Just spent about 2-1/2 hours watching this true story on CNN. This woman was hauling four kids ranging from 2-8 years of age in a minivan. She was going about 70 down the highway the wrong way. In the end, eight people died. One child survived the crash. Everyone else (there were three vehicles involved) perished. Tragic story.
Diane's BAC was .19 and the autopsy also revealed Cannabis in her system. A bottle of vodka was found in the vehicle. The husband and most everyone that knew her refuse to believe the autopsy. They feel she never would have done that and put the children in danger like that.
This happened about four years ago in NY. I couldn't stop watching... riveting story but so tragic. I wish I hadn't watched it.
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Just spent about 2-1/2 hours watching this true story on CNN. This woman was hauling four kids ranging from 2-8 years of age in a minivan. She was going about 70 down the highway the wrong way. In the end, eight people died. One child survived the crash. Everyone else (there were three vehicles involved) perished. Tragic story.
Diane's BAC was .19 and the autopsy also revealed Cannabis in her system. A bottle of vodka was found in the vehicle. The husband and most everyone that knew her refuse to believe the autopsy. They feel she never would have done that and put the children in danger like that.
This happened about four years ago in NY. I couldn't stop watching... riveting story but so tragic. I wish I hadn't watched it.
No... it's not. The moral of the story is don't get fücked up and drive whether it's legal drugs or illegal drugs. I'm sure the Cannabis didn't make her jump on a freeway and start heading south in northbound traffic. The 10 shots of vodka probably had more to do with that. Numerous studies have proven that alcohol is much more impairing than Cannabis. That said, they both impair you.
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No... it's not. The moral of the story is don't get fücked up and drive whether it's legal drugs or illegal drugs. I'm sure the Cannabis didn't make her jump on a freeway and start heading south in northbound traffic. The 10 shots of vodka probably had more to do with that. Numerous studies have proven that alcohol is much more impairing than Cannabis. That said, they both impair you.
No... it's not. The moral of the story is don't get fücked up and drive whether it's legal drugs or illegal drugs. I'm sure the Cannabis didn't make her jump on a freeway and start heading south in northbound traffic. The 10 shots of vodka probably had more to do with that. Numerous studies have proven that alcohol is much more impairing than Cannabis. That said, they both impair you.
I completely agree I was just friggin with you. Once I saw the BAC that high I figured it would get a rise out of you with something you're so passionate about. I honestly don't think the weed had anything to do with this unless she was going to Taco Bell or KFC or something.
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Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:
No... it's not. The moral of the story is don't get fücked up and drive whether it's legal drugs or illegal drugs. I'm sure the Cannabis didn't make her jump on a freeway and start heading south in northbound traffic. The 10 shots of vodka probably had more to do with that. Numerous studies have proven that alcohol is much more impairing than Cannabis. That said, they both impair you.
I completely agree I was just friggin with you. Once I saw the BAC that high I figured it would get a rise out of you with something you're so passionate about. I honestly don't think the weed had anything to do with this unless she was going to Taco Bell or KFC or something.
The real fukked up thing about this story is that the husband of Aunt Diane sued the state and the father(his brother in law) of the 3 little girls that were killed. he claimed that vehicle that was borrowed from his wife's brother was faulty and that the highway was poorly designed.
What kind of attorney would even waste their time on a case like that? Wouldn't the toxicology reports basically tell the story?
Haha wow really?
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Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:
The real fukked up thing about this story is that the husband of Aunt Diane sued the state and the father(his brother in law) of the 3 little girls that were killed. he claimed that vehicle that was borrowed from his wife's brother was faulty and that the highway was poorly designed.
What kind of attorney would even waste their time on a case like that? Wouldn't the toxicology reports basically tell the story?
Randy... I'm just saying IF the toxicology reports were accurate, it means she was really impaired, and alcohol does have more impairment impact than Cannabis. And again, it's just not smart to do either and drive. Medical Cannabis has nothing to do with it.
There have been many studies that support that the impairment level that Cannabis has on drivers is negligible. That it really doesn't even play a factor. Cell phones and careless driving actually cause many more accidents than Cannabis. However, and I will repeat... it's just not safe or smart to consume ANY intoxicant and drive IMO.
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Randy... I'm just saying IF the toxicology reports were accurate, it means she was really impaired, and alcohol does have more impairment impact than Cannabis. And again, it's just not smart to do either and drive. Medical Cannabis has nothing to do with it.
There have been many studies that support that the impairment level that Cannabis has on drivers is negligible. That it really doesn't even play a factor. Cell phones and careless driving actually cause many more accidents than Cannabis. However, and I will repeat... it's just not safe or smart to consume ANY intoxicant and drive IMO.
The husband probably really does believe that his wife would never do this. If mine did, I would investigate it to the fullest extent. And frankly I would never believe she drank approximately 10 shots of vodka, smoked weed, and then drove a minivan hauling four kids in it. I feel for the guy, but maybe it's time to just accept it. How would a person rebound after an event like this? Good Lord.
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The husband probably really does believe that his wife would never do this. If mine did, I would investigate it to the fullest extent. And frankly I would never believe she drank approximately 10 shots of vodka, smoked weed, and then drove a minivan hauling four kids in it. I feel for the guy, but maybe it's time to just accept it. How would a person rebound after an event like this? Good Lord.
I wonder if they were strapped for cash and she couldn't afford a trip to the dentist. She reportedly made about 100K, but I don't know what he makes, and they were raising how many kids... four or five, not sure.
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Thank you on the correction schwartz (handshake).
I wonder if they were strapped for cash and she couldn't afford a trip to the dentist. She reportedly made about 100K, but I don't know what he makes, and they were raising how many kids... four or five, not sure.
So Steele how is everything going in Colorado and Washington lately? I really haven't had time to read up on it and figured you already have done some on it.
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So Steele how is everything going in Colorado and Washington lately? I really haven't had time to read up on it and figured you already have done some on it.
Colorado is going through some growing pains (that's how some have described it). They're trying to figure out how to work the whole thing. Washington hired some guy from CA to be their advisor. It probably won't be sold in stores for another 6-8 months in either state. Maine I think is on the brink of legalization but they're talking about taxing it at $50/oz. This is ridiculous IMO considering that farmers will be able to grow good bud at a cost of about $20/lb. That's about $1.25/oz. Even after you throw in packaging costs, distribution costs, and profit margin you're looking at maybe a sell price of anywhere from $6-$12 per oz. So... $50/oz tax needless to say is completely out of hand. They'll be able to produce commercial grade stuff at about $10 per pound. With farming technologies, the stuff can be harvested as easily as corn or wheat. I hope they (the people determining the taxes in these states) don't screw this up to badly. Please someone tell me why they simply wouldn't apply a standard state and federal tax on all sales.
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Hi Bill
Colorado is going through some growing pains (that's how some have described it). They're trying to figure out how to work the whole thing. Washington hired some guy from CA to be their advisor. It probably won't be sold in stores for another 6-8 months in either state. Maine I think is on the brink of legalization but they're talking about taxing it at $50/oz. This is ridiculous IMO considering that farmers will be able to grow good bud at a cost of about $20/lb. That's about $1.25/oz. Even after you throw in packaging costs, distribution costs, and profit margin you're looking at maybe a sell price of anywhere from $6-$12 per oz. So... $50/oz tax needless to say is completely out of hand. They'll be able to produce commercial grade stuff at about $10 per pound. With farming technologies, the stuff can be harvested as easily as corn or wheat. I hope they (the people determining the taxes in these states) don't screw this up to badly. Please someone tell me why they simply wouldn't apply a standard state and federal tax on all sales.
Randy... you asked me to specify the difference between smoking marijuana and getting "fücked up". I'm not sure I answered that yet.
I'm not sure how much experience you've had with marijuana, but it's really a completely different effect on the mind and body than alcohol provides. When you're high you can typically perform all of the things you can do when you're not high. Whether it's changing a tire, baitin' a hook, riding a bicycle, etc. However, I've drank to the point where I couldn't do ANY of the above. It just doesn't work. I'm 44 and I've partied too much IMO. However I have slowed down thank God. My point is, I've drank tons of alcohol and have smoked maybe an average of 10 times a year over the past 25 years. So I can say that based on personal experience, I typically don't get "fücked up" while smoking. I can still function in society like I do on any other day. But if I drink for a couple hours and throw a few shots in the mix, forget it. I wouldn't think of hopping on a bicycle and riding around in a park. That's the difference.
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Randy... you asked me to specify the difference between smoking marijuana and getting "fücked up". I'm not sure I answered that yet.
I'm not sure how much experience you've had with marijuana, but it's really a completely different effect on the mind and body than alcohol provides. When you're high you can typically perform all of the things you can do when you're not high. Whether it's changing a tire, baitin' a hook, riding a bicycle, etc. However, I've drank to the point where I couldn't do ANY of the above. It just doesn't work. I'm 44 and I've partied too much IMO. However I have slowed down thank God. My point is, I've drank tons of alcohol and have smoked maybe an average of 10 times a year over the past 25 years. So I can say that based on personal experience, I typically don't get "fücked up" while smoking. I can still function in society like I do on any other day. But if I drink for a couple hours and throw a few shots in the mix, forget it. I wouldn't think of hopping on a bicycle and riding around in a park. That's the difference.
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