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    Keys to Victory Pac-man hatton

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    MDnightFlight
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    Posted: May. 2, 2009 - 1:33 PM ET #26

    Pac-Man here
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    Pac-Man here
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2009 - 1:42 PM ET #27

    Was that worth starting a thread on? There is like 10 threads on this...
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    Was that worth starting a thread on? There is like 10 threads on this...
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2009 - 2:35 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Where did I say check hook...I said left hand. Boxing is angles and there is a hole there [defense] so all punches near that angle will land...i.e. straight left, left hook. Lazcano doesn't know how to check hook but he landed several left hooks against Hatton.

    Pac doesn't even know how to throw a regular hook never mind a check hook. Learn your punches my man. 


    Thanks for the lecture. In your original post, you said Hatton is open to a left hook. Floyd hit him with a left hook from an orthodox stance. Lazcano also landed left hooks from an orthodox stance. You said Floyd provided a blue print with the left hook. Unless I am missing something, there is a difference between Floyd's left hook from an orthodox stance and Manny's straight left from a Southpaw or completely squared up posture.

    I'm not gonna say that punch doesn't land, but to say Floyd laid the blueprint you must now realize is a bit off. That's why I posted. Because Manny doesn't throw a left hook, and you said Hatton was vulnerable to the punch. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    Where did I say check hook...I said left hand. Boxing is angles and there is a hole there [defense] so all punches near that angle will land...i.e. straight left, left hook. Lazcano doesn't know how to check hook but he landed several left hooks against Hatton.

    Pac doesn't even know how to throw a regular hook never mind a check hook. Learn your punches my man. 


    Thanks for the lecture. In your original post, you said Hatton is open to a left hook. Floyd hit him with a left hook from an orthodox stance. Lazcano also landed left hooks from an orthodox stance. You said Floyd provided a blue print with the left hook. Unless I am missing something, there is a difference between Floyd's left hook from an orthodox stance and Manny's straight left from a Southpaw or completely squared up posture.

    I'm not gonna say that punch doesn't land, but to say Floyd laid the blueprint you must now realize is a bit off. That's why I posted. Because Manny doesn't throw a left hook, and you said Hatton was vulnerable to the punch. 
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:



    You seem determined to use many words while at the same time saying very little. You can call Ricky Hatton many things (slow, basic, without defense, boring), but I would defy you to provide credible evidence of him being a quitter. He has never quit in a fight, and he fights 3 minutes of every round (except for when he's holding). In his last mega fight with Mayweather I believe he showed great heart, continuing to apply pressure despite the horrible punishment he was absorbing to the end.

    I don't see my role on this board as that of a tout. I prefer to provide whatever insight I can, and then allow people to decide for themselves how to risk their cash. Sometimes this means offering counter insight and telling people when I think they are making a square play like Jermain Taylor last week and Manny Pacquiao this week. Whichever way you end up going, I would prefer that you not build a case with absurdities like "Ricky Hatton has no heart."


    YOU said both men would die in the ring, I said I know Pac-man would but I've never seen Ricky in a fight like that. I never said Ricky doesn't have heart, I said show   me  a fight where he was in an amazing fight.

    Yes he didn't quit against May Weather, but what happens when a guy QUITS his career is over. All I wanted was ONE fight where Ricky wowed the crowd  and made you say "REMATCH"!

    That doesn't mean he's a BUM nor has  no heart.

    I did a few write-ups that show BOTH views on a fighter not as a betting stance.

    I never once said Ricky was SLOW, he has  speed, but he is slower than Pac-man in this fight (most are).

    I also stated in a few posts, he needs his jab BACK (which means he did have one).

    I completely respect your insight, my write up is by NO means a reason to place a wager on a certain guy its for the same reason as you do to provide a take on the fight and maybe people can grab some information they didn't know.

    If I came off as abrasive to you I'm sorry. I didn't mean it that way, I was not defending Pac-man and ripping up Ricky. I just saw the word DIE in the ring and I analyzed that and that was wrong because it took away from your analysis and that's why you posted.

    Again by no means did I want to take away from your post, everyone who posts here is posting for the same reason, and I 100 % agree we post here to maybe give and get some insight.

    Anyone who makes a wager make a wager on your OWN decision, because it's your money you lose or win.

    I know many follow write ups here and many are usually right, but in the end it's a persons choice who they take.

    Good luck to everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:



    You seem determined to use many words while at the same time saying very little. You can call Ricky Hatton many things (slow, basic, without defense, boring), but I would defy you to provide credible evidence of him being a quitter. He has never quit in a fight, and he fights 3 minutes of every round (except for when he's holding). In his last mega fight with Mayweather I believe he showed great heart, continuing to apply pressure despite the horrible punishment he was absorbing to the end.

    I don't see my role on this board as that of a tout. I prefer to provide whatever insight I can, and then allow people to decide for themselves how to risk their cash. Sometimes this means offering counter insight and telling people when I think they are making a square play like Jermain Taylor last week and Manny Pacquiao this week. Whichever way you end up going, I would prefer that you not build a case with absurdities like "Ricky Hatton has no heart."


    YOU said both men would die in the ring, I said I know Pac-man would but I've never seen Ricky in a fight like that. I never said Ricky doesn't have heart, I said show   me  a fight where he was in an amazing fight.

    Yes he didn't quit against May Weather, but what happens when a guy QUITS his career is over. All I wanted was ONE fight where Ricky wowed the crowd  and made you say "REMATCH"!

    That doesn't mean he's a BUM nor has  no heart.

    I did a few write-ups that show BOTH views on a fighter not as a betting stance.

    I never once said Ricky was SLOW, he has  speed, but he is slower than Pac-man in this fight (most are).

    I also stated in a few posts, he needs his jab BACK (which means he did have one).

    I completely respect your insight, my write up is by NO means a reason to place a wager on a certain guy its for the same reason as you do to provide a take on the fight and maybe people can grab some information they didn't know.

    If I came off as abrasive to you I'm sorry. I didn't mean it that way, I was not defending Pac-man and ripping up Ricky. I just saw the word DIE in the ring and I analyzed that and that was wrong because it took away from your analysis and that's why you posted.

    Again by no means did I want to take away from your post, everyone who posts here is posting for the same reason, and I 100 % agree we post here to maybe give and get some insight.

    Anyone who makes a wager make a wager on your OWN decision, because it's your money you lose or win.

    I know many follow write ups here and many are usually right, but in the end it's a persons choice who they take.

    Good luck to everyone!
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2009 - 12:12 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Pacman key to victory:
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2009 - 12:26 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:




     

    LOL well it did end up that way. I try to do write ups that seem fair, and explain keys to victory for both fighters even if the fight is a mismatch.

    This is the way I've learned to do it so people don't say I'm a Hatton Hater or siding with one side.

     

    The reason there was a Laundry List of Keys to Victory for Ricky is because he needed them, I was being as polite as possible as I know there were a few people who are regular posters who were backing Hatton so to not start fights or step on toes, I did an equal write up!

    Yours was short and sweet lol!

    How much did you wind up getting it for.. I posted it at 4:46 this morning -230 at the greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:




     

    LOL well it did end up that way. I try to do write ups that seem fair, and explain keys to victory for both fighters even if the fight is a mismatch.

    This is the way I've learned to do it so people don't say I'm a Hatton Hater or siding with one side.

     

    The reason there was a Laundry List of Keys to Victory for Ricky is because he needed them, I was being as polite as possible as I know there were a few people who are regular posters who were backing Hatton so to not start fights or step on toes, I did an equal write up!

    Yours was short and sweet lol!

    How much did you wind up getting it for.. I posted it at 4:46 this morning -230 at the greek.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2009 - 12:31 AM ET #32

    -250 didnt really make anything on it.. won a whopping $50

    I bet it out here in Vegas I dont have an online account anywhere

    I'll take it i guess

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    -250 didnt really make anything on it.. won a whopping $50

    I bet it out here in Vegas I dont have an online account anywhere

    I'll take it i guess

     
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2009 - 12:40 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    -250 didnt really make anything on it.. won a whopping $50

    I bet it out here in Vegas I dont have an online account anywhere

    I'll take it i guess

    I preffered the not to go the distance as it was a much lower line than laying with pacman at -250  -160 and -180 at most places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    -250 didnt really make anything on it.. won a whopping $50

    I bet it out here in Vegas I dont have an online account anywhere

    I'll take it i guess

    I preffered the not to go the distance as it was a much lower line than laying with pacman at -250  -160 and -180 at most places.

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