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#1
What will the line be on this fight? Froch - 385
Froch vs Glen Johnson line?
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#7
I see Froch about -285 or so.. close to 3 to 1 ...
While I'm a Glen Johnson fan, I can't see him winning this fight in any fashion.
Don't go by Allan Green he's a tomato can.
We all know Glen Johnson will bring it 1000% not one person on here can say he's not a true warrior, but honestly he doesn't have a chance in this one.
That is saying a lot because I'm one of Glen Johnson's biggest supporters.
-285 or even -300 seems reasonable.
While I'm a Glen Johnson fan, I can't see him winning this fight in any fashion.
Don't go by Allan Green he's a tomato can.
We all know Glen Johnson will bring it 1000% not one person on here can say he's not a true warrior, but honestly he doesn't have a chance in this one.
That is saying a lot because I'm one of Glen Johnson's biggest supporters.
-285 or even -300 seems reasonable.
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#9
Johnson walked down much superior boxers to Froch, like Tarver, Dawson etc. Froch gets dragged into dog fights, has average footwork, and can be hit by right hands all day like Kessler showed. Lets not forget Jermain Taylor was giving Froch the business before folding at the end. People are taking too much from the AA win. I am big on Froch, and always liked what he brought to the table. But Johnson has a real chance, and I hope the line is close to where you all are saying.
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#10
That was years back Glen Johnson doesn't have the stamina to do that for a long period of time.
I love the guy as a fighter but asking someone his age to dip to 168 and sustain a pace that he is USED to fighting.
Big notation on the USED. Johnson was able to go 12 rounds with relentless pressure back then.
Even against Yusef Mack who he demolished he was losing stream. He was dead tired by round 4 against Tarvaris Cloud he went the distance on pure will.
Allan Green is a bum you take it to Green.. he becomes a no one, he fit right into Johnson's style of fighting.
I pray Johnson doesn't get hurt and retires after this fight. He's a good man and great for the sport, but there comes a time when you have to hang em up.
Collect this Pay check Glen Johnson.. and walk away while you have your marbles you've given us many great fights!
I love the guy as a fighter but asking someone his age to dip to 168 and sustain a pace that he is USED to fighting.
Big notation on the USED. Johnson was able to go 12 rounds with relentless pressure back then.
Even against Yusef Mack who he demolished he was losing stream. He was dead tired by round 4 against Tarvaris Cloud he went the distance on pure will.
Allan Green is a bum you take it to Green.. he becomes a no one, he fit right into Johnson's style of fighting.
I pray Johnson doesn't get hurt and retires after this fight. He's a good man and great for the sport, but there comes a time when you have to hang em up.
Collect this Pay check Glen Johnson.. and walk away while you have your marbles you've given us many great fights!
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#13
Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:
Fight's in the UK.
Fight's in the UK.
Is it? I know when the Super 6 was conceived, the finals and semis were supposed to be in the US. I know Froch's people are trying to secure a site in the UK and give Johnson more money, but I hadn't heard that it was a done deal yet.
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#14
5Dimes is showing a UK venue. I'd be very surprised if the fight was anywhere else. Froch was pissing and moaning about the last fight not being in the U.K. Hard to imagine this one wont be there against a guy who has little bargaining power in that he came to the Super 6 party late. Cant see how Johnson wins the fight in the U.K. He must have a knockout and Froch will box accordingly.
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#15
Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:
Will they call you at home?Is it? I know when the Super 6 was conceived, the finals and semis were supposed to be in the US. I know Froch's people are trying to secure a site in the UK and give Johnson more money, but I hadn't heard that it was a done deal yet.
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#17
Quote Originally Posted by PULLA:
Johnson walked down much superior boxers to Froch, like Tarver, Dawson etc. Froch gets dragged into dog fights, has average footwork, and can be hit by right hands all day like Kessler showed. Lets not forget Jermain Taylor was giving Froch the business before folding at the end. People are taking too much from the AA win. I am big on Froch, and always liked what he brought to the table. But Johnson has a real chance, and I hope the line is close to where you all are saying.
Johnson walked down much superior boxers to Froch, like Tarver, Dawson etc. Froch gets dragged into dog fights, has average footwork, and can be hit by right hands all day like Kessler showed. Lets not forget Jermain Taylor was giving Froch the business before folding at the end. People are taking too much from the AA win. I am big on Froch, and always liked what he brought to the table. But Johnson has a real chance, and I hope the line is close to where you all are saying.
That would be the Dawson that Pascal beat, easily.
Oh, guess who Pascal's only loss came against = Froch.
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#18
Watch Carl Froch Vs Glen Johnson Live Streaming Free here. In the semi finals of the super six, Carl The Cobra Froch, will be taking on the elder statesman, The road Warrior Glen Johnson for the coveted place in the final.
https://sportsneed.com/carl-froch-vs-glen-johnson-live-stream-online-boxing/
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#19
Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:
That was years back Glen Johnson doesn't have the stamina to do that for a long period of time.
I love the guy as a fighter but asking someone his age to dip to 168 and sustain a pace that he is USED to fighting.
Big notation on the USED. Johnson was able to go 12 rounds with relentless pressure back then.
Even against Yusef Mack who he demolished he was losing stream. He was dead tired by round 4 against Tarvaris Cloud he went the distance on pure will.
Allan Green is a bum you take it to Green.. he becomes a no one, he fit right into Johnson's style of fighting.
I pray Johnson doesn't get hurt and retires after this fight. He's a good man and great for the sport, but there comes a time when you have to hang em up.
Collect this Pay check Glen Johnson.. and walk away while you have your marbles you've given us many great fights!
That was years back Glen Johnson doesn't have the stamina to do that for a long period of time.
I love the guy as a fighter but asking someone his age to dip to 168 and sustain a pace that he is USED to fighting.
Big notation on the USED. Johnson was able to go 12 rounds with relentless pressure back then.
Even against Yusef Mack who he demolished he was losing stream. He was dead tired by round 4 against Tarvaris Cloud he went the distance on pure will.
Allan Green is a bum you take it to Green.. he becomes a no one, he fit right into Johnson's style of fighting.
I pray Johnson doesn't get hurt and retires after this fight. He's a good man and great for the sport, but there comes a time when you have to hang em up.
Collect this Pay check Glen Johnson.. and walk away while you have your marbles you've given us many great fights!
What are you talking about? Cloud is a monster physically and hits like a truck. Im not shocked Glenn was tired giving the style he fights. He was tangling with someone stronger than he at 175..
Froch is a lean 168lber, with mediocre footwork and handspeed and he doesnt hit as hard a Cloud..
Dawson is 5 times the boxer Froch is when it comes to movement, footwork, handspeed, and throwing fast combos and he gave Dawson everything he can handle in that first fight.. 2nd fight Dawson fought much smarter..
Basically Im saying Froch isnt capable of outboxing Johnson IMO
I do think he has the clear advantage on the outside as he is tall with a good jab, but I just dont see him beeing good enough to keep Johnson off of him.. I think after 2-3 rounds Johnson will be in rhythm and wear Froch down with constant pressure.. Glenn is gonna make Froch fight at a pace he isnt used to.. This fight not being in Froch backyard increases Glenns chances greatly..
Johnson being +305 is a joke even if he loses.. Glen should be +160 or so.. This has a Johnson +305 straddled with a Froch Decision.. Those are the 2 likely outcomes, maybe throw a little on a draw +3000
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#20
my book has it as Froch -450 and Johnson +325 with the over under being 9.5 rounds and the over as a heavy favorite of -350.
I think there is great value with Johnson at +325 if you are up for the week unless your book has a prop bet of Froch by decision. Both fighters have great chins and Johnson is a complete warrior in the ring so I can see a close match with Froch outboxing Johnson for the decision. I cannot see laying -450 on Froch and cannot seeing laying -350 on the over when there can be a head butt that ends the fight
I think there is great value with Johnson at +325 if you are up for the week unless your book has a prop bet of Froch by decision. Both fighters have great chins and Johnson is a complete warrior in the ring so I can see a close match with Froch outboxing Johnson for the decision. I cannot see laying -450 on Froch and cannot seeing laying -350 on the over when there can be a head butt that ends the fight
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#21
without a stoppage for cuts this should go the distance.
Unless I am reading this wrong ( Like that hasn't happened before ) Johnson should finally show his age here.
Kind of liking the over more than the Froch side. Glen is so overdue for a favorable decision if it came down to the judges.
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#22
Quote Originally Posted by PULLA:
Johnson walked down much superior boxers to Froch, like Tarver, Dawson etc. Froch gets dragged into dog fights, has average footwork, and can be hit by right hands all day like Kessler showed. Lets not forget Jermain Taylor was giving Froch the business before folding at the end. People are taking too much from the AA win. I am big on Froch, and always liked what he brought to the table. But Johnson has a real chance, and I hope the line is close to where you all are saying.
Johnson walked down much superior boxers to Froch, like Tarver, Dawson etc. Froch gets dragged into dog fights, has average footwork, and can be hit by right hands all day like Kessler showed. Lets not forget Jermain Taylor was giving Froch the business before folding at the end. People are taking too much from the AA win. I am big on Froch, and always liked what he brought to the table. But Johnson has a real chance, and I hope the line is close to where you all are saying.
Johnson didn't look that great in his last fight. HE did win by KO but asking someone over 40 to drop down in weight to fight someone as strong as Froch is trouble. I see Froch winning this by decision or possible ref stoppage.
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#23
Watch Carl Froch Vs Glen Johnson Live Streaming Free here. In the semi finals of the super six, Carl The Cobra Froch, will be taking on the elder statesman, The road Warrior Glen Johnson for the coveted place in the final.
https://sportsneed.com/carl-froch-vs-glen-johnson-live-stream-online-boxing/
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#24
Quote Originally Posted by TheColorPurple:
What are you talking about? Cloud is a monster physically and hits like a truck. Im not shocked Glenn was tired giving the style he fights. He was tangling with someone stronger than he at 175..
Froch is a lean 168lber, with mediocre footwork and handspeed and he doesnt hit as hard a Cloud..
Dawson is 5 times the boxer Froch is when it comes to movement, footwork, handspeed, and throwing fast combos and he gave Dawson everything he can handle in that first fight.. 2nd fight Dawson fought much smarter..
Basically Im saying Froch isnt capable of outboxing Johnson IMO
I do think he has the clear advantage on the outside as he is tall with a good jab, but I just dont see him beeing good enough to keep Johnson off of him.. I think after 2-3 rounds Johnson will be in rhythm and wear Froch down with constant pressure.. Glenn is gonna make Froch fight at a pace he isnt used to.. This fight not being in Froch backyard increases Glenns chances greatly..
Johnson being +305 is a joke even if he loses.. Glen should be +160 or so.. This has a Johnson +305 straddled with a Froch Decision.. Those are the 2 likely outcomes, maybe throw a little on a draw +3000
i agree frock isn't going to keep johnson off him. i don't think frock will stay on the outside either. as he tires he will be standing more and more with glen..will get interesting. i'll take the +300
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