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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2007 - 11:23 PM ET #1

    I lost my ass on his last fight agianst Feliciano , then I heard this dude writes loves songs and plays the guitar !!!! well I will give him the benifet of the doubt on Friday Night Fights depending on the weigh in , but I expect him box well with his lanky body .
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    I lost my ass on his last fight agianst Feliciano , then I heard this dude writes loves songs and plays the guitar !!!! well I will give him the benifet of the doubt on Friday Night Fights depending on the weigh in , but I expect him box well with his lanky body .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 8:19 AM ET #2

    Where are you seeing odds?  No new odds have dropped this week.
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    Where are you seeing odds?  No new odds have dropped this week.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 8:51 AM ET #3

    they will come , 5:45 central time at the latest .
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    they will come , 5:45 central time at the latest .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 11:29 AM ET #4

    1st up, be aware this is not a live fight, tape delay due to some version of baseball. So mind the Inet, it could spoil the result for yah.
     
    I'll have more once some odds go up. I like what I've found, but don't wanna ghost it.
     
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    1st up, be aware this is not a live fight, tape delay due to some version of baseball. So mind the Inet, it could spoil the result for yah.
     
    I'll have more once some odds go up. I like what I've found, but don't wanna ghost it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 12:08 PM ET #5

    DR-7oo
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    Couple of things to note. I'm getting a lot about DR's Chin be suspect, and KC has all of his Stoppages inside of 2 full Rounds. But KC has never been past 8, so the longer this one goes the more things start to tilt towards DR. DR also has what I'll call promotional Home-Field (not his home-town), that also favors DR the longer this one goes, as does his Experience & Resume` edges, as KC has never beaten a guy 3 games above .500.
     
    But then there's this.......KC has cut 7 lbs. for this one, whereas DR has put on 4.75 lbs. So you really do have to wonder if KC can catch up to DR early on, & put a Stop to this one??? DR himself has been a recent high-light reel of Finishes for ESPN2, both for & against. So you could take that to mean a LOW on a Total, or a Stoppage Prop for either side. I'm waiting on the Props.
     
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    DR-7oo
    KC+500
     
    Couple of things to note. I'm getting a lot about DR's Chin be suspect, and KC has all of his Stoppages inside of 2 full Rounds. But KC has never been past 8, so the longer this one goes the more things start to tilt towards DR. DR also has what I'll call promotional Home-Field (not his home-town), that also favors DR the longer this one goes, as does his Experience & Resume` edges, as KC has never beaten a guy 3 games above .500.
     
    But then there's this.......KC has cut 7 lbs. for this one, whereas DR has put on 4.75 lbs. So you really do have to wonder if KC can catch up to DR early on, & put a Stop to this one??? DR himself has been a recent high-light reel of Finishes for ESPN2, both for & against. So you could take that to mean a LOW on a Total, or a Stoppage Prop for either side. I'm waiting on the Props.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 2:41 PM ET #6

    KC at nearly 14:1 ITD is worth a sniff. I took that & DR as a side. Both Parlayed w/ lottsa college fb chalk, & some International Hoops chalk. Took GR & MR threw them in as well. Still waiting on Outcomes for the mega P.Rico show-down card.
     
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    KC at nearly 14:1 ITD is worth a sniff. I took that & DR as a side. Both Parlayed w/ lottsa college fb chalk, & some International Hoops chalk. Took GR & MR threw them in as well. Still waiting on Outcomes for the mega P.Rico show-down card.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 3:38 PM ET #7

    yes, Keenan , is a  good price , however  the final factor in my Delvin pick  is I heard he has been sparring with Archak TerMeliksetian so this will give him the edge for a VICTORY.
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    yes, Keenan , is a  good price , however  the final factor in my Delvin pick  is I heard he has been sparring with Archak TerMeliksetian so this will give him the edge for a VICTORY.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 3:44 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    yes, Keenan , is a  good price , however  the final factor in my Delvin pick  is I heard he has been sparring with Archak TerMeliksetian so this will give him the edge for a VICTORY.


    Archak is on the down swing of a career that never was. I don't think think his presence in camp should be a clinching factor for laying that kind of chalk on Delvin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    yes, Keenan , is a  good price , however  the final factor in my Delvin pick  is I heard he has been sparring with Archak TerMeliksetian so this will give him the edge for a VICTORY.


    Archak is on the down swing of a career that never was. I don't think think his presence in camp should be a clinching factor for laying that kind of chalk on Delvin.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 4:49 PM ET #9

    exacty thats why its good , Delvins opponent K.C. is just like the "Shark " hes a sparring partner  for bigger names .
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    exacty thats why its good , Delvins opponent K.C. is just like the "Shark " hes a sparring partner  for bigger names .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 4:51 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    exacty thats why its good , Delvins opponent K.C. is just like the "Shark " hes a sparring partner  for bigger names .



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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    exacty thats why its good , Delvins opponent K.C. is just like the "Shark " hes a sparring partner  for bigger names .



     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 5:28 PM ET #11

    All plays and units wagered posted
    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    Last Week: +.38 of a unit
    2007 to date: +12.02 units (+$1,202)


    Only 2 plays for the weekend right now.  Hoping to get a Gallardo decision prop at 5dimes.

    .15 of a unit on Collins ITD (+1358)
    .50 of a unit on Oakey (+255) vs Magee

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    All plays and units wagered posted
    2006 Results (March-July): +19.2 units (+$1,920)
    Last Week: +.38 of a unit
    2007 to date: +12.02 units (+$1,202)


    Only 2 plays for the weekend right now.  Hoping to get a Gallardo decision prop at 5dimes.

    .15 of a unit on Collins ITD (+1358)
    .50 of a unit on Oakey (+255) vs Magee

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 7:03 PM ET #12

    What say you on 'nard Dunne Fbs???
     
    Pretty wild to see a buck21 lb. guy drop 13.3 lbs. for his visiting fight! But that's zackly what Hugo has done. My (near) boy "El Nino" won't win anything other than a Decision. But I don't feel worse about that. Just need the Outcome Props to open up, as I now expect HugoCa' just goes from broke, for as long as he can. Maybe even get 6 or 7 Rounds & then he (mostly) does not have to worry about having enough left in the tank to get home.
     
    Added the LOW on the ESPN2 main-event in Parlay form of course.
     
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    What say you on 'nard Dunne Fbs???
     
    Pretty wild to see a buck21 lb. guy drop 13.3 lbs. for his visiting fight! But that's zackly what Hugo has done. My (near) boy "El Nino" won't win anything other than a Decision. But I don't feel worse about that. Just need the Outcome Props to open up, as I now expect HugoCa' just goes from broke, for as long as he can. Maybe even get 6 or 7 Rounds & then he (mostly) does not have to worry about having enough left in the tank to get home.
     
    Added the LOW on the ESPN2 main-event in Parlay form of course.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 10:34 PM ET #13

    Well, no outcome props at 5dimes on Gallardo as I had hoped so I am just going to play Gallardo straight.

    .50 of a unit on Gallardo (+145)


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    Well, no outcome props at 5dimes on Gallardo as I had hoped so I am just going to play Gallardo straight.

    .50 of a unit on Gallardo (+145)


     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 12:25 AM ET #14

    any one who took KC , you should be very grateful , DR betors got robbed outright .
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    any one who took KC , you should be very grateful , DR betors got robbed outright .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 12:50 AM ET #15

    The Telefutura Card went according to my schedule. The ESPN2 card was less than a No Contest. Even my winning LOW got wipped out. GR pictched a Don Larson, MA won in a 2 Round affair, even Cloud struck back after being opened up.
     
    I saw an ESPN2 main-event that was just about to get interesting. Collins was finding DR at the extended end of his Right, & DR was wamming up to the challenge. M-a-y-b-e should have been a TKO for DR. I saw lottsa blood at the end of the Round that TA nor BK (nice Ringside effort BK) talked-up. But I kan't be 100% sure where it happened. Though Collins did not respond like he'd been butted (w/ the usual wipping & grimacing I mean). So a TKO could have been legit.
     
    That's about it for me. Might try Dunne 'morrow, or nothing at all. If I'm not back, it was nothing.
     
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    The Telefutura Card went according to my schedule. The ESPN2 card was less than a No Contest. Even my winning LOW got wipped out. GR pictched a Don Larson, MA won in a 2 Round affair, even Cloud struck back after being opened up.
     
    I saw an ESPN2 main-event that was just about to get interesting. Collins was finding DR at the extended end of his Right, & DR was wamming up to the challenge. M-a-y-b-e should have been a TKO for DR. I saw lottsa blood at the end of the Round that TA nor BK (nice Ringside effort BK) talked-up. But I kan't be 100% sure where it happened. Though Collins did not respond like he'd been butted (w/ the usual wipping & grimacing I mean). So a TKO could have been legit.
     
    That's about it for me. Might try Dunne 'morrow, or nothing at all. If I'm not back, it was nothing.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 1:06 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    any one who took KC , you should be very grateful , DR betors got robbed outright .


    Dude he was a 7-1 fave.  If you were robbed you weren't robbed of much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    any one who took KC , you should be very grateful , DR betors got robbed outright .


    Dude he was a 7-1 fave.  If you were robbed you weren't robbed of much.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 1:19 AM ET #17

    .15 of a unit on Collins ITD (+1358)
    .50 of a unit on Gallardo (+145)


    Well I didn't get my wish of betting the decision prop on Gallardo, but still won on him.  I am really surprised that 5dimes didn't release outcome props for it, they usually do for Telemundo main events.  I would have much rather had a +300 or so number.

    Yeah, Bigeiii, tomorrow is pretty bare.  A lot of question marks surrounding the Puerto Rico card in my mind in both the main and semi-main.  I wonder if they will offer odds for the Jimenez fight.


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    .15 of a unit on Collins ITD (+1358)
    .50 of a unit on Gallardo (+145)


    Well I didn't get my wish of betting the decision prop on Gallardo, but still won on him.  I am really surprised that 5dimes didn't release outcome props for it, they usually do for Telemundo main events.  I would have much rather had a +300 or so number.

    Yeah, Bigeiii, tomorrow is pretty bare.  A lot of question marks surrounding the Puerto Rico card in my mind in both the main and semi-main.  I wonder if they will offer odds for the Jimenez fight.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 12:13 PM ET #18

    I dont give a 2 bit shit  , the New York State Athletic Commission , will review the tape and change  it 2 TKO , WAtch dude , but guess what its too late .
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    I dont give a 2 bit shit  , the New York State Athletic Commission , will review the tape and change  it 2 TKO , WAtch dude , but guess what its too late .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 1:14 PM ET #19

    A couple of more dog plays to go with Oakey today.  I have never really been impressed by Dunne and he appeared very beatable in the three fights I have gotten tapes of.  I lost on Walstad small at wide + odds last time out against Dunne and won on the over in what turned out to be a close fight, and I made a small throwaway bet on Martinez this time.  Dunne is there to be beaten, but I have not seen Martinez; though like what I read, so I went very small on him.

    I like Cazares's physical advantages, but wonder what effect the late weight loss took on him.  I think if he wins it's inside the distance, but if he doesn't get it done early he may fade down the stretch due to the weight so I am taking Calderon by 12 rd decision to cover the bet.  Value bet on Martinez against Jimenez, didn't think I would see the odds this wide.

    .20 of a unit on Martinez (+310) vs Dunne
    .75 unit on Cazares ITD (+367)
    .50 of a unit on Calderon (+149)
    .25 of a unit on Martinez (+220) vs Jimenez


    FYI....
    You can watch the Oakey-Magee/Martinez-Dunne card on the web live at https://www.rte.ie/live/ late this afternoon.  Also, for streamtvnow members they are showing the Puerto Rico PPV card live tonight, it's not worth paying $30 for in my mind, plus for those like me that have cable instead of Directv, it's the only option.



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    A couple of more dog plays to go with Oakey today.  I have never really been impressed by Dunne and he appeared very beatable in the three fights I have gotten tapes of.  I lost on Walstad small at wide + odds last time out against Dunne and won on the over in what turned out to be a close fight, and I made a small throwaway bet on Martinez this time.  Dunne is there to be beaten, but I have not seen Martinez; though like what I read, so I went very small on him.

    I like Cazares's physical advantages, but wonder what effect the late weight loss took on him.  I think if he wins it's inside the distance, but if he doesn't get it done early he may fade down the stretch due to the weight so I am taking Calderon by 12 rd decision to cover the bet.  Value bet on Martinez against Jimenez, didn't think I would see the odds this wide.

    .20 of a unit on Martinez (+310) vs Dunne
    .75 unit on Cazares ITD (+367)
    .50 of a unit on Calderon (+149)
    .25 of a unit on Martinez (+220) vs Jimenez


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    You can watch the Oakey-Magee/Martinez-Dunne card on the web live at https://www.rte.ie/live/ late this afternoon.  Also, for streamtvnow members they are showing the Puerto Rico PPV card live tonight, it's not worth paying $30 for in my mind, plus for those like me that have cable instead of Directv, it's the only option.



     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 1:17 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:


    .50 of a unit on Calderon (+149)




    Should have read:
    .50 of a unit on Calderon by 12rd decision (+149)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:


    .50 of a unit on Calderon (+149)




    Should have read:
    .50 of a unit on Calderon by 12rd decision (+149)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 4:47 PM ET #21

    I agry on both Puerto Rico Outcome Props for the Main-Event Fbs. Played those same 2 myself.
     
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    I agry on both Puerto Rico Outcome Props for the Main-Event Fbs. Played those same 2 myself.
     
    GLA!
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 7:46 PM ET #22

    .50 of a unit on Oakey (+255) vs Magee
    .20 of a unit on Martinez (+310) vs Dunne


    Like I said Dunne in my mind was more suspect than prospect.  I just wish I would have known a bit more or have seen some footage of Martinez before and really profited off of it.  Majority draw in the Oakey fight.  Very good showings for the dogs in Ireland today.
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    .50 of a unit on Oakey (+255) vs Magee
    .20 of a unit on Martinez (+310) vs Dunne


    Like I said Dunne in my mind was more suspect than prospect.  I just wish I would have known a bit more or have seen some footage of Martinez before and really profited off of it.  Majority draw in the Oakey fight.  Very good showings for the dogs in Ireland today.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 11:41 PM ET #23

    The dog week continues...

    .25 of a unit on Martinez (+220) vs Jimenez 

    What a fight, the main event will have a hard time coming close to matching the action I just saw.  What a war, Martinez is one heck of a relentless pressure fighter.  He had Jimenez hurt several times and then finally stopped him in the 12th.  Props to Jimenez he showed a lot of heart and grit staying in the fight until the last round, his legs were gone in the 6th.
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    The dog week continues...

    .25 of a unit on Martinez (+220) vs Jimenez 

    What a fight, the main event will have a hard time coming close to matching the action I just saw.  What a war, Martinez is one heck of a relentless pressure fighter.  He had Jimenez hurt several times and then finally stopped him in the 12th.  Props to Jimenez he showed a lot of heart and grit staying in the fight until the last round, his legs were gone in the 6th.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2007 - 12:41 AM ET #24

    so what are these units you speak of ?
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    so what are these units you speak of ?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    so what are these units you speak of ?


    As you can see above in my record above a unit for me is $100.  I take it that is what your question was in regards to, I would hope that you know what a unit is in betting terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhand:

    so what are these units you speak of ?


    As you can see above in my record above a unit for me is $100.  I take it that is what your question was in regards to, I would hope that you know what a unit is in betting terms.
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