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Author:	[Politics] Topic: Dan Cathy, Chick-Fil-A President
No_Contest	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1030 Location: Mississippi	#1 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:11:17 PM I don't understand why there is such a big hoopdeedoo over Dan Cathy expressing his values and biblical principles on happy marriage. If i was in his position i wouldn't publicly express my views toward a specific group of people if I thought my views would offend that group,but at the same time Chick-Fil-A does not discriminate against gays.So i don't see any reason to boycott a good business like Chick-Fil-A,they make a pretty good chicken sandwich.My Grand Daddy told me a long time ago,"Boy if you wear your feelings on the bottom of your shoes they will always get stepped on"
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MVP Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16607 Location: United States	#2 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:22:27 PM i don't eat there. i can only imagine what kind of antibiotic and hormone infested chicken product they serve at that place. however, if the guy said he only believed in a different kind of traditional marriage popular in the south, i.e. same race marriages, i imagine the boycotts would be greater and people might have less of a problem with them. but to me, there's really no difference. if his god wanted two people of the same sex to be married, he would have made the anatomy accordingly. if another person's god wanted people of different races to marry, he would have made them the same color. i can come up with a god to justify any discrimination.
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Ktrain	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5255 Location: California	#3 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:34:54 PM The guy can say what he wants as long as he is willing to live with the consequences of what he says considering the position he is in. Personally not a huge Chick-Fil-A fan myself but I'm sure some people are. I personally won't eat there because of what he said. However, I wouldn't bother someone that does choose to eat there because of this. I think people should be allowed to marry whether happy or not. It doesn't bother me. I'm not quite sure why it bothers Mr. Cathy so much, but clearly it does. I'm just glad we live in a country where he can express his beliefs. I would ask him why God made people happy if he didn't want them to fornicate/marry each other. Of course, that is if you believe in God in the first place. Helloooooo SirJohnDrake!!!!!
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depeche2	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 66822 Location: Illinois	#4 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:39:58 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Ktrain: The guy can say what he wants as long as he is willing to live with the consequences of what he says considering the position he is in. Personally not a huge Chick-Fil-A fan myself but I'm sure some people are. I personally won't eat there because of what he said. However, I wouldn't bother someone that does choose to eat there because of this. I think people should be allowed to marry whether happy or not. It doesn't bother me. I'm not quite sure why it bothers Mr. Cathy so much, but clearly it does. I'm just glad we live in a country where he can express his beliefs. I would ask him why God made people happy if he didn't want them to fornicate/marry each other. Of course, that is if you believe in God in the first place. Helloooooo SirJohnDrake!!!!! His answer is going to be that God doesn't make people happy, that it's a choice and that those who makes that choice are sinners. And his comments have been way beyond being against happy marriage. Lots of people are against happy marriage. Read up on this guy and the hate groups he supports.
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Ktrain	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5255 Location: California	#5 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:44:55 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2: His answer is going to be that God doesn't make people happy, that it's a choice and that those who makes that choice are sinners. And his comments have been way beyond being against happy marriage. Lots of people are against happy marriage. Read up on this guy and the hate groups he supports. Yeah it was kind of a rhetorical question I guess. I would love to ask him to source it, obviously he would choose the bible. Because that book is sooooooooo accurate and would never stray from the truth or exaggerate in the least! People living in whales, walking through fires, parting seas, every animal living peacefully on an ark, virginal conception, etc....... I think I would reference wiki before I referenced the bible.
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47624 Location: United States	#6 Posted: 7/31/2012 10:54:22 PM Dan Cathy= moron
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No_Contest	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1030 Location: Mississippi	#7 Posted: 7/31/2012 11:03:02 PM Just wondering why does it seem like being happy is the #1 sin for some people. Why don't those same bible thumpers have a strong public opposition to "other sins' like adultery,bearing false witness against thy neighbor,fornication, etc. And was Adam & Eve married? I Need a theologian out there to help me with this one!
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ClubDirt	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16607 Location: United States	#8 Posted: 7/31/2012 11:14:19 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by No_Contest: Just wondering why does it seem like being happy is the #1 sin for some people. Why don't those same bible thumpers have a strong public opposition to "other sins' like adultery,bearing false witness against thy neighbor,fornication, etc. And was Adam & Eve married? I Need a theologian out there to help me with this one! do as i say, not as i do (and not as much of the bible says). to these types, religion isn't a way to live, it's a way to justify preexisting prejudices, a way to feel better by being better than someone else. they wouldn't know jesus if he reappeared and smacked them in the face.
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Captain Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5255 Location: California	#9 Posted: 8/1/2012 1:02:45 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt: do as i say, not as i do (and not as much of the bible says). to these types, religion isn't a way to live, it's a way to justify preexisting prejudices, a way to feel better by being better than someone else. they wouldn't know jesus if he reappeared and smacked them in the face. I always find it interesting how Christians claim he is a loving and tolerant God.............. unless you don't adhere to the bible according to how they happen to interpret it or perceive it.
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All-Star Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 11744 Location: Alabama	#10 Posted: 8/1/2012 1:33:50 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Rahm Emanuel= moron
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Veteran Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4723 Location: United States	#11 Posted: 8/1/2012 1:59:57 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Ktrain: The guy can say what he wants as long as he is willing to live with the consequences of what he says considering the position he is in. Personally not a huge Chick-Fil-A fan myself but I'm sure some people are. I personally won't eat there because of what he said. However, I wouldn't bother someone that does choose to eat there because of this. I think people should be allowed to marry whether happy or not. It doesn't bother me. I'm not quite sure why it bothers Mr. Cathy so much, but clearly it does. I'm just glad we live in a country where he can express his beliefs. I would ask him why God made people happy if he didn't want them to fornicate/marry each other. Of course, that is if you believe in God in the first place. Helloooooo SirJohnDrake!!!!! I agree. And other people can choose to be offended by the comments and express it by not going there. Everybody has their choice in this matter. I on the other hand choose not to go there cause it is crap.
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Captain Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6738 Location: Nevada	#12 Posted: 8/1/2012 3:06:54 PM this is a free country to speak to spend money and patronize to not the government should stay the darn out of the way!!!!!!!!!
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All-Star Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 12204 Location: United States	#13 Posted: 8/1/2012 3:15:56 PM Quote Posted by no contest: I don't understand why there is such a big hoopdeedoo over Dan Cathy expressing his values and biblical principles on happy marriage. If i was in his position i wouldn't publicly express my views toward a specific group of people if I thought my views would offend that group,but at the same time Chick-Fil-A does not discriminate against gays.So i don't see any reason to boycott a good business like Chick-Fil-A,they make a pretty good chicken sandwich.My Grand Daddy told me a long time ago,"Boy if you wear your feelings on the bottom of your shoes they will always get stepped on" --------------------------------------------------------------- Exactly!!... What a great country... America the beautiful!!
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 11851 Location: United States	#14 Posted: 8/1/2012 3:26:07 PM I agree of their rights per se. With that being said, when the issue is one of reducing a tax base by way of donations, there must be a reasonable line, no? I mean, purely from a techinical standpoint, a group could qualify under 501(c)(3) as a non-profit, yet be an Al Qaeda sympathizer. But in this case, there is the right to express and the right to organize and protest, provided no one is harmed.
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Rookie Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 702 Location: United States	#15 Posted: 8/1/2012 4:59:31 PM The biggest problem I have with this is not CFA or the people who oppose it, its the government officals who are trying to intervene. Mainly the Boston mayor and Rahm Emanuel. Any public official that tries to use their position to prevent a business from entering who has commited no crime and is in good financial standing should be charged with a crime. Emanuel especially. He made his comments about the situation and keeping them out of Chicago, the same day he welcomed Louis Farrakhan. He welcome a known anti-semite but condemn a business who has, according to the law, done absolutely nothing wrong.
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Captain Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6738 Location: Nevada	#16 Posted: 8/1/2012 5:10:46 PM can we have an openly religious Christian or Muslim mayor now exclude happy owned businesses? friggin disgusting what these politicians do ohh look out.....the thought police are after you next
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Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2719 Location: Texas	#17 Posted: 8/2/2012 12:04:03 AM Yo' WALL I can't frame your qoute but... Dan Cathy=Moron QOUTE .......your post as a Cova's MODERATER no less, was...................obviously, so short sighted, I would be willing to say.... The SINGLE most unbeeleeevable FOOLISH qoute to underestimate any national company's ONE DAY fast food SALES in the history of this GREAT COUNTRY I personally know people who spent 45 minutes in line today, had my own children deterred by such a wait at 3 pm no less, and HEARD of conspirators pull to front of drive thru's and STOP/PROTEST(imagine that classy move) that I can NEVER remember such a rebuke to those fascists mayors of Chicago and Boston, that OBVIOUSLY, the majority of American citizens STRONGLY FAVOR traditional marriage over NON. Must units had to close around 5 pm because they ran out of product Didn't stop them from selling a shitload of gift cards or give out coupons to waiting unfulfilled, HUNGRY supporters Just the good ole CAPITALIST system working in it's finest FORM You could not have been more WRONG in the eyes of AMERICA's free market voices I even saw a Wendy's marquee say "Eat @ Chick Fil A" Still some 97 days till Realville' returns to America
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dl36	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BetJamaica.com \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 22375 Location: United States	#18 Posted: 8/2/2012 12:07:08 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt: i don't eat there. i can only imagine what kind of antibiotic and hormone infested chicken product they serve at that place. however, if the guy said he only believed in a different kind of traditional marriage popular in the south, i.e. same race marriages, i imagine the boycotts would be greater and people might have less of a problem with them. but to me, there's really no difference. if his god wanted two people of the same sex to be married, he would have made the anatomy accordingly. if another person's god wanted people of different races to marry, he would have made them the same color. i can come up with a god to justify any discrimination. pretty simple strategy... groups of people have/been are using it for 1000s of years
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47624 Location: United States	#19 Posted: 8/2/2012 12:24:18 AM Crusher, If you are going to try and rail on me, can you at least make sense in the process?
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Captain Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6738 Location: Nevada	#20 Posted: 8/2/2012 2:35:32 AM so wall st. is he a moron for being a traditional christian and believing what most of them do? or is he a moron for answering a direct question honestly? he will never change his beliefs...should he have lied and sinned? is the issue is that he runs a corporation? what is it that irks you about him. im cool with gays and im cool with religious people who think otherwise even though i disagree. is emmanuel denying business ok when he is visited by an anti semite person hater farrakhan? it seems rahm is the moron here. cant an american speak their mind anymore?
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47624 Location: United States	#21 Posted: 8/2/2012 2:45:19 AM A few things, which seem very obvious to me. First and greatest, the guy claims to be Christian yet acts in an opposite way of the creator of his belief system. Christ would not act this way and when "Christians" selectively practice their faith and rationalize their biases off mixed, erroneous portions of their faith I find it less than admirable. If anything Christ would not support dividing people over scriptorial tangents, He was and is about bringing people together and accepting/loving all, irregardless of differences.
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Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47624 Location: United States	#22 Posted: 8/2/2012 2:53:12 AM Next (phone posting problem on last message)- Dan needs to take a page out of another greater leaders book, Marriot who is as or more conservative has the right approach. You leave your personal opinions at home and away from work. He is mixing personal beliefs with his business and I find it a flawed choice and I take issue with it. People rationalizing their biases (or worse in some cases) off the back of religeon and/or spectacles like this are not what make humanity and this country better, it is a sad day when one innocent group is targeted and we patronize guys like this and his business in support of his misguided beliefs.
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Captain Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6738 Location: Nevada	#23 Posted: 8/2/2012 3:03:12 AM Ok thats a legitimate argument. Ill accept that Christ would not hate gays anymore than he would hate person or tax collectors...he embraced them. Anti homosexuality is a product of religions ....muslim and christian but produces some pretty nasty thoughts about a group of gentically and envormentally altered people.....who should be considered part of our diverse world...or Gods creation for that matter if so inclined. I dont think he descriminates though but i disagree that he should have kept his mouth shut. To do so he would be untrue to himself which is a big sin in mky book....dont live a lie. Thx for answering.
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All-Star Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 11744 Location: Alabama	#24 Posted: 8/2/2012 10:17:46 AM "it's a shame that the happy community that asks for tolerance is so intolerant of other opinions" http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-appreciation-day-212900480.html
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MVP Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16607 Location: United States	#25 Posted: 8/2/2012 10:27:25 AM if i was a christian who loved jesus and his teachings, i would be the first to boycott or criticize a bigot like cathy. but he's worse than a regular bigot because he hijacks my religion to use it for hate and ignorance and the opposite of what jesus was about. truly,, people like cathy are the anti-christ. instead of love thy neighbior and treat everyone like you'd want to be treated, it's hate and discrimination because people are different from you and you want to make your group feel better about themselves by bringing another group down that has done nothing to you. and he's a fuckin hypocrite and a moron. so, the true christians should be more pissed than the rest of us about someone like cathy. as a non-christian, i just don't like bigots/racists. it bothers me more when they use religion to spread their hatred and ignorance because religion can be a tool to manipulate people and get them to join your cause. however, i think these government officials who say chick fil a shouldn't be in their cities need to shut the darn up and learn their job. all they are doing is sounding like idiots and getting first amendment people who don't care as much about happy discrimination fired up about it.
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