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    Manny Pacquiao -700 vs Joshua Clottey

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    DannoDanger
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 6:22 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    I guess, if you think he has a shot to win.  People who think he has no shot (like me), wouldn't think +600 is too GREAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    I guess, if you think he has a shot to win.  People who think he has no shot (like me), wouldn't think +600 is too GREAT.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 1:25 PM ET #27

    I don't think Clottey is great value..There is a reason he is +600
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    I don't think Clottey is great value..There is a reason he is +600
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 10:13 PM ET #28

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    PAC MAN 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 10:36 PM ET #29

    Pac is a huge Fav mainly because the public will and have obviously sided with him. if you know Boxing, then you know Clottey has a fighting chance. He is a very determined hard core boxer. Pac-Man is not unbeatable, by far. Personally i will be just enjoying this one.
    If you really feel the need to place a wager on it, play $10 on Clottey and hope for a upset. If he wins your wife wont bitch about that $50 dollar pay-per view charge on next months bill.
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    Pac is a huge Fav mainly because the public will and have obviously sided with him. if you know Boxing, then you know Clottey has a fighting chance. He is a very determined hard core boxer. Pac-Man is not unbeatable, by far. Personally i will be just enjoying this one.
    If you really feel the need to place a wager on it, play $10 on Clottey and hope for a upset. If he wins your wife wont bitch about that $50 dollar pay-per view charge on next months bill.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 11:03 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by HellofACapper:

    Pac is a huge Fav mainly because the public will and have obviously sided with him.

    Yeah.  It has nothing to do with the fact that he's the best fighter in the world right now.  It's because 'the public' is in love with his singing.  If Manny wasn't a fan favorite, this fight would be a pick'em. 

     

    In other news, Gomez is -300 and Soto is -400.  Great undercard Arum. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellofACapper:

    Pac is a huge Fav mainly because the public will and have obviously sided with him.

    Yeah.  It has nothing to do with the fact that he's the best fighter in the world right now.  It's because 'the public' is in love with his singing.  If Manny wasn't a fan favorite, this fight would be a pick'em. 

     

    In other news, Gomez is -300 and Soto is -400.  Great undercard Arum. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 11:16 PM ET #31

    Yeah.  It has nothing to do with the fact that he's the best fighter in the world right now.  It's because 'the public' is in love with his singing.  If Manny wasn't a fan favorite, this fight would be a pick'em. 

     He has a great voice, that the real reason. Actually Money is the best right now. -600 is not a great investment. Do what you think is best.

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    Yeah.  It has nothing to do with the fact that he's the best fighter in the world right now.  It's because 'the public' is in love with his singing.  If Manny wasn't a fan favorite, this fight would be a pick'em. 

     He has a great voice, that the real reason. Actually Money is the best right now. -600 is not a great investment. Do what you think is best.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2010 - 11:50 PM ET #32

    i agree, boxing mls depend heavily on the public's perception of who'll win. not necessary who is the underdog. boxing is one sport where even the non sport bettors will tend to bet on.

    and they mostly will base their decisions on name familiarity/ popularity.

    i agree. just bet 10 bucks on clottey and have clottey pay for your 6 pack and ppv bill. LoL.
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    i agree, boxing mls depend heavily on the public's perception of who'll win. not necessary who is the underdog. boxing is one sport where even the non sport bettors will tend to bet on.

    and they mostly will base their decisions on name familiarity/ popularity.

    i agree. just bet 10 bucks on clottey and have clottey pay for your 6 pack and ppv bill. LoL.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 12:06 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by beerhandbop:

    i agree, boxing mls depend heavily on the public's perception of who'll win. not necessary who is the underdog. boxing is one sport where even the non sport bettors will tend to bet on.

    and they mostly will base their decisions on name familiarity/ popularity.

    i agree. just bet 10 bucks on clottey and have clottey pay for your 6 pack and ppv bill. LoL.




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    Quote Originally Posted by beerhandbop:

    i agree, boxing mls depend heavily on the public's perception of who'll win. not necessary who is the underdog. boxing is one sport where even the non sport bettors will tend to bet on.

    and they mostly will base their decisions on name familiarity/ popularity.

    i agree. just bet 10 bucks on clottey and have clottey pay for your 6 pack and ppv bill. LoL.




     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 12:09 AM ET #34

    -700 was the line in my book (bet365)

    got Manny at -600 (super7casino)

    Also placed this bet:
    Manny Pacquiao by KO, TKO or Disqualification -138


    I'm thinking of playing the under in this game but only because I see good value on it. +135 is nice right?

    UNDER 9.5 +135
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    -700 was the line in my book (bet365)

    got Manny at -600 (super7casino)

    Also placed this bet:
    Manny Pacquiao by KO, TKO or Disqualification -138


    I'm thinking of playing the under in this game but only because I see good value on it. +135 is nice right?

    UNDER 9.5 +135
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 1:49 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    Clottey going to get his shit pushed in. beatup
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    Clottey going to get his shit pushed in. beatup
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 6:31 AM ET #36

    too much juice on -700 maybe i'll just bet on pacman by KO, TKO, DQ at -110
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    too much juice on -700 maybe i'll just bet on pacman by KO, TKO, DQ at -110
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 12:19 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Clottey going to get his shit pushed in. beatup



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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Clottey going to get his shit pushed in. beatup



     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2010 - 6:07 PM ET #38

    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 


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    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2010 - 6:24 PM ET #39

    Looking like best buddies at the weigh in
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    Looking like best buddies at the weigh in
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2010 - 9:13 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by icemantbi:

    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 



    clottey will probably look like cotto after some manny punishment, he's never been stopped though so manny will have to be on top form again to drop him
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    Quote Originally Posted by icemantbi:

    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 



    clottey will probably look like cotto after some manny punishment, he's never been stopped though so manny will have to be on top form again to drop him
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2010 - 9:15 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by icemantbi:

    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 




    -118 on 5dimes :-)

    I don't see where Manny took a beating from Cotto for ANY amount of time, yes Cotto was doing OKAY for 4 rounds but his punches had NO impact.

    Clottey is a "straight ahead" boxer, unlike Morales, Marquez he doesn't circle his man he stands straight in front of you.

    It's why Pacman won't fight Mosley/Mayweather they have "angles" and don't give you a clear shot like all these guys do.

    Diaz,Hatton,Cotto.. not a lick of defense, aggressive fighters who "come at you in a straight line" ready to eat the left hand.

    Clottey has millions of reasons to lay down for this fight, it's why he was brought here. He wasn't not here to WIN.

    Freddie Roach will not accept fights that give Pac-man trouble (basically any pure technical boxer).

    Doesn't it seem odd the fight is about 8-1 yet they make the KO almost even money?

    I'm staying away from this fight, it reeks of ripoff as  does the under card.

    I think the only person here who commented on how bad the under card is was DannoDanger.

     I mean Clottey is NO Mosley/Mayweather.. give people a decent under card.. seriously could have they put any worse?

    David Diaz and Castillo... and Duddy.. (that one may be okay regardless of the opponent  because Duddy is a human punching.

    For people who THINK Clottey is a great deal,  realize here's 8-1 for a reason... so  bet small if you do.

    The people on Pac-man good luck on your PROP bets, because we know not many are laying 8-1.

    Also look how GAUNT Clottey looked, let's hope he can put on his usual 20 pounds before the fight.

    Either way you bet, enjoy the fight!
                       
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    Quote Originally Posted by icemantbi:

    Pac-Man to win by KO, TKO or DQ at -127 (Pinnacle Line) is the best bet here.  This is a BAD matchup for Clottley, he won't be able to handle Pac-Man's unorthodox fighting style.  Pac-Man will run circles around him in the ring and catch him on angles.  Pac-Man is a machine, he will pop Clottley so fast he won't be able to know what hit him.  Clottley needs to set up his punches, he's much slower than pac-man.  One thing Clottley does have is he can take a beating, but so can Pac-Man as witnessed in the Cotto fight, where Pac-Man took some heavy shots and came out unscathed.

    Also, Clottley tends to be a bit of a dirty fighter, watch for some headbutts in the later rounds from Clottley as he gets frustrated.  No way does this go to the final bell, Clottley will get worn down, this ends somewhere between the 9th or 11th round. 




    -118 on 5dimes :-)

    I don't see where Manny took a beating from Cotto for ANY amount of time, yes Cotto was doing OKAY for 4 rounds but his punches had NO impact.

    Clottey is a "straight ahead" boxer, unlike Morales, Marquez he doesn't circle his man he stands straight in front of you.

    It's why Pacman won't fight Mosley/Mayweather they have "angles" and don't give you a clear shot like all these guys do.

    Diaz,Hatton,Cotto.. not a lick of defense, aggressive fighters who "come at you in a straight line" ready to eat the left hand.

    Clottey has millions of reasons to lay down for this fight, it's why he was brought here. He wasn't not here to WIN.

    Freddie Roach will not accept fights that give Pac-man trouble (basically any pure technical boxer).

    Doesn't it seem odd the fight is about 8-1 yet they make the KO almost even money?

    I'm staying away from this fight, it reeks of ripoff as  does the under card.

    I think the only person here who commented on how bad the under card is was DannoDanger.

     I mean Clottey is NO Mosley/Mayweather.. give people a decent under card.. seriously could have they put any worse?

    David Diaz and Castillo... and Duddy.. (that one may be okay regardless of the opponent  because Duddy is a human punching.

    For people who THINK Clottey is a great deal,  realize here's 8-1 for a reason... so  bet small if you do.

    The people on Pac-man good luck on your PROP bets, because we know not many are laying 8-1.

    Also look how GAUNT Clottey looked, let's hope he can put on his usual 20 pounds before the fight.

    Either way you bet, enjoy the fight!
                       
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2010 - 9:34 PM ET #42

    This has nothing to do with anything, but I love Bert Sugar.  Talking about Clottey:

    "Add to that that he's from Ghana, which has given us such fighters as Azumah Nelson, Ike Quartey, each of whom is so tough that if he was struck by lightning, you take the lightning to the hospital for observation."

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    This has nothing to do with anything, but I love Bert Sugar.  Talking about Clottey:

    "Add to that that he's from Ghana, which has given us such fighters as Azumah Nelson, Ike Quartey, each of whom is so tough that if he was struck by lightning, you take the lightning to the hospital for observation."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 1:32 AM ET #43

    I'm liking Pacquiao by UD at +150. Clottey has that peekaboo defense so I think he'll last the distance. I'm also thinking about playing no KDs or KOs at +250. Clottey doesn't pose a threat to win, but I think he's durable enough to last the distance.
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    I'm liking Pacquiao by UD at +150. Clottey has that peekaboo defense so I think he'll last the distance. I'm also thinking about playing no KDs or KOs at +250. Clottey doesn't pose a threat to win, but I think he's durable enough to last the distance.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 1:32 AM ET #44

    UD should just read decision.
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    UD should just read decision.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 2:29 AM ET #45

    id take clottey for the value...
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    id take clottey for the value...
     
    thebestpicks
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 6:43 AM ET #46

    I went for Pacman via decision .... 1k:1k
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    I went for Pacman via decision .... 1k:1k
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 6:45 AM ET #47

    Filipino pride on the line!



    how does betting in boxing works? sorry for this kind of question. really don't have any idea how it works. can you guys pls enlighten me? 
    TIA
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    Filipino pride on the line!



    how does betting in boxing works? sorry for this kind of question. really don't have any idea how it works. can you guys pls enlighten me? 
    TIA
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 3:18 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHenry30:





    peace handshakecheerseating popcornseeing moneymoneybagsmackingclap
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingHenry30:





    peace handshakecheerseating popcornseeing moneymoneybagsmackingclap
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 3:25 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    Value for what? I keep seeing this here all the time...great value, great value, blah blarg. Great value=loss. There is no "value" if you want to be a winner every week in boxing.

    Dogs lose 95% of the time. This year I'm keeping a log of all my caps. 1/1/11 I'll be posting them and thou shalt see how well dogs do...you'll be callin the amber lamps, cuz your kitty is leakin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSource2Win:

    Clottey is a GREAT value bet at +600.

    Value for what? I keep seeing this here all the time...great value, great value, blah blarg. Great value=loss. There is no "value" if you want to be a winner every week in boxing.

    Dogs lose 95% of the time. This year I'm keeping a log of all my caps. 1/1/11 I'll be posting them and thou shalt see how well dogs do...you'll be callin the amber lamps, cuz your kitty is leakin.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2010 - 4:36 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    -118 on 5dimes :-)

    I don't see where Manny took a beating from Cotto for ANY amount of time, yes Cotto was doing OKAY for 4 rounds but his punches had NO impact.

    Clottey is a "straight ahead" boxer, unlike Morales, Marquez he doesn't circle his man he stands straight in front of you.

    It's why Pacman won't fight Mosley/Mayweather they have "angles" and don't give you a clear shot like all these guys do.

    Diaz,Hatton,Cotto.. not a lick of defense, aggressive fighters who "come at you in a straight line" ready to eat the left hand.

    Clottey has millions of reasons to lay down for this fight, it's why he was brought here. He wasn't not here to WIN.

    Freddie Roach will not accept fights that give Pac-man trouble (basically any pure technical boxer).

    Doesn't it seem odd the fight is about 8-1 yet they make the KO almost even money?

    I'm staying away from this fight, it reeks of ripoff as  does the under card.

    I think the only person here who commented on how bad the under card is was DannoDanger.

     I mean Clottey is NO Mosley/Mayweather.. give people a decent under card.. seriously could have they put any worse?

    David Diaz and Castillo... and Duddy.. (that one may be okay regardless of the opponent  because Duddy is a human punching.

    For people who THINK Clottey is a great deal,  realize here's 8-1 for a reason... so  bet small if you do.

    The people on Pac-man good luck on your PROP bets, because we know not many are laying 8-1.

    Also look how GAUNT Clottey looked, let's hope he can put on his usual 20 pounds before the fight.

    Either way you bet, enjoy the fight!
                       

    All were excellent points and I agree w/ all

     

    I don't believe pac-man will ko Clottey only due to his physical abilities

    Also Danno Bert's the reason I got into boxing history and is a joy to watch or be around being from Vegas I've run into him at a couple of fights and around town...

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    -118 on 5dimes :-)

    I don't see where Manny took a beating from Cotto for ANY amount of time, yes Cotto was doing OKAY for 4 rounds but his punches had NO impact.

    Clottey is a "straight ahead" boxer, unlike Morales, Marquez he doesn't circle his man he stands straight in front of you.

    It's why Pacman won't fight Mosley/Mayweather they have "angles" and don't give you a clear shot like all these guys do.

    Diaz,Hatton,Cotto.. not a lick of defense, aggressive fighters who "come at you in a straight line" ready to eat the left hand.

    Clottey has millions of reasons to lay down for this fight, it's why he was brought here. He wasn't not here to WIN.

    Freddie Roach will not accept fights that give Pac-man trouble (basically any pure technical boxer).

    Doesn't it seem odd the fight is about 8-1 yet they make the KO almost even money?

    I'm staying away from this fight, it reeks of ripoff as  does the under card.

    I think the only person here who commented on how bad the under card is was DannoDanger.

     I mean Clottey is NO Mosley/Mayweather.. give people a decent under card.. seriously could have they put any worse?

    David Diaz and Castillo... and Duddy.. (that one may be okay regardless of the opponent  because Duddy is a human punching.

    For people who THINK Clottey is a great deal,  realize here's 8-1 for a reason... so  bet small if you do.

    The people on Pac-man good luck on your PROP bets, because we know not many are laying 8-1.

    Also look how GAUNT Clottey looked, let's hope he can put on his usual 20 pounds before the fight.

    Either way you bet, enjoy the fight!
                       

    All were excellent points and I agree w/ all

     

    I don't believe pac-man will ko Clottey only due to his physical abilities

    Also Danno Bert's the reason I got into boxing history and is a joy to watch or be around being from Vegas I've run into him at a couple of fights and around town...

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