just cant win at gambling

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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:21:57 AM
usually start with a 200 dollar deposit  in 5dimes, try to build it but bet big chasing on non popular sporting events trying to get it back fast...plz post your bankroll management strategies and how do i continuously build a profit...also i bet too many games and bet props on player point totals in basketball too much
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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:34:18 AM

baseball is the only time to have a legi shot.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:49:27 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

baseball is the only time to have a legi shot.

I disagree brother football is where its at.  Baseball used to kill me back in the day.  Now I like it but my order goes NFL,NCAAF,NCAAB,MLB, then NBA from best to worst.  And its not like I don't know pro basketball its just so all over the place.  The hustle factor in college sports makes the games easier to cap I think as well. 

As for money management chasing/betting stuff you're not familiar with are killers, you gotta know when to cut your losses, call it a night, and live to play another day.  Parlays are also bankroll killers, not so much short term, but long term.  They are the biggest reason alot of my noob friends, who hear about me winning, and get into it bust early.  I don't even show them parlays at first now, cuz in the past they got so obsessed with the ridic multi teamers, even when I try to explain to them, there is a reason the odds are so high lol.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:51:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

baseball is the only time to have a legi shot.



It can for some, but for others that don't have proper bankroll management it could kill them due to the amount of games taking place
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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:06:11 AM

Try to keep your bets to 20% of BR top.  Idea is to keep gambling at a boring unaffected level without the highs an lows.

30% if a wager looks real attractive. Adrenaline is our worst enemy. - that and a few other things.

Steady patience. Should take 30 days to turn 30-50'% if you're ontop of scouting.

I am a complete failure at this discipline when the bankroll swells.Avoid that mngmnt.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:08:48 AM
....Patience is the last word to remember.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:10:19 AM
But anyway, I used to be like you. Depositing around 300-400 and watching it evaporate pretty quickly. I learned from my mistakes though, and I havent had a losing year the last three years. I just avoided dumping my whole roll on the big time favorites "that can't lose", also I stayed away from ingame gambling more so, but I still pick my spots there. I flat bet, meaning I bet the same amount for every game. I don't raise my units for a special play, maybe once and a while if I really like a play, but not by much.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:23:35 AM
if you would like i can help you win for a small percentage of the wins.But ill start you with a tip only bet sports that play low amounts of games such as football because they will be playing hard for every game because evry game could mean the difference non like baseball or hockey becausse you can lose 30 40 games and still be fine
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Posted: 3/5/2012 3:24:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bigbill365:

if you would like i can help you win for a small percentage of the wins.But ill start you with a tip only bet sports that play low amounts of games such as football because they will be playing hard for every game because evry game could mean the difference non like baseball or hockey becausse you can lose 30 40 games and still be fine


You sir are a
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Posted: 3/5/2012 5:07:52 AM

This thread is littered with bullshit information. To the op, 2-5% max bet per play to your overall bankroll should help you maintain and profit assuming you can pick winners at or around 52%. Betting 20% of your bankroll per play would mean that if you lose 5 in a row (which is very possible), you will be wiped out. Patience, searching for the best lines based on your play, sound money management, and strict persistent discipline will help get you towards your goals as a sports bettor.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 6:15:21 AM
cap the games,,pick the WINNER,,the ATS factor willt take care of itself over time--just pick WINNERS and you will be ok
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Posted: 3/5/2012 6:25:23 AM
what he said
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Posted: 3/5/2012 7:24:44 AM
this has been the worst 2 months of my life.  i think I am cursed. Really.   I've been gambling for almost 20 years.  Never had a run like this. 
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Posted: 3/5/2012 10:54:11 AM
20% of Bank is way too high.Normally 2% of bank would be tops but not sure what the minimum is at 5Dimes. Don't bet "Too many games", Rarely going to  sweep the board. More games = more juice/vig. I try to stay away from heavy ML favs, in HKY  turn heavy favs into dogs by placing PL wager -0.5 goals in Reg, that sort of thing. Did that with the PENGUINS today +100 to win in reg. (Probably going to get screwed on OT!) Pick a sport you know best and cap the garbage out of the matchup. Determine your own lines and probable outcome, then look for soft lines. Look for dogs, dont just play them because they are dogs, look for dogs with a good chance to win. Don't follow trends blindly, see people in the betting forums using head to head  trends over past 50 gms, in a sport where the teams only play 4 times a yr. Those trends are misleading and involve different personnel, coaches etc. Not a parlay guy, but if you are, pick your spots keep it to two teams. Some good value in playing futures. 

Best of luck  
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Posted: 3/5/2012 11:18:29 AM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by tb2:

usually start with a 200 dollar deposit  in 5dimes, try to build it but bet big chasing on non popular sporting events trying to get it back fast...plz post your bankroll management strategies and how do i continuously build a profit...also i bet too many games and bet props on player point totals in basketball too much

 

I do the same garbage, load about $200 or so and see what happens, which usually will last 2 months, stick to 2 or 3 plays a day, don't darn with props.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:34:45 PM
[Quote: Originally Posted by Consilience]

This thread is littered with bullshit information. To the op, 2-5% max bet per play to your overall bankroll should help you maintain and profit assuming you can pick winners at or around 52%. Betting 20% of your bankroll per play would mean that if you lose 5 in a row (which is very possible), you will be wiped out. Patience, searching for the best lines based on your play, sound money management, and strict persistent discipline will help get you towards your goals as a sports bettor.

Absolutely correct. You never simply bet $100 or $200  on a game. A bet size IS ALWAYS a fixed % of your bankroll or you're going to lose long term. I'd venture that 99% of sports bettors don't adhere to this simple rule.

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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:13:01 PM
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Posted: 3/5/2012 1:49:33 PM
hahah 2%  i hope u have like 10 grand deposited 25 of the average better on here would be 2 dollers hahah darn that if you have $200 in your account $25 $30 should be 1 unit
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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:14:57 PM
If you bet 20% of your bankroll you will never go broke but you may run up againest the minimum.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:17:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tb2:

usually start with a 200 dollar deposit  in 5dimes, try to build it but bet big chasing on non popular sporting events trying to get it back fast...plz post your bankroll management strategies and how do i continuously build a profit...also i bet too many games and bet props on player point totals in basketball too much


you might have more control if u play fantasy baseball. 200$ entry fee can win u 1600
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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:34:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Consilience:

This thread is littered with bullshit information. To the op, 2-5% max bet per play to your overall bankroll should help you maintain and profit assuming you can pick winners at or around 52%. Betting 20% of your bankroll per play would mean that if you lose 5 in a row (which is very possible), you will be wiped out. Patience, searching for the best lines based on your play, sound money management, and strict persistent discipline will help get you towards your goals as a sports bettor.



Maybe he meant have no more than 20% of the bankroll in play at any one time.  That would be 4 or 5 bets at 4% or 5% of bankroll for each bet, which is reasonable.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:51:46 PM
i only like sundays..  
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Posted: 3/5/2012 6:04:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tb2:

usually start with a 200 dollar deposit  in 5dimes, try to build it but bet big chasing on non popular sporting events trying to get it back fast...plz post your bankroll management strategies and how do i continuously build a profit...also i bet too many games and bet props on player point totals in basketball too much

STOP doing everything you mention above for starters.  And if you can't, either come to terms that will never win and live with it or just quit.  Bet too many games....bet a lot of props.....chasing (and of all things on non-popular events that you probably know nothing about).  All symptoms of an action junkie.  I'm sure you get mad after you lose a big, chase bet, but during the bet, I'm sure you're getting your fix just the same.  

If you look at the successful people here (or some of the ones I think are successful mainly based on reading their posts), it's not about action for them.  In fact, if you have read any of vanzack's threads, you would know that he lives a grind it out and somewhat monotonous life during his "work ours."  It's pinching pennies on lines to get an advantage.  It's buying and selling.  It's about crunching numbers.  It doesn't sound that sexy to me.  What is sexy for them (from what I gather) is winning (for some supplementing their income...for some making a living....not being tied to a desk....to being free to work when you want).

They might make a bet on an event if they are going out with the buddies......or on an obscure prop.  But that is strictly entertainment and they know that going in.  The rest of the time, it's about winning.

Every bet should be about value (and you should be able to explain to yourself why it has value).  This, "only make your two favorite bets each night" is complete B.S.  If you see 4 bets with value on a card, you're OBLIGATED to bet them all.

With a $300-$500 bankroll, you're not going to be able to take advantage of a large bankroll.  You have to define what being successful is?  $ amount?  Well, if you have a goal to make $5K in a year with that payroll, you're already dead before you even start unless one of your chase bets on a 50:1 parlay comes in....but that probably wouldn't help as you'd end up flushing that down the toilet eventually (the win would only reinforce trying it again for you I bet). 

Bottom line is, many of the things you need to do in order to have a chance to be successful fly in the face of your current behavior. DIRECTLY in the face.  Until you make a decision to change your behavior and demonstrate you CAN, come to terms with your losing or just give it up all together.  

In my opinion, many people on covers yearn for advice on how to be successful.  About .5 of 1% are actually willing to learn and do what it takes.  Just like most everyone wants the easy pick, they also tend to think there is a magic formula for winning and they want someone to show them how (as long as it wouldn't be too much work).  
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Posted: 3/5/2012 6:14:40 PM
here is the thing, if u see lebron wearing a dress or carrying a purse before the game, u bet the entire bankroll on the other team str8 up.
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