i retract my betonline suggestion, i cant even log on!! fuckers!!!
BetOnline Poker’s poker client is offline yet again, and players are continuing to be cut off from their poker cash according to recent posts at various online poker forums. Players who have recently signed up for the site are reporting that they can’t even load the software let alone get access to their player admin. Additionally, more allegations of fraud and cash flow problems have also been reported.
**Update: BetOnline Poker’s client is back up and running as reported by Stephen, a company manager representing the company. The site has also fixed up prior funds transfer issues that players had been experiencing around the time this article being written.
The poker room is apparently not that broke because they recently purchased a very high-value domain in Sportsbetting.ag, a signal that the company is ready to become an even more serious player in the sports betting industry. However, while BetOnline has been ramping up their sports betting divisions, poker players have already been waiting for months to cash out and now they are being told it will be September at the very least before any cash MIGHT be handed out – and that’s definitely not guaranteed with the way things are going now.
A new report against the site refers to employee tampering and account hacking on at least 2 BetOnline accounts. A recent thread on Sports Betting Review stated that his bankroll at the site had been completely wiped out after he had $4,000 in it just days before. The player contacted customer service and had a more than frustrating chat with one of the reps there, including a moment where the BetOnline Poker employee admitted he had the player’s password and login number on file. The chat rep apparently needed to verify with him over an open internet chat browser to confirm what it is, something that is normally not . This is clearly the most surprising revelation of the conversation, especially after the company has been experiencing similarly controversial issues with their poker client for months now.
After this particular PR nightmare one would think BetOnline Poker would try to keep its nose clean; however, only more and more negative stories have been popping up about the company and its treatment of players. The above controversy happened only last week, with tons of other news already posted all over the internet for months now. From missing player balances to chip-dumping to Lock Poker accounts, the site is surely showing some tell-tale signs of a pending infrastructure collapse.
Many different gambling forums such as SBR.com and 2+2 have seen thousands of posts that focus on BetOnline and the loss of their cash. Serious theft allegations have been made against the site over the past year and it seems the bad press isn’t going to be ending anytime soon. If you’re curious about some of the more controversial posts regarding BetOnline I suggest reading up on the following links:
BetOnline Poker is ROGUE
BetOnline Poker Issues
BetOnline Employees Know Your Player Passwords
It is with absolute certainty that we here at 4Flush.com DO NOT recognize BetOnline Poker to be a legitimate website at this point. They are completely and 100% rogue and depositing money there would be a dangerous decision, especially considering it may be months before existing payouts may start getting shipped. We’ll keep you covered on this developing story as more information hits other sports betting and poker forums.
i retract my betonline suggestion, i cant even log on!! fuckers!!!
BetOnline Poker’s poker client is offline yet again, and players are continuing to be cut off from their poker cash according to recent posts at various online poker forums. Players who have recently signed up for the site are reporting that they can’t even load the software let alone get access to their player admin. Additionally, more allegations of fraud and cash flow problems have also been reported.
**Update: BetOnline Poker’s client is back up and running as reported by Stephen, a company manager representing the company. The site has also fixed up prior funds transfer issues that players had been experiencing around the time this article being written.
The poker room is apparently not that broke because they recently purchased a very high-value domain in Sportsbetting.ag, a signal that the company is ready to become an even more serious player in the sports betting industry. However, while BetOnline has been ramping up their sports betting divisions, poker players have already been waiting for months to cash out and now they are being told it will be September at the very least before any cash MIGHT be handed out – and that’s definitely not guaranteed with the way things are going now.
A new report against the site refers to employee tampering and account hacking on at least 2 BetOnline accounts. A recent thread on Sports Betting Review stated that his bankroll at the site had been completely wiped out after he had $4,000 in it just days before. The player contacted customer service and had a more than frustrating chat with one of the reps there, including a moment where the BetOnline Poker employee admitted he had the player’s password and login number on file. The chat rep apparently needed to verify with him over an open internet chat browser to confirm what it is, something that is normally not . This is clearly the most surprising revelation of the conversation, especially after the company has been experiencing similarly controversial issues with their poker client for months now.
After this particular PR nightmare one would think BetOnline Poker would try to keep its nose clean; however, only more and more negative stories have been popping up about the company and its treatment of players. The above controversy happened only last week, with tons of other news already posted all over the internet for months now. From missing player balances to chip-dumping to Lock Poker accounts, the site is surely showing some tell-tale signs of a pending infrastructure collapse.
Many different gambling forums such as SBR.com and 2+2 have seen thousands of posts that focus on BetOnline and the loss of their cash. Serious theft allegations have been made against the site over the past year and it seems the bad press isn’t going to be ending anytime soon. If you’re curious about some of the more controversial posts regarding BetOnline I suggest reading up on the following links:
BetOnline Poker is ROGUE
BetOnline Poker Issues
BetOnline Employees Know Your Player Passwords
It is with absolute certainty that we here at 4Flush.com DO NOT recognize BetOnline Poker to be a legitimate website at this point. They are completely and 100% rogue and depositing money there would be a dangerous decision, especially considering it may be months before existing payouts may start getting shipped. We’ll keep you covered on this developing story as more information hits other sports betting and poker forums.
After an exhaustive and extensive investigation we have of the players activity we have taken the decision to honor the players claim to his winnings.
As a new poker platform we believe it is essential to maintain the utmost security in our systems for the safety of our players and to conform to our regulatory obligations of our license. It’s not a fast process but ultimately it is the fairest.
We appreciate the patience of the poker community during this process and wish best of luck to you all.
Several players have posted in poker and sportsbook forums complaining about BetOnline. These players have had their accounts locked by BetOnline. BetOnline accuses them of participating in chip dumping. Chip dumping is when one player intentionally loses chips to another player. Chip dumping is usually the result of a fraudulent deposit. A player deposits with a stolen credit card and then loses it to their friend hoping to cash it out before the poker room finds out. That is not what happened at BetOnline.
BetOnline accuses one player that has $65,000 in his account of participating in chip dumping. That player’s account was lock and the money seized by BetOnline. There has been no accusation of fraud being involved with it. BetOnline has also refused to email the player hand histories proving their accusation. Poker rooms that believe chip dumping has occurred but no fraud has been detected typically warn players not to do it and let the players continue to play. BetOnline decided to just help themselves to over $100,000 in player funds on these chip dumping accusation without providing any evidence to the players.
Sportsbook Review Involvement
Sportsbook Review has gotten involved but they have yet to go anywhere with BetOnline. BetOnline is a sponsor that has a B+ rating even though this scandal has surfaced. Sportsbook Review’s grading system has come into question due to this and the fact that these issues have not been reported on their home page even though it is a hot topic on their forum. Sportsbook Review also gives rogue operator Betfair an A.
BetOnline Network Controversy
BetOnline’s poker offering was controversial from its launch. Earlier this year, BetOnline opened their poker room. The poker room accepted U.S. players. They told many poker news sites that they were on the Hero Poker Network. This turned out to be untrue. BetOnline is in fact on the troubled Action Poker Network. Action Poker has had payout issues that go back two years. Either Action Poker did not want it known that they had a skin with U.S. players, or BetOnline did not want people to know they had joined a network that was known to be in financial trouble.
Major Software Security Issue
The software is also not secure. I logged in to BetOnline and Action Poker at the same time. I then sat down at the same table and played myself heads up. There is no safeguard to prevent a player from occupying more than one seat at a table.
What is BetOnline’s Motive?
BetOnline is either incompetent or running out of cash. It is possible that their poker security is very poor or not trained in online poker security. It is also possible that this money was won from Action Poker players and that Action Poker cannot pay BetOnline the money they are owed and BetOnline had to do something to get out of paying or buy time.
Regardless of the reason, I feel it is time to warn players about BetOnline. If you win a lot of money in their poker room they may decide not to pay you and refuse to provide any proof to back up their accusation. There are far better choices for U.S. players than BetOnline.
After an exhaustive and extensive investigation we have of the players activity we have taken the decision to honor the players claim to his winnings.
As a new poker platform we believe it is essential to maintain the utmost security in our systems for the safety of our players and to conform to our regulatory obligations of our license. It’s not a fast process but ultimately it is the fairest.
We appreciate the patience of the poker community during this process and wish best of luck to you all.
Several players have posted in poker and sportsbook forums complaining about BetOnline. These players have had their accounts locked by BetOnline. BetOnline accuses them of participating in chip dumping. Chip dumping is when one player intentionally loses chips to another player. Chip dumping is usually the result of a fraudulent deposit. A player deposits with a stolen credit card and then loses it to their friend hoping to cash it out before the poker room finds out. That is not what happened at BetOnline.
BetOnline accuses one player that has $65,000 in his account of participating in chip dumping. That player’s account was lock and the money seized by BetOnline. There has been no accusation of fraud being involved with it. BetOnline has also refused to email the player hand histories proving their accusation. Poker rooms that believe chip dumping has occurred but no fraud has been detected typically warn players not to do it and let the players continue to play. BetOnline decided to just help themselves to over $100,000 in player funds on these chip dumping accusation without providing any evidence to the players.
Sportsbook Review Involvement
Sportsbook Review has gotten involved but they have yet to go anywhere with BetOnline. BetOnline is a sponsor that has a B+ rating even though this scandal has surfaced. Sportsbook Review’s grading system has come into question due to this and the fact that these issues have not been reported on their home page even though it is a hot topic on their forum. Sportsbook Review also gives rogue operator Betfair an A.
BetOnline Network Controversy
BetOnline’s poker offering was controversial from its launch. Earlier this year, BetOnline opened their poker room. The poker room accepted U.S. players. They told many poker news sites that they were on the Hero Poker Network. This turned out to be untrue. BetOnline is in fact on the troubled Action Poker Network. Action Poker has had payout issues that go back two years. Either Action Poker did not want it known that they had a skin with U.S. players, or BetOnline did not want people to know they had joined a network that was known to be in financial trouble.
Major Software Security Issue
The software is also not secure. I logged in to BetOnline and Action Poker at the same time. I then sat down at the same table and played myself heads up. There is no safeguard to prevent a player from occupying more than one seat at a table.
What is BetOnline’s Motive?
BetOnline is either incompetent or running out of cash. It is possible that their poker security is very poor or not trained in online poker security. It is also possible that this money was won from Action Poker players and that Action Poker cannot pay BetOnline the money they are owed and BetOnline had to do something to get out of paying or buy time.
Regardless of the reason, I feel it is time to warn players about BetOnline. If you win a lot of money in their poker room they may decide not to pay you and refuse to provide any proof to back up their accusation. There are far better choices for U.S. players than BetOnline.
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