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    LRM704
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 1:48 AM ET #1

    Friday night ESPN2 has Curtis Stevens -265 vs Jesse Brinkley

    Teddy Atlas is a great guy but he talks too match during the matches.

    Showtime has a good card with Archie Ray Marquez -300 vs Derrick Campos.  Is there a Marquez that cannot fight?

    also bantamweight Chris Avalos is -280 and that line might go up.

    FSN is also on Friday night with Jorge Arce -470

    I hope you guys have a couple of DOGGIE picks because right now the chalk looks solid

    Real friends don't let friends bet too much chalk 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Friday night ESPN2 has Curtis Stevens -265 vs Jesse Brinkley

    Teddy Atlas is a great guy but he talks too match during the matches.

    Showtime has a good card with Archie Ray Marquez -300 vs Derrick Campos.  Is there a Marquez that cannot fight?

    also bantamweight Chris Avalos is -280 and that line might go up.

    FSN is also on Friday night with Jorge Arce -470

    I hope you guys have a couple of DOGGIE picks because right now the chalk looks solid

    Real friends don't let friends bet too much chalk 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 1:49 AM ET #2

    talks too much,  sorry about that
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    talks too much,  sorry about that
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 6:27 AM ET #3

    I like Brinkley tonight, and I love the price.  I really thought the odds would be closer to even.  Stevens made quick work of some undefeated Pole in his last fight, but that guy was a stiff.  That was not an impressive win to me, because I don't think Wilczewski is any good.  Look at the records of the guys he was beating to get to 22-0.  Stevens is a stump, and I think Brinkley is smart enough to use his height and reach to keep Stevens' short punches away from him.  Brinkley has much more experience against world class guys, and I think he outboxes Stevens.  He might have a few rough patches if Stevens can land a hook, but I think he makes it through in front of the hometown fans.  Brinkley by 12 round decision at +450 is pretty generous, if you ask me.  

     

    The Arce fight is on Saturday night.  I don't know a thing about the guy he's fighting, but Arce is done.  That being said, maybe the guy he's fighting is a stiff.  If I have no other action on Saturday night, I'd look at playing against Arce at that price (small though).

     

    Later today I'll figure out what I'm officially betting and post it.

    GL LRM.   

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    I like Brinkley tonight, and I love the price.  I really thought the odds would be closer to even.  Stevens made quick work of some undefeated Pole in his last fight, but that guy was a stiff.  That was not an impressive win to me, because I don't think Wilczewski is any good.  Look at the records of the guys he was beating to get to 22-0.  Stevens is a stump, and I think Brinkley is smart enough to use his height and reach to keep Stevens' short punches away from him.  Brinkley has much more experience against world class guys, and I think he outboxes Stevens.  He might have a few rough patches if Stevens can land a hook, but I think he makes it through in front of the hometown fans.  Brinkley by 12 round decision at +450 is pretty generous, if you ask me.  

     

    The Arce fight is on Saturday night.  I don't know a thing about the guy he's fighting, but Arce is done.  That being said, maybe the guy he's fighting is a stiff.  If I have no other action on Saturday night, I'd look at playing against Arce at that price (small though).

     

    Later today I'll figure out what I'm officially betting and post it.

    GL LRM.   

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #4

    I thought I saw that 5Dimes had Arce fighting on Friday.

    I guess the problem started with  I THOUGHT

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    I thought I saw that 5Dimes had Arce fighting on Friday.

    I guess the problem started with  I THOUGHT

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 2:19 PM ET #5

    I like Brinkley +19.5 pt handicap, if he KO's Stevens that's a win also!


    It's -115.

    This way even if Brinkley gets the W in our cards but the judges favor the 24 year old who this is make or break for... we can still win on points.

    This will be a great fight, two guys going at it. I feel like Danno pulling the trigger on Brinkley by 12 rnd decision.. but going the safer route with the +19.5 points.

    I may be over analyzing it but judges like to give rounds to a younger fighter who has places to go.

    This is Steven's last shot, he fought against Dirrell on HBO which well was one of the worst fights I've ever seen.. not so much Steven's fault Dirrell ran.

    From the other fights I've see of Stevens.. he needs a fighter who will fight his style, and tonight he gets it. Steven's is not a great boxer and the cards I've seen where he brawled the cards  were close.. so even if the judges give the nod to Stevens.. can still win on handicap points.

    I agree with Danno Arce is 100 % washed up, but he is fighting a guy who has never fought out of Indonesia (well once in the Philippines) and LOST.

    Arce is much taller and the bigger guy, I like Arce ITD -190.

    Sad to think I'm 3 years older than Arce and he looks like my dad!

    Good luck tonight & Tomorrow!
                      
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    I like Brinkley +19.5 pt handicap, if he KO's Stevens that's a win also!


    It's -115.

    This way even if Brinkley gets the W in our cards but the judges favor the 24 year old who this is make or break for... we can still win on points.

    This will be a great fight, two guys going at it. I feel like Danno pulling the trigger on Brinkley by 12 rnd decision.. but going the safer route with the +19.5 points.

    I may be over analyzing it but judges like to give rounds to a younger fighter who has places to go.

    This is Steven's last shot, he fought against Dirrell on HBO which well was one of the worst fights I've ever seen.. not so much Steven's fault Dirrell ran.

    From the other fights I've see of Stevens.. he needs a fighter who will fight his style, and tonight he gets it. Steven's is not a great boxer and the cards I've seen where he brawled the cards  were close.. so even if the judges give the nod to Stevens.. can still win on handicap points.

    I agree with Danno Arce is 100 % washed up, but he is fighting a guy who has never fought out of Indonesia (well once in the Philippines) and LOST.

    Arce is much taller and the bigger guy, I like Arce ITD -190.

    Sad to think I'm 3 years older than Arce and he looks like my dad!

    Good luck tonight & Tomorrow!
                      
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 4:46 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:




    Sad to think I'm 3 years older than Arce and he looks like my dad!


    Oh my.  It never computed in my brain that he's only 30.  That's a rough 30, to say the least. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:




    Sad to think I'm 3 years older than Arce and he looks like my dad!


    Oh my.  It never computed in my brain that he's only 30.  That's a rough 30, to say the least. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 5:17 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Oh my.  It never computed in my brain that he's only 30.  That's a rough 30, to say the least. 



    I had to check boxrec 4 times to make sure I was correct... I couldn't believe it myself.

    Sad to say but at 30 he's lost it, he lost it probably two years ago. His style of fighting doesn't lead to a long career  at least he's fighting a pure stiff tomorrow.

    Maybe his last fight before he retires? Never know with some fighters.. he may box until the brain damage is evident!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Oh my.  It never computed in my brain that he's only 30.  That's a rough 30, to say the least. 



    I had to check boxrec 4 times to make sure I was correct... I couldn't believe it myself.

    Sad to say but at 30 he's lost it, he lost it probably two years ago. His style of fighting doesn't lead to a long career  at least he's fighting a pure stiff tomorrow.

    Maybe his last fight before he retires? Never know with some fighters.. he may box until the brain damage is evident!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 5:29 PM ET #8

    +19.5 is a good bet in my opinion
    just have to worry about Stevens landing a KO punch
    but the +19.5 covers any Brinkley win and a decision loss
    the fight is in Reno
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    +19.5 is a good bet in my opinion
    just have to worry about Stevens landing a KO punch
    but the +19.5 covers any Brinkley win and a decision loss
    the fight is in Reno
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 7:16 PM ET #9

    The odds are all shifting in favor of Brinkley.  The points handicap is -160 now. 
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    The odds are all shifting in favor of Brinkley.  The points handicap is -160 now. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #10

    Four plays for me tonight:

    3 units on Brinkley @ +185

    .5 units on Brinkley by 12 rd decision @ +480

    2 units on Shumenov @ -135

    .5 units on under 9.5 rounds in Brewer/Lara @ +250

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    Four plays for me tonight:

    3 units on Brinkley @ +185

    .5 units on Brinkley by 12 rd decision @ +480

    2 units on Shumenov @ -135

    .5 units on under 9.5 rounds in Brewer/Lara @ +250

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostkid:

    +19.5 is a good bet in my opinion
    just have to worry about Stevens landing a KO punch
    but the +19.5 covers any Brinkley win and a decision loss
    the fight is in Reno


    Yes that was my only worry the KO Stevens does have power and Brinkley doesn't hide from you.

    Good luck,
         


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostkid:

    +19.5 is a good bet in my opinion
    just have to worry about Stevens landing a KO punch
    but the +19.5 covers any Brinkley win and a decision loss
    the fight is in Reno


    Yes that was my only worry the KO Stevens does have power and Brinkley doesn't hide from you.

    Good luck,
         


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 7:35 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Four plays for me tonight:

    3 units on Brinkley @ +185

    .5 units on Brinkley by 12 rd decision @ +480

    2 units on Shumenov @ -135

    .5 units on under 9.5 rounds in Brewer/Lara @ +250



    Wow I got it at -115 right when I posted... that's a huge jump at -160 not even worth it at that price.

    I see the Shumenov fight is on MSG  PLUS at 11 PM(Channel 635 for me on Direc TV).I will have to watch shobox on showtime west to get all 3 cards! :)

    Good luck on your wagers!
                  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Four plays for me tonight:

    3 units on Brinkley @ +185

    .5 units on Brinkley by 12 rd decision @ +480

    2 units on Shumenov @ -135

    .5 units on under 9.5 rounds in Brewer/Lara @ +250



    Wow I got it at -115 right when I posted... that's a huge jump at -160 not even worth it at that price.

    I see the Shumenov fight is on MSG  PLUS at 11 PM(Channel 635 for me on Direc TV).I will have to watch shobox on showtime west to get all 3 cards! :)

    Good luck on your wagers!
                  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 7:43 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Wow I got it at -115 right when I posted... that's a huge jump at -160 not even worth it at that price.

    I see the Shumenov fight is on MSG  PLUS at 11 PM(Channel 635 for me on Direc TV).I will have to watch shobox on showtime west to get all 3 cards! :)

    Good luck on your wagers!
                  

    You too.  There's a card on Telemundo too, if you get that channel.  Jesus Ruiz (-140) vs. Luis Melendez. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Wow I got it at -115 right when I posted... that's a huge jump at -160 not even worth it at that price.

    I see the Shumenov fight is on MSG  PLUS at 11 PM(Channel 635 for me on Direc TV).I will have to watch shobox on showtime west to get all 3 cards! :)

    Good luck on your wagers!
                  

    You too.  There's a card on Telemundo too, if you get that channel.  Jesus Ruiz (-140) vs. Luis Melendez. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 8:34 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Yes that was my only worry the KO Stevens does have power and Brinkley doesn't hide from you.

    Good luck,
         


    gl luck u and danno...yes i agree...if i could get the handicap at -115 like u i would definately take brinkley but something smells like a stevens gift decsion or a stevens itd to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Yes that was my only worry the KO Stevens does have power and Brinkley doesn't hide from you.

    Good luck,
         


    gl luck u and danno...yes i agree...if i could get the handicap at -115 like u i would definately take brinkley but something smells like a stevens gift decsion or a stevens itd to me

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    gl luck u and danno...yes i agree...if i could get the handicap at -115 like u i would definately take brinkley but something smells like a stevens gift decsion or a stevens itd to me



    I agree if Stevens wins it will be probably be ITD, I feel if Brinkley can last the first 4-5 rounds.. he will be okay.

    This could end quickly, dangerous play but I felt this was better than laying the chalk with Stevens not sure what his mental frame of mind is.

    I know Stevens has much more to LOSE in this fight, you lose on HBO (granted nothing he could of done against Dirrell)  and IF he was to lose on national TV on ESPN 2 he would be a stepping stone. A decent stepping stone because he carries power.

    MY original thought was Stevens ITD but not 100 sold on him, especially his last 2 fights.. didn't look too great against sub par competition.

    GL also
       
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cee_MoNeY:

    gl luck u and danno...yes i agree...if i could get the handicap at -115 like u i would definately take brinkley but something smells like a stevens gift decsion or a stevens itd to me



    I agree if Stevens wins it will be probably be ITD, I feel if Brinkley can last the first 4-5 rounds.. he will be okay.

    This could end quickly, dangerous play but I felt this was better than laying the chalk with Stevens not sure what his mental frame of mind is.

    I know Stevens has much more to LOSE in this fight, you lose on HBO (granted nothing he could of done against Dirrell)  and IF he was to lose on national TV on ESPN 2 he would be a stepping stone. A decent stepping stone because he carries power.

    MY original thought was Stevens ITD but not 100 sold on him, especially his last 2 fights.. didn't look too great against sub par competition.

    GL also
       
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:22 PM ET #16

    Three thoughts a quarter of the way through:

    Brinkley's head movement is excellent.  Stevens is missing a ton of punches.

    Brinkley should push out 50 jabs a round.  Keep the short guy away from him.

    Atlas is 100% right.  Stevens should be going to the body, and if he starts Jesse may be in trouble.

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    Three thoughts a quarter of the way through:

    Brinkley's head movement is excellent.  Stevens is missing a ton of punches.

    Brinkley should push out 50 jabs a round.  Keep the short guy away from him.

    Atlas is 100% right.  Stevens should be going to the body, and if he starts Jesse may be in trouble.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:30 PM ET #17

    Brinkley beating that ass
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    Brinkley beating that ass
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:37 PM ET #18

    Yes, but these last four rounds are not going to be easy.  He looks tired, and he's getting very sloppy.  Stevens is dangerous.  Brinkley needs to keep his hands up and keep pumping that jab.  These last four rounds are going to give me a heart attack.

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    Yes, but these last four rounds are not going to be easy.  He looks tired, and he's getting very sloppy.  Stevens is dangerous.  Brinkley needs to keep his hands up and keep pumping that jab.  These last four rounds are going to give me a heart attack.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:40 PM ET #19

    Brinkley

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    Brinkley

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #20

    its never easy my friend. NEVER. he needs to take one of these rounds without question. he does not want this fight going to the card
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    its never easy my friend. NEVER. he needs to take one of these rounds without question. he does not want this fight going to the card
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #21

    Brinkley might be in trouble down the stretch here.  He's getting hit a ton now.  He looks gassed. 
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    Brinkley might be in trouble down the stretch here.  He's getting hit a ton now.  He looks gassed. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:53 PM ET #22

    Congrats Danno I was rooting for Stevens to get up .. so you can get the 12rd decision! 
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    Congrats Danno I was rooting for Stevens to get up .. so you can get the 12rd decision! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:54 PM ET #23

    What a fight, Great call Danno
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    What a fight, Great call Danno
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2010 - 11:57 PM ET #24

    Reminds me of the beating Joe Calzaghe gave Jeff Lacey, what a beating!
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    Reminds me of the beating Joe Calzaghe gave Jeff Lacey, what a beating!
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2010 - 12:03 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Reminds me of the beating Joe Calzaghe gave Jeff Lacey, what a beating!

    No kidding.  Stevens' eyes were a mess afterwards.  So were Brinkley's though. 

     

    And thanks.  Do it, Shumenov!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Reminds me of the beating Joe Calzaghe gave Jeff Lacey, what a beating!

    No kidding.  Stevens' eyes were a mess afterwards.  So were Brinkley's though. 

     

    And thanks.  Do it, Shumenov!

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