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    Brian Vera +800 vs Chipolte Jr

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    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 3:16 AM ET #1

    the spoiled brat coming in out of shape.  changed to a 10 round fight and got word Vera is goign to come out strong.  vera is a live dog here.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    the spoiled brat coming in out of shape.  changed to a 10 round fight and got word Vera is goign to come out strong.  vera is a live dog here.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 3:21 AM ET #2

    “But I didn’t think it was right to give Chavez Jr. the added luxury of not having to make 168 pounds without setting up some new parameters on fight night. Without having to work and slim down to meet Bryan at 168 pounds, I thought it was only fair to change the bout from a twelve round contest to a ten round attraction.”

    Although most ringside observers wouldn’t think a ten round stipulation would make much of a difference on fight night, the experienced trainer insists that the abridged contest will make a big difference in terms of pace and strategy.

    “With the added weight limit of 173 pounds, it really doesn’t change our strategy one bit…but the shortened rounds most certainly will change his,” states Ronnie Shields. “We’re really going to find out if Chavez is in fight shape with the contest being ten rounds. Chavez is traditionally a slow starter, but he’ll really have to work at a much faster pace than he wants to in order to win a ten round fight.”

    Conventional wisdom would say that not having to melt down to 168 pounds would


    Read more at https://www.eastsideboxing.com/2013/julio-cesar-chavez-jr-and-bryan-vera-agree-to-173-pound-weight-limit-and-10-round-contest/#MFawJ2C92HvkQx83.99
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    “But I didn’t think it was right to give Chavez Jr. the added luxury of not having to make 168 pounds without setting up some new parameters on fight night. Without having to work and slim down to meet Bryan at 168 pounds, I thought it was only fair to change the bout from a twelve round contest to a ten round attraction.”

    Although most ringside observers wouldn’t think a ten round stipulation would make much of a difference on fight night, the experienced trainer insists that the abridged contest will make a big difference in terms of pace and strategy.

    “With the added weight limit of 173 pounds, it really doesn’t change our strategy one bit…but the shortened rounds most certainly will change his,” states Ronnie Shields. “We’re really going to find out if Chavez is in fight shape with the contest being ten rounds. Chavez is traditionally a slow starter, but he’ll really have to work at a much faster pace than he wants to in order to win a ten round fight.”

    Conventional wisdom would say that not having to melt down to 168 pounds would


    Read more at https://www.eastsideboxing.com/2013/julio-cesar-chavez-jr-and-bryan-vera-agree-to-173-pound-weight-limit-and-10-round-contest/#MFawJ2C92HvkQx83.99
     
    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 3:22 AM ET #3

    shields has confirmed they're coming out of the gate blazing and testing JR for 10 rounds.  live, live dog we have here fellas.  
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    shields has confirmed they're coming out of the gate blazing and testing JR for 10 rounds.  live, live dog we have here fellas.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 4:21 AM ET #4

    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.


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    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 3:04 PM ET #5

    Chavez is going to be 200 lbs in the ring, genius. This is a heavyweight vs a middleweight. And a farce.
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    Chavez is going to be 200 lbs in the ring, genius. This is a heavyweight vs a middleweight. And a farce.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 5:15 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.



    do your homework on brian vera you fckin punk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.



    do your homework on brian vera you fckin punk!
     
    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 5:19 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Chavez is going to be 200 lbs in the ring, genius. This is a heavyweight vs a middleweight. And a farce.

    200lbs is not fight shape he'll be fat and slow....and he won't be coming in @ 200lbs.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Chavez is going to be 200 lbs in the ring, genius. This is a heavyweight vs a middleweight. And a farce.

    200lbs is not fight shape he'll be fat and slow....and he won't be coming in @ 200lbs.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 7:32 PM ET #8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDybA_K8s0

    chavez looks solid.

    good luck to whoevers going to play a +800 with no apparant betting angles or reasoning.

    the ten rounds is probably going to help jr as he now doesnt have to pace himself.




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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDybA_K8s0

    chavez looks solid.

    good luck to whoevers going to play a +800 with no apparant betting angles or reasoning.

    the ten rounds is probably going to help jr as he now doesnt have to pace himself.




     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 7:36 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDybA_K8s0

    chavez looks solid.

    good luck to whoevers going to play a +800 with no apparant betting angles or reasoning.

    the ten rounds is probably going to help jr as he now doesnt have to pace himself.





    your a dope

    chavez jr always starts slow, and chavez fights small

    the 10 rounds helps vera more than chavez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDybA_K8s0

    chavez looks solid.

    good luck to whoevers going to play a +800 with no apparant betting angles or reasoning.

    the ten rounds is probably going to help jr as he now doesnt have to pace himself.





    your a dope

    chavez jr always starts slow, and chavez fights small

    the 10 rounds helps vera more than chavez
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 11:10 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    your a dope

    chavez jr always starts slow, and chavez fights small

    the 10 rounds helps vera more than chavez

    its "you're" and not "your."

    jr ko'd lee in seven which is his best win to date.

    https://compuboxonline.com/compubox-stats-chavez-ko-7-lee/

    took the first three off and then proceeded to double his output in the next four in a twelve round fight.

    fighting in a ten rounder there is a good chance that he wont take off the first three and go right into throwing 50 punches a round and ktfo vera early.

    do you even handicap fights or do you just throw stupid shi-t out there like "i like the over," or  vera is a live dog here," along with "i will leave covers if mayweather doesnt ko canelo +720 to the bank" where you have no reasoning behind any of them?

    chavez is top rank and vera will have to outland jr by 80 punches after being outweighed by 20 pounds to get a draw. 

    you're going to go 0-3 this weekend(adonis is not koing cloud early as you say) after going 0-1 on your stupid floyd by ko "to the bank" play.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


    your a dope

    chavez jr always starts slow, and chavez fights small

    the 10 rounds helps vera more than chavez

    its "you're" and not "your."

    jr ko'd lee in seven which is his best win to date.

    https://compuboxonline.com/compubox-stats-chavez-ko-7-lee/

    took the first three off and then proceeded to double his output in the next four in a twelve round fight.

    fighting in a ten rounder there is a good chance that he wont take off the first three and go right into throwing 50 punches a round and ktfo vera early.

    do you even handicap fights or do you just throw stupid shi-t out there like "i like the over," or  vera is a live dog here," along with "i will leave covers if mayweather doesnt ko canelo +720 to the bank" where you have no reasoning behind any of them?

    chavez is top rank and vera will have to outland jr by 80 punches after being outweighed by 20 pounds to get a draw. 

    you're going to go 0-3 this weekend(adonis is not koing cloud early as you say) after going 0-1 on your stupid floyd by ko "to the bank" play.





     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2013 - 11:15 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    the spoiled brat coming in out of shape.  changed to a 10 round fight and got word Vera is goign to come out strong.  vera is a live dog here.



    who's "word" did you get that vera was going to "come out strong" as you say?

    did this person also give you the "word" to take the over on the corley/ardin fight?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    the spoiled brat coming in out of shape.  changed to a 10 round fight and got word Vera is goign to come out strong.  vera is a live dog here.



    who's "word" did you get that vera was going to "come out strong" as you say?

    did this person also give you the "word" to take the over on the corley/ardin fight?




     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 5:39 PM ET #12

    even when Chavez doesn't train he still able to go a full 10-12 rounds.
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    even when Chavez doesn't train he still able to go a full 10-12 rounds.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 5:56 PM ET #13

    " got word Vera is goign to come out strong" by Jerseyboy89.

    Where did this inside information come from being so vague?... other than Jr has problems making weight as usual.

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    " got word Vera is goign to come out strong" by Jerseyboy89.

    Where did this inside information come from being so vague?... other than Jr has problems making weight as usual.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 5:59 PM ET #14

    Why does anyone even entertain this Jersey moron ?  Still not going to contribute till this fool is gone.
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    Why does anyone even entertain this Jersey moron ?  Still not going to contribute till this fool is gone.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 6:20 PM ET #15

    i generally avoid him but dont take too kindly when somene calls me a "dope."

    what kind of person takes a play that is universally acknowledged as a gimmie(floyd/canelo) and turns a winning night into a losing one(making his play on floyd by ko)?

    i ended up having a very, very small action play on floyd ko(after the line was foolishly bought down to +400 on pinnacle and closing at +500)but like most rationale people had floyd simply to win.

    no experienced gambler would ever have made his whole play on a prop bet. 


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    i generally avoid him but dont take too kindly when somene calls me a "dope."

    what kind of person takes a play that is universally acknowledged as a gimmie(floyd/canelo) and turns a winning night into a losing one(making his play on floyd by ko)?

    i ended up having a very, very small action play on floyd ko(after the line was foolishly bought down to +400 on pinnacle and closing at +500)but like most rationale people had floyd simply to win.

    no experienced gambler would ever have made his whole play on a prop bet. 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 8:58 PM ET #16

    His statement about the prop bet in vegas proves he didn't bet as apparently he is not aware of how Nevada Commission oversees and Las Vegas's sportsbooks are run. I'd Prop bet he never has been to Vegas.

    Maybe in a previous post he made a wager that was in A.C.( and stated he bet it in Las Vegas... They don't allow wagers outside Nevada for Boxing. I wanted to bet Cotto at MGM Bellagio and they posted the odds, but said they don't offer wagers outside the Nevada State Commission.

    I'm not sure if that is still true as this was about half a decade ago, but Vegas is a joke for real sports bettors. Online and offshore offer much more. The risk is that you might not get paid... you have no legal right to claim. I've had problems, but never stiffed. I used maybe 30 offshore sportsbooks since 1999. WSEX and Sportsbook were my first ofthe few starters.

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    His statement about the prop bet in vegas proves he didn't bet as apparently he is not aware of how Nevada Commission oversees and Las Vegas's sportsbooks are run. I'd Prop bet he never has been to Vegas.

    Maybe in a previous post he made a wager that was in A.C.( and stated he bet it in Las Vegas... They don't allow wagers outside Nevada for Boxing. I wanted to bet Cotto at MGM Bellagio and they posted the odds, but said they don't offer wagers outside the Nevada State Commission.

    I'm not sure if that is still true as this was about half a decade ago, but Vegas is a joke for real sports bettors. Online and offshore offer much more. The risk is that you might not get paid... you have no legal right to claim. I've had problems, but never stiffed. I used maybe 30 offshore sportsbooks since 1999. WSEX and Sportsbook were my first ofthe few starters.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 12:27 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.


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    Apologive about Brian Vera now you disrespectul punk.  Brian Vera showed as much heart from a fighter as I've ver seen and was robbed blind.  Give him some respect, I don't care that I lost my bet.  Brian Vera is a true champion and fighter.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Chavez JR sucks but Vera is complete utter garbage. Best case scenario for Vera is he survives the full 10 rounds while enduring the worst beating of his life.

    Vera has broken down some fighters in the past, but those fighters didn't weigh 191 lbs and have a granite chin.

    Vera is outgunned and dare I say outclassed. Chavez JR has an extremely leaky defense but compared to Vera he's Willie Pep. Vera has zero chance. ZERO!

    Having said that I wish Vera the best of luck. I hope he retires Chavez JR.


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    Apologive about Brian Vera now you disrespectul punk.  Brian Vera showed as much heart from a fighter as I've ver seen and was robbed blind.  Give him some respect, I don't care that I lost my bet.  Brian Vera is a true champion and fighter.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 1:28 AM ET #18

    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.
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    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 2:02 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Why does anyone even entertain this Jersey moron ?  Still not going to contribute till this fool is gone.


    Same
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    Why does anyone even entertain this Jersey moron ?  Still not going to contribute till this fool is gone.


    Same
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 2:06 AM ET #20

    timl1899,    He makes prop bets in large amounts but who exactly takes that kind of action ? 
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    timl1899,    He makes prop bets in large amounts but who exactly takes that kind of action ? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.

    well 1)he didn't get schoole by Mora they were tight fights but he won them both.  

    but you called him awful and you're a punk for calling a warrior like Brian Vera that.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.

    well 1)he didn't get schoole by Mora they were tight fights but he won them both.  

    but you called him awful and you're a punk for calling a warrior like Brian Vera that.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 5:04 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.

    1 more thing you disrespectufl punk, Vera is a changed and much improved fighter under Ronnie Shields.  he's dedicated himself to his craft and if you watched him figiht you would know this

    you know 0 about the sport and you're a punk.  show some respect you little snot.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    True champion? He's never won a championship. I feel bad that he got robbed - reminds me of his last fight where he was on his way to losing and got lucky the doctor stopped it in his favor. Or when he got schooled by Sergio Mora twice but got a gift decision both times. Between Corley, Stevenson by early KO, and Vera, how much did you lose this weekend? GTFOH like you said you would hoe.

    1 more thing you disrespectufl punk, Vera is a changed and much improved fighter under Ronnie Shields.  he's dedicated himself to his craft and if you watched him figiht you would know this

    you know 0 about the sport and you're a punk.  show some respect you little snot.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 2:56 PM ET #23

    Jersey wants the attention and you guys give it to him. Name calling behind a computer is pretty cowardly. you can just tell he is no genius. when he came up with that crap about he ain't leaving cause it was exactly like he said was just plain pitiful. jerseyboy
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    Jersey wants the attention and you guys give it to him. Name calling behind a computer is pretty cowardly. you can just tell he is no genius. when he came up with that crap about he ain't leaving cause it was exactly like he said was just plain pitiful. jerseyboy
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 11:20 PM ET #24

    BigPapa21, I'm guessing than Jerseys a teenager. He keeps calling a total stranger a punk and a snot. I agree with you and Mack though he pretty much ruined the forum. This current regime at Covers couldn't care less.  
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    BigPapa21, I'm guessing than Jerseys a teenager. He keeps calling a total stranger a punk and a snot. I agree with you and Mack though he pretty much ruined the forum. This current regime at Covers couldn't care less.  
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    BigPapa21, I'm guessing than Jerseys a teenager. He keeps calling a total stranger a punk and a snot. I agree with you and Mack though he pretty much ruined the forum. This current regime at Covers couldn't care less.  

    buddy, I'll be in the 200's section @ the GGG fight @ MSG next month.  anytime you wanna meet up or catch a fight, let me know.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    BigPapa21, I'm guessing than Jerseys a teenager. He keeps calling a total stranger a punk and a snot. I agree with you and Mack though he pretty much ruined the forum. This current regime at Covers couldn't care less.  

    buddy, I'll be in the 200's section @ the GGG fight @ MSG next month.  anytime you wanna meet up or catch a fight, let me know.  
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