele stop him?


    What?  Taylor was badly beaten in that fight, it wasn't just one round.  Just like how people think Cotto was "dominating" the first fight of the Margarito fight.  Margarito was punishing Cotto the WHOLE fight. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 5:05 PM ET #12

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.

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    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 5:42 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



      Good post. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



      Good post. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2010 - 10:51 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



    What a clown.  Clottey didn't give Margarito life or death.  Margarito made Clottey mentally submit.  That was also a prime Clottey, not some one fight a year Clottey Pacquiao fought.  Margarito beat the dog shit out of Clottey and he was piss scared to throw punches. 

    As for Mosley.  Why does it matter?  Ignore that fight.  Margarito weight problems for that fight were well-documented.  Also, Shane Mosley was very likely to be on PED.  Styles make fight and you are a fool if you use the triangle theory in boxing. 

    Cotto putting on a boxing clinic on Margarito?  Are you blind?  The rounds Margarito lost in the first half of the fight he was landing devastating punches himself. 

    Also, why are you mentioning Paul Williams?  Paul Williams would beat the dog shit out of Manny Pacquiao, so what's your point? 

    Margarito has beat better competition and faced better comp.  DLH ducked Margarito, Margarito annihalted a prime Cotto, Margarito would maul Hatton, and already beat CLottey. 


    Keep dreamin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



    What a clown.  Clottey didn't give Margarito life or death.  Margarito made Clottey mentally submit.  That was also a prime Clottey, not some one fight a year Clottey Pacquiao fought.  Margarito beat the dog shit out of Clottey and he was piss scared to throw punches. 

    As for Mosley.  Why does it matter?  Ignore that fight.  Margarito weight problems for that fight were well-documented.  Also, Shane Mosley was very likely to be on PED.  Styles make fight and you are a fool if you use the triangle theory in boxing. 

    Cotto putting on a boxing clinic on Margarito?  Are you blind?  The rounds Margarito lost in the first half of the fight he was landing devastating punches himself. 

    Also, why are you mentioning Paul Williams?  Paul Williams would beat the dog shit out of Manny Pacquiao, so what's your point? 

    Margarito has beat better competition and faced better comp.  DLH ducked Margarito, Margarito annihalted a prime Cotto, Margarito would maul Hatton, and already beat CLottey. 


    Keep dreamin'.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 1:50 AM ET #15

    Obviously a Margarito fan who's in for a bigtime cash.

    But dont worry everyone's entitled to his own opinion. And hey vegas loves you!
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    Obviously a Margarito fan who's in for a bigtime cash.

    But dont worry everyone's entitled to his own opinion. And hey vegas loves you!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennyman:

    Obviously a Margarito fan who's in for a bigtime cash.

    But dont worry everyone's entitled to his own opinion. And hey vegas loves you!


    huh? I've already structured my bet with a Pacquiao decision which is the only way he can win.  In fact, it's structured so I win money regardless unless Pac wins by KO - which won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennyman:

    Obviously a Margarito fan who's in for a bigtime cash.

    But dont worry everyone's entitled to his own opinion. And hey vegas loves you!


    huh? I've already structured my bet with a Pacquiao decision which is the only way he can win.  In fact, it's structured so I win money regardless unless Pac wins by KO - which won't happen.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 5:21 PM ET #17

    Hard to go against Manny at this point. 
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    Hard to go against Manny at this point. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 6:48 PM ET #18

    the original poster is on drugs, anyhow, there is another distraction for pacman but he's still gona win

    https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5781043
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    the original poster is on drugs, anyhow, there is another distraction for pacman but he's still gona win

    https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5781043
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 9:46 PM ET #19

    don't feed the trolls.

    ps- Pac can win very easily in the championship rounds via Margacheato corner stoppage and you'll lose all your bets, DUH
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    don't feed the trolls.

    ps- Pac can win very easily in the championship rounds via Margacheato corner stoppage and you'll lose all your bets, DUH
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 9:58 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



    LOL @ Mosley's power not "even close to being on Manny's level". 

    Pacquiao doesn't have near the one punch power that Mosley has.

    This shit will be a walk in the park for Manny, sure.  But in terms of power... Mosley > Manny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CashSeason:

    What I find hilarious is that Clottey gave a prime, pre-shot Margarito life and death...he couldn't even win a round vs Manny.  Shane Mosley, the same shot fighter that was horrible vs Floyd and Sergio Mora, absolutely crushed Margarito with hand speed.  Mediocre hand speed and power that isn't even close to being on Manny's level.  Before fading like he always does, Cotto was putting a boxing clinic on Margarito.  A green Paul Williams boxed Margarito's ears off EASILY taking the first 6 rounds along with 3 in the last 6.  Now he would KO Margarito inside 6. Margarito is SHOT.  Manny will destroy him.



    LOL @ Mosley's power not "even close to being on Manny's level". 

    Pacquiao doesn't have near the one punch power that Mosley has.

    This shit will be a walk in the park for Manny, sure.  But in terms of power... Mosley > Manny.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #21

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 3:06 AM ET #22

    Wait, are you the same dude who said Oscar was going to destroy Manny with his power and size?
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    Wait, are you the same dude who said Oscar was going to destroy Manny with his power and size?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 2:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.  Speed can be neutralized and Pacquiao can't fight backing up. 
      did you just compair margarito to chavez, don't do that man, chavez is an all time great and margarito is a B level fighter. It is true that speed can be neutralized, by either using your jab or intelligent head movement, margarito does not do either of these things well, you can not neutralize speed by simlpy coming straight forward looking to through bombs, which is the way margarito fights, that's the opposite of what you do against a fighter like pacquiao who not only has speed but power too. like I said before......  mismatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    question, Meldrick Taylor is just as fast as Pacquiao and a slower JCC stopped him.  Speed can be neutralized and Pacquiao can't fight backing up. 
      did you just compair margarito to chavez, don't do that man, chavez is an all time great and margarito is a B level fighter. It is true that speed can be neutralized, by either using your jab or intelligent head movement, margarito does not do either of these things well, you can not neutralize speed by simlpy coming straight forward looking to through bombs, which is the way margarito fights, that's the opposite of what you do against a fighter like pacquiao who not only has speed but power too. like I said before......  mismatch
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 10:16 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

      did you just compair margarito to chavez, don't do that man, chavez is an all time great and margarito is a B level fighter. It is true that speed can be neutralized, by either using your jab or intelligent head movement, margarito does not do either of these things well, you can not neutralize speed by simlpy coming straight forward looking to through bombs, which is the way margarito fights, that's the opposite of what you do against a fighter like pacquiao who not only has speed but power too. like I said before......  mismatch


    Can you read? When did I compare the fighters?  I said speed can be naturalized.  Margarito has done it before and will do it Saturday night. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

      did you just compair margarito to chavez, don't do that man, chavez is an all time great and margarito is a B level fighter. It is true that speed can be neutralized, by either using your jab or intelligent head movement, margarito does not do either of these things well, you can not neutralize speed by simlpy coming straight forward looking to through bombs, which is the way margarito fights, that's the opposite of what you do against a fighter like pacquiao who not only has speed but power too. like I said before......  mismatch


    Can you read? When did I compare the fighters?  I said speed can be naturalized.  Margarito has done it before and will do it Saturday night. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 11:12 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 


    the old version of Margarito would be a difficult match for Pacquiao...but now he has no plaster jk. ACtually Margarito has taken too much punishment from Cotto/Mosley and he definitely is no the same fighter he once was. Don't be fooled by the 24/7 show...Margarito is finished as a top fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    Just looking at the styles, this fight is a mismatch.  I believe Margarito will stop him between rounds 5-8.  Pacquiao cant fight off his back foot and won't be able handle Margarito power/size and pressure.  I'm predicting a corner stoppage.  The way you want to structure your bet is straddle Margarito by KO +500 with Pacquiao by decision +300 or the over @ 9 1/2 + 140. 

    Thank me after the fight. 


    the old version of Margarito would be a difficult match for Pacquiao...but now he has no plaster jk. ACtually Margarito has taken too much punishment from Cotto/Mosley and he definitely is no the same fighter he once was. Don't be fooled by the 24/7 show...Margarito is finished as a top fighter
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