Grothe is out, but that may not hurt them much. BJ Daniels RFr, from Tallahassee Lincoln, is the real deal at qb. Lincoln is a powerhouse high football team, and this guy was good. He did not get offered by FSU, cause we secured EJ Manuel early that year. He is more talented than Grothe, but of course Grothe has the experience and was the offensive leader. I really dont see much of a difference between the two and is not influencing my pick.
USF rush defense is. They can not stop the run up the middle. They are averaging 143 yards per game and the first three games have been against
Wow, thats not good against that competition. I love our backs and they will be running it up the gut all night . The middle of the line is soft and so are the LBs..they do have speed on the outside. Jimbo is going to control the clock and keep their defense on the field.
On the flip side they run a spread offense. FSU notoriously has a tough time with teams running the spread. In the favor of FSU, is a weak USF offensive line. I think even our light and depthless line will be able to apply pressure.
Here is an intangible you may want to take into account if you are not from FL. USF desperately wants to be part of the FL Football picture. They still talk about the Auburn upset from a few years back. This is the BIGGEST game EVER for their program. They are going to go all out. I dont think there is much they can do to stop our offense, but they will leave it all on the field. They have nothing to lose.
I am going to play this game the closer it gets to saturday. I want to see the forecast. FSU is awful in the rain and I would never lay money on them if there is even a sprinkle in the air. Ill play up to -17 if the weather is good.
GL
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Here's what you need to know about this game.
Grothe is out, but that may not hurt them much. BJ Daniels RFr, from Tallahassee Lincoln, is the real deal at qb. Lincoln is a powerhouse high football team, and this guy was good. He did not get offered by FSU, cause we secured EJ Manuel early that year. He is more talented than Grothe, but of course Grothe has the experience and was the offensive leader. I really dont see much of a difference between the two and is not influencing my pick.
USF rush defense is. They can not stop the run up the middle. They are averaging 143 yards per game and the first three games have been against
Wow, thats not good against that competition. I love our backs and they will be running it up the gut all night . The middle of the line is soft and so are the LBs..they do have speed on the outside. Jimbo is going to control the clock and keep their defense on the field.
On the flip side they run a spread offense. FSU notoriously has a tough time with teams running the spread. In the favor of FSU, is a weak USF offensive line. I think even our light and depthless line will be able to apply pressure.
Here is an intangible you may want to take into account if you are not from FL. USF desperately wants to be part of the FL Football picture. They still talk about the Auburn upset from a few years back. This is the BIGGEST game EVER for their program. They are going to go all out. I dont think there is much they can do to stop our offense, but they will leave it all on the field. They have nothing to lose.
I am going to play this game the closer it gets to saturday. I want to see the forecast. FSU is awful in the rain and I would never lay money on them if there is even a sprinkle in the air. Ill play up to -17 if the weather is good.
I know that I had predicted FSU to ROMP in this game vs. USF, BUT, BUT I just remembered, are they going to be the REAL FSU team that came out & TROUNCED BYU OR are they going to be the team that STRUGGLED BIG time against a hapless Jacksonville State team? Going into the 4TH qtr, Jacksonville State lead FSU 9-7. I still see FSU winning this game, even though they are a Jekyl & Hyde team, but by how many? I MIGHT have to do a 3 team 10 point teaser which includes FSU & bring the spread down to 4 / 4 1/2. I normally go with my first instinct & rarely change my mind, but in this case, the RARITY might happen here.
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I know that I had predicted FSU to ROMP in this game vs. USF, BUT, BUT I just remembered, are they going to be the REAL FSU team that came out & TROUNCED BYU OR are they going to be the team that STRUGGLED BIG time against a hapless Jacksonville State team? Going into the 4TH qtr, Jacksonville State lead FSU 9-7. I still see FSU winning this game, even though they are a Jekyl & Hyde team, but by how many? I MIGHT have to do a 3 team 10 point teaser which includes FSU & bring the spread down to 4 / 4 1/2. I normally go with my first instinct & rarely change my mind, but in this case, the RARITY might happen here.
Ill tell you what I told people using that logic for BYU. If you take Jax St game into account than you should not be betting a FSU game. That logic is flawed for several reasons.
1. I was at the game. It started pouring at 3:00p, game was at 6:00p. You could barely see with crazy amount of rain pouring. That did not slow until the second half. The field was a wreck because of it.
2. We had two days of practice coming off a last second lost to our biggest rival. Do you really think the players even gave one second of thought to Jax St or do you think they were still thinking about the fact they took the ball to the 2 yard line in the season opener and couldnt get it in.
3. We put up 400 yards of offense. Fumble on the 2 yard line for one score. Missed a couple kicks cause of the sloppy field. Jax St did not bring it to FSU by any means.
You would not know any of this if you are just looking at a box score.
FSU is going to dominate the clock and put up a lot of points on the ground this weekend. But go with your gut if Jax St is scaring you.
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LRpisano,
Ill tell you what I told people using that logic for BYU. If you take Jax St game into account than you should not be betting a FSU game. That logic is flawed for several reasons.
1. I was at the game. It started pouring at 3:00p, game was at 6:00p. You could barely see with crazy amount of rain pouring. That did not slow until the second half. The field was a wreck because of it.
2. We had two days of practice coming off a last second lost to our biggest rival. Do you really think the players even gave one second of thought to Jax St or do you think they were still thinking about the fact they took the ball to the 2 yard line in the season opener and couldnt get it in.
3. We put up 400 yards of offense. Fumble on the 2 yard line for one score. Missed a couple kicks cause of the sloppy field. Jax St did not bring it to FSU by any means.
You would not know any of this if you are just looking at a box score.
FSU is going to dominate the clock and put up a lot of points on the ground this weekend. But go with your gut if Jax St is scaring you.
Ill tell you what I told people using that logic for BYU. If you take Jax St game into account than you should not be betting a FSU game. That logic is flawed for several reasons.
1. I was at the game. It started pouring at 3:00p, game was at 6:00p. You could barely see with crazy amount of rain pouring. That did not slow until the second half. The field was a wreck because of it.
2. We had two days of practice coming off a last second lost to our biggest rival. Do you really think the players even gave one second of thought to Jax St or do you think they were still thinking about the fact they took the ball to the 2 yard line in the season opener and couldnt get it in.
3. We put up 400 yards of offense. Fumble on the 2 yard line for one score. Missed a couple kicks cause of the sloppy field. Jax St did not bring it to FSU by any means.
You would not know any of this if you are just looking at a box score.
FSU is going to dominate the clock and put up a lot of points on the ground this weekend. But go with your gut if Jax St is scaring you.
UMSUX, Thanks a lot for the info, bro!!! Yes, I was just going by the box score & also, remembering FSU's bad defense night against Miami. I just might take you up on betting Florida State. Again, thanks for the info!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by UMSUXUFSWALLOWS:
LRpisano,
Ill tell you what I told people using that logic for BYU. If you take Jax St game into account than you should not be betting a FSU game. That logic is flawed for several reasons.
1. I was at the game. It started pouring at 3:00p, game was at 6:00p. You could barely see with crazy amount of rain pouring. That did not slow until the second half. The field was a wreck because of it.
2. We had two days of practice coming off a last second lost to our biggest rival. Do you really think the players even gave one second of thought to Jax St or do you think they were still thinking about the fact they took the ball to the 2 yard line in the season opener and couldnt get it in.
3. We put up 400 yards of offense. Fumble on the 2 yard line for one score. Missed a couple kicks cause of the sloppy field. Jax St did not bring it to FSU by any means.
You would not know any of this if you are just looking at a box score.
FSU is going to dominate the clock and put up a lot of points on the ground this weekend. But go with your gut if Jax St is scaring you.
UMSUX, Thanks a lot for the info, bro!!! Yes, I was just going by the box score & also, remembering FSU's bad defense night against Miami. I just might take you up on betting Florida State. Again, thanks for the info!!!
UMSUX, Thanks a lot for the info, bro!!! Yes, I was just going by the box score & also, remembering FSU's bad defense night against Miami. I just might take you up on betting Florida State. Again, thanks for the info!!!
Haha, your welcome, but dont expect a lot of "solid" d from FSU. We are still blowing assignments as you may recollect from the Miami game. USF is not Miami though. They dont have the O Line, Recievers or QB...I put those in order of importance for Miami (i dont think Harris is a good as the time his line is giving him. Any QB worth his salt will make a throw to a wide open reciever)..sorry back on track. FSU D is not great, still lacking pass rush and safeties are playing out of position. Also FSU's players are trying to make plays instead of sticking with assignments. They bite HARD. Its painful to watch, but they have had a defensive touchdown in each of the last four games...
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Quote Originally Posted by LRpisano:
UMSUX, Thanks a lot for the info, bro!!! Yes, I was just going by the box score & also, remembering FSU's bad defense night against Miami. I just might take you up on betting Florida State. Again, thanks for the info!!!
Haha, your welcome, but dont expect a lot of "solid" d from FSU. We are still blowing assignments as you may recollect from the Miami game. USF is not Miami though. They dont have the O Line, Recievers or QB...I put those in order of importance for Miami (i dont think Harris is a good as the time his line is giving him. Any QB worth his salt will make a throw to a wide open reciever)..sorry back on track. FSU D is not great, still lacking pass rush and safeties are playing out of position. Also FSU's players are trying to make plays instead of sticking with assignments. They bite HARD. Its painful to watch, but they have had a defensive touchdown in each of the last four games...
Guys BYU had like 3 ints thrown and two fumbles in that game against fsu....FSU kicker sucks ass missed like 4 fgs so far....yes grothe is out having a freshman qb doesnt mean that that team will suck...look at tate forcier at michigan...i might just play the over if it dont rain...GL
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Guys BYU had like 3 ints thrown and two fumbles in that game against fsu....FSU kicker sucks ass missed like 4 fgs so far....yes grothe is out having a freshman qb doesnt mean that that team will suck...look at tate forcier at michigan...i might just play the over if it dont rain...GL
bkg1010 - that girl is hot isn't she? what an ass! The woman on your avatar looks hot to me also... shit, I did a double take the first time I saw her. Something about that skimpy shirt and saluting with the American flag behind her...
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bkg1010 - that girl is hot isn't she? what an ass! The woman on your avatar looks hot to me also... shit, I did a double take the first time I saw her. Something about that skimpy shirt and saluting with the American flag behind her...
You guys shouldn't over think the room on this game. We are not asking FSU to win by 3 touchdowns they only need to cover 2 touchdowns +/- a point. Without Grothe at QB for USF the mobility factor has been taken away, and FSU can actually plan to apply pressure.
FSU...kinda large!
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You guys shouldn't over think the room on this game. We are not asking FSU to win by 3 touchdowns they only need to cover 2 touchdowns +/- a point. Without Grothe at QB for USF the mobility factor has been taken away, and FSU can actually plan to apply pressure.
You guys shouldn't over think the room on this game. We are not asking FSU to win by 3 touchdowns they only need to cover 2 touchdowns +/- a point. Without Grothe at QB for USF the mobility factor has been taken away, and FSU can actually plan to apply pressure.
FSU...kinda large!
Don't know if you looked at the stat book for USF's last game. Yes it was Charleston Southern, but mobility factor is still there...maybe not to the same effect, but B.J. Daniels rushed for 105 yards and 2TD's on 8 carries. Just a thought...
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Quote Originally Posted by 20658:
You guys shouldn't over think the room on this game. We are not asking FSU to win by 3 touchdowns they only need to cover 2 touchdowns +/- a point. Without Grothe at QB for USF the mobility factor has been taken away, and FSU can actually plan to apply pressure.
FSU...kinda large!
Don't know if you looked at the stat book for USF's last game. Yes it was Charleston Southern, but mobility factor is still there...maybe not to the same effect, but B.J. Daniels rushed for 105 yards and 2TD's on 8 carries. Just a thought...
This a alumni payback check. USF has played nobody so far Andrews will get the D in order and confuse the freshman expect Ponder to shine again. If you feel 14 is too much then tease it to 7.5 This is a great game for that fast D to blitz more often .
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This a alumni payback check. USF has played nobody so far Andrews will get the D in order and confuse the freshman expect Ponder to shine again. If you feel 14 is too much then tease it to 7.5 This is a great game for that fast D to blitz more often .
charleston southern will be quite different from the noles, they lost to a good miami team noles role , south fla in trouble without grothe he is the heart and soul of da bulls
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charleston southern will be quite different from the noles, they lost to a good miami team noles role , south fla in trouble without grothe he is the heart and soul of da bulls
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