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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:04:37 PM

there will never be a true national champion crowned in college football as long as the bcs is involved.  last nights game was so pathetic and agonizing to watch.  fortunately i tailed some good cappers (thanks for the alabama side rush) thru the bowl season and i just want to thank all of you for your hard work and efforts.

but back to the topic at hand....its hard to fathom how teams are selected to play in this so called "national championship" game.  there are a lot of teams out there that could have played in this game or at least have a strong case for being there last night but we will never know.   i.e. oklahoma state, oregon, stanford just to name a few would probably have been a better matchup since they IMO possess better offenses than lsu.  why not have the number one defense in the nation match up against the number one offense in the nation for all the marbles?  now there is something worth watching and would settle any debate as far as which unit wins championships...a solid number one defense?  or a number one high octane offense?  then again, maybe it won't get to that point of a number one offense vs a number one defense.  and this is the beauty of a playoff...to possibly find these matchups.

college football is the only collegiate sport that does not have a playoff system to crown its champion.  if those geniuses who came up with this bcs put their collective heads together, im pretty sure they could find a way to make some kind of playoff format to have a true national champion.  a lack of money/funding should not be used as an excuse to NOT have a playoff.  the lower divisions do perfectly fine financially with a playoff system.  maybe we can ask president obama for a little bit of cash to get this thing going (just kidding).

with the way lsu played last night, im pretty sure one of the aforementioned teams would/could probably beat lsu to reach the national championship game and play whoever was the champion on the other side of the bracket.  on any given day any team can beat anybody.

i believe that college football fans and bettors alike deserve better than what we saw last night.  we all deserve to see a true national champion crowned...the right way.  take nothing away from alabama or lsu for they are great programs.  had there been a playoff, they would both be in.  and had they both won in their respected brackets and had met in last nights national championship, then so be it.  thats how it played out.  lets not have computers decide who gets to play for the prize.  lets add a little spice or as chef emeril lagasse would say, "BAM!  LET'S KICK IT UP A NOTCH!" and add some of these other teams to add flair and drama to see who is the "true" national champion.

 

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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:24:06 PM
Blah Blah Blah, same BULLSHIT I have heard all day long... You idiots think that because LSU's offense didn't score that they suck. It's called DEFENSE, and being prepared for a team you already played. No one else deserved to be in that game other than the two teams that went. It was Bama because their only loss was to the #1 team, in OT, while the rest of the teams out there, struggled against weaker teams. 

The fact is, these are SEC teams, which are above the rest. Right now, this is how it is... If there had been a playoff, it would have been Bama LSU. The system is fine, get over it. 


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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:31:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Tappy:

Blah Blah Blah, same BULLSHIT I have heard all day long... You idiots think that because LSU's offense didn't score that they suck. It's called DEFENSE, and being prepared for a team you already played. No one else deserved to be in that game other than the two teams that went. It was Bama because their only loss was to the #1 team, in OT, while the rest of the teams out there, struggled against weaker teams. 

The fact is, these are SEC teams, which are above the rest. Right now, this is how it is... If there had been a playoff, it would have been Bama LSU. The system is fine, get over it. 


you have a point but just what if oklahoma state was selected to play lsu in last nights game, you wouldnt be saying the system is fine so take that violin and shove it up your behind.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:32:57 PM
Yes I would be... I would have said that the BSC chose the second best team to play LSU. 
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:38:20 PM
There needs to be a playoff, period. 


but it won't happen
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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:47:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jwheels86:

There needs to be a playoff, period. 


but it won't happen

I see some changes on the horizon.

 

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Posted: 1/10/2012 11:07:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Tappy:

Blah Blah Blah, same BULLSHIT I have heard all day long... You idiots think that because LSU's offense didn't score that they suck. It's called DEFENSE, and being prepared for a team you already played. No one else deserved to be in that game other than the two teams that went. It was Bama because their only loss was to the #1 team, in OT, while the rest of the teams out there, struggled against weaker teams. 

The fact is, these are SEC teams, which are above the rest. Right now, this is how it is... If there had been a playoff, it would have been Bama LSU. The system is fine, get over it. 



If there had been a playoff we would have no debate as to who deserved to be in the title game. This IS the problem with college football today. There is simply to much debating and not enough deciding on the field. 

If Bama and LSU had both made their ways to the title game via a playoff I wouldn't have any complaints about last nights game. Also, if the game had been somewhat entertaining or had LSU shown any signs of offensive life in the game, I wouldn't have any complaints about the game. That game was awful to watch and it's not because there weren't a ton of points or it was a defensive game.

 LSU, with a month to prepare, crossed the 50 once and had 5 first downs. And I say this with all due respect to Bama's D because it was an awesome performance, but that was more about LSU's ineptitude on offense than what Bama's D did to them. Even Penn State, who's offense is terrible, had a better showing against Bama. 
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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:25:38 AM

did'nt okie st. struggle to beat stanford!

lsu would have run a mile a min. on that pokey defense as did stanford! if you wanna make a claim for the west homie?

i feel usc would have gave lsu a better game! as they were the hottest team west of the rockies!! that's real talk, and going up against the kiffins with time to prep, i see a much better game than i'm a man's ballclub who got whacked by iowa st. even if it was a tragic day for them! they have the better athletes and alum. support! hahhaha they should have never lost that game!!! 

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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:33:32 AM
ktrain i differ a little it was a combination of all factors,that bama was brewing that perfect storm,by determined preperation and excecution on gameday,that was nothing by chance! saban and his staff are topnotch! your going against a staff that is in the class of nfl ranks!  real talk!!    against the hatter?  and the monster that saban himself built! he prolly beat him with his players too if they swapped squad's hhahahah  bol ty all!
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Posted: 1/11/2012 9:50:21 AM
The BCS did a great job this season. 


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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:28:41 AM

  this forum is sad... a bunch of whining pussies talking about how pathetic the championship game was, and how boring it was and that Okie State, Oregon would have been more entertaining.... If you want to watch a bunch of high scoring games, from teams who have no idea what a defense is, you have every right to do so, and all you have to do it watch the Big 12 games all season long, but the BCS Championship is about crowning the best team in the nation ( which they successfully did ) not worrying about which two teams would put on a better show for you whiners and complainers.... If you will remember... LSU averaged about 37 points per game this season, and is still one of the best two teams in the nation. They just ran up against a Bama team who was better prepared... end of story

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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:43:50 AM
You do realize that the current "true national champion" in college hoops finished 9th in the Big East last year, right?
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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:47:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tideman:

  this forum is sad... a bunch of whining pussies talking about how pathetic the championship game was, and how boring it was and that Okie State, Oregon would have been more entertaining.... If you want to watch a bunch of high scoring games, from teams who have no idea what a defense is, you have every right to do so, and all you have to do it watch the Big 12 games all season long, but the BCS Championship is about crowning the best team in the nation ( which they successfully did ) not worrying about which two teams would put on a better show for you whiners and complainers.... If you will remember... LSU averaged about 37 points per game this season, and is still one of the best two teams in the nation. They just ran up against a Bama team who was better prepared... end of story


THIS! 
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Posted: 1/11/2012 11:15:21 AM
The true national champion was decided on the court though. No one can complain or debate that they won it on the floor.

My complaint doesn't have so much to do with this year necessarily, although that game on Monday was brutal to watch, then again so was basketballs championship game.

My complaint has to do with the past Boise, TCU, and Utah teams that didn't get chances to prove themselves. If there were playoffs and those teams got crushed then we would have no debate. If Bama would have crushed Okie State in a semi final and then beat LSU in any manner, there would be no debate.

My problem is we don't have that system. I agree this system greatly reduces the value of college hoops regular season. Sometimes a team with a sub .500 record gets hot and wins a conf tourney and steals a spot from a more deserving tram. This does occasionally happen. However, this title matchup has diminished the value of the college football regular season somewhat.no longer can CFB say that every game matters....because it doesn't.

College football needs a playoff. Whether it be 4, 8, or 16 teams, I don't know. That is up for debate. But settle it on the field and end the debate. And if it results in the third best team from the SEC then so be it. No one will be able to argue that a team didn't deserve it though. Yes this would diminsh the regular season a bit, but not enough to the point where it won't matter. It would also give deserving non BCS schools a chance to prove themselves as well.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 11:32:20 AM
I kinda of wanted to see LSU vs Oklahoma State. But Okie state blew it against a 28 underdog on the road. The other teams had their chances but they blew it badly. Oregon got manhandled in the beginning of the year against LSU and Stanford got blown out by Oregon. Does the BCS suck? Yea it does, especially when you have Michigan and VT playing in the sugar bowl when teams Kansas St, Arkansas, Boise, Georgia were snubbed out due to stupid conference qualifying rules and VT/Michigan fans travel better and spend money more freely.

              Alabama would have hung at least 35 on the teams you mentioned above and those teams would be lucky to put up more than 10 points. The BCS did their job this year, the best 2 teams in the country played each other.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 11:39:21 AM
the best i think we're going to get is a college football final 4. Whether they system changes or stays the smae it's not going to really iaffect how i handicap or bet guys
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Posted: 1/11/2012 11:41:27 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by packers1992:

the best i think we're going to get is a college football final 4. Whether they system changes or stays the smae it's not going to really iaffect how i handicap or bet guys


Agreed. The more games the better though.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 12:13:07 PM
hey laroja how come you never accepted my friend request
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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:24:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by packers1992:

hey laroja how come you never accepted my friend request


Because we are probably the same age and your a packers fan brah
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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:58:37 PM
alrighty thats fine
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Posted: 1/11/2012 2:04:33 PM
Laroja you're a titans fan what do you have against the packers?
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Posted: 1/11/2012 3:12:11 PM
So what is your opinion TIDEMAN and TAPPY? u against a playoff system?
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Posted: 1/11/2012 3:40:06 PM
No I am not against a playoff.... I feel that the BCS has done exactly what was intended, which is put the two best teams in the nation into the championship game year in and year out.... people will never be satisfied no matter if they leave it as is, or establish a plus one playoff game... whoever is #5 will be left out, and then all of the whiners and complainers will cry that we need a larger playoff because the #5 team and 6 team should have a shot etc.... Its a never ending routine,
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Posted: 1/11/2012 3:49:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by tideman:

No I am not against a playoff.... I feel that the BCS has done exactly what was intended, which is put the two best teams in the nation into the championship game year in and year out.... people will never be satisfied no matter if they leave it as is, or establish a plus one playoff game... whoever is #5 will be left out, and then all of the whiners and complainers will cry that we need a larger playoff because the #5 team and 6 team should have a shot etc.... Its a never ending routine,


Few teams beyond #3 and #4 have a legitimate argument.  But you are right that teams will always complain about being left out.

But at the very least if you went to a plus 1 you will have 2 less teams who can even have an argument.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 4:21:59 PM
I understand the argument about some team always being disappointed in being left out of a playoff bracket, however, I don't agree with it.

College football is the one sport where you can run the table AND NOT even have a chance at playing for a national title. That needs to change.

I don't see a four or eight team playoff diminishing the value of the regular season all that much, especially after this season. It would leave us with no debate as to who the real finalist are either. No excuses, no comparing whose loss is worse or better. If you have to be questioned as to whether you belong in a playoff format, then you didnt do enough during the regular season anyway.
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