Ive debated about this for many years amongst friends and even on the board in here so now Im gonna take a vote.
The question is :
WOULD YOU CONSIDER ME A RACIST FOR STARTING A "WHITE" COLLEGE?
Please give me your answer, a reason, and what race you are.
Im doing this cuz Ive been sick and tired of the reverse racism in this country and after hearing "black leaders" try and make the Oregon?/Boise St thing a "race" thing and the seeing the announcers on TV proudly talk about a "black" college I think enough is enough.
I think starting a "white" college would be a good place to start so the world could see the outrage when something is geared towards whites. Yet when a club excludes whites its no big deal. Black Entertainment Televison???? PLZ , could you imagine if I started WET, white entertainment televison, Id be the biggest racist ever. And save your "thats what NBC is!!" NBC is called National Broadcast Company, not WET. Hate it when people try to make that argument cuz its just a lie.
Anyways, gonna take a vote to see if im in the majority with the way I feel, > > > >> or am I the racist bastard!!!!! LOL, just kidding but please,'I'D APPRECIATE INPUT!!!!!!!!
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Ive debated about this for many years amongst friends and even on the board in here so now Im gonna take a vote.
The question is :
WOULD YOU CONSIDER ME A RACIST FOR STARTING A "WHITE" COLLEGE?
Please give me your answer, a reason, and what race you are.
Im doing this cuz Ive been sick and tired of the reverse racism in this country and after hearing "black leaders" try and make the Oregon?/Boise St thing a "race" thing and the seeing the announcers on TV proudly talk about a "black" college I think enough is enough.
I think starting a "white" college would be a good place to start so the world could see the outrage when something is geared towards whites. Yet when a club excludes whites its no big deal. Black Entertainment Televison???? PLZ , could you imagine if I started WET, white entertainment televison, Id be the biggest racist ever. And save your "thats what NBC is!!" NBC is called National Broadcast Company, not WET. Hate it when people try to make that argument cuz its just a lie.
Anyways, gonna take a vote to see if im in the majority with the way I feel, > > > >> or am I the racist bastard!!!!! LOL, just kidding but please,'I'D APPRECIATE INPUT!!!!!!!!
we need some black people to weigh in on this. As a white person it's easy to see your point but i'm interested to see how its interpreted by a black person
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we need some black people to weigh in on this. As a white person it's easy to see your point but i'm interested to see how its interpreted by a black person
No, you can actually go to Grambling or Howard if your white so by law it would be the same if you started a white college. In fact one of the recent valedictorians of Howard was a white student.
Don't really see how it matters but anyway I'm Filipino.
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No, you can actually go to Grambling or Howard if your white so by law it would be the same if you started a white college. In fact one of the recent valedictorians of Howard was a white student.
Don't really see how it matters but anyway I'm Filipino.
The definition of racism isn't "you hate black people". It's making decisions based solely on race. If you want to have a school and make ethnicity a requirement then that is 100% racist. Just because there is no violence or hate in it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Next.
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The definition of racism isn't "you hate black people". It's making decisions based solely on race. If you want to have a school and make ethnicity a requirement then that is 100% racist. Just because there is no violence or hate in it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Next.
The definition of racism isn't "you hate black people". It's making decisions based solely on race. If you want to have a school and make ethnicity a requirement then that is 100% racist. Just because there is no violence or hate in it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Next.
Nor does it mean it's evil. (Or whatever other appellation from our fukked up old Puritan heritage one may wish to use.)
La Raza and Maldef are very ethno-centric. So is NAACP, Rev Sharpton's group, Rev Jesse Jackson's group and many others.
They're not termed "racist" by the media. That's a loaded word that no longer define - it is simply a propaganda weapon, to attempt to discredit. To prejudge without debate.
A private college for whites only could be as anti-hate as, say, Maldef is, as Sharpton claims he is. It's called "heritage, not hate." Based on folks with same background preferrring things of their own heritage.
I go occassionally to dances sponsored by a local Irish-American club. It's ethno-centric, not "racist." Tho just by its nature it is a white group. They won't refuse admittance to a non-white, agaisnt the law, or engage in any kind of race-baiting should one show up, but they won't be welcoming.
I see nothing wrong with that. Should the most dedicated liberal on the race issue get tossed into a state or federal prison he will likely join the Aryan Brotherhood. Unless he prefers to become the "girlfriend" of a black or Hispanic. Or at least a terrorized patsy.
In 40 years whites in America will be a minority. Will our rights be protected then? Nothing wrong at all with "heritage not hate" ethno-centrism.
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:
The definition of racism isn't "you hate black people". It's making decisions based solely on race. If you want to have a school and make ethnicity a requirement then that is 100% racist. Just because there is no violence or hate in it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Next.
Nor does it mean it's evil. (Or whatever other appellation from our fukked up old Puritan heritage one may wish to use.)
La Raza and Maldef are very ethno-centric. So is NAACP, Rev Sharpton's group, Rev Jesse Jackson's group and many others.
They're not termed "racist" by the media. That's a loaded word that no longer define - it is simply a propaganda weapon, to attempt to discredit. To prejudge without debate.
A private college for whites only could be as anti-hate as, say, Maldef is, as Sharpton claims he is. It's called "heritage, not hate." Based on folks with same background preferrring things of their own heritage.
I go occassionally to dances sponsored by a local Irish-American club. It's ethno-centric, not "racist." Tho just by its nature it is a white group. They won't refuse admittance to a non-white, agaisnt the law, or engage in any kind of race-baiting should one show up, but they won't be welcoming.
I see nothing wrong with that. Should the most dedicated liberal on the race issue get tossed into a state or federal prison he will likely join the Aryan Brotherhood. Unless he prefers to become the "girlfriend" of a black or Hispanic. Or at least a terrorized patsy.
In 40 years whites in America will be a minority. Will our rights be protected then? Nothing wrong at all with "heritage not hate" ethno-centrism.
What Ziggy Dawg says is correct. You can be a whiest and go to one of the "historically black colleges." Only because in recent years they were forced to admit some token whites.
Many black students and grads at those colleges very much resent whites being on campus. It deters tht very beneficial "we" feeling, that solidarity, that all peoples, black, white, brown etc feel is so empowering.
Some great black football players came out of schools like Grambling etc. Jerry Rice played for a black college in Mississippi.
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What Ziggy Dawg says is correct. You can be a whiest and go to one of the "historically black colleges." Only because in recent years they were forced to admit some token whites.
Many black students and grads at those colleges very much resent whites being on campus. It deters tht very beneficial "we" feeling, that solidarity, that all peoples, black, white, brown etc feel is so empowering.
Some great black football players came out of schools like Grambling etc. Jerry Rice played for a black college in Mississippi.
In 40 years whites in America will be a minority. Will our rights be protected then? Nothing wrong at all with "heritage not hate" ethno-centrism.
Wow that's a long time coming, because here in California whites have been the minority for about a decade now.
The days of old where the image of a southern Californian would be of a tanned caucasian beach goer have been replaced by a hispanic person. Even the violent black gangs have played second fiddle to hispanic gangs down there. All that glitter isn't gold down there.
The times are changing as more and more Whites are fleeing and moving on to states like Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and Utah.
Perhaps explaining the strong presence of the KKK in some of those states, esp. in Idaho?
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Quote Originally Posted by luckbythetruck:
In 40 years whites in America will be a minority. Will our rights be protected then? Nothing wrong at all with "heritage not hate" ethno-centrism.
Wow that's a long time coming, because here in California whites have been the minority for about a decade now.
The days of old where the image of a southern Californian would be of a tanned caucasian beach goer have been replaced by a hispanic person. Even the violent black gangs have played second fiddle to hispanic gangs down there. All that glitter isn't gold down there.
The times are changing as more and more Whites are fleeing and moving on to states like Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and Utah.
Perhaps explaining the strong presence of the KKK in some of those states, esp. in Idaho?
Ya when I say "white college" I will allow black members just like grambling would allow a white but I just want to make sure its termed, "a white college"
I am obviously in no financial position to do this but I would honestly like to start a "caucasian college fund" just like the "United Negre College Fund"
I want to help underprivileged whites just like the other fund helps underprivileged blacks. Id love to do that and see the uproar!!!!
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Ya when I say "white college" I will allow black members just like grambling would allow a white but I just want to make sure its termed, "a white college"
I am obviously in no financial position to do this but I would honestly like to start a "caucasian college fund" just like the "United Negre College Fund"
I want to help underprivileged whites just like the other fund helps underprivileged blacks. Id love to do that and see the uproar!!!!
what do you mean "white college"? what are you going to offer that other colleges don't? What makes it "whitë"?
Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
I mean what is WHITE anyway?
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what do you mean "white college"? what are you going to offer that other colleges don't? What makes it "whitë"?
Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
Wow that's a long time coming, because here in California whites have been the minority for about a decade now.
The days of old where the image of a southern Californian would be of a tanned caucasian beach goer have been replaced by a hispanic person. Even the violent black gangs have played second fiddle to hispanic gangs down there. All that glitter isn't gold down there.
The times are changing as more and more Whites are fleeing and moving on to states like Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and Utah.
Perhaps explaining the strong presence of the KKK in some of those states, esp. in Idaho?
The white flight (that's what it's officially called) from Cal to the mountain states has been going on since the 1970s. Gues who one of the white flighters is? That LA police lt who supposedy referered disparagingly re blacks in the OJ Simpson murder case - he's in Idaho!
Calif is probably has a majority now of "mnorities" (is that how you would say it - minoririties are now a majority?) But I was talking the country as a whole. Still majority white, tho fast declining.
Ethno-centric organzations for whites will continue to grow -- much more sophisticated and less hate-inspired than the old Klan and other Hollywood type outfits.
In Orange County there's a "heritage not hate" group, young working people, called Freedom 14. I talked to them briefly on a leaflet distribution they's set up near the pier - very impressive guys and gals, and not kooks. (I used to live in Orange County, like much of SoCal its deteriorated, but stilll some great places to live, and you can't beat the weather, ditto San Diego to the south)
What you say about blacks being displaced by the invasion from South of the border is correct. I have heard that even Watts is becoming more and more hispanic. The big racial tensions aren't so much between whites and blacks anymore, not in Cali. But between hispanics and blacks
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Quote Originally Posted by kickinA:
Wow that's a long time coming, because here in California whites have been the minority for about a decade now.
The days of old where the image of a southern Californian would be of a tanned caucasian beach goer have been replaced by a hispanic person. Even the violent black gangs have played second fiddle to hispanic gangs down there. All that glitter isn't gold down there.
The times are changing as more and more Whites are fleeing and moving on to states like Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and Utah.
Perhaps explaining the strong presence of the KKK in some of those states, esp. in Idaho?
The white flight (that's what it's officially called) from Cal to the mountain states has been going on since the 1970s. Gues who one of the white flighters is? That LA police lt who supposedy referered disparagingly re blacks in the OJ Simpson murder case - he's in Idaho!
Calif is probably has a majority now of "mnorities" (is that how you would say it - minoririties are now a majority?) But I was talking the country as a whole. Still majority white, tho fast declining.
Ethno-centric organzations for whites will continue to grow -- much more sophisticated and less hate-inspired than the old Klan and other Hollywood type outfits.
In Orange County there's a "heritage not hate" group, young working people, called Freedom 14. I talked to them briefly on a leaflet distribution they's set up near the pier - very impressive guys and gals, and not kooks. (I used to live in Orange County, like much of SoCal its deteriorated, but stilll some great places to live, and you can't beat the weather, ditto San Diego to the south)
What you say about blacks being displaced by the invasion from South of the border is correct. I have heard that even Watts is becoming more and more hispanic. The big racial tensions aren't so much between whites and blacks anymore, not in Cali. But between hispanics and blacks
what do you mean "white college"? what are you going to offer that other colleges don't? What makes it "whitë"?
Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
I mean what is WHITE anyway?
The same lame jokes can be said about any race.
All races have good and bad.
If you want me to bring up hockey, hair weaves ,and Shaquana then reread my sentence.
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Quote Originally Posted by EddieK09:
what do you mean "white college"? what are you going to offer that other colleges don't? What makes it "whitë"?
Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
I mean what is WHITE anyway?
The same lame jokes can be said about any race.
All races have good and bad.
If you want me to bring up hockey, hair weaves ,and Shaquana then reread my sentence.
Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
That's kinda funny.
'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
Do the historically black college have pics of Robert Mugabe, dictator of Zimbabwe? Or OJ Simpson? Or of black scientists solving the secret of the DNA code? Or space travelling to the moon and Mars.
Each to their own successes, however they define them. Those inside black culture are proud of what they have.
And that's great. I don't buy into the media bias that we have to hate and disparage our own culture (if we're white - the media rule doesn't apply to non-whites who are encouraged to respect thier hertitage) in order to "prove" we are not "racists." (That old loaded word again!)
As Rodney King said: "Can't We all Just Get Along?"
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Pictures of Hitler throughout the campus? Or pictuers of dorky white boys trying and failing to dance or pick-up hot white women? or whiteboys trying to play basketball in the NBA? Or trying to play running back in the NFL? Whiteboys playing badminton?
That's kinda funny.
'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
Do the historically black college have pics of Robert Mugabe, dictator of Zimbabwe? Or OJ Simpson? Or of black scientists solving the secret of the DNA code? Or space travelling to the moon and Mars.
Each to their own successes, however they define them. Those inside black culture are proud of what they have.
And that's great. I don't buy into the media bias that we have to hate and disparage our own culture (if we're white - the media rule doesn't apply to non-whites who are encouraged to respect thier hertitage) in order to "prove" we are not "racists." (That old loaded word again!)
As Rodney King said: "Can't We all Just Get Along?"
The afro-americans go by African Americans, but you try to say you are a Confederate Caucasian and all hell breaks loose.
It's media bias.
But as time goes by and whites become either more self-conscious of their own "identity," or surrender totally and become what I think some call "wiggers" - that kind of bias in the media will wither.
Facts on the ground change things.
I btw have lived in "mixed communities" on both coasts. I have found it curious that the most "liberal" folks re the race issue have been the whites who live in the whitest communities. Nice to preach "tolerance" when you're snugged away in small-town New Hampshire or wide-open-spaces Montana!
I also have close friends in Mexico, and speak and read the language - not as good as I used to, livng in the East for the last 4 years. (Soon, hopefully, Cali will gain a total of 1 white person, with an outside chance at 4!)
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Quote Originally Posted by willsimpson:
The afro-americans go by African Americans, but you try to say you are a Confederate Caucasian and all hell breaks loose.
It's media bias.
But as time goes by and whites become either more self-conscious of their own "identity," or surrender totally and become what I think some call "wiggers" - that kind of bias in the media will wither.
Facts on the ground change things.
I btw have lived in "mixed communities" on both coasts. I have found it curious that the most "liberal" folks re the race issue have been the whites who live in the whitest communities. Nice to preach "tolerance" when you're snugged away in small-town New Hampshire or wide-open-spaces Montana!
I also have close friends in Mexico, and speak and read the language - not as good as I used to, livng in the East for the last 4 years. (Soon, hopefully, Cali will gain a total of 1 white person, with an outside chance at 4!)
'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
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Really reaching, aren't you....long gone, long dead except for .......Montana ( who cares)...let's face it....the white-race is going, going GONE in the not too distant future...but none of you will be alive to see it...so, relax and keep jacking it to online porn..
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'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
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Really reaching, aren't you....long gone, long dead except for .......Montana ( who cares)...let's face it....the white-race is going, going GONE in the not too distant future...but none of you will be alive to see it...so, relax and keep jacking it to online porn..
I want to help underprivileged whites just like the other fund helps underprivileged blacks. Id love to do that and see the uproar!!!!
I think that once (once upon a century!!) there was a wealthy person who once left a considerable fortune to establish just such a school, in Philadelphia.
I think it may have been called Girard College, but maybe not. But it was an actual school, and was open only to "poor white boys." So not only "racist" but "sexist!!" Jumpin' Jehosophat
I do recall that the courts struck down the terms of the will.
What they won't be able to do is to stop white flight, homeschooling and the like
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I want to help underprivileged whites just like the other fund helps underprivileged blacks. Id love to do that and see the uproar!!!!
I think that once (once upon a century!!) there was a wealthy person who once left a considerable fortune to establish just such a school, in Philadelphia.
I think it may have been called Girard College, but maybe not. But it was an actual school, and was open only to "poor white boys." So not only "racist" but "sexist!!" Jumpin' Jehosophat
I do recall that the courts struck down the terms of the will.
What they won't be able to do is to stop white flight, homeschooling and the like
'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
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Really reaching, aren't you....long gone, long dead except for .......Montana ( who cares)...let's face it....the white-race is going, going GONE in the not too distant future...but none of you will be alive to see it...so, relax and keep jacking it to online porn..
Yup, understand completely where you're coming from. Totally. About 15 years ago a Hispanic leader in Cali said that "whites were shitting their pants, as they see their dominance die out."
What you might want to keep in mind tho is that white weakness and the cowardly "flight" is the greatest weapon of the "minorities." In other words, we are prisoners of our own propaganda. Modern propaganda, twisted by the current rulers.
When the Declaration of Independence declared that "all men are created equal" it was clearly referring to white men.
That Document suggested that Native Americans were mere savages. Benjamin Franklin virtually called for their extermination (in his autobiography).
The Constitution defined a black as 3/5ths of a person.
As long as whites have the creative edge (like in weaponry) they have a chance at survival. But they will have to very soon chuck the bs propaganda. (By "soon" I mean within the next generation - and it is happening, slowly, by fits and starts)
And btw, Eddie, if you are black do you think the conquering Mexicans and other Hispos are going to share the goodies with you? They believe they own the Southwest, and by their birthrate are cancelling the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (which every Mexican schoolchild learns by heart).
They are taking all the unskilled jobs that used to virtually belong to blacks. I can't even tell you what many Mexicans think of los negros! Cripes, they even have contempt for full-blooded Indians, tho many of them have some Indian blood. "Lazy" is one of the nicer words I heard in their description of African-Americans.
Hey, interesing times ahead. Let's all enjoy them! Paz a todo!
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Quote Originally Posted by EddieK09:
'Course, they could have pics of Shakespeare, Copenicus, Rembrandt, Einstein, Tom Edison. G.Washington, Moliere, Dante, Cervantes, Dostoyefsky, Pascal, Henry Ford, Patrick Henry, Cyrus McCormick, Cy Young, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana et al et al
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Really reaching, aren't you....long gone, long dead except for .......Montana ( who cares)...let's face it....the white-race is going, going GONE in the not too distant future...but none of you will be alive to see it...so, relax and keep jacking it to online porn..
Yup, understand completely where you're coming from. Totally. About 15 years ago a Hispanic leader in Cali said that "whites were shitting their pants, as they see their dominance die out."
What you might want to keep in mind tho is that white weakness and the cowardly "flight" is the greatest weapon of the "minorities." In other words, we are prisoners of our own propaganda. Modern propaganda, twisted by the current rulers.
When the Declaration of Independence declared that "all men are created equal" it was clearly referring to white men.
That Document suggested that Native Americans were mere savages. Benjamin Franklin virtually called for their extermination (in his autobiography).
The Constitution defined a black as 3/5ths of a person.
As long as whites have the creative edge (like in weaponry) they have a chance at survival. But they will have to very soon chuck the bs propaganda. (By "soon" I mean within the next generation - and it is happening, slowly, by fits and starts)
And btw, Eddie, if you are black do you think the conquering Mexicans and other Hispos are going to share the goodies with you? They believe they own the Southwest, and by their birthrate are cancelling the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (which every Mexican schoolchild learns by heart).
They are taking all the unskilled jobs that used to virtually belong to blacks. I can't even tell you what many Mexicans think of los negros! Cripes, they even have contempt for full-blooded Indians, tho many of them have some Indian blood. "Lazy" is one of the nicer words I heard in their description of African-Americans.
Hey, interesing times ahead. Let's all enjoy them! Paz a todo!
This dumb ass question is asked at least 4 to 5 times a year on this site. Just asked in a different way each time. Why is there a black this? Why is there a black that? Why do we have Jet or Ebony, or a Miss Black America contest. Just to give you the most simplest answer is because of the racist (past and still present) history of this country. Blacks were excluded from those things and all of you asking this question know that. Now that things have evolved and relations in this country have gotten better, why stop having those black themed commodities? They still afford a lot of blacks to better themselves in becoming positive contributors to society. There are a lot of positive people and events in our communities but you wouldn't know about it cause its never reported nationally unless its something negative on the news. I know this won't please you or answer your questions, but this is my opinion and my opinion only.
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This dumb ass question is asked at least 4 to 5 times a year on this site. Just asked in a different way each time. Why is there a black this? Why is there a black that? Why do we have Jet or Ebony, or a Miss Black America contest. Just to give you the most simplest answer is because of the racist (past and still present) history of this country. Blacks were excluded from those things and all of you asking this question know that. Now that things have evolved and relations in this country have gotten better, why stop having those black themed commodities? They still afford a lot of blacks to better themselves in becoming positive contributors to society. There are a lot of positive people and events in our communities but you wouldn't know about it cause its never reported nationally unless its something negative on the news. I know this won't please you or answer your questions, but this is my opinion and my opinion only.
There are a lot of positive people and events in our communities but you wouldn't know about it cause its never reported nationally unless its something negative on the news.
HAHAHAHA blaming "the man!!!"
Problem is, you are "the man" now!!!!!
blaming "the man" in 2009
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Quote Originally Posted by chillery:
There are a lot of positive people and events in our communities but you wouldn't know about it cause its never reported nationally unless its something negative on the news.
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