Fight is official.. And yes, call me crazy but I think Bradley is a live dog.. Hes a well rounded fighter who has a major heart.. He does everything well.. Tough as nails, smart, versatile, fast, goes to the body etc.,.
But heres the thing.. He lacks power.. Therefore he wont KO pac..
And as long as Pac stays on his feet, he will get the decision whether he deserves it or not.. Thats how that slimy person Bob Arums Top Rank works.. No way the cash cow loses.. We saw that 3 times vs JMM.. Who clearly beat Pac the 3rd time imo..
Im taking Pac by decision, while Bradley out works and throws the more telling blows...
Then Floyd destroys Pac, sending him into retirement..
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Fight is official.. And yes, call me crazy but I think Bradley is a live dog.. Hes a well rounded fighter who has a major heart.. He does everything well.. Tough as nails, smart, versatile, fast, goes to the body etc.,.
But heres the thing.. He lacks power.. Therefore he wont KO pac..
And as long as Pac stays on his feet, he will get the decision whether he deserves it or not.. Thats how that slimy person Bob Arums Top Rank works.. No way the cash cow loses.. We saw that 3 times vs JMM.. Who clearly beat Pac the 3rd time imo..
Im taking Pac by decision, while Bradley out works and throws the more telling blows...
Then Floyd destroys Pac, sending him into retirement..
I do think Bradley is a very live dog. I think Pacquaio's largest advantage will be when Bradley comes in and out. Sometimes hes a little "robotic" about closing the distance.....which flies against 90% of fighters, but I must put Pac in that other 10%, so he will need to be extremely careful. I think when the fight is "in the pocket - or closer", Bradley is definately a live dog, just not sure how much of the fight will take place in "close quarters". And you're right, its sad that there is absolutely little chance Bradley could get a decision.
Either way, good luck Tim Bradley, and thanks for your dedication to serving our country, that will always be respected and admired.
I agree w/ your assessments Fred
I do think Bradley is a very live dog. I think Pacquaio's largest advantage will be when Bradley comes in and out. Sometimes hes a little "robotic" about closing the distance.....which flies against 90% of fighters, but I must put Pac in that other 10%, so he will need to be extremely careful. I think when the fight is "in the pocket - or closer", Bradley is definately a live dog, just not sure how much of the fight will take place in "close quarters". And you're right, its sad that there is absolutely little chance Bradley could get a decision.
Either way, good luck Tim Bradley, and thanks for your dedication to serving our country, that will always be respected and admired.
I always called Bradley over-achiever. As his athletic skills don't seem way above par, his dedication and work ethic pushes him through. I think currently with Manny seeming to be a distracted fighter, Bradley at his very best, it is perfect timing for Bradley if he were to pull an upset. With that said, at 140lbs, Bradley lacks KO power, something you would need to keep Pac off. I will write more regarding this but for now, I will stay on the more current match-ups that are set over the next few months.
I always called Bradley over-achiever. As his athletic skills don't seem way above par, his dedication and work ethic pushes him through. I think currently with Manny seeming to be a distracted fighter, Bradley at his very best, it is perfect timing for Bradley if he were to pull an upset. With that said, at 140lbs, Bradley lacks KO power, something you would need to keep Pac off. I will write more regarding this but for now, I will stay on the more current match-ups that are set over the next few months.
I always called Bradley over-achiever. As his athletic skills don't seem way above par, his dedication and work ethic pushes him through. I think currently with Manny seeming to be a distracted fighter, Bradley at his very best, it is perfect timing for Bradley if he were to pull an upset. With that said, at 140lbs, Bradley lacks KO power, something you would need to keep Pac off. I will write more regarding this but for now, I will stay on the more current match-ups that are set over the next few months.
JMM has no power at welter and he kept Pac off all night..
I just think you need to hit manny cleanly to keep him guessing/thinking, slowing him down.. Bradley isnt a good as countering as JMM, but he definitely can time and counter well.
Plus his noggin will be an issue..
Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:
I always called Bradley over-achiever. As his athletic skills don't seem way above par, his dedication and work ethic pushes him through. I think currently with Manny seeming to be a distracted fighter, Bradley at his very best, it is perfect timing for Bradley if he were to pull an upset. With that said, at 140lbs, Bradley lacks KO power, something you would need to keep Pac off. I will write more regarding this but for now, I will stay on the more current match-ups that are set over the next few months.
JMM has no power at welter and he kept Pac off all night..
I just think you need to hit manny cleanly to keep him guessing/thinking, slowing him down.. Bradley isnt a good as countering as JMM, but he definitely can time and counter well.
Does anyone question if Bradley is superior to JMM? I don't, as he certainly is at this point in their careers. If JMM and Bradley fought 6 months ago, Bradley would have been a solid -200, -300 favorite.
The only part I don't like about this fight for Bradley is that it's Top Rank vs Top Rank. Boxing is a shady business and this could be a shady fight. You would be surprised what people will do for a few million that essentially sets them up for a lifetime. Would you drop a fight for 4 million guaranteed? Exactly.
Does anyone question if Bradley is superior to JMM? I don't, as he certainly is at this point in their careers. If JMM and Bradley fought 6 months ago, Bradley would have been a solid -200, -300 favorite.
The only part I don't like about this fight for Bradley is that it's Top Rank vs Top Rank. Boxing is a shady business and this could be a shady fight. You would be surprised what people will do for a few million that essentially sets them up for a lifetime. Would you drop a fight for 4 million guaranteed? Exactly.
JMM is in a different league then Bradley. It's an embarrassment to JMM and the fighters he fought.
Bradley has no power. Peterson would have given Bradley all he wanted. Bradley had yet to hurt anyone besides his last fight and his head is his weapon. Peterson took all Ortiz had, and Ortiz is much stringer than Bradley. I was hoping Bradley would fight Ortiz before a Manny fight so the odds would be close enough to bet big. Although Ortiz is a quitter and Bradley is a work-horse... the headbutt would have been his only shot! That's why in previous post I was upset over achiever master head butt Bradley fought a real opponent so I could cash in on that over-rated XXXL HeadSize!
JMM is in a different league then Bradley. It's an embarrassment to JMM and the fighters he fought.
Bradley has no power. Peterson would have given Bradley all he wanted. Bradley had yet to hurt anyone besides his last fight and his head is his weapon. Peterson took all Ortiz had, and Ortiz is much stringer than Bradley. I was hoping Bradley would fight Ortiz before a Manny fight so the odds would be close enough to bet big. Although Ortiz is a quitter and Bradley is a work-horse... the headbutt would have been his only shot! That's why in previous post I was upset over achiever master head butt Bradley fought a real opponent so I could cash in on that over-rated XXXL HeadSize!
Honestly walktheline, I'm surprised you believe that. As far as the politics goes, I agree with you on that because at least we know if anything's a lock is sports... cheating in boxing. Ray Mercer whispering to Ferguson to go down and he'd get paid, to judges under investigation, false rankings, judges ringside get a different fight then we order at home or if we are 6 rows behind the angle might be WAY OFF.LOL!
Honestly walktheline, I'm surprised you believe that. As far as the politics goes, I agree with you on that because at least we know if anything's a lock is sports... cheating in boxing. Ray Mercer whispering to Ferguson to go down and he'd get paid, to judges under investigation, false rankings, judges ringside get a different fight then we order at home or if we are 6 rows behind the angle might be WAY OFF.LOL!
Peterson beat Khan, who Im sure you thought Khan would beat Bradley, and we both know thats not true after Khan was exposed.. Hes too one dimensional,, Bradley is well rounded, versatile.. Does nothing great, but everything well enough
Peterson beat Khan, who Im sure you thought Khan would beat Bradley, and we both know thats not true after Khan was exposed.. Hes too one dimensional,, Bradley is well rounded, versatile.. Does nothing great, but everything well enough
JMM is a HOF, who has Bradley really beat?, JMM has fought and beat way better competition than Bradley, let's see how he does with Manny before we say he is better than JMM. Bradley ducked Khan after he called him out, I'm pretty sure JMM has never ducked anyone, Manny ducked him for years, I haven't heard of anyone ducking Bradley. JMM> Bradley
JMM is a HOF, who has Bradley really beat?, JMM has fought and beat way better competition than Bradley, let's see how he does with Manny before we say he is better than JMM. Bradley ducked Khan after he called him out, I'm pretty sure JMM has never ducked anyone, Manny ducked him for years, I haven't heard of anyone ducking Bradley. JMM> Bradley
Fight is official.. And yes, call me crazy but I think Bradley is a live dog.. Hes a well rounded fighter who has a major heart.. He does everything well.. Tough as nails, smart, versatile, fast, goes to the body etc.,.
But heres the thing.. He lacks power.. Therefore he wont KO pac..
And as long as Pac stays on his feet, he will get the decision whether he deserves it or not.. Thats how that slimy person Bob Arums Top Rank works.. No way the cash cow loses.. We saw that 3 times vs JMM.. Who clearly beat Pac the 3rd time imo..
Im taking Pac by decision, while Bradley out works and throws the more telling blows...
Then Floyd destroys Pac, sending him into retirement..
So you're jealous of Bob Arum for being a success while you're a pathetic loser?? Finish high school, move out of mom's basement, and get a job, dumbass.
Quote Originally Posted by FredTheGodson:
Fight is official.. And yes, call me crazy but I think Bradley is a live dog.. Hes a well rounded fighter who has a major heart.. He does everything well.. Tough as nails, smart, versatile, fast, goes to the body etc.,.
But heres the thing.. He lacks power.. Therefore he wont KO pac..
And as long as Pac stays on his feet, he will get the decision whether he deserves it or not.. Thats how that slimy person Bob Arums Top Rank works.. No way the cash cow loses.. We saw that 3 times vs JMM.. Who clearly beat Pac the 3rd time imo..
Im taking Pac by decision, while Bradley out works and throws the more telling blows...
Then Floyd destroys Pac, sending him into retirement..
So you're jealous of Bob Arum for being a success while you're a pathetic loser?? Finish high school, move out of mom's basement, and get a job, dumbass.
Honestly walktheline, I'm surprised you believe that. As far as the politics goes, I agree with you on that because at least we know if anything's a lock is sports... cheating in boxing. Ray Mercer whispering to Ferguson to go down and he'd get paid, to judges under investigation, false rankings, judges ringside get a different fight then we order at home or if we are 6 rows behind the angle might be WAY OFF.LOL!
The lack of effort that Clottey put up against Pacman was puzzling, to say the least. That's all I needed to know about how these "in-house" fights from Top Rank would go.
JMM is a HOFer and Bradley has yet to take the next step. However, he was only a few fights removed from going life and death with Diaz in their first fight and with Katsidis too. I stand by the belief that Bradley would have been a solid favorite if they fought.
Does this mean anything for Bradley's chances of success against Pacquiao? Of course not. Then again, facts are facts.
Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:
Honestly walktheline, I'm surprised you believe that. As far as the politics goes, I agree with you on that because at least we know if anything's a lock is sports... cheating in boxing. Ray Mercer whispering to Ferguson to go down and he'd get paid, to judges under investigation, false rankings, judges ringside get a different fight then we order at home or if we are 6 rows behind the angle might be WAY OFF.LOL!
The lack of effort that Clottey put up against Pacman was puzzling, to say the least. That's all I needed to know about how these "in-house" fights from Top Rank would go.
JMM is a HOFer and Bradley has yet to take the next step. However, he was only a few fights removed from going life and death with Diaz in their first fight and with Katsidis too. I stand by the belief that Bradley would have been a solid favorite if they fought.
Does this mean anything for Bradley's chances of success against Pacquiao? Of course not. Then again, facts are facts.
I told people round for round exact what Clot-Pac would be. No surprise. The speed was like Oscar vs Pac... Clottey is physically strong, stamina and an overall reminder to me of Hagler (MINUS OFFENSE), and he lost MSG close fight to Cotto. Cotto bad's cut you can fight with, Joe Frazier fought one eyed his career, Clottey hurt his knee and never could put weight on it. He lost movement, punching power, defense, surprise...etc..and went toe-to-toe. That;s why when people said he was finished and Margo was still better, Cotto had 3 career ending fights all in a row. walktheline: I won't argue the BS in boxing politics because I know it first hand, not through reports. Anyhow, I think we get a better fight as Bradley in a fixed fight is more exciting than Mayweather (vs certain opponents) in a real fight. It's like the WWE for Mayweather again!
I told people round for round exact what Clot-Pac would be. No surprise. The speed was like Oscar vs Pac... Clottey is physically strong, stamina and an overall reminder to me of Hagler (MINUS OFFENSE), and he lost MSG close fight to Cotto. Cotto bad's cut you can fight with, Joe Frazier fought one eyed his career, Clottey hurt his knee and never could put weight on it. He lost movement, punching power, defense, surprise...etc..and went toe-to-toe. That;s why when people said he was finished and Margo was still better, Cotto had 3 career ending fights all in a row. walktheline: I won't argue the BS in boxing politics because I know it first hand, not through reports. Anyhow, I think we get a better fight as Bradley in a fixed fight is more exciting than Mayweather (vs certain opponents) in a real fight. It's like the WWE for Mayweather again!
JMM is a HOF, who has Bradley really beat?, JMM has fought and beat way better competition than Bradley, let's see how he does with Manny before we say he is better than JMM. Bradley ducked Khan after he called him out, I'm pretty sure JMM has never ducked anyone, Manny ducked him for years, I haven't heard of anyone ducking Bradley. JMM> Bradley
Hell yea JMM is a HOF.. But at 38, Bradley would whip is ass.
Bradley beat, Peterson, Alexander, Holt.. Some really solid fighters... Im not sure JMM would beat any of those guys let alone dominate them like Bradley did.. You think Bradley would go life and death with bum ass Baby Bull and Katsidis? I think not..
LOL @ Bradley ducking Khan, hes ducking him to the bank fighting Pacman.. You really think he would be fighting Pacman if he stayed with Gary Shaw(which he had to do if he fought Khan)
Get the facts straight before flapping your dicksuckers
Quote Originally Posted by cd2010:
JMM is a HOF, who has Bradley really beat?, JMM has fought and beat way better competition than Bradley, let's see how he does with Manny before we say he is better than JMM. Bradley ducked Khan after he called him out, I'm pretty sure JMM has never ducked anyone, Manny ducked him for years, I haven't heard of anyone ducking Bradley. JMM> Bradley
Hell yea JMM is a HOF.. But at 38, Bradley would whip is ass.
Bradley beat, Peterson, Alexander, Holt.. Some really solid fighters... Im not sure JMM would beat any of those guys let alone dominate them like Bradley did.. You think Bradley would go life and death with bum ass Baby Bull and Katsidis? I think not..
LOL @ Bradley ducking Khan, hes ducking him to the bank fighting Pacman.. You really think he would be fighting Pacman if he stayed with Gary Shaw(which he had to do if he fought Khan)
Get the facts straight before flapping your dicksuckers
Bradley called out Khan, Khan accepted and agreed to 50/50, Bradley then changed his mind that is ducking.
I hope you don't really think Peterson, Holt or Alexander are better than JMM, that is joke, after Manny beats Bradley he will be a after thought, he will never be in the HOF. Peterson will lose to Khan (got a bs hometown dec), Holt sucks Thomas Davis KO'd him on Friday night fights years ago, Alexander got lucky in his last fight (hometown dec.). JMM is a smaller fighter than all of those guys so he wouldn't fight them anyways, he was in his 120's a couple of years ago.
Bradley called out Khan, Khan accepted and agreed to 50/50, Bradley then changed his mind that is ducking.
I hope you don't really think Peterson, Holt or Alexander are better than JMM, that is joke, after Manny beats Bradley he will be a after thought, he will never be in the HOF. Peterson will lose to Khan (got a bs hometown dec), Holt sucks Thomas Davis KO'd him on Friday night fights years ago, Alexander got lucky in his last fight (hometown dec.). JMM is a smaller fighter than all of those guys so he wouldn't fight them anyways, he was in his 120's a couple of years ago.
JMM is a smaller fighter than all of those guys so he wouldn't fight them anyways, he was in his 120's a couple of years ago.
This has been my point exactly. Mayweather fights him and doesn't give
Marquez time to adjust to his new weight in your mid 30s through tough
career is taxing. Mayweather stated after knocking down Marquez that he wouldn't try to KO him as he didn't think he could (he meant to say without the risk). JMM has gotten heat for fighter bigger guys, and "Life or Death"... those fighters he fought wish he had a super one punch power as it would have given them back years of a career. Props to Bradley... the man has deserved where he is... I just think he is an over-achiever who has great fundamentals. The rest I won't name, cause in 10 years, no one else will either.
Quote Originally Posted by cd2010:
JMM is a smaller fighter than all of those guys so he wouldn't fight them anyways, he was in his 120's a couple of years ago.
This has been my point exactly. Mayweather fights him and doesn't give
Marquez time to adjust to his new weight in your mid 30s through tough
career is taxing. Mayweather stated after knocking down Marquez that he wouldn't try to KO him as he didn't think he could (he meant to say without the risk). JMM has gotten heat for fighter bigger guys, and "Life or Death"... those fighters he fought wish he had a super one punch power as it would have given them back years of a career. Props to Bradley... the man has deserved where he is... I just think he is an over-achiever who has great fundamentals. The rest I won't name, cause in 10 years, no one else will either.
FredTheGodson: You said perfectly "Some really solid fighters" regarding this mix crew of these guys. Just what they are, and that is not a knock on them, they are not HOF, etc... Just becoming where they are is unthinkable to people who have no clue, except other top athletes. I try to keep it professional remarks with athletes as most just want to do their best... any different then anyone else?
FredTheGodson: You said perfectly "Some really solid fighters" regarding this mix crew of these guys. Just what they are, and that is not a knock on them, they are not HOF, etc... Just becoming where they are is unthinkable to people who have no clue, except other top athletes. I try to keep it professional remarks with athletes as most just want to do their best... any different then anyone else?
So you're jealous of Bob Arum for being a success while you're a pathetic loser?? Finish high school, move out of mom's basement, and get a job, dumbass.
why all the hate ,,fred makes some excellent points in a well stated manner--take a look at your last comment--how would you like fred to say that to you,,come on now--
Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
So you're jealous of Bob Arum for being a success while you're a pathetic loser?? Finish high school, move out of mom's basement, and get a job, dumbass.
why all the hate ,,fred makes some excellent points in a well stated manner--take a look at your last comment--how would you like fred to say that to you,,come on now--
why all the hate ,,fred makes some excellent points in a well stated manner--take a look at your last comment--how would you like fred to say that to you,,come on now--
Its the slimey person comment. Pretty sure anyway. Really those comments are unacceptable. Poor judgement.
Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:
why all the hate ,,fred makes some excellent points in a well stated manner--take a look at your last comment--how would you like fred to say that to you,,come on now--
Its the slimey person comment. Pretty sure anyway. Really those comments are unacceptable. Poor judgement.
This thread until (excusing a few icons, or jokes, or comments... these are expected).
Up to post 20, it was consistently boxing and even better many different opinions... now it came which is understandable on post 21, then to 22... and it seems to cause the "SWAY" effect.
This continuous bickering over 5 or 6 straight posts does nothing to add positive and solid readers and contributors to this site. Yes on thread where people make crazy remarks, then you get back and forth... but WHY RUIN (to prevent members interested and gaining new ones) A COMPLETELY GREAT POST. Yes the original info is there but people get tired and annoyed reading personal info after reading back n forth reviews of fighters. Then... ZZZzzz. I'm just as guilty in point, I can't back up time but I can do better in choices. GL to all on the forum!
CASE IN POINT:
This thread until (excusing a few icons, or jokes, or comments... these are expected).
Up to post 20, it was consistently boxing and even better many different opinions... now it came which is understandable on post 21, then to 22... and it seems to cause the "SWAY" effect.
This continuous bickering over 5 or 6 straight posts does nothing to add positive and solid readers and contributors to this site. Yes on thread where people make crazy remarks, then you get back and forth... but WHY RUIN (to prevent members interested and gaining new ones) A COMPLETELY GREAT POST. Yes the original info is there but people get tired and annoyed reading personal info after reading back n forth reviews of fighters. Then... ZZZzzz. I'm just as guilty in point, I can't back up time but I can do better in choices. GL to all on the forum!
Its the slimey person comment. Pretty sure anyway. Really those comments are unacceptable. Poor judgement.
Exactly. What's the basis for a bigoted attack on Bob Arum? The boxing game is fairly corrupt and he may or may not be above that BUT there are no accusations that he committed felonies let alone killed anyone.
Quote Originally Posted by BigPapa21:
Its the slimey person comment. Pretty sure anyway. Really those comments are unacceptable. Poor judgement.
Exactly. What's the basis for a bigoted attack on Bob Arum? The boxing game is fairly corrupt and he may or may not be above that BUT there are no accusations that he committed felonies let alone killed anyone.
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