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#1 Posted: 8/2/2012 1:51:09 PM
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#2 Posted: 8/2/2012 2:24:25 PM
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#3 Posted: 8/2/2012 10:55:18 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
when people say that obamacare is the end of freedom as we know it and the worst thing to ever happen to humanity, i wonder where the hyperbole comes from?
They will eventually get over the Obamacare issue,they cried, kicked,and screamed when social security,medicare,and medicaid were implemented
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#4 Posted: 8/4/2012 7:13:31 AM
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#5 Posted: 8/4/2012 7:18:11 AM
The problem is the democrats couldn't sell water in the desert. |
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#6 Posted: 8/4/2012 11:48:40 AM
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#7 Posted: 8/4/2012 3:34:32 PM You choose not to listen to the objections and complaints and keep spouting this line that. "Once we see what is in it, we will love it" Bullshit.
From how it was passed, to the windfall for insurance agencies, to the fact that it does nothing to offer free market solutions to a serious problem, and in fact just puts a heavier burden by de-funding medicare, and creating a whole new slew of liabilities. It is a fuckjob from the word go.
Not only that but now the Government, has precedence to dictate our health care/ lifestyle. More taxes for behaviors that the controllers deem unhealthy. More regulation of procedures, that will lead to old people not getting hip replacements etc.
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#8 Posted: 8/4/2012 3:52:55 PM
that being said, there have to be some people who actually benefit from this. i'd like to know who they are.
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#9 Posted: 8/4/2012 3:55:06 PM
What is so wrong with actually requiring insurance to cover the person who buys the policy?
MANY of the policies "offered" to people under the guise of insurance is garbage..full of loopholes, high deductibles and co-pays, low limits and exceptions all over the place.
The issue isnt "Obamacare" to me, it is evaluating what insurance is..and all "Obamacare" does for the most part is raise the bar of coverage and stop companies from kicking people out.
What good is a policy that does not cover or has such high co-pays that the person is better off not even having the coverage?
There was a few yrs time where I had to go the side route and purchase insurance outside of an employer..and the coverage is crap unless you actually pay for it.
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#10 Posted: 8/4/2012 4:43:38 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:
One would think that the concept of health coverage for children and preventing insurance companies from dropping cancer patients would be a good thing.
The problem is the democrats couldn't sell water in the desert.
not know for their salesmanship indeed... but in some ways they are not needing to sell it to the people... some people are able to grasp the idea... others believe it is an attack on religion and everything they hold dearly...
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#11 Posted: 8/5/2012 2:06:24 PM
Are we just going to pretend that things like the gold tax were not hidden in there?
Stuff like that should land someone in jail. |
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#12 Posted: 8/5/2012 2:12:17 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:
Wall, there are definitely some good aspects. I can't argue with the fact that increasing coverage is good. What I am saying is, what about the other 5,999 pages of crap that is attached to it?
Are we just going to pretend that things like the gold tax were not hidden in there?
Stuff like that should land someone in jail.
That happens all the time, as we all know..the gambling money bill tacked onto something else.
I doubt PACs would ever allow their slaves to stop with the tack on funzies we allow with legislation being passed..but for sure it is a bad thing in general.
I am also not sure I am against a gold tax per say..its an asset and trades on the open market, I would suggest it be treated like any other similar investment for taxation purposes.
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#13 Posted: 8/6/2012 10:52:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by No_Contest:
They will eventually get over the Obamacare issue,they cried, kicked,and screamed when social security,medicare,and medicaid were implemented
stellar comparisons
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#14 Posted: 8/6/2012 10:54:47 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:
Wall, there are definitely some good aspects. I can't argue with the fact that increasing coverage is good. What I am saying is, what about the other 5,999 pages of crap that is attached to it?
Are we just going to pretend that things like the gold tax were not hidden in there?
Stuff like that should land someone in jail.
the statist cowards prefer their laws made this way, in the dark, in secret, behind closed doors
 its for the best
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#15 Posted: 8/7/2012 11:59:29 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:
One would think that the concept of health coverage for children and preventing insurance companies from dropping cancer patients would be a good thing.
The problem is the democrats couldn't sell water in the desert.
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#16 Posted: 8/10/2012 3:06:50 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
everything is always an attack on religion, freedom of religion and maybe one or two other things.
Its funny to watch them play victim after they are being persecuted when they are the persecutors now a days... but of course their view of persecution is in the bible
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