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    Donkey Plays for the Week (WAR Hopkins)

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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2008 - 6:51 PM ET #1

    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    2007 Results: +42.25 units (+$4,225)
    Last Week: +10.23 units (+$1,023)
    2008 to Date: -13.53 units (-$1,353)

    I figured I would keep the title the same since it was a good omen last week.  Not near the action of last week, but it should be a good weekend of boxing.

    Tonight
    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins
    I thought Jenkins looked pretty terrible against Fields, he really didn't throw anything after the first couple of rounds.  I've only see Chazz a couple of times and he is a bit sloppy, but he does have some pop.  I thought on his last stint on the deuce he could have gotten his guy out of there earlier if he would have gone to the body and not head hunted so much.  Worth a small play in my mind at + odds, I saw it keep creep up at 5dimes and had to grab a small stake.

    Saturday
    1 unit on Hopkins (+250) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+230) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+220) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins by decision (+325) (Greek version)
    1.15 units on Hopkins +9.5 points handicap (-115)
    I have typed a bunch on this fight here what i wrote today in the thread from last week.....
    I just think the numbers on Hopkins are not indicative of how close this fight will be. I bet Calzaghe in his two closest fights odds wise against Lacy and Kessler so there is no Calzaghe hate here;  I just think there are some factors here that Hopkins has going for him.  Could Calzaghe win this fight on activity, yes, but I think Hopkins will negate his activity by controlling the distance and making the fight a bit sloppy.  I think Hopkins will land a bunch of straight counter rights inside Joe's wide punches and if the judges are truly judging "effective" aggressiveness this decision should be razor thin.  Also, don't ever underestimate GBP's backing of Hopkins and Calzaghe fighting outside of the friendly confines of the UK.  Also, I like the fact that Hopkins is working with Shilstone again if anything for the effect it should have on him mentally.  I may be off here, but that's my reasoning.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    2007 Results: +42.25 units (+$4,225)
    Last Week: +10.23 units (+$1,023)
    2008 to Date: -13.53 units (-$1,353)

    I figured I would keep the title the same since it was a good omen last week.  Not near the action of last week, but it should be a good weekend of boxing.

    Tonight
    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins
    I thought Jenkins looked pretty terrible against Fields, he really didn't throw anything after the first couple of rounds.  I've only see Chazz a couple of times and he is a bit sloppy, but he does have some pop.  I thought on his last stint on the deuce he could have gotten his guy out of there earlier if he would have gone to the body and not head hunted so much.  Worth a small play in my mind at + odds, I saw it keep creep up at 5dimes and had to grab a small stake.

    Saturday
    1 unit on Hopkins (+250) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+230) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+220) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins by decision (+325) (Greek version)
    1.15 units on Hopkins +9.5 points handicap (-115)
    I have typed a bunch on this fight here what i wrote today in the thread from last week.....
    I just think the numbers on Hopkins are not indicative of how close this fight will be. I bet Calzaghe in his two closest fights odds wise against Lacy and Kessler so there is no Calzaghe hate here;  I just think there are some factors here that Hopkins has going for him.  Could Calzaghe win this fight on activity, yes, but I think Hopkins will negate his activity by controlling the distance and making the fight a bit sloppy.  I think Hopkins will land a bunch of straight counter rights inside Joe's wide punches and if the judges are truly judging "effective" aggressiveness this decision should be razor thin.  Also, don't ever underestimate GBP's backing of Hopkins and Calzaghe fighting outside of the friendly confines of the UK.  Also, I like the fact that Hopkins is working with Shilstone again if anything for the effect it should have on him mentally.  I may be off here, but that's my reasoning.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2008 - 7:14 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2008 - 10:35 AM ET #3

    Witherspoon: 
    And Joe Tessitore said something about a possible fight with Kevin Johnson: 

    These guys epitomize the problems with the heavyweight division.  A real heavyweight puncher would destroy either one, yet they're so protected that it takes an eternity for them to be exposed.


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    Witherspoon: 
    And Joe Tessitore said something about a possible fight with Kevin Johnson: 

    These guys epitomize the problems with the heavyweight division.  A real heavyweight puncher would destroy either one, yet they're so protected that it takes an eternity for them to be exposed.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2008 - 1:08 PM ET #4

    I like Hopkins to win a razor thin decision. Like you said, he will control the distance therefore control the action in the fight. I believe this is Calzaghe's first fight at 175, so maybe he won't be as fast or maybe be a bit sloppy. You can bit Hopkins will take advantage of every mistake. Hopkins will make this a rough fight with his "dirty" tactics. Judging by the pictures, Hopkins looks significantly bigger than Calzaghe at this wait. BOL but I really like Hopkins to win this.
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    I like Hopkins to win a razor thin decision. Like you said, he will control the distance therefore control the action in the fight. I believe this is Calzaghe's first fight at 175, so maybe he won't be as fast or maybe be a bit sloppy. You can bit Hopkins will take advantage of every mistake. Hopkins will make this a rough fight with his "dirty" tactics. Judging by the pictures, Hopkins looks significantly bigger than Calzaghe at this wait. BOL but I really like Hopkins to win this.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Witherspoon: 
    And Joe Tessitore said something about a possible fight with Kevin Johnson: 

    These guys epitomize the problems with the heavyweight division.  A real heavyweight puncher would destroy either one, yet they're so protected that it takes an eternity for them to be exposed.




    Yep, Johnson can talk, but he doesn't seem to want to throw much other than the jab.  I didn't see the Witherspoon fight because of ESPN2's insistence of shoving baseball down our throat, I had to hit the bed.  Don't get me wrong I perfectly understand staying with the Yankees-Sox game, but why follow with baseball tonight when boxing was supposed to have been on an hour ago?  Witherspoon was pretty active for a heavy his last time out on the deuce, I thought that would a be a key in getting Jenkins out of there early.  Guess not.

    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins


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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:

    Witherspoon: 
    And Joe Tessitore said something about a possible fight with Kevin Johnson: 

    These guys epitomize the problems with the heavyweight division.  A real heavyweight puncher would destroy either one, yet they're so protected that it takes an eternity for them to be exposed.




    Yep, Johnson can talk, but he doesn't seem to want to throw much other than the jab.  I didn't see the Witherspoon fight because of ESPN2's insistence of shoving baseball down our throat, I had to hit the bed.  Don't get me wrong I perfectly understand staying with the Yankees-Sox game, but why follow with baseball tonight when boxing was supposed to have been on an hour ago?  Witherspoon was pretty active for a heavy his last time out on the deuce, I thought that would a be a key in getting Jenkins out of there early.  Guess not.

    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins


     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #6

    Added two more plays.....

    1.75 units on under 11.5 rounds in Diaconu-Henry (-115)
    Pretty big step up in class for Henry leaving the Texas/Louisiana circuit and heading to Romania to face Diaconu.  I have watched a few clips of Henry on youtube in the past and he does appear to have some skill, but he isn't necessarily a mover.  Diaconu will bring pressure and load up; I have a feeling Henry will be there to be hit.  Also, I think it's an ominous sign that he was dropped by Ettiene Whitaker.  Of course Henry appears to have some pop also and I remember reading an article a while back that Diaconu got KO'd pretty brutally by a Cuban when he was in the Olympics, so the under covers that.

    .10 of a unit on the Draw (+2000) in Hopkins-Calzaghe
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    Added two more plays.....

    1.75 units on under 11.5 rounds in Diaconu-Henry (-115)
    Pretty big step up in class for Henry leaving the Texas/Louisiana circuit and heading to Romania to face Diaconu.  I have watched a few clips of Henry on youtube in the past and he does appear to have some skill, but he isn't necessarily a mover.  Diaconu will bring pressure and load up; I have a feeling Henry will be there to be hit.  Also, I think it's an ominous sign that he was dropped by Ettiene Whitaker.  Of course Henry appears to have some pop also and I remember reading an article a while back that Diaconu got KO'd pretty brutally by a Cuban when he was in the Olympics, so the under covers that.

    .10 of a unit on the Draw (+2000) in Hopkins-Calzaghe
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 1:46 PM ET #7

    Good luck on that under I see value in B-Hop but cant go against Joe Cal.-260 fucking sucks 
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    Good luck on that under I see value in B-Hop but cant go against Joe Cal.-260 fucking sucks 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 2:58 PM ET #8

    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.
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    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 7:40 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.

    Have you watched Hopkins since the Taylor fights? He looks much better at 175. He won't need a favorable decision to beat Calzaghe, he will frustrate him with his defense all night. Calzaghe will throw his patented slapping flurries and get countered with straight rights which will land flush. Judges will notice the punches that land flush not the glancing blows by Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.

    Have you watched Hopkins since the Taylor fights? He looks much better at 175. He won't need a favorable decision to beat Calzaghe, he will frustrate him with his defense all night. Calzaghe will throw his patented slapping flurries and get countered with straight rights which will land flush. Judges will notice the punches that land flush not the glancing blows by Joe.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 9:42 PM ET #10

    I saw Hopkins beat an overrated, drained light heavyweight, who didn't throw punches, and an out of shape junior middleweight, who stopped fighting with a cut over his eye. Neither performance would I classify as looking better. They were both much better matchmaking than this fight is for him. Calzaghe punches and gets out of the way, so no I don't see Bernard controlling the fight with counter punching.
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    I saw Hopkins beat an overrated, drained light heavyweight, who didn't throw punches, and an out of shape junior middleweight, who stopped fighting with a cut over his eye. Neither performance would I classify as looking better. They were both much better matchmaking than this fight is for him. Calzaghe punches and gets out of the way, so no I don't see Bernard controlling the fight with counter punching.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2008 - 9:47 PM ET #11

    best of luck it should be a cracker
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    best of luck it should be a cracker
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 4:07 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    2007 Results: +42.25 units (+$4,225)
    Last Week: +10.23 units (+$1,023)
    2008 to Date: -13.53 units (-$1,353)

    I figured I would keep the title the same since it was a good omen last week.  Not near the action of last week, but it should be a good weekend of boxing.

    Tonight
    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins
    I thought Jenkins looked pretty terrible against Fields, he really didn't throw anything after the first couple of rounds.  I've only see Chazz a couple of times and he is a bit sloppy, but he does have some pop.  I thought on his last stint on the deuce he could have gotten his guy out of there earlier if he would have gone to the body and not head hunted so much.  Worth a small play in my mind at + odds, I saw it keep creep up at 5dimes and had to grab a small stake.

    Saturday
    1 unit on Hopkins (+250) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+230) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+220) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins by decision (+325) (Greek version)
    1.15 units on Hopkins +9.5 points handicap (-115)
    I have typed a bunch on this fight here what i wrote today in the thread from last week.....
    I just think the numbers on Hopkins are not indicative of how close this fight will be. I bet Calzaghe in his two closest fights odds wise against Lacy and Kessler so there is no Calzaghe hate here;  I just think there are some factors here that Hopkins has going for him.  Could Calzaghe win this fight on activity, yes, but I think Hopkins will negate his activity by controlling the distance and making the fight a bit sloppy.  I think Hopkins will land a bunch of straight counter rights inside Joe's wide punches and if the judges are truly judging "effective" aggressiveness this decision should be razor thin.  Also, don't ever underestimate GBP's backing of Hopkins and Calzaghe fighting outside of the friendly confines of the UK.  Also, I like the fact that Hopkins is working with Shilstone again if anything for the effect it should have on him mentally.  I may be off here, but that's my reasoning.

     

    I took into account that GBP issue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    2007 Results: +42.25 units (+$4,225)
    Last Week: +10.23 units (+$1,023)
    2008 to Date: -13.53 units (-$1,353)

    I figured I would keep the title the same since it was a good omen last week.  Not near the action of last week, but it should be a good weekend of boxing.

    Tonight
    .50 of a unit on under 6.5 (+165) in Witherspoon-Jenkins
    I thought Jenkins looked pretty terrible against Fields, he really didn't throw anything after the first couple of rounds.  I've only see Chazz a couple of times and he is a bit sloppy, but he does have some pop.  I thought on his last stint on the deuce he could have gotten his guy out of there earlier if he would have gone to the body and not head hunted so much.  Worth a small play in my mind at + odds, I saw it keep creep up at 5dimes and had to grab a small stake.

    Saturday
    1 unit on Hopkins (+250) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+230) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins (+220) vs Calzaghe
    .50 of a unit on Hopkins by decision (+325) (Greek version)
    1.15 units on Hopkins +9.5 points handicap (-115)
    I have typed a bunch on this fight here what i wrote today in the thread from last week.....
    I just think the numbers on Hopkins are not indicative of how close this fight will be. I bet Calzaghe in his two closest fights odds wise against Lacy and Kessler so there is no Calzaghe hate here;  I just think there are some factors here that Hopkins has going for him.  Could Calzaghe win this fight on activity, yes, but I think Hopkins will negate his activity by controlling the distance and making the fight a bit sloppy.  I think Hopkins will land a bunch of straight counter rights inside Joe's wide punches and if the judges are truly judging "effective" aggressiveness this decision should be razor thin.  Also, don't ever underestimate GBP's backing of Hopkins and Calzaghe fighting outside of the friendly confines of the UK.  Also, I like the fact that Hopkins is working with Shilstone again if anything for the effect it should have on him mentally.  I may be off here, but that's my reasoning.

     

    I took into account that GBP issue!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 10:39 AM ET #13

    Hi.

    My play is BHhop as well, but indirectly. I played the prop 'Leader after 3 rounds loses fight or draw'. Calzaghe will almost certainly start faster and win the first rounds on volume alone, leaving me with +270 for Hop. If by some miracle Hop wins 2 out of 3, then I have +270 on Calzaghe, which is fine by me!

    This fight's been covered thoroughly, a source I use is confident in backing Hop, with an extensive write-up. I like the Mackie Shilstone pairing again, and I like the intangibles. Hopkins didn't have to take this fight, he took a long time off and waited extensively before making a decision to accept this. He is too proud and legacy-conscious to accept a fight he can't win, he may not actually win, but I like his chances as a dog bet. I don't think it's just about the money here, his position at GBP is lucrative and there are easier paydays out there ie RJ.

    Good luck guys

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    Hi.

    My play is BHhop as well, but indirectly. I played the prop 'Leader after 3 rounds loses fight or draw'. Calzaghe will almost certainly start faster and win the first rounds on volume alone, leaving me with +270 for Hop. If by some miracle Hop wins 2 out of 3, then I have +270 on Calzaghe, which is fine by me!

    This fight's been covered thoroughly, a source I use is confident in backing Hop, with an extensive write-up. I like the Mackie Shilstone pairing again, and I like the intangibles. Hopkins didn't have to take this fight, he took a long time off and waited extensively before making a decision to accept this. He is too proud and legacy-conscious to accept a fight he can't win, he may not actually win, but I like his chances as a dog bet. I don't think it's just about the money here, his position at GBP is lucrative and there are easier paydays out there ie RJ.

    Good luck guys

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    I saw Hopkins beat an overrated, drained light heavyweight, who didn't throw punches, and an out of shape junior middleweight, who stopped fighting with a cut over his eye. Neither performance would I classify as looking better. They were both much better matchmaking than this fight is for him. Calzaghe punches and gets out of the way, so no I don't see Bernard controlling the fight with counter punching.

    Calzaghe is prime to be caught by straight right hand counters all night. You will see. He carries his hands much too low at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    I saw Hopkins beat an overrated, drained light heavyweight, who didn't throw punches, and an out of shape junior middleweight, who stopped fighting with a cut over his eye. Neither performance would I classify as looking better. They were both much better matchmaking than this fight is for him. Calzaghe punches and gets out of the way, so no I don't see Bernard controlling the fight with counter punching.

    Calzaghe is prime to be caught by straight right hand counters all night. You will see. He carries his hands much too low at times.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.


    Yep, we will just have to agree to disagree.  I would say good luck, but you know how that goes.  I'll see you here after the fight win or lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    We're just not going to be on the same side of this one.  I took Calzaghe at -230 earlier this week, and I'll add more if I can get that number again. I'm also looking at a decision prop at near even money. I can understand a value play on the Hopkins decision prop, but I would be very surprised if Hopkins were to win. One thing I would caution against though is believing that the judges will favor his style, or even that Golden Boy will protect him. They co-promoted his fights with Jermain, neither of which I thought he lost, and the judges did him no favors. Good luck anyways.


    Yep, we will just have to agree to disagree.  I would say good luck, but you know how that goes.  I'll see you here after the fight win or lose.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 8:21 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by N_J:

    Hi.

    My play is BHhop as well, but indirectly. I played the prop 'Leader after 3 rounds loses fight or draw'. Calzaghe will almost certainly start faster and win the first rounds on volume alone, leaving me with +270 for Hop. If by some miracle Hop wins 2 out of 3, then I have +270 on Calzaghe, which is fine by me!

    This fight's been covered thoroughly, a source I use is confident in backing Hop, with an extensive write-up. I like the Mackie Shilstone pairing again, and I like the intangibles. Hopkins didn't have to take this fight, he took a long time off and waited extensively before making a decision to accept this. He is too proud and legacy-conscious to accept a fight he can't win, he may not actually win, but I like his chances as a dog bet. I don't think it's just about the money here, his position at GBP is lucrative and there are easier paydays out there ie RJ.

    Good luck guys



    Interesting play, makes sense.  You forgot to factor in that Lederman's card is usually wrong so he may even have the wrong guy ahead at that point; definitely a plus in your favor.  I don't know if I have ever played one of those Lederman props that 5dimes offers, I can't stand the guy.  Good luck.

    Yep, agree on the Shilstone point; as I said if anything it just helps B-Hop mentally.  I think this fight is very very close, I will be the first to admit if I am wrong.  I definitely don't see laying -250ish on Joe SU.  If B-Hop was around even would I be backing him?  No, but at these odds YES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N_J:

    Hi.

    My play is BHhop as well, but indirectly. I played the prop 'Leader after 3 rounds loses fight or draw'. Calzaghe will almost certainly start faster and win the first rounds on volume alone, leaving me with +270 for Hop. If by some miracle Hop wins 2 out of 3, then I have +270 on Calzaghe, which is fine by me!

    This fight's been covered thoroughly, a source I use is confident in backing Hop, with an extensive write-up. I like the Mackie Shilstone pairing again, and I like the intangibles. Hopkins didn't have to take this fight, he took a long time off and waited extensively before making a decision to accept this. He is too proud and legacy-conscious to accept a fight he can't win, he may not actually win, but I like his chances as a dog bet. I don't think it's just about the money here, his position at GBP is lucrative and there are easier paydays out there ie RJ.

    Good luck guys



    Interesting play, makes sense.  You forgot to factor in that Lederman's card is usually wrong so he may even have the wrong guy ahead at that point; definitely a plus in your favor.  I don't know if I have ever played one of those Lederman props that 5dimes offers, I can't stand the guy.  Good luck.

    Yep, agree on the Shilstone point; as I said if anything it just helps B-Hop mentally.  I think this fight is very very close, I will be the first to admit if I am wrong.  I definitely don't see laying -250ish on Joe SU.  If B-Hop was around even would I be backing him?  No, but at these odds YES.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 8:40 PM ET #17

    1.75 units on under 11.5 rounds in Diaconu-Henry (-115)
    Reads like there was some heavy leather landed and Diaconu had Henry hurt bad at the end of the 8th.  I may have to start factoring in these WBC open round scoring fights more in regards to O/U, didn't see the fight, but it makes me wonder if Diaconu went conservative after learning he was well ahead after the 8th.  Not surprising to read that there were some more Donkingtv.com issues, guess it will take a while to get the kinks worked out.

    Added another Hopkins points handicap play.......

    1.15 units on Hopkins +8.5 Points Handicap (-115)
    If Hopkins wins it's a very nice week.  If he keeps it close, which even in defeat I think he will, the two points handicap plays will basically wash out the Hopkins bets.  A draw would be fine also since I have these along with the draw play.  Of course if Calzaghe wins big it's a bad week for me.   As stated, I think we see a very close fight tonight that won't be very aesthetically pleasing.
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    1.75 units on under 11.5 rounds in Diaconu-Henry (-115)
    Reads like there was some heavy leather landed and Diaconu had Henry hurt bad at the end of the 8th.  I may have to start factoring in these WBC open round scoring fights more in regards to O/U, didn't see the fight, but it makes me wonder if Diaconu went conservative after learning he was well ahead after the 8th.  Not surprising to read that there were some more Donkingtv.com issues, guess it will take a while to get the kinks worked out.

    Added another Hopkins points handicap play.......

    1.15 units on Hopkins +8.5 Points Handicap (-115)
    If Hopkins wins it's a very nice week.  If he keeps it close, which even in defeat I think he will, the two points handicap plays will basically wash out the Hopkins bets.  A draw would be fine also since I have these along with the draw play.  Of course if Calzaghe wins big it's a bad week for me.   As stated, I think we see a very close fight tonight that won't be very aesthetically pleasing.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 9:50 PM ET #18

    Glad to see we're thinking along the same lines FB. Unfortunately we were thinking on the same lines in the Diaconu-Henry fight too lol. It did sound like both guys showed great chins, and I completely forgot about the ridiciulous open scoring rule.

    Chasing losses is stupid but Im doing it anyway, I put another 65 straight on Hop +240, with 150 already on the prop +270. If he loses, time to take a step back and be more conservative. I used to parlay the fav. in future close fights several times to get even odds, and then play the dog at fight time for a scalp, lately Ive been too lazy and reckless, and it's cost me.

    Good luck bro! Cmon hometown robbery!
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    Glad to see we're thinking along the same lines FB. Unfortunately we were thinking on the same lines in the Diaconu-Henry fight too lol. It did sound like both guys showed great chins, and I completely forgot about the ridiciulous open scoring rule.

    Chasing losses is stupid but Im doing it anyway, I put another 65 straight on Hop +240, with 150 already on the prop +270. If he loses, time to take a step back and be more conservative. I used to parlay the fav. in future close fights several times to get even odds, and then play the dog at fight time for a scalp, lately Ive been too lazy and reckless, and it's cost me.

    Good luck bro! Cmon hometown robbery!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 9:58 PM ET #19

    Always happy to be onboard with fullbrights. I think there's just too much value in B-Hop given it's Joe's first fight state-side, and given BerNARD's psychological and physical skills.  It's a pickem, and I'm taking the 2-1 odds.

    Drink up.

    I'm on vodka/lemonade right now.  Don't judge, it's in honor of the Utah Jazz
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    Always happy to be onboard with fullbrights. I think there's just too much value in B-Hop given it's Joe's first fight state-side, and given BerNARD's psychological and physical skills.  It's a pickem, and I'm taking the 2-1 odds.

    Drink up.

    I'm on vodka/lemonade right now.  Don't judge, it's in honor of the Utah Jazz
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 10:00 PM ET #20

    On Hopkins as well here. Hoping that the judges tonight don't base things on just the majority of punches that Joe will throw tonight and actually look at the punches that BHop will land down the middle of those wide shots tonight. Really think its going to be kind of a boring fight. BHop finds ways to frustrate guys and thats kind of why hes always in kind of close decisions. We'll see but I'm on Bhop tonight. GL to us
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    On Hopkins as well here. Hoping that the judges tonight don't base things on just the majority of punches that Joe will throw tonight and actually look at the punches that BHop will land down the middle of those wide shots tonight. Really think its going to be kind of a boring fight. BHop finds ways to frustrate guys and thats kind of why hes always in kind of close decisions. We'll see but I'm on Bhop tonight. GL to us
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 10:05 PM ET #21

    JC by UD Easy
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    JC by UD Easy
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 10:43 PM ET #22

    Sorry guys Im jumping ship. Go Calzaghe!!!

    What a fluke, Hop ahead after 3. So I have

    150 to win 405 Joe
    100 to win 240 Hop


    Dumb luck.
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    Sorry guys Im jumping ship. Go Calzaghe!!!

    What a fluke, Hop ahead after 3. So I have

    150 to win 405 Joe
    100 to win 240 Hop


    Dumb luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 11:19 PM ET #23

    Shouldve been unanimous, wtf was Aidella Byrd watching???

     O well JC by D still enough to cash   

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    Shouldve been unanimous, wtf was Aidella Byrd watching???

     O well JC by D still enough to cash   

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 11:23 PM ET #24

    Hopkins fights are so tough to judge. I think it was a horrible fight like a lot of BHop fights. Guess JC won but not by much and was a boring fight.
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    Hopkins fights are so tough to judge. I think it was a horrible fight like a lot of BHop fights. Guess JC won but not by much and was a boring fight.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2008 - 11:26 PM ET #25

    Easy win for Joe on the cards. Byrd should have her eyes checked ASAP. That type of scary scoring is why I covered my JC play. Nothing is ever certain when it goes to the judges!!!
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    Easy win for Joe on the cards. Byrd should have her eyes checked ASAP. That type of scary scoring is why I covered my JC play. Nothing is ever certain when it goes to the judges!!!
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