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    At what point do we blame manny for not fighting?

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    Goldfisch
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2010 - 6:55 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

    So guess who said he's retiring now.




    where did you hear that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

    So guess who said he's retiring now.




    where did you hear that from?

     
    mohjo
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2010 - 3:38 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

    So guess who said he's retiring now.




    He is so full of shit it is shocking

    Does he really think we believe he'll retire for 2 years and then come back at age 34-35

    What a dumbass he is

    I hope this fight is made but Mayweather is being beyond retarded about this now and if this is a trick to get things rolling is a pathetic one at best

     

    Fuck You Floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

    So guess who said he's retiring now.




    He is so full of shit it is shocking

    Does he really think we believe he'll retire for 2 years and then come back at age 34-35

    What a dumbass he is

    I hope this fight is made but Mayweather is being beyond retarded about this now and if this is a trick to get things rolling is a pathetic one at best

     

    Fuck You Floyd

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2010 - 4:34 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Mohjo his stance has changed because he really wants the fight..I can see him eventually caving in completely, because there are rumours on the net that his political campaign cost him a lot of money and the easiest way to recoup this is have one 40 million fight. Pacquaio doesn't want to fight Margerhito/Cotto or Foreman. Realistically what is there to gain from these fights? He could fight all 3 back to back and make nowhere near the same money.

    Getting onto your other point. Yes of course boxers should be doing what they can to clean up the sport but I can't repeat myself enough, its not Floyd Mayweathers place to set the rules and this is the problem Pacquaio has. If the commision tell him you have to give blood until the day of the fight he will do that (as stated above). What he is not willing to do is have Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of how they fight. I mean Mohjo considering all the contversey do you really think Pacquaio would take a chance and juice for this fight? And what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    Since Pacquaio bended to 14 days (and Floyd changing the rules and Flioyd senior saying the my son will never fight Pacquaio) I have noticed a massive shift on public opinion. Where before the boxing world was well and truly split 50/50 if you troll the web now and look at surveys as to who is at fault you will see now 70% agree with Pacquaio.

    Now I am not a Pactard or a Flomo. I admire both fighters and think they are both extremely unique. I would love to know who the better man is for sure. People will forever be divided but IMO its Floyd's fault this fight will probably never happen..I know we will never agree

    Mohjo somehow I told you so doesnt quite do it.

    Mayweather NEVER wanted the fight..I am thrilled he has been exposed quite frankly as a coward..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Mohjo his stance has changed because he really wants the fight..I can see him eventually caving in completely, because there are rumours on the net that his political campaign cost him a lot of money and the easiest way to recoup this is have one 40 million fight. Pacquaio doesn't want to fight Margerhito/Cotto or Foreman. Realistically what is there to gain from these fights? He could fight all 3 back to back and make nowhere near the same money.

    Getting onto your other point. Yes of course boxers should be doing what they can to clean up the sport but I can't repeat myself enough, its not Floyd Mayweathers place to set the rules and this is the problem Pacquaio has. If the commision tell him you have to give blood until the day of the fight he will do that (as stated above). What he is not willing to do is have Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of how they fight. I mean Mohjo considering all the contversey do you really think Pacquaio would take a chance and juice for this fight? And what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    Since Pacquaio bended to 14 days (and Floyd changing the rules and Flioyd senior saying the my son will never fight Pacquaio) I have noticed a massive shift on public opinion. Where before the boxing world was well and truly split 50/50 if you troll the web now and look at surveys as to who is at fault you will see now 70% agree with Pacquaio.

    Now I am not a Pactard or a Flomo. I admire both fighters and think they are both extremely unique. I would love to know who the better man is for sure. People will forever be divided but IMO its Floyd's fault this fight will probably never happen..I know we will never agree

    Mohjo somehow I told you so doesnt quite do it.

    Mayweather NEVER wanted the fight..I am thrilled he has been exposed quite frankly as a coward..

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2010 - 4:51 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Mohjo somehow I told you so doesnt quite do it.

    Mayweather NEVER wanted the fight..I am thrilled he has been exposed quite frankly as a coward..

    It could just be a stupid method to get the upper hand and I still think it's bullshit but like I've said his attitude toward most things are beyond stupid and I like you still think he whoops Manny's ass if it happens

    But this is making him look more stupid than usual and that's saying a lot considering we're talking about Mayweather

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Mohjo somehow I told you so doesnt quite do it.

    Mayweather NEVER wanted the fight..I am thrilled he has been exposed quite frankly as a coward..

    It could just be a stupid method to get the upper hand and I still think it's bullshit but like I've said his attitude toward most things are beyond stupid and I like you still think he whoops Manny's ass if it happens

    But this is making him look more stupid than usual and that's saying a lot considering we're talking about Mayweather

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2010 - 2:29 AM ET #80

    Floyd  is using this so he can gain ALL the  terms on Pac-man (that being the blood test the exact days he wants it).

    Does anyone actually believe a fighter in his prime is going to take 2 years off and then come back rusty?

    He's having two more fights at most and he's done, same for Pac-man.

    The more they "hold out" the more the media and fans .. want the fight.. just more money for both of them.

    Remember Freddie Roach didn't want Yuri foreman he said Yuri was too tall, and they ran away from Mosley who begged for the fight, and look what happened to Mosley against Floyd.

    People may hate the way Floyd conducts his business but always realize boxing is their CAREER it's their JOB.

    Make as much money as you can with the least amount of brain damage and call it career :)

    Floyd will NOT retire, Pac-man and Floyd are the only two fighters in boxing who can generate more hype and news before even entering the ring.


    Remember everything Floyd and Pac do it's all for publicity and hype, we can go back and forth but the final say will be Pac-man (if he agrees to the blood test or not). - Floyd is just twisting his arm by threatening to retire and fans will push Pac to do the blood testing.

    Again lets hope these two can get a fight, if not let them BOTH  RETIRE!-

    What's left out there a slow hand wrapped Margarito who else is left in the division?

    They need each other if they want a Mega payday!
                                  


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    Floyd  is using this so he can gain ALL the  terms on Pac-man (that being the blood test the exact days he wants it).

    Does anyone actually believe a fighter in his prime is going to take 2 years off and then come back rusty?

    He's having two more fights at most and he's done, same for Pac-man.

    The more they "hold out" the more the media and fans .. want the fight.. just more money for both of them.

    Remember Freddie Roach didn't want Yuri foreman he said Yuri was too tall, and they ran away from Mosley who begged for the fight, and look what happened to Mosley against Floyd.

    People may hate the way Floyd conducts his business but always realize boxing is their CAREER it's their JOB.

    Make as much money as you can with the least amount of brain damage and call it career :)

    Floyd will NOT retire, Pac-man and Floyd are the only two fighters in boxing who can generate more hype and news before even entering the ring.


    Remember everything Floyd and Pac do it's all for publicity and hype, we can go back and forth but the final say will be Pac-man (if he agrees to the blood test or not). - Floyd is just twisting his arm by threatening to retire and fans will push Pac to do the blood testing.

    Again lets hope these two can get a fight, if not let them BOTH  RETIRE!-

    What's left out there a slow hand wrapped Margarito who else is left in the division?

    They need each other if they want a Mega payday!
                                  


     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 12:00 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by gamble04:

    Manny said he would take the tests immediately after the fight. 


    yeah right ...

    when it does not matter ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble04:

    Manny said he would take the tests immediately after the fight. 


    yeah right ...

    when it does not matter ...


     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 12:03 AM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by mohjo:

    He is so full of shit it is shocking

    Does he really think we believe he'll retire for 2 years and then come back at age 34-35

    What a dumbass he is

    I hope this fight is made but Mayweather is being beyond retarded about this now and if this is a trick to get things rolling is a pathetic one at best

     

    Fuck You Floyd




    are you one of the Internet tough Guys aka ITG

    Would you dare tell Floyd to go F*** himself  if you were in the same room with him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mohjo:

    He is so full of shit it is shocking

    Does he really think we believe he'll retire for 2 years and then come back at age 34-35

    What a dumbass he is

    I hope this fight is made but Mayweather is being beyond retarded about this now and if this is a trick to get things rolling is a pathetic one at best

     

    Fuck You Floyd




    are you one of the Internet tough Guys aka ITG

    Would you dare tell Floyd to go F*** himself  if you were in the same room with him?


     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 10:19 AM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by mpeiu81:

    BINGO, congratulations, you are now smarter than 90 percent of COVERS

    actually you don't know much about physiology. Post fight testing is bollocks...in other words, doesn't mean jack shit. Easily beatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeiu81:

    BINGO, congratulations, you are now smarter than 90 percent of COVERS

    actually you don't know much about physiology. Post fight testing is bollocks...in other words, doesn't mean jack shit. Easily beatable.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 10:22 AM ET #84

    O' yeah...Floyd never said he was retiring. Come on guys, this is a handicapping site...fact checking is your friend.
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    O' yeah...Floyd never said he was retiring. Come on guys, this is a handicapping site...fact checking is your friend.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 2:45 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    O' yeah...Floyd never said he was retiring. Come on guys, this is a handicapping site...fact checking is your friend.

    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    O' yeah...Floyd never said he was retiring. Come on guys, this is a handicapping site...fact checking is your friend.

    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 5:19 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    are you one of the Internet tough Guys aka ITG

    Would you dare tell Floyd to go F*** himself  if you were in the same room with him?


    No but that doesn't have anything to do with it

    I obviously meant it towards his negotiation tactics

    I've been in the same room as the guy many times and if you live in Vegas you know his boys will shot you b'c they've done it multiple times

    Not trying to be tuff at all

    Ever heard of expression of speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:




    are you one of the Internet tough Guys aka ITG

    Would you dare tell Floyd to go F*** himself  if you were in the same room with him?


    No but that doesn't have anything to do with it

    I obviously meant it towards his negotiation tactics

    I've been in the same room as the guy many times and if you live in Vegas you know his boys will shot you b'c they've done it multiple times

    Not trying to be tuff at all

    Ever heard of expression of speech

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 5:20 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2010 - 2:55 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.

    I missed that...got me lol...sorta. I don't believe him though. He's at that age where his prime is coming to a close. Fighters that are on his sort of athletic level start to show signs of slowing and etc around 33. From my research, 35 is the cut-off for being in ones prime. 

    I've been reading every article that comes out and everyone close to him says its bullshit. Ellerbe, Roger, etc. If he was retiring, then why is a Pacauiao fight still being negotiated. He'll fight another 2-3 before he calls it a day. Especially when he's making 30M+/pop.

    We've all seen the 24/7's where he talks about what he's throwing around at the book. When your dropping 20k on games...imagine what a bad beat for him would look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    you might want to take your own advice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z9-ikC-9E

    Of course 90% of the shit that comes out of this guy's mouth is BS so who knows.

    I missed that...got me lol...sorta. I don't believe him though. He's at that age where his prime is coming to a close. Fighters that are on his sort of athletic level start to show signs of slowing and etc around 33. From my research, 35 is the cut-off for being in ones prime. 

    I've been reading every article that comes out and everyone close to him says its bullshit. Ellerbe, Roger, etc. If he was retiring, then why is a Pacauiao fight still being negotiated. He'll fight another 2-3 before he calls it a day. Especially when he's making 30M+/pop.

    We've all seen the 24/7's where he talks about what he's throwing around at the book. When your dropping 20k on games...imagine what a bad beat for him would look like.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2010 - 2:49 AM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    I missed that...got me lol...sorta. I don't believe him though. He's at that age where his prime is coming to a close. Fighters that are on his sort of athletic level start to show signs of slowing and etc around 33. From my research, 35 is the cut-off for being in ones prime. 

    I've been reading every article that comes out and everyone close to him says its bullshit. Ellerbe, Roger, etc. If he was retiring, then why is a Pacauiao fight still being negotiated. He'll fight another 2-3 before he calls it a day. Especially when he's making 30M+/pop.

    We've all seen the 24/7's where he talks about what he's throwing around at the book. When your dropping 20k on games...imagine what a bad beat for him would look like.

    Seen him betting at the Suncoast and not only does it drop a few thousand but he bets for about 3-5 others in the few hundreds range

    It was like a party line of degenerates who were betting w/ house money

    Wonder if he loses or wins more often

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    I missed that...got me lol...sorta. I don't believe him though. He's at that age where his prime is coming to a close. Fighters that are on his sort of athletic level start to show signs of slowing and etc around 33. From my research, 35 is the cut-off for being in ones prime. 

    I've been reading every article that comes out and everyone close to him says its bullshit. Ellerbe, Roger, etc. If he was retiring, then why is a Pacauiao fight still being negotiated. He'll fight another 2-3 before he calls it a day. Especially when he's making 30M+/pop.

    We've all seen the 24/7's where he talks about what he's throwing around at the book. When your dropping 20k on games...imagine what a bad beat for him would look like.

    Seen him betting at the Suncoast and not only does it drop a few thousand but he bets for about 3-5 others in the few hundreds range

    It was like a party line of degenerates who were betting w/ house money

    Wonder if he loses or wins more often

     
    McNulty
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2010 - 9:48 PM ET #90

    ^ Good info mohjo.

    I read today that Mayweather says he's fighting in December on his twitter.
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    ^ Good info mohjo.

    I read today that Mayweather says he's fighting in December on his twitter.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2010 - 3:05 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    ^ Good info mohjo.

    I read today that Mayweather says he's fighting in December on his twitter.

    I hope you dont believe that! Until he signed LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    ^ Good info mohjo.

    I read today that Mayweather says he's fighting in December on his twitter.

    I hope you dont believe that! Until he signed LOL.

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