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    De la hoya vs. Pacquio?????

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    Deathvalli
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 10:57 AM ET #26

    I dont think MP has a chance he is a GREAT boxer .. but De la hoya is WAY bigger naturally he has a much better size / strength advantage.. people underate his speed also he was giving Mayweather hell is that fight and was all over his Pac man is much smaller at -200 its an amazing deal IMO for de la hoya .. maybe a lil on a stoppage too for + I would think..
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    I dont think MP has a chance he is a GREAT boxer .. but De la hoya is WAY bigger naturally he has a much better size / strength advantage.. people underate his speed also he was giving Mayweather hell is that fight and was all over his Pac man is much smaller at -200 its an amazing deal IMO for de la hoya .. maybe a lil on a stoppage too for + I would think..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 12:52 PM ET #27

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 2:31 PM ET #28

    this is goin to be good fight to watch, can't wait. Can't underestimate Manny. He's tenacious and doesn't give up. He's lightning quick and studies his opponent very well. is able to find the opponent weak spot and keeps pounding at it. This going to be good David vs Goliath...not betting just    GL and enjoy the show
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    this is goin to be good fight to watch, can't wait. Can't underestimate Manny. He's tenacious and doesn't give up. He's lightning quick and studies his opponent very well. is able to find the opponent weak spot and keeps pounding at it. This going to be good David vs Goliath...not betting just    GL and enjoy the show
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 8:13 PM ET #29

    maiden-
    i've been waiting for this fight too.. when everyone else was crying mismatch!! and putting down dlh and crying what a wipeout it was going to be, i was hyping this fight up and i give pac a real shot.  do i think he's going to win?  no.  but i believe he'll be at least competitive... i don't think it's going to happen, but i'd love to see dlh ko'd by pac..even if my money's on dlh, i'd wouldn't be dissapointed one bit :)
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    maiden-
    i've been waiting for this fight too.. when everyone else was crying mismatch!! and putting down dlh and crying what a wipeout it was going to be, i was hyping this fight up and i give pac a real shot.  do i think he's going to win?  no.  but i believe he'll be at least competitive... i don't think it's going to happen, but i'd love to see dlh ko'd by pac..even if my money's on dlh, i'd wouldn't be dissapointed one bit :)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2008 - 9:11 PM ET #30

    Manny by unanimous decision
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    Manny by unanimous decision
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2008 - 10:12 PM ET #31

    Devils dont do it . DLH is a natrual middleweight .. junior middle .. 154 no problem .. he fought hopkins.. you think Pac man would ever step in the ring with him ? lol .. DLH should win this no prob I like Pac man dont get me wrong but from a betting point of view this has got to go to DLH .. 2-1 is not too bad either
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    Devils dont do it . DLH is a natrual middleweight .. junior middle .. 154 no problem .. he fought hopkins.. you think Pac man would ever step in the ring with him ? lol .. DLH should win this no prob I like Pac man dont get me wrong but from a betting point of view this has got to go to DLH .. 2-1 is not too bad either
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2008 - 1:58 AM ET #32

    I'm on vegas' side. Manny Pacquio +180
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    I'm on vegas' side. Manny Pacquio +180
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:49 AM ET #33

    Why does everyone like Oscar?
     
    I just saw Oscar at -250, Manny at +200.
     
    Am I the only one who likes Manny here?
     
    I think he has a good chance to win this fight, not to mention at +200, it's a great value.
     
    How come everyone is taking Oscar? I don't get it.
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    Why does everyone like Oscar?
     
    I just saw Oscar at -250, Manny at +200.
     
    Am I the only one who likes Manny here?
     
    I think he has a good chance to win this fight, not to mention at +200, it's a great value.
     
    How come everyone is taking Oscar? I don't get it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 7:55 AM ET #34

    Manny is an amazing fighter Blind .. but Oscar is just too big .. its fighting a Junior Middle vs a Lightweight basically .. natural 150 lbs vs a guy who started at what 115 ? 120 ? even though they will weigh about the same Oscar should win this fight .. not a DLH fan myself but at 2-1 right now I will take my odds
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    Manny is an amazing fighter Blind .. but Oscar is just too big .. its fighting a Junior Middle vs a Lightweight basically .. natural 150 lbs vs a guy who started at what 115 ? 120 ? even though they will weigh about the same Oscar should win this fight .. not a DLH fan myself but at 2-1 right now I will take my odds
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 3:07 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathvalli:

    Manny is an amazing fighter Blind .. but Oscar is just too big .. its fighting a Junior Middle vs a Lightweight basically .. natural 150 lbs vs a guy who started at what 115 ? 120 ? even though they will weigh about the same Oscar should win this fight .. not a DLH fan myself but at 2-1 right now I will take my odds
    He started at 106.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathvalli:

    Manny is an amazing fighter Blind .. but Oscar is just too big .. its fighting a Junior Middle vs a Lightweight basically .. natural 150 lbs vs a guy who started at what 115 ? 120 ? even though they will weigh about the same Oscar should win this fight .. not a DLH fan myself but at 2-1 right now I will take my odds
    He started at 106.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 12:51 AM ET #36

    Did Oscar KO Forbes?
    Manny is too fast and will be in and out all night hitting and running.
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    Did Oscar KO Forbes?
    Manny is too fast and will be in and out all night hitting and running.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 1:54 AM ET #37

    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?
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    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?

    Oscar doesn't have a right hook lol.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?

    Oscar doesn't have a right hook lol.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 4:24 AM ET #39

    Dela hoya is a great boxer yes indeed! BUT that was a history already guys...new generation new great boxer was born and dat was PACMAN Manny is for the MONEY remember.....
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    Dela hoya is a great boxer yes indeed! BUT that was a history already guys...new generation new great boxer was born and dat was PACMAN Manny is for the MONEY remember.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 5:20 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    I'm so sick of hearing people say Oscar fought Bernard and Manny fought at 106 when he was 16 years old...so this is a giant mismatch.
     
    Manny entered the ring for the David Diaz fight at 151 pounds. This is not the mismatch its being made out to be.
     
    That being said take Oscar -200. It's not the size "mismatch" that makes him the play its the fact that styles make fights. Pac isn't a GREAT boxer by any stretch. No way in hell he dents Oscar's iron chin with Oscar's great defense. Oscar by KO within 8 rounds, the only question is will it be via the left hook or the right hook?

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 8:32 AM ET #41

    Wee- Thanks 105 lol .. and Oscar would have fought Magarito or possibly Pavlik*wasnt gonna happen.. like Pac man would ever do that no way .. Pac is a sick boxer one of the best P4P .. but I think he is in for trouble. My $$ will be on DLH .. and I will put a small bet on a pac decision just in case but I think DLH will stop him if he trys to trade with him .. too big
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    Wee- Thanks 105 lol .. and Oscar would have fought Magarito or possibly Pavlik*wasnt gonna happen.. like Pac man would ever do that no way .. Pac is a sick boxer one of the best P4P .. but I think he is in for trouble. My $$ will be on DLH .. and I will put a small bet on a pac decision just in case but I think DLH will stop him if he trys to trade with him .. too big
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 9:48 AM ET #42

    DLHPAC
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 9:53 AM ET #43

    Manny=money.
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    Manny=money.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 11:50 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html



    He did say "came into the ring" meaning how much he put on overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html



    He did say "came into the ring" meaning how much he put on overnight.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 12:35 PM ET #45

    This will be a better fight than most think
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    This will be a better fight than most think
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #46

    It should be a good fight...I wouldn't count MP out...think it will be a close fight and over 9.5...speed and power...against an aging DLH
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    It should be a good fight...I wouldn't count MP out...think it will be a close fight and over 9.5...speed and power...against an aging DLH
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2008 - 4:36 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html

    Oh boy try rereading what I wrote "bro". Pac Man entered the ring vs. David Diaz at between 150-151 pounds. In boxing most boxers "cut" a good amount of weight for the weigh in and then gain it back by the time they enter the ring. Yes Pac weighed in at 134.5 but that was after a serious weight cut.

    The weight difference will not be huge like the OP's were claiming but Oscar wins this easily none to less. Oscar is a bigger stronger JMM with better defense and a better chin and JMM gave Pac hell. Now anyone who plays bodog, hit them with that email telling them you want the live betting to open in java like every other sport. Easy money to be made in this one, if bodog makes it easy to get to. Pac Man could keep this close early and then take Oscar by KO when the odds soar in the middle rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Not even close bro. 134.5....

    https://philboxing.com/news/story-17323.html

    Oh boy try rereading what I wrote "bro". Pac Man entered the ring vs. David Diaz at between 150-151 pounds. In boxing most boxers "cut" a good amount of weight for the weigh in and then gain it back by the time they enter the ring. Yes Pac weighed in at 134.5 but that was after a serious weight cut.

    The weight difference will not be huge like the OP's were claiming but Oscar wins this easily none to less. Oscar is a bigger stronger JMM with better defense and a better chin and JMM gave Pac hell. Now anyone who plays bodog, hit them with that email telling them you want the live betting to open in java like every other sport. Easy money to be made in this one, if bodog makes it easy to get to. Pac Man could keep this close early and then take Oscar by KO when the odds soar in the middle rounds.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    Oh boy try rereading what I wrote "bro". Pac Man entered the ring vs. David Diaz at between 150-151 pounds. In boxing most boxers "cut" a good amount of weight for the weigh in and then gain it back by the time they enter the ring. Yes Pac weighed in at 134.5 but that was after a serious weight cut.

    The weight difference will not be huge like the OP's were claiming but Oscar wins this easily none to less. Oscar is a bigger stronger JMM with better defense and a better chin and JMM gave Pac hell. Now anyone who plays bodog, hit them with that email telling them you want the live betting to open in java like every other sport. Easy money to be made in this one, if bodog makes it easy to get to. Pac Man could keep this close early and then take Oscar by KO when the odds soar in the middle rounds.

    No shit. He didn't have to cut a pound to make that fight. He didn't enter the ring anywhere near that weight. MOST fighters have to cut weight. Manny didn't for that fight and won't have to cut weight here.

    I would be shocked if Manny weighed in at more than 144 tomorrow with rocks in his pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    Oh boy try rereading what I wrote "bro". Pac Man entered the ring vs. David Diaz at between 150-151 pounds. In boxing most boxers "cut" a good amount of weight for the weigh in and then gain it back by the time they enter the ring. Yes Pac weighed in at 134.5 but that was after a serious weight cut.

    The weight difference will not be huge like the OP's were claiming but Oscar wins this easily none to less. Oscar is a bigger stronger JMM with better defense and a better chin and JMM gave Pac hell. Now anyone who plays bodog, hit them with that email telling them you want the live betting to open in java like every other sport. Easy money to be made in this one, if bodog makes it easy to get to. Pac Man could keep this close early and then take Oscar by KO when the odds soar in the middle rounds.

    No shit. He didn't have to cut a pound to make that fight. He didn't enter the ring anywhere near that weight. MOST fighters have to cut weight. Manny didn't for that fight and won't have to cut weight here.

    I would be shocked if Manny weighed in at more than 144 tomorrow with rocks in his pockets.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 7:22 PM ET #49

    Pac weighed in at 142 and DLH at 145.  May place a small bet on Pac and +9.5 rds.
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    Pac weighed in at 142 and DLH at 145.  May place a small bet on Pac and +9.5 rds.
     
     
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    isn't Pac a southpaw, that has to factor in the fight. DLH hasn't faced many of them.
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    isn't Pac a southpaw, that has to factor in the fight. DLH hasn't faced many of them.
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