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    Haye v Value In Running.

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    Mack05
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 4:46 PM ET #1

    For guys having a problem with links I will post round by round updates..Good luck all no matter what side your on
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    For guys having a problem with links I will post round by round updates..Good luck all no matter what side your on
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #2

    Man Haye looks sooooo nervous. Compared to when he came in against Enzo Macc. Valuev coming to ring now
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    Man Haye looks sooooo nervous. Compared to when he came in against Enzo Macc. Valuev coming to ring now
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:04 PM ET #3

    know I know y the line change.....the ring size........
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    know I know y the line change.....the ring size........
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:05 PM ET #4

    valuev itd is a way better bet the valuev straight

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    valuev itd is a way better bet the valuev straight

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:06 PM ET #5

    Round 1: Out for the first and the size advantage is just astonishing. It's like a heavyweight against a flyweight. Haye on the outside as Valuev advances ponderously. Haye tries the left jab and gets on his bike. Valuev meanwhile is trying to cut off the ring. Not much action but then Haye tries a big right, and misses. Haye trying to stay out of range, in and out for him at the moment. Valuev as we know has big disadvantage in speed terms, but everything else in his favour. Body shot from Haye to the ribs of Valuev. Into the final 30 seconds of the first and Haye again trying to dart in and out. Tough to score very little to go on..

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    Round 1: Out for the first and the size advantage is just astonishing. It's like a heavyweight against a flyweight. Haye on the outside as Valuev advances ponderously. Haye tries the left jab and gets on his bike. Valuev meanwhile is trying to cut off the ring. Not much action but then Haye tries a big right, and misses. Haye trying to stay out of range, in and out for him at the moment. Valuev as we know has big disadvantage in speed terms, but everything else in his favour. Body shot from Haye to the ribs of Valuev. Into the final 30 seconds of the first and Haye again trying to dart in and out. Tough to score very little to go on..

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:11 PM ET #6

    Round 2: "Sting and be gone" is the message from Adam Booth in the Haye corner between rounds. Same as the first then. Clearly they want to box Valuev, at least in the early stages, and stay out of a brawl, which would seriously sap Haye's strength. Valuev plodding forward and now trying to paw out that jab, but not causing too many problems for Haye early. Valuev misses with the jab as Haye ducks out of the way. Cheeky left hook from Haye tags Valuev. But he's not going for big shots so far - very disciplined early doors. Haye tries a body shot but no great power. Valuev again trying to the cut the ring off, but Haye on the move all the time. Not the greatest five minutes I've ever seen so far. Clearly the Haye team have a very disciplined gameplan, at least in the early going. Fight going exactly as I expected it. Really boring. Haye looks like he is doing enough to win the rounds but Valuev is coming forward and I don't think right now Haye is doing enough to take a Heavyweight belt on foreign soil..
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    Round 2: "Sting and be gone" is the message from Adam Booth in the Haye corner between rounds. Same as the first then. Clearly they want to box Valuev, at least in the early stages, and stay out of a brawl, which would seriously sap Haye's strength. Valuev plodding forward and now trying to paw out that jab, but not causing too many problems for Haye early. Valuev misses with the jab as Haye ducks out of the way. Cheeky left hook from Haye tags Valuev. But he's not going for big shots so far - very disciplined early doors. Haye tries a body shot but no great power. Valuev again trying to the cut the ring off, but Haye on the move all the time. Not the greatest five minutes I've ever seen so far. Clearly the Haye team have a very disciplined gameplan, at least in the early going. Fight going exactly as I expected it. Really boring. Haye looks like he is doing enough to win the rounds but Valuev is coming forward and I don't think right now Haye is doing enough to take a Heavyweight belt on foreign soil..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:15 PM ET #7

    Round 3: "Keep on breaking his heart" is now the Booth message in the corner. Valuev tries to throw a left and a right but Haye is gone before the first even lands. Speed is Haye's one advantage, but is he doing enough in the minds of these three judges? Valuev is trying to make it a fight, but he's not having much joy so far in getting to Haye. Just plodding after him rather than putting any great pressure on. Right hand and a left uppercut from Haye.  Valuev struggling to find the target and getting a little bit frustrated. All single punches from the Russian, no flurries or combinations. Good right from Haye, didn't catch flush and another close round.

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    Round 3: "Keep on breaking his heart" is now the Booth message in the corner. Valuev tries to throw a left and a right but Haye is gone before the first even lands. Speed is Haye's one advantage, but is he doing enough in the minds of these three judges? Valuev is trying to make it a fight, but he's not having much joy so far in getting to Haye. Just plodding after him rather than putting any great pressure on. Right hand and a left uppercut from Haye.  Valuev struggling to find the target and getting a little bit frustrated. All single punches from the Russian, no flurries or combinations. Good right from Haye, didn't catch flush and another close round.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:19 PM ET #8

    Round 4: Good start from Valuev. I can't see how Haye can win this fight with these tactics. He simply is not doing enough. Round 4: Out for the fourth, and one question that could come up tonight is that of Haye's stamina. We may find out if he can go 12 hard rounds. And moving constantly on the back foot will make that even harder. Chants ov "Valuev, Valuev" from the German crowd. Valuev tries a right but it hits the top of Haye's head as the Englishman ducks. Valuev does nothing fast, trying to back Haye in a corner but no real menace in his work as yet. Valuev tries a left with Haye on the ropes, but David has gone by the time it arrives. Valuev jabs at Haye's chest..To me this is Valuev's fight because as ponderous as he looks he is the one coming forward making the fight...Haye looks ok but in truth he is only that..Ok
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    Round 4: Good start from Valuev. I can't see how Haye can win this fight with these tactics. He simply is not doing enough. Round 4: Out for the fourth, and one question that could come up tonight is that of Haye's stamina. We may find out if he can go 12 hard rounds. And moving constantly on the back foot will make that even harder. Chants ov "Valuev, Valuev" from the German crowd. Valuev tries a right but it hits the top of Haye's head as the Englishman ducks. Valuev does nothing fast, trying to back Haye in a corner but no real menace in his work as yet. Valuev tries a left with Haye on the ropes, but David has gone by the time it arrives. Valuev jabs at Haye's chest..To me this is Valuev's fight because as ponderous as he looks he is the one coming forward making the fight...Haye looks ok but in truth he is only that..Ok
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:24 PM ET #9

    Round 5: Out for the fifth and the same pattern. Valuev edging forward and Haye on the back foot boxing smartly. Decent jab from Valuev. How long can Haye continue to box like this of the back foot? Will the stamina hold out? Nice burst from Haye, but while it's eyecatching occasionally he'll need more at some stage. Valuev again plodding forward.  Valuev corners Haye for the first time - body shot and then an uppercut. Neither land with any great venom, but at least a little more menace in those shots. Haye tries to land a right as the bell sounds. This is Valuev's fight now. Haye is sweating badly. I don't think hr will see out the 12 roundsd and if he does he simply is not doing enough to win the fight. Has he forgotten where he is. A total snoozefext so far.
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    Round 5: Out for the fifth and the same pattern. Valuev edging forward and Haye on the back foot boxing smartly. Decent jab from Valuev. How long can Haye continue to box like this of the back foot? Will the stamina hold out? Nice burst from Haye, but while it's eyecatching occasionally he'll need more at some stage. Valuev again plodding forward.  Valuev corners Haye for the first time - body shot and then an uppercut. Neither land with any great venom, but at least a little more menace in those shots. Haye tries to land a right as the bell sounds. This is Valuev's fight now. Haye is sweating badly. I don't think hr will see out the 12 roundsd and if he does he simply is not doing enough to win the fight. Has he forgotten where he is. A total snoozefext so far.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:26 PM ET #10

    whats your score
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    whats your score
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:28 PM ET #11

    Round 6: Almost at the halfway stage now and Haye again boxing off the back foot with a steely resolve and focus. As disciplined as I've ever seen him. And that's definitely needed here. The second half of this fight is the part to worry about - Haye having to work fairly hard to stay out of range. Comes in with a right to the head, and then a body shot. Valuev pins him in a corner, but only momentarily. Haye on his bike very quickly. Good left hook from Haye, but none of those shots from the Englishman have dented Valuev as yet. Or at least not outwardly. Valuev still plodding, still jabbing - now misses with a wild right. Arthur Abraham smiles wrly at ringside - wonder how he's scoring this one?. Quite frankly Haye is scared sh!tless. I don't think he believes he can win this fight now and I am begining to doubt if he ever did. He is all talk no substance. He is straight back to Crusier after this, he aint no heavyweight and he certainly aint the saviour. On the back foot all night long and not being impressive doing so.
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    Round 6: Almost at the halfway stage now and Haye again boxing off the back foot with a steely resolve and focus. As disciplined as I've ever seen him. And that's definitely needed here. The second half of this fight is the part to worry about - Haye having to work fairly hard to stay out of range. Comes in with a right to the head, and then a body shot. Valuev pins him in a corner, but only momentarily. Haye on his bike very quickly. Good left hook from Haye, but none of those shots from the Englishman have dented Valuev as yet. Or at least not outwardly. Valuev still plodding, still jabbing - now misses with a wild right. Arthur Abraham smiles wrly at ringside - wonder how he's scoring this one?. Quite frankly Haye is scared sh!tless. I don't think he believes he can win this fight now and I am begining to doubt if he ever did. He is all talk no substance. He is straight back to Crusier after this, he aint no heavyweight and he certainly aint the saviour. On the back foot all night long and not being impressive doing so.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:29 PM ET #12

    Money to be honest its maybe 3-3 but in Germany more like 5-1. Haye is just not impressing here
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    Money to be honest its maybe 3-3 but in Germany more like 5-1. Haye is just not impressing here
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #13

    I see it 4-3 haye as a germany score and personal i have it 5-2 haye....but i wouldnt be surprised if it ended up 5-2 valuev.......haye isnt doing anything great but he is landing at a higher percentage and has landed the only power punches so far....valeuv is swinging and missing.......good luck im out this fight is way too boring

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    I see it 4-3 haye as a germany score and personal i have it 5-2 haye....but i wouldnt be surprised if it ended up 5-2 valuev.......haye isnt doing anything great but he is landing at a higher percentage and has landed the only power punches so far....valeuv is swinging and missing.......good luck im out this fight is way too boring

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #14

    Round 7: Into the second half of this WBA heavyweight title fight, Valuev continues to move forward all the time, but he doesn't appear to have a great deal of power in those fists. They've been connecting with thin air for most of the evening so far to be fair. At the moment you'd have to say fatigue is the biggest fear for Haye, along with the fear that the judges might be seeing this one very differently to the way his corner is. Left hook from Haye, swift right counter from Valuev. First sign of speed from the Russian - hidden depths maybe. Valuev pins Haye in the corner, and Haye lands a counter. Valuev shakes his head. Bell goes. Haye's corner is very happy. They think he is doing well. I can't agree with that

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    Round 7: Into the second half of this WBA heavyweight title fight, Valuev continues to move forward all the time, but he doesn't appear to have a great deal of power in those fists. They've been connecting with thin air for most of the evening so far to be fair. At the moment you'd have to say fatigue is the biggest fear for Haye, along with the fear that the judges might be seeing this one very differently to the way his corner is. Left hook from Haye, swift right counter from Valuev. First sign of speed from the Russian - hidden depths maybe. Valuev pins Haye in the corner, and Haye lands a counter. Valuev shakes his head. Bell goes. Haye's corner is very happy. They think he is doing well. I can't agree with that

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:34 PM ET #15

    worst fight Ive ever witnessed

    BORING!!!!!

    Very close. Haye has a few nice flurries but overall Valuev is controlling more of the fight.

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    worst fight Ive ever witnessed

    BORING!!!!!

    Very close. Haye has a few nice flurries but overall Valuev is controlling more of the fight.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:35 PM ET #16

    Round 8: Booth now telling Haye not to get lazy with his defence. Fifteen minutes remaining here. Hit and run tactics from Haye. Hardly a great spectacle here!!! and not the Haye we normally see. Then again, this is no normal opponent. Valuev tries to jab, Haye moves out of range. Valuev misses with a wild left hook as Haye sways out of range again. Left by Haye on the way out tags Valuev. Now a jab from Haye. And then he's back out again, on his toes. Much better from haye that round. Have no idea why he didnt box like that from the start. On the back foot but he made the Russian look stupid and clumsy and landed some good shots in the meantime.
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    Round 8: Booth now telling Haye not to get lazy with his defence. Fifteen minutes remaining here. Hit and run tactics from Haye. Hardly a great spectacle here!!! and not the Haye we normally see. Then again, this is no normal opponent. Valuev tries to jab, Haye moves out of range. Valuev misses with a wild left hook as Haye sways out of range again. Left by Haye on the way out tags Valuev. Now a jab from Haye. And then he's back out again, on his toes. Much better from haye that round. Have no idea why he didnt box like that from the start. On the back foot but he made the Russian look stupid and clumsy and landed some good shots in the meantime.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:37 PM ET #17

    MACK thanks for the round by round been following you throughout the fight thanks bro!
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    MACK thanks for the round by round been following you throughout the fight thanks bro!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:40 PM ET #18

    Round 9: Valuev looked a little tired between round - will he be the first to run out of gas? Haye definitely better in that last session. A repeat here would be very welcome just now for Haye Backers. Ponderous and slow the Russian. Haye on the back foot and moving. Same pattern every round - will the judges like Haye's tactics? Haye misses with a right. Valuev too slow as the Englishman lands with another potshot. Haye is gone before he can even load up. Good combination from Haye, ending with a lovely right that did connect. Valuev totally befuddled by Haye's speed there. Definitely Haye's round so far IMHO. Valuev still coming forward but not really threatening Haye in any way.

    Listen this fight is exactly what my writeup said it would be. One of thee worst in heavweight history. Valuev is so poor and Haye is a Chicken with a glass jaw. Awful stuff.. I now have Haye ahead by a round but honestly this could be anything

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    Round 9: Valuev looked a little tired between round - will he be the first to run out of gas? Haye definitely better in that last session. A repeat here would be very welcome just now for Haye Backers. Ponderous and slow the Russian. Haye on the back foot and moving. Same pattern every round - will the judges like Haye's tactics? Haye misses with a right. Valuev too slow as the Englishman lands with another potshot. Haye is gone before he can even load up. Good combination from Haye, ending with a lovely right that did connect. Valuev totally befuddled by Haye's speed there. Definitely Haye's round so far IMHO. Valuev still coming forward but not really threatening Haye in any way.

    Listen this fight is exactly what my writeup said it would be. One of thee worst in heavweight history. Valuev is so poor and Haye is a Chicken with a glass jaw. Awful stuff.. I now have Haye ahead by a round but honestly this could be anything

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:43 PM ET #19

    Round 10: Just nine minutes now left in this WBA heavyweight title fight. Valuev's trainer is dancing and boxing in the corner - unfortunately he can't go out there and do it for his man. Valuev still throwing single shots, but that really won't give Haye any trouble. Valuev throws a right as Haye tries to get out of the corner. Haye comes back with a decent body shot. Boxing confidently, making Valuev very one-dimensional, which he is.  Right hand from Haye, blocked by Valuev. The Russian trying to impose himself as the bell goes. I can't score this rubbish

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    Round 10: Just nine minutes now left in this WBA heavyweight title fight. Valuev's trainer is dancing and boxing in the corner - unfortunately he can't go out there and do it for his man. Valuev still throwing single shots, but that really won't give Haye any trouble. Valuev throws a right as Haye tries to get out of the corner. Haye comes back with a decent body shot. Boxing confidently, making Valuev very one-dimensional, which he is.  Right hand from Haye, blocked by Valuev. The Russian trying to impose himself as the bell goes. I can't score this rubbish

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #20

    In game betting has Valuev winning.
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    In game betting has Valuev winning.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:46 PM ET #21

    Valuev won that last round
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    Valuev won that last round
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:46 PM ET #22

    Haye is going to need a KO here in the 12th. It's that simple.
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    Haye is going to need a KO here in the 12th. It's that simple.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:46 PM ET #23

    This fight is a joke.
    2 clowns
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    This fight is a joke.
    2 clowns
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:47 PM ET #24

    Round 11: Booth now telling Haye that Valuev "will get desperate", and there's no sense of panic whatsoever in the corner. Out for the penultimate round. That predictable pattern. Valuev stalking, or plodding, and Haye boxing off the back foot. Valuev lands with a right, and Haye replies in kind. Valuev dancing on the spot, trying to keep moving. Not much for the crowd to get excited about - there hasn't been all night. I think Haye is now winning the fight but this is like Dirrell/Froch and for me Dirrell did alot more!! For me Haye has not done enough to win on German soil. I could be wrong
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    Round 11: Booth now telling Haye that Valuev "will get desperate", and there's no sense of panic whatsoever in the corner. Out for the penultimate round. That predictable pattern. Valuev stalking, or plodding, and Haye boxing off the back foot. Valuev lands with a right, and Haye replies in kind. Valuev dancing on the spot, trying to keep moving. Not much for the crowd to get excited about - there hasn't been all night. I think Haye is now winning the fight but this is like Dirrell/Froch and for me Dirrell did alot more!! For me Haye has not done enough to win on German soil. I could be wrong
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 5:50 PM ET #25

    what a joke fight

    feel sorry for anyone that paid for that junk

    Very hard to call

    Haye prolly gets decision even though he wasnt impressive at all

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    what a joke fight

    feel sorry for anyone that paid for that junk

    Very hard to call

    Haye prolly gets decision even though he wasnt impressive at all

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