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Anyone else seeing the Orange coming out

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Strong tomorrow night?

Thought the line would open up perhaps 4.5 admist of these "allegations" and how poorly they have played

Will wait to get 3.5 or possibly 4

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Strong tomorrow night?

Thought the line would open up perhaps 4.5 admist of these "allegations" and how poorly they have played

Will wait to get 3.5 or possibly 4

Thoughts?

 
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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #2

I TOOK IT WHEN IT OPENED AT 3
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I would wait and see if Scoop Jardine is even gonna be playing.....
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he will play all these rumors are bullshit. Some twink with no credibility made up these rumors because they blew a cover vs seton hall in there first game vs them. This is all false.
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he will play all these rumors are bullshit. Some twink with no credibility made up these rumors because they blew a cover vs seton hall in there first game vs them. This is all false.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theorange33:

he will play all these rumors are bullshit. Some twink with no credibility made up these rumors because they blew a cover vs seton hall in there first game vs them. This is all false.


Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO


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Quote Originally Posted by theorange33:

he will play all these rumors are bullshit. Some twink with no credibility made up these rumors because they blew a cover vs seton hall in there first game vs them. This is all false.


Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO


 
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:



Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO




what teams?
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Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty:



Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO




what teams?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jaysvdubwhat:



what teams?


Definitely not going to put it out on a public forum.....
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what teams?


Definitely not going to put it out on a public forum.....
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by BrianLaverty]

Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO]

Dion told boeheim too fuck off thats why he didnt play. Southerland hasnt been rebounding thats why he didnt play. Why would he play scoop if it was true? Come on Im sure you have some reliable source that gave you teams that have been shaving. Nobody knows who you are so why cant you post it on a public forum?
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[Quote: Originally Posted by BrianLaverty]

Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO]

Dion told boeheim too fuck off thats why he didnt play. Southerland hasnt been rebounding thats why he didnt play. Why would he play scoop if it was true? Come on Im sure you have some reliable source that gave you teams that have been shaving. Nobody knows who you are so why cant you post it on a public forum?
 
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Here is something I found, take it for what it's worth..

Syracuse – Seton Hall, First Game – Spread is -7.5, Seton Hall beats the spread. Syracuse fails to cover the spread with 6 minutes left to play, don’t score for 3 minutes, letting Seton Hall come back into the game and beat it.

Syracuse – Marquette. Spread is -2.5 for Marquette. Syracuse is tied late in the game by Kris Joseph. CJ Fair brings it to within 4 points. For the remainder of the game (about a 50 seconds only Scoop takes shots, all of them ill advised or rushed, which basically insures that Marquette covers.

Syracuse – Detroit. Spread is -17.0. Syracuse leads by 14 points with 4 minutes to go. Get outscored 9-6 down the stretch to insure the cover. Scoop fouls, turns the ball over, and misses a free throw in that time that help lead to Detroit beating the spread.

Syracuse – Michigan. Spread is -6.5. Syracuse doesn’t cover at the end after almost beating the spread. Kris and Scoop both have opportunities to make the lead 6 points at the line, both make one and one to keep the lead at a slim 5. Baye can beat the spread at the end by making both, misses both with game and Michigan beats the spread.

Syracuse – NC State. Spread is -12.0. NC State beats it after Syracuse squanders a first half lead.

Syracuse – Iona. Spread is -14.5. Syracuse is covering with 5 minutes to go until they let Iona beat them 16-7 down the stretch to beat the spread.

Syracuse – Providence. Spread is -13.0. Syracuse covers for a good portion of the game, including towards the end of the 2nd half, until Providence roars back and beats the spread.

Coincedence or just bad beats?

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Here is something I found, take it for what it's worth..

Syracuse – Seton Hall, First Game – Spread is -7.5, Seton Hall beats the spread. Syracuse fails to cover the spread with 6 minutes left to play, don’t score for 3 minutes, letting Seton Hall come back into the game and beat it.

Syracuse – Marquette. Spread is -2.5 for Marquette. Syracuse is tied late in the game by Kris Joseph. CJ Fair brings it to within 4 points. For the remainder of the game (about a 50 seconds only Scoop takes shots, all of them ill advised or rushed, which basically insures that Marquette covers.

Syracuse – Detroit. Spread is -17.0. Syracuse leads by 14 points with 4 minutes to go. Get outscored 9-6 down the stretch to insure the cover. Scoop fouls, turns the ball over, and misses a free throw in that time that help lead to Detroit beating the spread.

Syracuse – Michigan. Spread is -6.5. Syracuse doesn’t cover at the end after almost beating the spread. Kris and Scoop both have opportunities to make the lead 6 points at the line, both make one and one to keep the lead at a slim 5. Baye can beat the spread at the end by making both, misses both with game and Michigan beats the spread.

Syracuse – NC State. Spread is -12.0. NC State beats it after Syracuse squanders a first half lead.

Syracuse – Iona. Spread is -14.5. Syracuse is covering with 5 minutes to go until they let Iona beat them 16-7 down the stretch to beat the spread.

Syracuse – Providence. Spread is -13.0. Syracuse covers for a good portion of the game, including towards the end of the 2nd half, until Providence roars back and beats the spread.

Coincedence or just bad beats?

 
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Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO]

Dion told boeheim too fuck off thats why he didnt play. Southerland hasnt been rebounding thats why he didnt play. Why would he play scoop if it was true? Come on Im sure you have some reliable source that gave you teams that have been shaving. Nobody knows who you are so why cant you post it on a public forum?


There's ALOT of people who know who I am.... And I really don't wanna get in trouble or other people in trouble for it... Point Shaving is very serious allegations and I'm not just going to put it out there... especially since I don't have any physical proof.  Syracuse wasn't one of them so I'm not sayin either way.... I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me one bit
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Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO]

Dion told boeheim too fuck off thats why he didnt play. Southerland hasnt been rebounding thats why he didnt play. Why would he play scoop if it was true? Come on Im sure you have some reliable source that gave you teams that have been shaving. Nobody knows who you are so why cant you post it on a public forum?


There's ALOT of people who know who I am.... And I really don't wanna get in trouble or other people in trouble for it... Point Shaving is very serious allegations and I'm not just going to put it out there... especially since I don't have any physical proof.  Syracuse wasn't one of them so I'm not sayin either way.... I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me one bit
 
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Here is something I found, take it for what it's worth..

Syracuse – Seton Hall, First Game – Spread is -7.5, Seton Hall beats the spread. Syracuse fails to cover the spread with 6 minutes left to play, don’t score for 3 minutes, letting Seton Hall come back into the game and beat it.

Syracuse – Marquette. Spread is -2.5 for Marquette. Syracuse is tied late in the game by Kris Joseph. CJ Fair brings it to within 4 points. For the remainder of the game (about a 50 seconds only Scoop takes shots, all of them ill advised or rushed, which basically insures that Marquette covers.

Syracuse – Detroit. Spread is -17.0. Syracuse leads by 14 points with 4 minutes to go. Get outscored 9-6 down the stretch to insure the cover. Scoop fouls, turns the ball over, and misses a free throw in that time that help lead to Detroit beating the spread.

Syracuse – Michigan. Spread is -6.5. Syracuse doesn’t cover at the end after almost beating the spread. Kris and Scoop both have opportunities to make the lead 6 points at the line, both make one and one to keep the lead at a slim 5. Baye can beat the spread at the end by making both, misses both with game and Michigan beats the spread.

Syracuse – NC State. Spread is -12.0. NC State beats it after Syracuse squanders a first half lead.

Syracuse – Iona. Spread is -14.5. Syracuse is covering with 5 minutes to go until they let Iona beat them 16-7 down the stretch to beat the spread.

Syracuse – Providence. Spread is -13.0. Syracuse covers for a good portion of the game, including towards the end of the 2nd half, until Providence roars back and beats the spread.

Coincedence or just bad beats?



How could whoever come up with this just ignore Canisius game... the biggest example IMO of fixing.

Syracuse comes out terrible... only up 3 at the half... (which is a very easy way to fix a game from what I've heard)

They were up 24 with 5 minutes left though...

The spread opened at -21.5 and closed at -20 at most books.

Well, Syracuse was up by 18 with 30 secs left and Canisuis ball..... A turnover by Canisius and Cuse would have a chance to cover.

What does Mr. Waiters do?  He fouls Canisius with 23 seconds left..... They hit both FTs and Cuse basically has no chance to cover up just 16 with 20 secs left.

Remember this is after they blew 6 points off the 24 point lead....

Very suspicious..... And this would be the perfect, under the radar game to fix.
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Here is something I found, take it for what it's worth..

Syracuse – Seton Hall, First Game – Spread is -7.5, Seton Hall beats the spread. Syracuse fails to cover the spread with 6 minutes left to play, don’t score for 3 minutes, letting Seton Hall come back into the game and beat it.

Syracuse – Marquette. Spread is -2.5 for Marquette. Syracuse is tied late in the game by Kris Joseph. CJ Fair brings it to within 4 points. For the remainder of the game (about a 50 seconds only Scoop takes shots, all of them ill advised or rushed, which basically insures that Marquette covers.

Syracuse – Detroit. Spread is -17.0. Syracuse leads by 14 points with 4 minutes to go. Get outscored 9-6 down the stretch to insure the cover. Scoop fouls, turns the ball over, and misses a free throw in that time that help lead to Detroit beating the spread.

Syracuse – Michigan. Spread is -6.5. Syracuse doesn’t cover at the end after almost beating the spread. Kris and Scoop both have opportunities to make the lead 6 points at the line, both make one and one to keep the lead at a slim 5. Baye can beat the spread at the end by making both, misses both with game and Michigan beats the spread.

Syracuse – NC State. Spread is -12.0. NC State beats it after Syracuse squanders a first half lead.

Syracuse – Iona. Spread is -14.5. Syracuse is covering with 5 minutes to go until they let Iona beat them 16-7 down the stretch to beat the spread.

Syracuse – Providence. Spread is -13.0. Syracuse covers for a good portion of the game, including towards the end of the 2nd half, until Providence roars back and beats the spread.

Coincedence or just bad beats?



How could whoever come up with this just ignore Canisius game... the biggest example IMO of fixing.

Syracuse comes out terrible... only up 3 at the half... (which is a very easy way to fix a game from what I've heard)

They were up 24 with 5 minutes left though...

The spread opened at -21.5 and closed at -20 at most books.

Well, Syracuse was up by 18 with 30 secs left and Canisuis ball..... A turnover by Canisius and Cuse would have a chance to cover.

What does Mr. Waiters do?  He fouls Canisius with 23 seconds left..... They hit both FTs and Cuse basically has no chance to cover up just 16 with 20 secs left.

Remember this is after they blew 6 points off the 24 point lead....

Very suspicious..... And this would be the perfect, under the radar game to fix.
 
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Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO


This is probably the most ignorant statement I've ever seen, but coming from a Providence homer it's to be expected. Scoop Jardine has taken ill advised shots and been turnover plagued since he came to SU.Waiters has an atitude, his shooting percentage is worst on the team, he constantly turns the ball over, doesn't play good defense and told his coach to fuck off. That's why he didn't play against Marquette. Did your LEGIT SOURCES tell you that part of his benching was asked for by the upper classmen on the team?.........of course you haven't considered that the Cuse has the worst free throw percentage in the BE,which tends to shorten late game leads...........of course you haven't considered when they have a big lead and go to the bench, they bring in 3 freshmen and a sophmore that did not play last year.........

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Coming from a Syracuse fan...

If you have heard some of the behind scenes things you wouldn't be surprised at all... I have been told by LEGIT SOURCES of fixing going on in CBB this season... Syracuse wasn't one of them but I wouldn't be surprised.

Look at the Canisius game is all I really have to say though....

Dion Waiters didn;t play last game? After these allegations come out... hmmm.... look at what happened in the last 30 seconds of that game, when Syracuse was getting close to covering.....  Kind of speaks for itself IMO


This is probably the most ignorant statement I've ever seen, but coming from a Providence homer it's to be expected. Scoop Jardine has taken ill advised shots and been turnover plagued since he came to SU.Waiters has an atitude, his shooting percentage is worst on the team, he constantly turns the ball over, doesn't play good defense and told his coach to fuck off. That's why he didn't play against Marquette. Did your LEGIT SOURCES tell you that part of his benching was asked for by the upper classmen on the team?.........of course you haven't considered that the Cuse has the worst free throw percentage in the BE,which tends to shorten late game leads...........of course you haven't considered when they have a big lead and go to the bench, they bring in 3 freshmen and a sophmore that did not play last year.........

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