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    Khan is the best fighter in this division...

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    KingHenry30
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:02 PM ET #1

    In my eyes, Khan out boxes either of these guys..  convincingly..
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    In my eyes, Khan out boxes either of these guys..  convincingly..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:13 PM ET #2

    I agree.
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    I agree.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:37 PM ET #3

    Yep

    crappy user name and avatar though
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    Yep

    crappy user name and avatar though
     
    KingHenry30
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yep

    crappy user name and avatar though


    Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yep

    crappy user name and avatar though


    Haha
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 1:58 AM ET #5

    I don't know who I'd pick in BRADLEY vs KHAN but Khan will probably be a -175 or -200 favorite. -300 if it takes place in England.

    Khan should win the early rounds, but after that its a toss-up in my mind.

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    I don't know who I'd pick in BRADLEY vs KHAN but Khan will probably be a -175 or -200 favorite. -300 if it takes place in England.

    Khan should win the early rounds, but after that its a toss-up in my mind.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 10:42 AM ET #6

    I'll take Bradley over Khan when they'll fight in vegas in July unless Khan gets a cut in his fight in April.
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    I'll take Bradley over Khan when they'll fight in vegas in July unless Khan gets a cut in his fight in April.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 1:10 PM ET #7

    Very intriguing fight IMO. I saw a ton of room for improvement in Khan's decision over Maidana. I thought Maidana was a pretty easy target and after the early body shot that put him down, Khan did very little to impress me, other than survive the late rounds.

    In a matchup with Bradley, you'll see comparable hand speed, but that knockout threat/fear will be non-existent. There was never a moment in the Bradley / Alexander fight where I even entertained the idea of a knockout (w / the exception of a couple butts). So Khan's alleged glass-jaw will more than likely not be tested. Psychologically, that gives an advantage to Amir, however, there is something about Bradley's ring IQ that impresses me. He is a smart fighter and something tells me that would give Khan fits.....just my 0.02.

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    Very intriguing fight IMO. I saw a ton of room for improvement in Khan's decision over Maidana. I thought Maidana was a pretty easy target and after the early body shot that put him down, Khan did very little to impress me, other than survive the late rounds.

    In a matchup with Bradley, you'll see comparable hand speed, but that knockout threat/fear will be non-existent. There was never a moment in the Bradley / Alexander fight where I even entertained the idea of a knockout (w / the exception of a couple butts). So Khan's alleged glass-jaw will more than likely not be tested. Psychologically, that gives an advantage to Amir, however, there is something about Bradley's ring IQ that impresses me. He is a smart fighter and something tells me that would give Khan fits.....just my 0.02.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 4:37 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    Very intriguing fight IMO. I saw a ton of room for improvement in Khan's decision over Maidana. I thought Maidana was a pretty easy target and after the early body shot that put him down, Khan did very little to impress me, other than survive the late rounds.

    In a matchup with Bradley, you'll see comparable hand speed, but that knockout threat/fear will be non-existent. There was never a moment in the Bradley / Alexander fight where I even entertained the idea of a knockout (w / the exception of a couple butts). So Khan's alleged glass-jaw will more than likely not be tested. Psychologically, that gives an advantage to Amir, however, there is something about Bradley's ring IQ that impresses me. He is a smart fighter and something tells me that would give Khan fits.....just my 0.02.



    Agree with a lot of the points you made BUT I do not at all believe the hand speed is comparable, Khan's hand speed advantage should definitely be noticeable...  and with the lack of fear for Bradley's punching power, I think that Khan wins however we shall see, hopefully soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:

    Very intriguing fight IMO. I saw a ton of room for improvement in Khan's decision over Maidana. I thought Maidana was a pretty easy target and after the early body shot that put him down, Khan did very little to impress me, other than survive the late rounds.

    In a matchup with Bradley, you'll see comparable hand speed, but that knockout threat/fear will be non-existent. There was never a moment in the Bradley / Alexander fight where I even entertained the idea of a knockout (w / the exception of a couple butts). So Khan's alleged glass-jaw will more than likely not be tested. Psychologically, that gives an advantage to Amir, however, there is something about Bradley's ring IQ that impresses me. He is a smart fighter and something tells me that would give Khan fits.....just my 0.02.



    Agree with a lot of the points you made BUT I do not at all believe the hand speed is comparable, Khan's hand speed advantage should definitely be noticeable...  and with the lack of fear for Bradley's punching power, I think that Khan wins however we shall see, hopefully soon
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 4:38 PM ET #9

    Not to mention the Roach factor which is obviously an advantage
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    Not to mention the Roach factor which is obviously an advantage
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 7:21 PM ET #10

    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley
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    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 12:08 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley


    Khan and Technique should not be linked together. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley


    Khan and Technique should not be linked together. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 12:11 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley

    Bradley beats Khan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    Technique wise Khan is one of the most talented in the game today. IMO he would only have problems with guys that are supremely talented aka Mayweather/Pacquiao or guys that have KO power like Maidana. I think he would beat both alexander/Bradley

    Bradley beats Khan.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 12:19 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    Khan and Technique should not be linked together. 


    With the training of Roach, Khan has improved a lot. His strength/stamina are much better to go along with his speed/power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    Khan and Technique should not be linked together. 


    With the training of Roach, Khan has improved a lot. His strength/stamina are much better to go along with his speed/power.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 12:20 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    Bradley beats Khan.


    what do you know? You make bs statements like Donaire has no chin or heart yet have nothing to back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    Bradley beats Khan.


    what do you know? You make bs statements like Donaire has no chin or heart yet have nothing to back it up.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 10:44 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:



    With the training of Roach, Khan has improved a lot. His strength/stamina are much better to go along with his speed/power.


    uh did you watch the Maidana fight?  He was constantly off balance and can't fight inside. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:



    With the training of Roach, Khan has improved a lot. His strength/stamina are much better to go along with his speed/power.


    uh did you watch the Maidana fight?  He was constantly off balance and can't fight inside. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 10:51 AM ET #16

    It is unfortunate we all cannot be as gifted in capping as Jersey Boy who for some reason still believes that Maidana beat Khan but that aside, without alex ariza in his camp I 100% back off my stance... Ariza does just as much for these fighters as Freddie Roach, it's the 2 of them together that are near perfect in preparing fighters.  Not sure who's right with this whole Khan/Ariza bullshit but it will hurt Amir's future substantially to lose him
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    It is unfortunate we all cannot be as gifted in capping as Jersey Boy who for some reason still believes that Maidana beat Khan but that aside, without alex ariza in his camp I 100% back off my stance... Ariza does just as much for these fighters as Freddie Roach, it's the 2 of them together that are near perfect in preparing fighters.  Not sure who's right with this whole Khan/Ariza bullshit but it will hurt Amir's future substantially to lose him
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 5:04 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    uh did you watch the Maidana fight?  He was constantly off balance and can't fight inside. 


    Yeah I did. Without Roach training Khan would have folded and gave up in the 10th. HE had to move fast cause Maidana was a big puncher. Didn't you bet on Maidana?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    uh did you watch the Maidana fight?  He was constantly off balance and can't fight inside. 


    Yeah I did. Without Roach training Khan would have folded and gave up in the 10th. HE had to move fast cause Maidana was a big puncher. Didn't you bet on Maidana?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2011 - 12:44 AM ET #18

    I want to see a pacman vs khan
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    I want to see a pacman vs khan
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2011 - 1:19 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by sunset:

    I want to see a pacman vs khan


    You already have. There are several rounds of sparring footage between the two floating around. Khan has been holding his own and often getting the better of Manny during these sessions. They'll never, ever, EVER fight though. It sucks because we'll never get the fights we want to see, this one included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunset:

    I want to see a pacman vs khan


    You already have. There are several rounds of sparring footage between the two floating around. Khan has been holding his own and often getting the better of Manny during these sessions. They'll never, ever, EVER fight though. It sucks because we'll never get the fights we want to see, this one included.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 4:15 PM ET #20

    Freddie is a peddler we will never see Khan/Pacman.

    Anyone see Freddie's  "project" get exposed on Shobox Friday Night?
     Lateef Kayode shows you how much boxing is MENTAL the guy escaped with a win (which I'm not even sure about).

     Nothing old Freddie can do for that guy he doesn't have "IT".

    The guy who fought after him Franco.. isn't much better makes Paul Malinaggi look like a heavy hitter. Kid must learn to sit down on his punches or he will bore people to sleep!

                                            




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    Freddie is a peddler we will never see Khan/Pacman.

    Anyone see Freddie's  "project" get exposed on Shobox Friday Night?
     Lateef Kayode shows you how much boxing is MENTAL the guy escaped with a win (which I'm not even sure about).

     Nothing old Freddie can do for that guy he doesn't have "IT".

    The guy who fought after him Franco.. isn't much better makes Paul Malinaggi look like a heavy hitter. Kid must learn to sit down on his punches or he will bore people to sleep!

                                            




     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:34 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Freddie is a peddler we will never see Khan/Pacman.

    Anyone see Freddie's  "project" get exposed on Shobox Friday Night?
     Lateef Kayode shows you how much boxing is MENTAL the guy escaped with a win (which I'm not even sure about).

     Nothing old Freddie can do for that guy he doesn't have "IT".

    The guy who fought after him Franco.. isn't much better makes Paul Malinaggi look like a heavy hitter. Kid must learn to sit down on his punches or he will bore people to sleep!

                                            






    How about his attempt at changing Chavez Jr.? Everyone talks about Freddie like he is a miracle worker. He isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Freddie is a peddler we will never see Khan/Pacman.

    Anyone see Freddie's  "project" get exposed on Shobox Friday Night?
     Lateef Kayode shows you how much boxing is MENTAL the guy escaped with a win (which I'm not even sure about).

     Nothing old Freddie can do for that guy he doesn't have "IT".

    The guy who fought after him Franco.. isn't much better makes Paul Malinaggi look like a heavy hitter. Kid must learn to sit down on his punches or he will bore people to sleep!

                                            






    How about his attempt at changing Chavez Jr.? Everyone talks about Freddie like he is a miracle worker. He isn't.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2011 - 9:05 AM ET #22

    Excluding Mayweather, I think only Andre Ward is mentally tougher then Timothy Bradley right now in American boxing. Bradley does everything well and he is defensively very underated. I have no doubt in my mind Khan is the more skilled fighter of the two, but no way he is as mentally tough as Timothy Bradley.

    I think one day Bradley will get completely outclassed. I think Pacman, but especially a Floyd Mayweather would simply destroy Bradley. Khan? I'm not so sure. I think Bradley will make Khan fight his kind of fight and I think Khan will end up doing exactly that. I will be playing on Bradley here. Not large for the simple fact that the Khan has buckets load of potential and who knows he much he has learnt from the Miadana fight.

    King Henry is wrong. Until Khan beats Bradley, then Bradley is the best in the division. Bradley has earnt that title. His last 3 fights (I realise one of those fights was at 147) was against opponents with a 77-0 record.

    Khan is the one with still more to prove. Most of the time, I will take the mentally tougher fighter in these spots..Over to you to prove me wrong Amir..

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    Excluding Mayweather, I think only Andre Ward is mentally tougher then Timothy Bradley right now in American boxing. Bradley does everything well and he is defensively very underated. I have no doubt in my mind Khan is the more skilled fighter of the two, but no way he is as mentally tough as Timothy Bradley.

    I think one day Bradley will get completely outclassed. I think Pacman, but especially a Floyd Mayweather would simply destroy Bradley. Khan? I'm not so sure. I think Bradley will make Khan fight his kind of fight and I think Khan will end up doing exactly that. I will be playing on Bradley here. Not large for the simple fact that the Khan has buckets load of potential and who knows he much he has learnt from the Miadana fight.

    King Henry is wrong. Until Khan beats Bradley, then Bradley is the best in the division. Bradley has earnt that title. His last 3 fights (I realise one of those fights was at 147) was against opponents with a 77-0 record.

    Khan is the one with still more to prove. Most of the time, I will take the mentally tougher fighter in these spots..Over to you to prove me wrong Amir..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 1:00 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Excluding Mayweather, I think only Andre Ward is mentally tougher then Timothy Bradley right now in American boxing. Bradley does everything well and he is defensively very underated. I have no doubt in my mind Khan is the more skilled fighter of the two, but no way he is as mentally tough as Timothy Bradley.

    I think one day Bradley will get completely outclassed. I think Pacman, but especially a Floyd Mayweather would simply destroy Bradley. Khan? I'm not so sure. I think Bradley will make Khan fight his kind of fight and I think Khan will end up doing exactly that. I will be playing on Bradley here. Not large for the simple fact that the Khan has buckets load of potential and who knows he much he has learnt from the Miadana fight.

    King Henry is wrong. Until Khan beats Bradley, then Bradley is the best in the division. Bradley has earnt that title. His last 3 fights (I realise one of those fights was at 147) was against opponents with a 77-0 record.

    Khan is the one with still more to prove. Most of the time, I will take the mentally tougher fighter in these spots..Over to you to prove me wrong Amir..



    Khan is not skilled.  Khan has just hand speed.  Not a skilled fighter in any sense of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Excluding Mayweather, I think only Andre Ward is mentally tougher then Timothy Bradley right now in American boxing. Bradley does everything well and he is defensively very underated. I have no doubt in my mind Khan is the more skilled fighter of the two, but no way he is as mentally tough as Timothy Bradley.

    I think one day Bradley will get completely outclassed. I think Pacman, but especially a Floyd Mayweather would simply destroy Bradley. Khan? I'm not so sure. I think Bradley will make Khan fight his kind of fight and I think Khan will end up doing exactly that. I will be playing on Bradley here. Not large for the simple fact that the Khan has buckets load of potential and who knows he much he has learnt from the Miadana fight.

    King Henry is wrong. Until Khan beats Bradley, then Bradley is the best in the division. Bradley has earnt that title. His last 3 fights (I realise one of those fights was at 147) was against opponents with a 77-0 record.

    Khan is the one with still more to prove. Most of the time, I will take the mentally tougher fighter in these spots..Over to you to prove me wrong Amir..



    Khan is not skilled.  Khan has just hand speed.  Not a skilled fighter in any sense of the word.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2011 - 8:22 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    Khan is not skilled.  Khan has just hand speed.  Not a skilled fighter in any sense of the word.


    WRONG moron. my god u know nothing about boxing. Look back at Khan's fights as an amateur. The boy has skills..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



    Khan is not skilled.  Khan has just hand speed.  Not a skilled fighter in any sense of the word.


    WRONG moron. my god u know nothing about boxing. Look back at Khan's fights as an amateur. The boy has skills..
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 12:32 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:



    WRONG moron. my god u know nothing about boxing. Look back at Khan's fights as an amateur. The boy has skills..

    come again boy?  Like I said last year, Khan has no skills only speed.  Can't fight off the backfoot for shit, terrible footwork, terrible balance, and can't fight on the inside.  Never talk boxing again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:



    WRONG moron. my god u know nothing about boxing. Look back at Khan's fights as an amateur. The boy has skills..

    come again boy?  Like I said last year, Khan has no skills only speed.  Can't fight off the backfoot for shit, terrible footwork, terrible balance, and can't fight on the inside.  Never talk boxing again.
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