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    budwiser
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 10:20 PM ET #1

    Here comes Floyd telling McGregor he'll wear 8 oz gloves instead of 10.

    Obviously this would make more likely the fight doesn't go the distance prop.  How much (not much at all or significant) is up for debate.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Here comes Floyd telling McGregor he'll wear 8 oz gloves instead of 10.

    Obviously this would make more likely the fight doesn't go the distance prop.  How much (not much at all or significant) is up for debate.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 10:24 PM ET #2

    This fight is getting bad press and this may be Floyd's way of creating more buzz.  They can't sell out the arena, it's overpriced and tickets are much less on the open market, which is embarrassing for a big fight and horrible press.
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    This fight is getting bad press and this may be Floyd's way of creating more buzz.  They can't sell out the arena, it's overpriced and tickets are much less on the open market, which is embarrassing for a big fight and horrible press.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 10:29 PM ET #3

    Will be interesting to see if the odds move if they agree to it.

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    Will be interesting to see if the odds move if they agree to it.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 10:36 PM ET #4

    From what I read the2 oz MATTERS.  Increase in speed and power.

    But I don't know from experience.  If anyone does please let us know thanks.
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    From what I read the2 oz MATTERS.  Increase in speed and power.

    But I don't know from experience.  If anyone does please let us know thanks.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2017 - 2:11 PM ET #5

    Looks like the commission rejected it...so no go
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    Looks like the commission rejected it...so no go
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 1:03 AM ET #6

    I read where both fighters will present their case at the Nevada Athletic Commission's next meeting scheduled for August 16 ,,,if they want to use eight ounce gloves.


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    I read where both fighters will present their case at the Nevada Athletic Commission's next meeting scheduled for August 16 ,,,if they want to use eight ounce gloves.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 8:27 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I read where both fighters will present their case at the Nevada Athletic Commission's next meeting scheduled for August 16 ,,,if they want to use eight ounce gloves.



    There would have to be a special exception made for that to happen because it is mandatory in Nevada for fights over 147 pounds to be contested with 10 oz gloves.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I read where both fighters will present their case at the Nevada Athletic Commission's next meeting scheduled for August 16 ,,,if they want to use eight ounce gloves.



    There would have to be a special exception made for that to happen because it is mandatory in Nevada for fights over 147 pounds to be contested with 10 oz gloves.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 11:15 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:


    There would have to be a special exception made for that to happen because it is mandatory in Nevada for fights over 147 pounds to be contested with 10 oz gloves.  


    Correct....

    The regulation also stipulates that the commission will only be allowed to deviate from the ruling is if there is a title on the line...and for that reason I feel it will stay at 10 oz. gloves..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:


    There would have to be a special exception made for that to happen because it is mandatory in Nevada for fights over 147 pounds to be contested with 10 oz gloves.  


    Correct....

    The regulation also stipulates that the commission will only be allowed to deviate from the ruling is if there is a title on the line...and for that reason I feel it will stay at 10 oz. gloves..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 11:52 PM ET #9

    this fight aint going past 7. mayweather by KO easy.
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    this fight aint going past 7. mayweather by KO easy.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2017 - 1:16 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    this fight aint going past 7. mayweather by KO easy.


    I really can't see it going that far ..McGregor has only fought a total of 37 MAA rounds in 24 fights ...avg 1.5 rounds a fight .. granted they are 5 min rounds ...but still ..he's not conditioned to go a lot of rounds.   If the fight goes over 3 rounds I will be surprised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    this fight aint going past 7. mayweather by KO easy.


    I really can't see it going that far ..McGregor has only fought a total of 37 MAA rounds in 24 fights ...avg 1.5 rounds a fight .. granted they are 5 min rounds ...but still ..he's not conditioned to go a lot of rounds.   If the fight goes over 3 rounds I will be surprised...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2017 - 7:26 PM ET #11

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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2017 - 5:47 PM ET #12

    Yeah 16th fellas we'll find out.  Decision.  If you're wagering on this fight you have to watch if the line moves, especially the over/unders, go the distance, and knockout odds. 

    So check the odds before the decision with screen shots or whatever then come back later and see what's changed.  Or if it hasn't changed.

    According to Malignaggi most important about switch to 8 oz gloves is it's harder to block punches.  Less padding.
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    Yeah 16th fellas we'll find out.  Decision.  If you're wagering on this fight you have to watch if the line moves, especially the over/unders, go the distance, and knockout odds. 

    So check the odds before the decision with screen shots or whatever then come back later and see what's changed.  Or if it hasn't changed.

    According to Malignaggi most important about switch to 8 oz gloves is it's harder to block punches.  Less padding.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2017 - 5:55 PM ET #13

    Or the cynical guy in me says the sharps will know the decision before it's made and the odds changes are already baked in..

    But, we'll see.
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    Or the cynical guy in me says the sharps will know the decision before it's made and the odds changes are already baked in..

    But, we'll see.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 12:22 AM ET #14

    Commission Approved! I am fairly surprised. Lighter weight gloves mean not only is there more power and speed, but also effects defense. Smaller gloves means less area to cover up.

    I think this favors Connor is a couple of ways. 1. More power for him is a bonus if he can somehow connect with Floyd. Makes the crazy Connor KO a little more likely. 2. If Floyd is use to using 10oz for defense, then there will be some extra room to hit him instead of the gloves. Changes what punches and how many punches can get through.

    I am on Floyd still, but everything I can think of about smaller gloves favors Connor.
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    Commission Approved! I am fairly surprised. Lighter weight gloves mean not only is there more power and speed, but also effects defense. Smaller gloves means less area to cover up.

    I think this favors Connor is a couple of ways. 1. More power for him is a bonus if he can somehow connect with Floyd. Makes the crazy Connor KO a little more likely. 2. If Floyd is use to using 10oz for defense, then there will be some extra room to hit him instead of the gloves. Changes what punches and how many punches can get through.

    I am on Floyd still, but everything I can think of about smaller gloves favors Connor.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 1:20 AM ET #15

    The 40-year-old Mayweather mostly has fought with eight-ounce gloves during his 20-year pro career, but has used 10-ounce gloves for his three fights contested above 147 pounds (Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez). The 29-year-old McGregor is used to fighting in four-ounce gloves, the standard for professional mixed martial arts matches.

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    The 40-year-old Mayweather mostly has fought with eight-ounce gloves during his 20-year pro career, but has used 10-ounce gloves for his three fights contested above 147 pounds (Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez). The 29-year-old McGregor is used to fighting in four-ounce gloves, the standard for professional mixed martial arts matches.

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 1:28 AM ET #16

    The line on McGregor dropped after this was announced.  The public assuming the change to 8 oz gloves will help McGregor.  It won't. In fact Floyd fought a lot of his career with 8 oz gloves, it makes no difference to him.  If anything the switch to 8 oz favors Floyd winning by stoppage even more.  With that added extra pop i'm more confident than ever that Floyd by stoppage is free money.


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    The line on McGregor dropped after this was announced.  The public assuming the change to 8 oz gloves will help McGregor.  It won't. In fact Floyd fought a lot of his career with 8 oz gloves, it makes no difference to him.  If anything the switch to 8 oz favors Floyd winning by stoppage even more.  With that added extra pop i'm more confident than ever that Floyd by stoppage is free money.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 3:47 PM ET #17

    Floyd by stoppage lol. Guy hasn't stopped anyone in 15 years. Not counting the Ortiz cheap shot. Fight goes distance.

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    Floyd by stoppage lol. Guy hasn't stopped anyone in 15 years. Not counting the Ortiz cheap shot. Fight goes distance.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2017 - 7:19 PM ET #18

    So McGregor odds dropped, but odds of going the distance barely moved if at all despite more knockout power in the gloves.   Strange, right?

    So what can we make of this. A more even fight, more likely to go the distance as Floyd can't put away McGregor by dominating the fight.  McGregor is less likely to quit, an time is McGregor's enemy.

    Conclusion the glove change helps McGregor, if we're assuming the odds are true and follow the likely result. 
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    So McGregor odds dropped, but odds of going the distance barely moved if at all despite more knockout power in the gloves.   Strange, right?

    So what can we make of this. A more even fight, more likely to go the distance as Floyd can't put away McGregor by dominating the fight.  McGregor is less likely to quit, an time is McGregor's enemy.

    Conclusion the glove change helps McGregor, if we're assuming the odds are true and follow the likely result. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2017 - 12:47 AM ET #19

    these fools are trying EVERYTHING they can to try and sell tix for this joke of a fight. 
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    these fools are trying EVERYTHING they can to try and sell tix for this joke of a fight. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2017 - 1:02 AM ET #20

    they could wear gardening gloves and it wouldn't matter. 
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    they could wear gardening gloves and it wouldn't matter. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2017 - 1:56 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    they could wear gardening gloves and it wouldn't matter. 


    That reminds me of a story from highschool. My friend and I spent an hour trying to convince our other buddy that giving another guy a handjob wasn't so bad. He finally admitted he would do it for $100K but he wanted to wear a gardening glove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    they could wear gardening gloves and it wouldn't matter. 


    That reminds me of a story from highschool. My friend and I spent an hour trying to convince our other buddy that giving another guy a handjob wasn't so bad. He finally admitted he would do it for $100K but he wanted to wear a gardening glove.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2017 - 2:22 AM ET #22

    Im a huge mayweather fan, but i think conor has a chance here, he really wants to take may weather reputation away, but hey it only takes one good punch to knock someone out 

    BOL 
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    Im a huge mayweather fan, but i think conor has a chance here, he really wants to take may weather reputation away, but hey it only takes one good punch to knock someone out 

    BOL 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2017 - 10:53 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by LABOOKIE:

    Im a huge mayweather fan, but i think conor has a chance here, he really wants to take may weather reputation away, but hey it only takes one good punch to knock someone out 

    BOL 

    dont you think the other 49 fighters wanted to take away his reputation but failed???
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    Quote Originally Posted by LABOOKIE:

    Im a huge mayweather fan, but i think conor has a chance here, he really wants to take may weather reputation away, but hey it only takes one good punch to knock someone out 

    BOL 

    dont you think the other 49 fighters wanted to take away his reputation but failed???
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2017 - 12:59 AM ET #24

    Floyd knows Conor is no threat so he doesn't care about glove size. He knows the general public are absolute buffoons when it comes to this stuff and they'll eat up the smaller gloves like a bunch of morons. It's to sell more PPVs. No other reason. He already knows the result of the fight is him winning.

    As for the "Floyd doesn't knock anyone out crap". Only a casual would say something like that. Ignorant to the fact that he spent the first 20 some fights of his career knocking out guys who weren't world class fighters. Guys like McGregor. Against legit world level boxers he made the decision to get on the backfoot and avoid danger. McGregor is nowhere near that level. So no such caution is warranted.
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    Floyd knows Conor is no threat so he doesn't care about glove size. He knows the general public are absolute buffoons when it comes to this stuff and they'll eat up the smaller gloves like a bunch of morons. It's to sell more PPVs. No other reason. He already knows the result of the fight is him winning.

    As for the "Floyd doesn't knock anyone out crap". Only a casual would say something like that. Ignorant to the fact that he spent the first 20 some fights of his career knocking out guys who weren't world class fighters. Guys like McGregor. Against legit world level boxers he made the decision to get on the backfoot and avoid danger. McGregor is nowhere near that level. So no such caution is warranted.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2017 - 9:18 AM ET #25

    Go watch Floyd vs Corrales from back in the day and tell me Floyd has no power.

    The beating McGregor is going to take will be 10 times worse than that. He's going to get hurt badly.   

    Can't believe this line is as short as it is.  Floyd was a -8000 favorite vs Berto in his last fight.  And Berto would kill McGregor.

    Anyone betting money on McGregor is absolutely insane.  If the odds were 1,000,000 to 1 then i can understand.  At 3 to 1 its quite possibly the worst wager in the history of planet earth.  






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    Go watch Floyd vs Corrales from back in the day and tell me Floyd has no power.

    The beating McGregor is going to take will be 10 times worse than that. He's going to get hurt badly.   

    Can't believe this line is as short as it is.  Floyd was a -8000 favorite vs Berto in his last fight.  And Berto would kill McGregor.

    Anyone betting money on McGregor is absolutely insane.  If the odds were 1,000,000 to 1 then i can understand.  At 3 to 1 its quite possibly the worst wager in the history of planet earth.  






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