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    DLH/Pacquiao Pick

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    walktheline
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 8:37 AM ET #1

    Fight week is here.
     
    Ok, much has been made about the move up to 147 for Manny in this fight. To realize how much, check out this article.
     
    https://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2008/1206_delahoya_pacquiao/columns/dettloff.html
     
    A very good overview of what weight gain does/doesn't mean to a fighter. Some good examples of previous fighters that jumped in weight that had the build for it. Some others that didn't. The other side of the coin has DLH coming back down to 147. I would be very scared about this under most circumstances. However, not this time. If he had to cut 10+ pounds prior to the fight, the drain would be huge. That would give Pacman a chance to use his speed against a dehydrated DLH. That isn't the case. While 24/7 provides very little in handicapping a fight, it did this time. If you had a keen eye in the last episode (prior to thanksgiving) DLH had a workout and a weigh-in to see if he could "eat some turkey." His weight? 147.5. That tells me that not only is he going to make weight, he is is great shape.
     
    Manny has been hurt in several fights and knocked out in the past. So has DLH, but that was by a huge BHop. That is apples to oranges here. Manny wins via pressure. Usually fainting a worthless jab and sending the big straight left down the pipe. This isn't going to work here. He will be the hunted, not the hunter. Also, his biggest enemy is a solid jab. DLH has/had one of the best in the business. To see Manny's struggle with said jab, view a clip from the Marquez fight. (from about 2:20-3:30)
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrYHdunsiaY&feature=related
     
    Those straight rights were a product of an effective jab. While DLH isn't known for a great right hand, he will have more than enough snap to do damage to Manny. He can also build off that and land a big left hook to a sloppy and retreating Manny.
     
    Manny could win several early rounds and MAYBE steal the fight if his speed frustrates DLH. This happened in the Mayweather fight. It seemed that DLH gave up the gameplan (jab) and just started throwing one punch bombs that Mayweather easily countered. Manny could do the same, I just don't see it happening.
     
    The other angle in this fight is that it was hand picked by DLH not only for money, but to add a decent win in his last fight with almost no risk. I love Manny - when he fights in his league. I hope he doesn't lose some of his luster after he gets a beating at the hands of DLH. As for DLH, I hope we've seen the last of him. I'm at the point of "thanks, but no thanks" with his antics and clear desire to be a promoter, not a world class legend that he should be.
     
    DLH, ITD, +139 (waiting to see where this goes) the hell with football, this is the only wager that matters to me this week.
     
     
     
     
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Fight week is here.
     
    Ok, much has been made about the move up to 147 for Manny in this fight. To realize how much, check out this article.
     
    https://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2008/1206_delahoya_pacquiao/columns/dettloff.html
     
    A very good overview of what weight gain does/doesn't mean to a fighter. Some good examples of previous fighters that jumped in weight that had the build for it. Some others that didn't. The other side of the coin has DLH coming back down to 147. I would be very scared about this under most circumstances. However, not this time. If he had to cut 10+ pounds prior to the fight, the drain would be huge. That would give Pacman a chance to use his speed against a dehydrated DLH. That isn't the case. While 24/7 provides very little in handicapping a fight, it did this time. If you had a keen eye in the last episode (prior to thanksgiving) DLH had a workout and a weigh-in to see if he could "eat some turkey." His weight? 147.5. That tells me that not only is he going to make weight, he is is great shape.
     
    Manny has been hurt in several fights and knocked out in the past. So has DLH, but that was by a huge BHop. That is apples to oranges here. Manny wins via pressure. Usually fainting a worthless jab and sending the big straight left down the pipe. This isn't going to work here. He will be the hunted, not the hunter. Also, his biggest enemy is a solid jab. DLH has/had one of the best in the business. To see Manny's struggle with said jab, view a clip from the Marquez fight. (from about 2:20-3:30)
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrYHdunsiaY&feature=related
     
    Those straight rights were a product of an effective jab. While DLH isn't known for a great right hand, he will have more than enough snap to do damage to Manny. He can also build off that and land a big left hook to a sloppy and retreating Manny.
     
    Manny could win several early rounds and MAYBE steal the fight if his speed frustrates DLH. This happened in the Mayweather fight. It seemed that DLH gave up the gameplan (jab) and just started throwing one punch bombs that Mayweather easily countered. Manny could do the same, I just don't see it happening.
     
    The other angle in this fight is that it was hand picked by DLH not only for money, but to add a decent win in his last fight with almost no risk. I love Manny - when he fights in his league. I hope he doesn't lose some of his luster after he gets a beating at the hands of DLH. As for DLH, I hope we've seen the last of him. I'm at the point of "thanks, but no thanks" with his antics and clear desire to be a promoter, not a world class legend that he should be.
     
    DLH, ITD, +139 (waiting to see where this goes) the hell with football, this is the only wager that matters to me this week.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #2

    agreed. good luck.
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    agreed. good luck.
     
    weepaul
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 3:12 PM ET #3

    Hey Walk,
     
    If you can, you should join Skybet.
     
    DLH ITD was +187 the last time I checked.
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    Hey Walk,
     
    If you can, you should join Skybet.
     
    DLH ITD was +187 the last time I checked.
     
    Deathvalli
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 10:20 PM ET #4

    Good luck man .. I am gonna lay $$ on DLH to just win -210 .. and a lil on a DLH KO . prob good odds .. soo either way I think I SHOULD come out on top ..hope so (knock on wood)
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    Good luck man .. I am gonna lay $$ on DLH to just win -210 .. and a lil on a DLH KO . prob good odds .. soo either way I think I SHOULD come out on top ..hope so (knock on wood)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 10:20 PM ET #5

    Also GL
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    Also GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 2:45 PM ET #6

    Manny's style is going to appear similiar to Shane Mosely's to Oscar.  While speed is Manny's biggest assest, it is in no way similiar to Floyd Mayweather's.  Manny throws punches with reckless abandon, especially that staight left of his.  He is volume, flailing puncher.  There were many occasions in Oscar's first fight with Shane when they traded punches like cyclones.  Their subsequent fights featured less of such exchanges as they resorted to systematic boxing to win.  I've never seen Manny in a tactical fight, or systematically break down an opponent with his boxing skills.  True he has had great success with his style, and his win against JMM is super impressive as he is a master boxer.  But Manny's style is best suited against similiar sized opponents, and I would venture to guess Oscar's biggest assest in particular will be his height advantage.  Not strength (Manny is freakishly strong), not reach, but forcing Manny to punch up, while Oscar will rain shots down.
    Let's not forget Oscar gamely fought a juiced up Shane Mosely in their second fight as Shane has just admitted to, so this tells you how good and/or strong Oscar really is. 
     
    Oscar by 8th round KO   
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    Manny's style is going to appear similiar to Shane Mosely's to Oscar.  While speed is Manny's biggest assest, it is in no way similiar to Floyd Mayweather's.  Manny throws punches with reckless abandon, especially that staight left of his.  He is volume, flailing puncher.  There were many occasions in Oscar's first fight with Shane when they traded punches like cyclones.  Their subsequent fights featured less of such exchanges as they resorted to systematic boxing to win.  I've never seen Manny in a tactical fight, or systematically break down an opponent with his boxing skills.  True he has had great success with his style, and his win against JMM is super impressive as he is a master boxer.  But Manny's style is best suited against similiar sized opponents, and I would venture to guess Oscar's biggest assest in particular will be his height advantage.  Not strength (Manny is freakishly strong), not reach, but forcing Manny to punch up, while Oscar will rain shots down.
    Let's not forget Oscar gamely fought a juiced up Shane Mosely in their second fight as Shane has just admitted to, so this tells you how good and/or strong Oscar really is. 
     
    Oscar by 8th round KO   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 4:13 AM ET #7

    Another thing I forgot to mention is the impact of 8oz gloves for this fight. That is a HUGE advantage for Oscar. If anyone wonders why he might have lost some power through the years, this might be part of the reason. I just don't see how in the hell Manny will stand with him for twelve rounds.
     
    Check out the size (and fist) difference in this picture.
     
    https://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/headlines//EkklFuZpkudyqjliLF.html
     
    I'm also pretty sure this is the first southpaw DLH has fought since Hector Camacho in which he won via points. That would have me a bit worried - if and only if I thought Manny would land something that could make DLH think twice about trading punches.
     
    Here is another solid article that might explain the recent drop in the line for this fight.
     
    https://philboxing.com/news/story-20517.html
     
    However, that seems to be bullshit. Check out the 24/7 I mentioned. His weight on Thanksgiving was 147.5 (after a workout)
     
    This is about all I can do to give some data that you guys may not of had. I've made my pick and gave you my reasons why. Just don't beat me up too much when Manny KO's Oscar in the first.
     
    Good luck.
     
     
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    Another thing I forgot to mention is the impact of 8oz gloves for this fight. That is a HUGE advantage for Oscar. If anyone wonders why he might have lost some power through the years, this might be part of the reason. I just don't see how in the hell Manny will stand with him for twelve rounds.
     
    Check out the size (and fist) difference in this picture.
     
    https://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/headlines//EkklFuZpkudyqjliLF.html
     
    I'm also pretty sure this is the first southpaw DLH has fought since Hector Camacho in which he won via points. That would have me a bit worried - if and only if I thought Manny would land something that could make DLH think twice about trading punches.
     
    Here is another solid article that might explain the recent drop in the line for this fight.
     
    https://philboxing.com/news/story-20517.html
     
    However, that seems to be bullshit. Check out the 24/7 I mentioned. His weight on Thanksgiving was 147.5 (after a workout)
     
    This is about all I can do to give some data that you guys may not of had. I've made my pick and gave you my reasons why. Just don't beat me up too much when Manny KO's Oscar in the first.
     
    Good luck.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 8:34 AM ET #8

    This is such a mismatch.

     

    Pacman is coming up 15 lbs from his natural weight class to make a payday.

     

        Oscar has a great chin and has been hit by the best, Manny is not going to score a TKO. Manny and Roach say they will attack and pressure but remember when Manny rematched Barerra? Remember when Manny rematched JMM? Did he steamroll them or did he have to respect their firepower? And how much more for the Golden boy, a natural 155lb fighter who in every fight unleashes those left-right hook storms?

        The plan versus JMM was to counterfight, knowing JMM would press the action, fearing a judge robbery (which he suffered anyway). Did it work? For the most part no. Manny is not a good counterfighter and he is not a defence wizard. His main edge is power, stamina & speed.

     

    Pacman does have 2 hopes though.

    1) A heatbutt opening up a big cut

    2) Oscar’s shoulder drops off in the ring

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    This is such a mismatch.

     

    Pacman is coming up 15 lbs from his natural weight class to make a payday.

     

        Oscar has a great chin and has been hit by the best, Manny is not going to score a TKO. Manny and Roach say they will attack and pressure but remember when Manny rematched Barerra? Remember when Manny rematched JMM? Did he steamroll them or did he have to respect their firepower? And how much more for the Golden boy, a natural 155lb fighter who in every fight unleashes those left-right hook storms?

        The plan versus JMM was to counterfight, knowing JMM would press the action, fearing a judge robbery (which he suffered anyway). Did it work? For the most part no. Manny is not a good counterfighter and he is not a defence wizard. His main edge is power, stamina & speed.

     

    Pacman does have 2 hopes though.

    1) A heatbutt opening up a big cut

    2) Oscar’s shoulder drops off in the ring

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:40 AM ET #9

    Definitely think you are on the right side and outcome here WTL.  I think you will be in good shape come Saturday night.
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    Definitely think you are on the right side and outcome here WTL.  I think you will be in good shape come Saturday night.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #10

    Good stuff walk. you convinced me to make a play
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    Good stuff walk. you convinced me to make a play
     
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    I can't disagree with the size factor here.  However, I don't believe it will be as big a deal as most everybody making it out to be.  Right now Manny is a much better fighter than Oscar.  Oscar has lost more big fights than he's won...he tends to fight soft.  His skills have deminished...he had trouble with steve forbes earlier this year!  Manny's going to hit him...and hit him hard.  Reading posts here on this forum, posters are really pushing the weight factor almost trying to talk them selves into the delahoya play.  Even reading columns on the fight...its the same thing over and over, blah blah blah.  It's a factor in the fight but not the only factor.  I'm liking manny to pull off the upset here.  And I'd like delahoya to lose just for choosing this fight.  Bottom line is I think the weight difference makes this fight about even, thats all.  I could be wrong...been wrong before.  I tend not to be the frontrunner/favorite type anyway, I don't jump on any bandwagons or just read and here things and repeat them like i'm a genious.  good luck betting to all...and merry christmas.  peace.
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    I can't disagree with the size factor here.  However, I don't believe it will be as big a deal as most everybody making it out to be.  Right now Manny is a much better fighter than Oscar.  Oscar has lost more big fights than he's won...he tends to fight soft.  His skills have deminished...he had trouble with steve forbes earlier this year!  Manny's going to hit him...and hit him hard.  Reading posts here on this forum, posters are really pushing the weight factor almost trying to talk them selves into the delahoya play.  Even reading columns on the fight...its the same thing over and over, blah blah blah.  It's a factor in the fight but not the only factor.  I'm liking manny to pull off the upset here.  And I'd like delahoya to lose just for choosing this fight.  Bottom line is I think the weight difference makes this fight about even, thats all.  I could be wrong...been wrong before.  I tend not to be the frontrunner/favorite type anyway, I don't jump on any bandwagons or just read and here things and repeat them like i'm a genious.  good luck betting to all...and merry christmas.  peace.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 10:40 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by robmapalo:

    I can't disagree with the size factor here.  However, I don't believe it will be as big a deal as most everybody making it out to be.  Right now Manny is a much better fighter than Oscar.  Oscar has lost more big fights than he's won...he tends to fight soft.  His skills have deminished...he had trouble with steve forbes earlier this year!  Manny's going to hit him...and hit him hard.  Reading posts here on this forum, posters are really pushing the weight factor almost trying to talk them selves into the delahoya play.  Even reading columns on the fight...its the same thing over and over, blah blah blah.  It's a factor in the fight but not the only factor.  I'm liking manny to pull off the upset here.  And I'd like delahoya to lose just for choosing this fight.  Bottom line is I think the weight difference makes this fight about even, thats all.  I could be wrong...been wrong before.  I tend not to be the frontrunner/favorite type anyway, I don't jump on any bandwagons or just read and here things and repeat them like i'm a genious.  good luck betting to all...and merry christmas.  peace.

    Merry Christmas. You seem to be the exact definition of "long time lurker, first time poster." Anyways, welcome. You have to realize that while manny fot MAB and Morales they were WAY past their repsective primes. The only elitle level man he fought in his prime is Marquez - whom I thougt he lost the majority of rounds to. Oscar has lost many big fights. However, he has fought the best. I'm not sure there has EVER been a fighter that fought as many top level guys of his era than Oscar. You can call him whatever you like. I don't like him but he has too many advantages in this fight for him too lose. It would take an illness or undisclosed medical problem for DLH not to win this fight. Value like this doesn't come along often. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmapalo:

    I can't disagree with the size factor here.  However, I don't believe it will be as big a deal as most everybody making it out to be.  Right now Manny is a much better fighter than Oscar.  Oscar has lost more big fights than he's won...he tends to fight soft.  His skills have deminished...he had trouble with steve forbes earlier this year!  Manny's going to hit him...and hit him hard.  Reading posts here on this forum, posters are really pushing the weight factor almost trying to talk them selves into the delahoya play.  Even reading columns on the fight...its the same thing over and over, blah blah blah.  It's a factor in the fight but not the only factor.  I'm liking manny to pull off the upset here.  And I'd like delahoya to lose just for choosing this fight.  Bottom line is I think the weight difference makes this fight about even, thats all.  I could be wrong...been wrong before.  I tend not to be the frontrunner/favorite type anyway, I don't jump on any bandwagons or just read and here things and repeat them like i'm a genious.  good luck betting to all...and merry christmas.  peace.

    Merry Christmas. You seem to be the exact definition of "long time lurker, first time poster." Anyways, welcome. You have to realize that while manny fot MAB and Morales they were WAY past their repsective primes. The only elitle level man he fought in his prime is Marquez - whom I thougt he lost the majority of rounds to. Oscar has lost many big fights. However, he has fought the best. I'm not sure there has EVER been a fighter that fought as many top level guys of his era than Oscar. You can call him whatever you like. I don't like him but he has too many advantages in this fight for him too lose. It would take an illness or undisclosed medical problem for DLH not to win this fight. Value like this doesn't come along often. Best of luck.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 12:38 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Merry Christmas. You seem to be the exact definition of "long time lurker, first time poster." Anyways, welcome. You have to realize that while manny fot MAB and Morales they were WAY past their repsective primes. The only elitle level man he fought in his prime is Marquez - whom I thougt he lost the majority of rounds to. Oscar has lost many big fights. However, he has fought the best. I'm not sure there has EVER been a fighter that fought as many top level guys of his era than Oscar. You can call him whatever you like. I don't like him but he has too many advantages in this fight for him too lose. It would take an illness or undisclosed medical problem for DLH not to win this fight. Value like this doesn't come along often. Best of luck.





    i think dude is trying to talk himself into betting pac...


    i really really hope that's manny's plan...to attack and pressure dlh and that it's not some sort of smoke screen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Merry Christmas. You seem to be the exact definition of "long time lurker, first time poster." Anyways, welcome. You have to realize that while manny fot MAB and Morales they were WAY past their repsective primes. The only elitle level man he fought in his prime is Marquez - whom I thougt he lost the majority of rounds to. Oscar has lost many big fights. However, he has fought the best. I'm not sure there has EVER been a fighter that fought as many top level guys of his era than Oscar. You can call him whatever you like. I don't like him but he has too many advantages in this fight for him too lose. It would take an illness or undisclosed medical problem for DLH not to win this fight. Value like this doesn't come along often. Best of luck.





    i think dude is trying to talk himself into betting pac...


    i really really hope that's manny's plan...to attack and pressure dlh and that it's not some sort of smoke screen...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 8:17 PM ET #14

    Adding:

    Resto/Ortiz over 9.5, (+180)

    Drinking and watching football. You'll just have to trust me on this one.... maybe.

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    Adding:

    Resto/Ortiz over 9.5, (+180)

    Drinking and watching football. You'll just have to trust me on this one.... maybe.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 8:25 PM ET #15

    PACMAN
     
    +165
     
    10 UNITS
     
    UNDER 9 1/2 RDS
     
    +160
     
    10 UNITS
     
     
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    PACMAN
     
    +165
     
    10 UNITS
     
    UNDER 9 1/2 RDS
     
    +160
     
    10 UNITS
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 9:42 PM ET #16

    Manny Pacquiao +145
    Enough Said...
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    Manny Pacquiao +145
    Enough Said...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2008 - 9:50 PM ET #17

    Depee.. BayArea... whatever. I'm going to chose my words here since I'm drinking....
     
    Start your own thread. Tell me why you like Pacman. Tell me why Freddie isn't a douchebag.
     
    I hope you win. I hope I win. I wish everyone can win. However, that can't happen. Freddie.. "starving himself, so full... weak in the ring?" WTF????
     
    Anyways... you don't put the work into capping boxing that I do. You don't watch tapes. I'm on the correct side. It's boxing so anything can happen. Nough wasn't said... you said nothing. I said too much. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. I've been correct to a sick degree in almost every fight this year. There is a reason for that.
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    Depee.. BayArea... whatever. I'm going to chose my words here since I'm drinking....
     
    Start your own thread. Tell me why you like Pacman. Tell me why Freddie isn't a douchebag.
     
    I hope you win. I hope I win. I wish everyone can win. However, that can't happen. Freddie.. "starving himself, so full... weak in the ring?" WTF????
     
    Anyways... you don't put the work into capping boxing that I do. You don't watch tapes. I'm on the correct side. It's boxing so anything can happen. Nough wasn't said... you said nothing. I said too much. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. I've been correct to a sick degree in almost every fight this year. There is a reason for that.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:22 AM ET #18

    WALKTHELINE

     

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    WALKTHELINE

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:25 AM ET #19

    If you had Resto , Ortiz over 9 1/2 seconds you cashed
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    If you had Resto , Ortiz over 9 1/2 seconds you cashed
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:31 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Deepee:

    PACMAN
     
    +165
     
    10 UNITS
     
    UNDER 9 1/2 RDS
     
    +160
     
    10 UNITS
     
     

     

    I feel good!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepee:

    PACMAN
     
    +165
     
    10 UNITS
     
    UNDER 9 1/2 RDS
     
    +160
     
    10 UNITS
     
     

     

    I feel good!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:34 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Deepee:

    WALKTHELINE

     

    You are correct. I was WAY off this fight. However, if you bet me on every other play you would have be up very large. Very down if you picked this fight. I'll take my lumps here, but don't be stupid about it. Boxing is a very dirty game. How dirty? Not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepee:

    WALKTHELINE

     

    You are correct. I was WAY off this fight. However, if you bet me on every other play you would have be up very large. Very down if you picked this fight. I'll take my lumps here, but don't be stupid about it. Boxing is a very dirty game. How dirty? Not sure.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:38 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    You are correct. I was WAY off this fight. However, if you bet me on every other play you would have be up very large. Very down if you picked this fight. I'll take my lumps here, but don't be stupid about it. Boxing is a very dirty game. How dirty? Not sure.

     

    Cmon dirty??? Pacman dominated him!!! nough said!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    You are correct. I was WAY off this fight. However, if you bet me on every other play you would have be up very large. Very down if you picked this fight. I'll take my lumps here, but don't be stupid about it. Boxing is a very dirty game. How dirty? Not sure.

     

    Cmon dirty??? Pacman dominated him!!! nough said!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:40 AM ET #23

    I normally never gloat like this but when someone comes into my thread just to mock my pick I get annoyed.
     
    I am glad you lost and hope you feel shame
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    I normally never gloat like this but when someone comes into my thread just to mock my pick I get annoyed.
     
    I am glad you lost and hope you feel shame
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 12:44 AM ET #24

    Wow, why are still talking about boxing? The ufc rules! Boxing leaves us wanting more. Remember Mike Tyson?
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    Wow, why are still talking about boxing? The ufc rules! Boxing leaves us wanting more. Remember Mike Tyson?
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2008 - 2:48 AM ET #25

    Manny Pacquiao, like what i said earlier.
    Congrats to all the backers

    Better luck next time Walktheline. Which Dela Hoya was suppose to be the better pick on paper. I'll give u credit for your research.
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    Manny Pacquiao, like what i said earlier.
    Congrats to all the backers

    Better luck next time Walktheline. Which Dela Hoya was suppose to be the better pick on paper. I'll give u credit for your research.
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