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Author:	[College Basketball] Topic: Interesting stat to predict National Champion.
earthWake	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 4133 Location: United States	#1 Posted: 2/14/2012 11:29:30 PM Record on neutral court. Now I know to cut down the nets at the final 4 you have to win atleast 6 neutral site games to become National champion, but still something to consider. 2011 National Champion - Uconn: 14-0 (neutral site) 2010 National Champion - Duke: 13-0 (neutral site) 2009 National Champions - UNC 9-1 (neutral site) 2008 National Champion - Kansas: 10-0 (neutral site) 2007 National Champion - Florida: 12-1 (neutral site) These numbers favor two teams so far this season. Duke (5-0) and Marquette (4-0.) If either of these teams win their conference tourny, the numbers say they should win it all.
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TRAIN69	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BetOnline.ag \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 29983 Location: Missouri	#2 Posted: 2/14/2012 11:56:36 PM Mizzou is 4-0
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nropp11	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Captain Joined: May 2006 Posts: 7918 Location: United States	#3 Posted: 2/15/2012 12:21:29 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Mizzou is 4-0 Train, come on now. Wins over ND and Cal weren't "neutral." Game w/ Illinois wasn't technically "neutral." You're reaching. But yah, this stat means nothing. Can be re-worded to say "If you're a big school and have your conference tournament at a neutral site and win it, then you have a good chance" GL
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TRAIN69	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BetOnline.ag \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 29983 Location: Missouri	#4 Posted: 2/15/2012 12:56:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by nropp11: Train, come on now. Wins over ND and Cal weren't "neutral." Game w/ Illinois wasn't technically "neutral." You're reaching. But yah, this stat means nothing. Can be re-worded to say "If you're a big school and have your conference tournament at a neutral site and win it, then you have a good chance" GL And you're just being "technical".
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fsutomahawk	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2920 Location: Congo	#5 Posted: 2/15/2012 1:25:15 AM That's and interesting stat, but I would let you bet whatever you wanted that Marquette isn't cutting down the nets come April. Duke could be a sleeper team if they get hot from deep in the tourney, but their defense leaves so much to be desired, unlike the above listed teams.
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elsonic	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: MGM Grand \|
Prospect Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 487 Location: California	#6 Posted: 2/15/2012 1:53:18 AM garbage....none of these teams are winning the title lol what a joke
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Veteran Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3240 Location: Maryland	#7 Posted: 2/15/2012 2:16:06 AM Duke relies on the three way too much. They can be really good, when they are dropping, but when they aren't they can be beat by half the tournament field.
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All-Star Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 10616 Location: Massachusetts	#8 Posted: 2/15/2012 10:54:47 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Mizzou is 4-0 I'm all over Missouri to win it all
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earthWake	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 4133 Location: United States	#9 Posted: 2/15/2012 3:16:47 PM Well considering none of the champions in recent memory have had more than one neutral court loss, those numbers would eliminate Mich. St, Kansas and all the one loss teams who don't win their conference tourny.
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j-walk	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 717 Location: United States	#10 Posted: 2/15/2012 3:22:53 PM This is a cool stat, very interesting. I love how everyone jumps on this to attack those 2 teams based on nothing about the neutral court record which is the ONLY point you're making. Good stuff man.
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aszzzbrokerman	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3604 Location: United States	#11 Posted: 2/15/2012 3:28:55 PM The problem with that sample size is that you can find many links. Especially considering this stat where the variable is somewhat implied in the feat you are looking to predict. I.E to win the national championship you must go 6-0 on nuetral court sites.
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earthWake	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 4133 Location: United States	#12 Posted: 2/15/2012 3:32:25 PM Yeah I won't be using it solely just pick National champion. If I'm filling out my bracket and am stuck on a game where I can find no clear advantage, record on neutral court might be the determining factor.
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All-Star Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 11007 Location: Michigan	#13 Posted: 2/15/2012 3:36:05 PM
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TRAIN69	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BetOnline.ag \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 29983 Location: Missouri	#14 Posted: 2/15/2012 4:36:13 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake: Yeah I won't be using it solely just pick National champion. If I'm filling out my bracket and am stuck on a game where I can find no clear advantage, record on neutral court might be the determining factor. Nothin wrong with throwing that in the capping mix, especially when you throw out revenge, travel and situation (sandwich and lookahead games).
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