Isn't it remarkable that the first recognized 'riots' since the Trayvon murder came in Kentucky?

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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:08:18 PM
Fair and Balanced.

That's what you get when you open a thread like this.

And are these riots really that remarkable? That depends on your point of view. To me they are not of course. To others here, it is 'shocking' when it is presented like it is below.

While the nation was on pins and needles for now nearly over five weeks, intensely worried that there might be a 'mob uprising' in the Black community in Sanford and elsewhere, the first nationally reported riots came after, wait for it, the NCAA championship basketball game.

These fears were disseminated and stoked daily on conservative news outlets and websites, and were meant to degrade the Black community as one that couldn't control itself, and one that just wouldn't let justice 'run its course.' 

Of course, that spin is complete hogwash. Without the peaceable protest from Blacks and Whites and others in the Sanford community and elsewhere, and the disgust from virtually all races and ethnicities because of the initial outcome of the case (no arrest), which included anger and outrage as a smoking gun was blown out over a dead black teen's body, (the Sanford police fully compliant in letting Zimmerman walk based on his word in the face of massive amounts of evidence both collected and uncollected), this case would have simply faded away like the windblown seeds of an early spring dandelion.

Earlier last month, I had a thread addressing these 'race riots' which I identified in the OP as protest (with the unfortunate result of posters even failing to read that, that is, the OP...yes the OP wasn't even read before replying). 

So on April 2, 2012, did we see a single riot of national news interest from the Trayvon murder, that is, one where the police need to be out in force in riot gear? No. Did we see one before that date up to the date of the murder? No.

That is important. Why?

Because the riots we did see occurred in Kentucky. Play the video for yourself. We see massive amounts of White Americans jumping on overturned car and then at :42 seconds you can clearly see white males assisting each other to set the car on fire. Notice the black male interspersed in the ruckus. Of course Blacks, Asians, Hispanics and other non-whites celebrated on this day but we know for certain the majority of rioters were White. These White Americans, normal everyday college students, don't appear too orderly and studiously gearing up for a shrinking job market now do they? 

How do we know they are mostly White? The entire student body of Kentucky University is a staggering 87.2% White. Even with the most conservative of estimates, the rioters could be classified as overwhelmingly white.

But just like the protestors themselves, and any feared 'race riot' in Sandford, such an occurrence wouldn't be exclusively Black. No matter, we'll stick with the majority and we know what the majority is here.

It wasn't limited to one overturned car. Police were in riot gear. There were arrests, gunshots, EMT calls, massive crowd-wide public drunkenness and 39+ random fires in the streets (which carries a hefty prison penalty if fully prosecuted). The adversary will say, "Hey what's a riot without an overturned car!! " I say, a riot is a riot, just as many feared it in Sanford. You hear this all the time from hockey fans on here and elsewhere who dismiss it all with a handwave and 'Fans will be fans!" (Many of those riots have resulted in more than one death by the way.)

Why is pointing this out necessary?

Because of the indoctrination of the white TV/internet viewer/user. Fox News, and other outlets, cannot wait for that first car window to break to dispatch a reporter and make it national news headline of "The 'Race Riot' is Now in Full Force!" Many whites will go into "ShakeMyHead" mode and say "There they go! Ya knew it was coming!"

All the while they completely ignore the riots in Kentucky which will be costly, due to damages, closed businesses, police overtime, arrests, and riot squads on the scene. 

That is because in the typical Caucasian mindset, this is completely normal and is ignored or accepted due to group-identification, when, more importantly, it can be just as destructive. A car being overturned and set on fire is never quantified financially by one with prejudice against Blacks (with a potential value of $20k to $40k depending on it's use and year) when it is overturned and set on fire by White rioters. But when a White person sees a single Black individual with a Nike shoebox ($50/$100/$200) or a flat-screen TV($500/$1000/$2000) , the 'Black looter' is forever imprinted in their minds, till death does that memory depart. 

In conclusion, this post is for balance, and the same grotesque covers characters will always make their appearance with some reference to me as scum, and a woefully misguided retort concerning crime rates in the Black community. 

Unfortunately, they would be used to wipe the floor with as those are irrelevant to this debate. This is a recognition of a White-based riot for something as frivolous as a sporting event occurring before any kind of Black 'race riot' after the Trayvon murder (an occurrence which has major implications of what it means to be Black in America and to live with prejudice), which is still a legitimate fear in the White community in Sanford and elsewhere, which is why you have hordes of people on this site trying to mute any talk of Zimmerman being guilty and/or just 'letting the police do their job.'

Three familiar words for the GD forum to close out:

Fair and Balanced....


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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:18:26 PM
wooohoooo race riots... wish i had a car.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:23:34 PM
Um, I think America doesn't show much to it because its happened 10000x...heck it happened on lowly URI's campus the night the Red Sox beat the Yanks in Game 1 of one ALCS way back when.

its boring to talk about, that's why we don't hear much about it.

Not a shocker anymore, and quite frankly not that relevant. Should it happen? Of course not, but we are immune to it...heck...look at all the school shootings, how much coverage did Columbine get compared to what ones gets now, for the most part, not a 1/10th of the attention.

Don't make it out to be more than its worth man. cause this isnt.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:30:13 PM
They were angry about the anthem. I took the over in that game was looking good for about 10 mins. Kansas seemed to be shooting at a mysterious third basket.

I shouldn't even try to bet on basketball, just stick to hockey. Oh well lesson learned.


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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:45:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

Um, I think America doesn't show much to it because its happened 10000x...heck it happened on lowly URI's campus the night the Red Sox beat the Yanks in Game 1 of one ALCS way back when.

its boring to talk about, that's why we don't hear much about it.

Not a shocker anymore, and quite frankly not that relevant. Should it happen? Of course not, but we are immune to it...heck...look at all the school shootings, how much coverage did Columbine get compared to what ones gets now, for the most part, not a 1/10th of the attention.

Don't make it out to be more than its worth man. cause this isnt.

It matters when it's compared to communities of color and their 'potential' for riots or even 'rumored' riots in the face of 'actual' White-based riots. This is not a discussion of the frequency of riots after sporting event victories. It goes well beyond that as the OP details.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:47:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

They were angry about the anthem. I took the over in that game was looking good for about 10 mins. Kansas seemed to be shooting at a mysterious third basket.

I shouldn't even try to bet on basketball, just stick to hockey. Oh well lesson learned.



The anthem was fine IMO. If people are offended, networks/teams should react if they see fit and have a 'code of conduct' for the anthem where it can only be sung in only one manner.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:56:39 PM
I could never understand why these college kids(and other sports fans) find the need to destroy property over a Victory or Loss. This is a far too common problem that needs to be met with viscous force in order to continue to happen. Then again the Kid's in State College went crazy and destroyed the community over the release of Joe Paterno.

It just goes to show you where the focus is at in the mind of the Average American Male full of testosterone.

Alcohol also plays a HUGE role in these types of Fiascos. Almost anytime you see these types of outbreaks it is almost always White Drunken Fools. Just look at the Riots in the U.K. during St. Patrick's Day.




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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:59:32 PM
Well, we agree on something outside of the 'vicious force' part....
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:09:28 PM
The reason why I say "Vicious Force" is because if people don't have anything to fear from acting like a fool and a criminal, then it will just continue to happen over and over and over again because they know that the consequences of their actions will result in a minor penalty.


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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:11:43 PM
IF the result of anyone caught rioting was an automatic penalty of 15 years in Prison, these acts of vandalism and public destruction would never happen.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:01:33 PM
Im all for equal rights and all that, but you have to admit, that being you post about the same things time in and time out (and ive never commented on them) it does make you look like the person you are portrayed as...and you know what you are portrayed as...

I feel like Im watching the Fox News for the African Americans when I read your stuff sometimes...
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:07:56 PM
fair and balanced wooohooo fox news!
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At least Fox News shows an updated photo of that thug douchebag and not that f'n one when he was 6 in his goddamn Hollister t shirt
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Posted: 4/3/2012 9:54:22 PM

why is scal even allowed to post here

 

i wish id meet his racist behind one day, wouldnt take me 20 seconds

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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:00:43 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by crod1980:

IF the result of anyone caught rioting was an automatic penalty of 15 years in Prison, these acts of vandalism and public destruction would never happen.

waste of time and money

good old fashioned caning Singapore style  

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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:11:40 PM
Scalabrine you are a friggin mess. 

Get a grip. 

Why do you do this to yourself?
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:29:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:

Scalabrine you are a friggin mess. 

Get a grip. 

Why do you do this to yourself?

Do what to myself

If you mean 'this' as in 'subjecting myself to the derision of the posters here because their entrenched bigotry doesn't allow them to think otherwise' you couldn't have chose a more meaningless 'this' in the universe. 

I voice my opinion. Period. If you don't like it, so be it. And calling me a mess is pretty stunning from a guy who makes an assessment about a poster that provides fairly lengthy posts full of citations, news articles, historical fact, and researched material interspersed with opinion, in 16 impulse-driven words.


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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:50:39 PM
scalabrine I was thinking a little more about these "Riots" and I would think that the main difference is that "Race Riots" are premeditated while these "Sports Riots" are spontaneous.

Also, "Race Riots" are meant to cause bodily harm to other human beings along with Looting and Destruction. Not necessarily the case with these Alcohol induced Riots as they are mainly for destruction. Both are wrong, but I don't think that you could compare them equally as no one is getting their heads bashed in with Bricks during these "Sporting Event Riots"

White Man's Riot: 10 White guys Flip over a car and set it on Fire.

Back Man's Riot: 10 Black guys break into a store stealing the contents and then set the store on Fire.


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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:32:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:

Scalabrine you are a friggin mess. 

Get a grip. 

Why do you do this to yourself?

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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:33:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HoldEm00:

why is scal even allowed to post here

 

i wish id meet his racist behind one day, wouldnt take me 20 seconds

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Posted: 4/4/2012 12:35:36 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


The anthem was fine IMO. If people are offended, networks/teams should react if they see fit and have a 'code of conduct' for the anthem where it can only be sung in only one manner.


The anthem was awful.  The idea was fine, but man the execution was godawful.  That guitar was out of tune.
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Posted: 4/4/2012 12:57:51 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by crod1980:

scalabrine I was thinking a little more about these "Riots" and I would think that the main difference is that "Race Riots" are premeditated while these "Sports Riots" are spontaneous.

Also, "Race Riots" are meant to cause bodily harm to other human beings along with Looting and Destruction. Not necessarily the case with these Alcohol induced Riots as they are mainly for destruction. Both are wrong, but I don't think that you could compare them equally as no one is getting their heads bashed in with Bricks during these "Sporting Event Riots"

White Man's Riot: 10 White guys Flip over a car and set it on Fire.

Back Man's Riot: 10 Black guys break into a store stealing the contents and then set the store on Fire.


Where are your stats on what a riot would be like for any race?

Now fires are set only by blacks in the face of whites doing it right on the video you see??????

Here is a single Hockey riot which ended with TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE being injured and $1.1 million dollars in property damage. That's a pretty friggin serious riot in terms of injury and damage don't ya think? Doubt many Blacks were eager to participate in that one for yet another Hockey Championship (if they even could in a city like Vancouver).

But for this guy, the Reginald Denny helicopter taping represents ALL BLACK RIOTS.

You are unfuckingbelievable. Proving you wrong is easier than peeling a banana. You expose yourself a million times over.
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Posted: 4/4/2012 12:59:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:



The anthem was awful.  The idea was fine, but man the execution was godawful.  That guitar was out of tune.

Couldn't tell about the guitar. Thought the singing was fine. 

It was much better than a singer getting up there and saying Braaaaaaaaaaaave for 20 seconds to end it. 
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Posted: 4/4/2012 1:15:14 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Where are your stats on what a riot would be like for any race?

Now fires are set only by blacks in the face of whites doing it right on the video you see??????

Here is a single Hockey riot which ended with TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE being injured and $1.1 million dollars in property damage. That's a pretty friggin serious riot in terms of injury and damage don't ya think? Doubt many Blacks were eager to participate in that one for yet another Hockey Championship (if they even could in a city like Vancouver).

But for this guy, the Reginald Denny helicopter taping represents ALL BLACK RIOTS.

You are unfuckingbelievable. Proving you wrong is easier than peeling a banana. You expose yourself a million times over.


First off, I said Whites set the fires too dumbass. Learn how to read.

Yeah, that Riot in Canada was REAL close to the 50+ people Killed, Thousands injured and Over 1 BILLION Dollars in Property Damage during the Rodney King/L.A. Riots.

What do I need stats for based on how every Black Riot goes down?  They all go down the same way.

Race Riots(Let's just call them Black Riots since that is what they are) are premeditated and most of those involved have a plan to kill, loot, and/or cause Havoc and destruction before the actual reason for killing, looting, or causing Havoc is even revealed.
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