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    Khan vs Kotelnik

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    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2009 - 11:46 AM ET #26

    lets f*%*&ing have em!!!
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    lets f*%*&ing have em!!!
     
    MirekGti
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2009 - 12:43 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    lets f*%*&ing have em!!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    lets f*%*&ing have em!!!

     

     
    Fullbrights
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2009 - 11:21 PM ET #28

    Mack, got sweaty palms yet?  If you really have even close to that kind of dough on this fight then man you got some balls.  How can you let that much ride on a guy who has shown not just once or twice how fragile his whiskers are who is moving up in weight against the most complete fighter that he has fought so far?
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    Mack, got sweaty palms yet?  If you really have even close to that kind of dough on this fight then man you got some balls.  How can you let that much ride on a guy who has shown not just once or twice how fragile his whiskers are who is moving up in weight against the most complete fighter that he has fought so far?
     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 4:36 PM ET #29

    https://www.justin.tv/vip_boxing_4/old if you guys in the States can't see the fight..
     
    FullBrights when I first saw Amir Khan in the Olympics I was 100% sure this guy would be a world champ one day. He is one of the most quick, slickiest boxers in the world today and IF he had a chin he would be a world superstar.
     
    So why gamble so much? I think Kotelnick is tailor made for Khan and I don't see him KOing Khan I really don't. I am sure there will be nervous moments, of course there will. This guy Kotelnick is NO mug but he is very beatable and on pure boxing ability he is not in Khan's league IMO. He is not a banger and his counter punching style I think will play into Khan's hands. This will be a snooze fest for the first few rounds and Khan's slicker boxing will mean he will steal these rounds. This will force Kotelnick to come forward and he is not skilled a boxer enough to adapt and Khan will pick and move and stay out of trouble..
     
    Of course with a guy this chinny there is a worry, especially in the late rounds. The late rounds are my biggest concern. But, I notice the bets I don't worry about are the bets I lose. Yes I am worried because NO BET is ever guarenteed. We can only judge on our knowledge and the information given. I am fully convinced Khan will win and no one will have me swayed.
     
    Yes I am nervous. But I won 93K on Wimbledon (Posted on the tennis picks) so I can afford to take the loss. But it would hurt because it means back to the day job to be honest (IT contractor). I have been making money for years gambling and it is very nervous having gambling as you way of earning a living right now but I believe in my capping and the adrenaline of following a big bet is what makes me feel alive. I have helped friends out of financial messes and I like helping my covers followers as well.
     
    To be honest I have invested 80% of my profits on this fight. I would not do this if I did not fully believe...Best of luck everyone, especially me and my followers!
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    https://www.justin.tv/vip_boxing_4/old if you guys in the States can't see the fight..
     
    FullBrights when I first saw Amir Khan in the Olympics I was 100% sure this guy would be a world champ one day. He is one of the most quick, slickiest boxers in the world today and IF he had a chin he would be a world superstar.
     
    So why gamble so much? I think Kotelnick is tailor made for Khan and I don't see him KOing Khan I really don't. I am sure there will be nervous moments, of course there will. This guy Kotelnick is NO mug but he is very beatable and on pure boxing ability he is not in Khan's league IMO. He is not a banger and his counter punching style I think will play into Khan's hands. This will be a snooze fest for the first few rounds and Khan's slicker boxing will mean he will steal these rounds. This will force Kotelnick to come forward and he is not skilled a boxer enough to adapt and Khan will pick and move and stay out of trouble..
     
    Of course with a guy this chinny there is a worry, especially in the late rounds. The late rounds are my biggest concern. But, I notice the bets I don't worry about are the bets I lose. Yes I am worried because NO BET is ever guarenteed. We can only judge on our knowledge and the information given. I am fully convinced Khan will win and no one will have me swayed.
     
    Yes I am nervous. But I won 93K on Wimbledon (Posted on the tennis picks) so I can afford to take the loss. But it would hurt because it means back to the day job to be honest (IT contractor). I have been making money for years gambling and it is very nervous having gambling as you way of earning a living right now but I believe in my capping and the adrenaline of following a big bet is what makes me feel alive. I have helped friends out of financial messes and I like helping my covers followers as well.
     
    To be honest I have invested 80% of my profits on this fight. I would not do this if I did not fully believe...Best of luck everyone, especially me and my followers!
     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 6:54 PM ET #30

    And That is how its done!!! Thats 170k profit I have posted on Covers in the past 2 weeks. Show me a better capper please...if you followed me with Belief then I have made you a lot of money..I will be back!!! I am getting Drunk now! Later dudes!!!
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    And That is how its done!!! Thats 170k profit I have posted on Covers in the past 2 weeks. Show me a better capper please...if you followed me with Belief then I have made you a lot of money..I will be back!!! I am getting Drunk now! Later dudes!!!
     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 6:58 PM ET #31

    Dudes ok he has no chin but this kid can box...
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    Dudes ok he has no chin but this kid can box...
     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 7:13 PM ET #32

    170 K of profit
     
    1) 40 k Fed to Win Wimbledon @ roughly evens
    2) 15 k Serena Williams @ 5/2
    3) 1K Andy Rossick e/w @ 25/1
    4) Amir Khan to win @ opening price 8/13
     
    works out over 170 k all posted with plenty of notice..
    Yet for some reason I don't seem to have a big following here as I do on UK sites where I am a legend..
     
    I might even stop posting here If I dont get the love soon...
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    170 K of profit
     
    1) 40 k Fed to Win Wimbledon @ roughly evens
    2) 15 k Serena Williams @ 5/2
    3) 1K Andy Rossick e/w @ 25/1
    4) Amir Khan to win @ opening price 8/13
     
    works out over 170 k all posted with plenty of notice..
    Yet for some reason I don't seem to have a big following here as I do on UK sites where I am a legend..
     
    I might even stop posting here If I dont get the love soon...
     
    gsprush
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 8:03 PM ET #33

    Congrats, Mack.  I had a small play on Khan just to tail you. I was going to put more in tonight, but I didn't realize this fight was happening in the afternoon (my time).
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    Congrats, Mack.  I had a small play on Khan just to tail you. I was going to put more in tonight, but I didn't realize this fight was happening in the afternoon (my time).
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #34

    Nice hit
    very well done

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    Nice hit
    very well done

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 8:50 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    170 K of profit
     
    1) 40 k Fed to Win Wimbledon @ roughly evens
    2) 15 k Serena Williams @ 5/2
    3) 1K Andy Rossick e/w @ 25/1
    4) Amir Khan to win @ opening price 8/13
     
    works out over 170 k all posted with plenty of notice..
    Yet for some reason I don't seem to have a big following here as I do on UK sites where I am a legend..
     
    I might even stop posting here If I dont get the love soon...

    Feel free to do so if you are going to continue acting like a fool after a chalky win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    170 K of profit
     
    1) 40 k Fed to Win Wimbledon @ roughly evens
    2) 15 k Serena Williams @ 5/2
    3) 1K Andy Rossick e/w @ 25/1
    4) Amir Khan to win @ opening price 8/13
     
    works out over 170 k all posted with plenty of notice..
    Yet for some reason I don't seem to have a big following here as I do on UK sites where I am a legend..
     
    I might even stop posting here If I dont get the love soon...

    Feel free to do so if you are going to continue acting like a fool after a chalky win.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 9:18 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Feel free to do so if you are going to continue acting like a fool after a chalky win.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Feel free to do so if you are going to continue acting like a fool after a chalky win.

     

     

     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2009 - 9:25 PM ET #37

    Fine I am done. This is my last post you guys don't deserve my help
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    Fine I am done. This is my last post you guys don't deserve my help
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2009 - 1:35 AM ET #38

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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Ok Guys here is the writeup. If you didn't take the price when I first posted, I still would recommend unloading as much as you can on the 4/11.. Below is why..
     
    Amir Khan bids to complete a truly remarkable transformation when he meets Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title in Manchester on Saturday night. Within the space of 12 months Khan has gone from pugilistic palooka to possible champion of the world and if he can get the better of Ukraine stylist Kotelnik at the MEN Arena this weekend he will finally realise his boyhood dream. Last September Khan's dreams were shattered by the brutal fists of Breidis Prescott, who stopped the Bolton prodigy in just 54 seconds in the very ring where Saturday's drama will be played out. Critics were queuing up after that KO defeat to write Khan's ring obituary despite his tender years. 'No chin, no defence, no chance' they crowed in the days after Prescott. However to his eternal credit Khan has rebuilt with two good wins since, including a fine taming of Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera last time out and as a result he finds himself on the cusp of world title glory. He's moving up in weight (from 135 to 140lbs) to have a crack at the more experienced Kotelnik but despite this there has been plenty of money for Khan to get the job done (he opened up at 8/13 with some layers but is as short as 1/3 in places now). Kotelnik is well known to fans this side of the pond having boxed in the UK. Like Khan he is an Olympic silver medallist at lightweight (Sydney 2000) and European fans will remember him from bouts against Junior Witter, Souley M'Baye and Gavin Rees. He lost a disputed decision to Witter in Nottingham in 2005 and two years later was held to a draw by M'baye in Liverpool (in a fight many observers had him winning handily). But he made it third time lucky on UK soil when he out-pointed Rees for the WBA belt in March 2008.
     
    He's made two defences since then including a hugely impressive points win over Marcos Maidana last time out. Maidana was last seen icing top US prospect 'Vicious' Victor Ortiz and so the fact that Kotelnik holds a win over the Argentine should tell us plenty about his ability. He boxes out of a classic European style. He's very upright and spears out a fine jab through a tight defence. In 34 fights he's never been stopped which suggests his chin is pretty decent. Indeed Khan himself conceded this week that he doesn't see the fight ending via an early KO. Speaking at a press conference on Thursday he said "It's going to be a skilful fight, more about technique, and I don't think it's going to finish early." Nor do I. I envisage a chess match early on as both men try to take control of the bout from ring centre. The jury is still out on Khan's chin but I don't think Kotelnik has the power to trouble Amir (his KO ratio is less than 40%) and that could ultimately be his downfall on the night. Khan is one of the fastest, most dynamic fighters in the game and looks a fighter reborn under Freddie Roach. I can see him trying to dazzle his eastern European opponent with those flashy, accurate combinations and though he may have to survive one of two rocky moments himself I see him doing enough to earn a unanimous decision win. So if you looking for value that might be the way to go.
     
    However, I do not like or recommend beating on methods of victory. I believed that day when I saw Khan win silver in Athens, with the right guidance this guy would be a world champion. He has got the right fight, against the right opponent and he fights on home turf. If you haven't done so already unload. You won't regret it...
     
    5 Star bet. Amir Khan to win.
     


    Here is the , where the play was in fact on a method of victory, despite Mack's reluctance to pick a specific outcome. The real play was Khan by UD, not Khan -170 or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Ok Guys here is the writeup. If you didn't take the price when I first posted, I still would recommend unloading as much as you can on the 4/11.. Below is why..
     
    Amir Khan bids to complete a truly remarkable transformation when he meets Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title in Manchester on Saturday night. Within the space of 12 months Khan has gone from pugilistic palooka to possible champion of the world and if he can get the better of Ukraine stylist Kotelnik at the MEN Arena this weekend he will finally realise his boyhood dream. Last September Khan's dreams were shattered by the brutal fists of Breidis Prescott, who stopped the Bolton prodigy in just 54 seconds in the very ring where Saturday's drama will be played out. Critics were queuing up after that KO defeat to write Khan's ring obituary despite his tender years. 'No chin, no defence, no chance' they crowed in the days after Prescott. However to his eternal credit Khan has rebuilt with two good wins since, including a fine taming of Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera last time out and as a result he finds himself on the cusp of world title glory. He's moving up in weight (from 135 to 140lbs) to have a crack at the more experienced Kotelnik but despite this there has been plenty of money for Khan to get the job done (he opened up at 8/13 with some layers but is as short as 1/3 in places now). Kotelnik is well known to fans this side of the pond having boxed in the UK. Like Khan he is an Olympic silver medallist at lightweight (Sydney 2000) and European fans will remember him from bouts against Junior Witter, Souley M'Baye and Gavin Rees. He lost a disputed decision to Witter in Nottingham in 2005 and two years later was held to a draw by M'baye in Liverpool (in a fight many observers had him winning handily). But he made it third time lucky on UK soil when he out-pointed Rees for the WBA belt in March 2008.
     
    He's made two defences since then including a hugely impressive points win over Marcos Maidana last time out. Maidana was last seen icing top US prospect 'Vicious' Victor Ortiz and so the fact that Kotelnik holds a win over the Argentine should tell us plenty about his ability. He boxes out of a classic European style. He's very upright and spears out a fine jab through a tight defence. In 34 fights he's never been stopped which suggests his chin is pretty decent. Indeed Khan himself conceded this week that he doesn't see the fight ending via an early KO. Speaking at a press conference on Thursday he said "It's going to be a skilful fight, more about technique, and I don't think it's going to finish early." Nor do I. I envisage a chess match early on as both men try to take control of the bout from ring centre. The jury is still out on Khan's chin but I don't think Kotelnik has the power to trouble Amir (his KO ratio is less than 40%) and that could ultimately be his downfall on the night. Khan is one of the fastest, most dynamic fighters in the game and looks a fighter reborn under Freddie Roach. I can see him trying to dazzle his eastern European opponent with those flashy, accurate combinations and though he may have to survive one of two rocky moments himself I see him doing enough to earn a unanimous decision win. So if you looking for value that might be the way to go.
     
    However, I do not like or recommend beating on methods of victory. I believed that day when I saw Khan win silver in Athens, with the right guidance this guy would be a world champion. He has got the right fight, against the right opponent and he fights on home turf. If you haven't done so already unload. You won't regret it...
     
    5 Star bet. Amir Khan to win.
     


    Here is the , where the play was in fact on a method of victory, despite Mack's reluctance to pick a specific outcome. The real play was Khan by UD, not Khan -170 or whatever.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #40

    Oops, let me try again.


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    Oops, let me try again.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #41

    https://www.bettingzone.co.uk/other/betting/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=betting/09/07/16/manual_223043.html
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    https://www.bettingzone.co.uk/other/betting/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=betting/09/07/16/manual_223043.html
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 1:27 PM ET #42

    Link button isn't working for me here. Mack posted the write up on Covers and changed the pick to Khan -170. On the other site, the actual play was Khan by UD +250.
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    Link button isn't working for me here. Mack posted the write up on Covers and changed the pick to Khan -170. On the other site, the actual play was Khan by UD +250.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2009 - 12:51 AM ET #43

    spin stop this! Yes I want for value. i didnt announce on sporting life I was putting most of my bankroll! so i offered the value choice
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    spin stop this! Yes I want for value. i didnt announce on sporting life I was putting most of my bankroll! so i offered the value choice
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