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Even better...like I said, Nebraska ends up with a favorable record b/c of their schedule and their division of the Big 12 being down next year. Great bowl game fade!
haha...that's 1 year away and I know what side I'm putting my money.
I definately agree that the Huskers schedule sets up fairly well and that Mizzou will be down...but, and maybe I'm a little biased, I have to believe Kansas is the favorite in the North. Reesing, Briscoe, Meyer, and Sharp all back on offense. They need to shore up the defense a little bit, but do get Nebraska in Lawrence.
Even better...like I said, Nebraska ends up with a favorable record b/c of their schedule and their division of the Big 12 being down next year. Great bowl game fade!
haha...that's 1 year away and I know what side I'm putting my money.
I definately agree that the Huskers schedule sets up fairly well and that Mizzou will be down...but, and maybe I'm a little biased, I have to believe Kansas is the favorite in the North. Reesing, Briscoe, Meyer, and Sharp all back on offense. They need to shore up the defense a little bit, but do get Nebraska in Lawrence.
Hey Nos Buddy... I was wondering if you could do me a favour.
Could you give me a break down on how you cap a game....say the BCS cmp game. I hear of people talking on the "way" Vegas caps a game to come up with a line. For example... you would mention that you came up with a particular # (say -3) for a game and that when the line came out at +2 you played it. How did you come up with a # for a game? What basic key elements, or formula are you using? You get what I'm trying to ask? This is something I've always wanted to learn more about. But just have no idea where to begin and was hopeing you could walk me thru the steps. The basics at least. Another thing. As far as reading material goes. Any particular College Fts mags you like. Or web sites you like to read during the off season? And the last Question is...do you read or put much use in line movement on games?
A few questions in there. Hope you can answer them. Thanks in advance.
Slo
Hey Nos Buddy... I was wondering if you could do me a favour.
Could you give me a break down on how you cap a game....say the BCS cmp game. I hear of people talking on the "way" Vegas caps a game to come up with a line. For example... you would mention that you came up with a particular # (say -3) for a game and that when the line came out at +2 you played it. How did you come up with a # for a game? What basic key elements, or formula are you using? You get what I'm trying to ask? This is something I've always wanted to learn more about. But just have no idea where to begin and was hopeing you could walk me thru the steps. The basics at least. Another thing. As far as reading material goes. Any particular College Fts mags you like. Or web sites you like to read during the off season? And the last Question is...do you read or put much use in line movement on games?
A few questions in there. Hope you can answer them. Thanks in advance.
Slo
a little bit misleading---TX would have a fine schedule if Utah and Arkansas didn't back out this past year. Pussies.
FL never plays anyone of note OOC and hasn't left the state in 10+ years.
a little bit misleading---TX would have a fine schedule if Utah and Arkansas didn't back out this past year. Pussies.
FL never plays anyone of note OOC and hasn't left the state in 10+ years.
slo - tried to answer questions below![]()
Could you give me a break down on how you cap a game. What basic key elements, or formula are you using?
Basically approach is fairly simple in theory - play out the entire game in my head (such that it is) to come up with a final predicted score considering many and all factors. Then if the line or total available differs from the score by 7 pts or more it could be a play (10 pts or more could be stronger play). For example if predict Ole Miss 30 Tex Tech 28 and opening number is TT 6.5 then that's a 8.5 pt difference in favor of Ole Miss play, if number opens at TT only -3 (5 pt diff) then that would probably not be a play.
Among factors considered to come up with score (which takes experience) - how each team matches up against opponent based on stats and current and prior boxscores giving more weight to recent (i.e. running and passing game for each offense measured against other teams run and pass defense, special teams), series history (1-2 yrs), injuries (if they are injuries who are the replacements and overall team depth), each team tendencies in that type of matchup (fav/dog, home/road, conf/nonconf, grass/turf, etc), any emotional or motivational factors for either side as far as likely being higher or lower than normal, etc. A lot of this can be done during the preceeding week (Mon-Sat) and then factor in any changes, factors, or injuries due to most recent Sat game.
Any particular College Fts mags you like. Or web sites you like to read during the off season?
Phil Steele and 2-3 others such as Athlon, Lindys, etc. As far as websites - like to read the team websites especially during the spring and fall camps or during season if looking for particular injury or other information and monitor various injury reports available online.
do you read or put much use in line movement on games?
Not much - if I like the early number I'll play it knowing that 90% of the time the early number will be eaten up early if it's off or 'soft' (key is recognizing a soft number correctly of course to be on right side of later movement). If the early number is not a play, and later in the week public money shifts far enough to become a play then it might a late addition (also good to have a couple books to shop lines if possible). Basically whatever it takes to have the best possible number at the end of the day, sometimes that is the opening number, other times it might be intentionally waiting for the line to go up or down closer to game day. At the end of the day it only matters what number you have and the result on the field, which side the public ends up with makes no difference whatsoever (unless you're waiting to take a particular side and anticipate public money will move it). For example if you can get Ole Miss +6.5 early and later the line moves to 4.5, the reason it moved ultimately makes NO difference as to the outcome on the field only that it did move and now the line is not as favorable.
slo - tried to answer questions below![]()
Could you give me a break down on how you cap a game. What basic key elements, or formula are you using?
Basically approach is fairly simple in theory - play out the entire game in my head (such that it is) to come up with a final predicted score considering many and all factors. Then if the line or total available differs from the score by 7 pts or more it could be a play (10 pts or more could be stronger play). For example if predict Ole Miss 30 Tex Tech 28 and opening number is TT 6.5 then that's a 8.5 pt difference in favor of Ole Miss play, if number opens at TT only -3 (5 pt diff) then that would probably not be a play.
Among factors considered to come up with score (which takes experience) - how each team matches up against opponent based on stats and current and prior boxscores giving more weight to recent (i.e. running and passing game for each offense measured against other teams run and pass defense, special teams), series history (1-2 yrs), injuries (if they are injuries who are the replacements and overall team depth), each team tendencies in that type of matchup (fav/dog, home/road, conf/nonconf, grass/turf, etc), any emotional or motivational factors for either side as far as likely being higher or lower than normal, etc. A lot of this can be done during the preceeding week (Mon-Sat) and then factor in any changes, factors, or injuries due to most recent Sat game.
Any particular College Fts mags you like. Or web sites you like to read during the off season?
Phil Steele and 2-3 others such as Athlon, Lindys, etc. As far as websites - like to read the team websites especially during the spring and fall camps or during season if looking for particular injury or other information and monitor various injury reports available online.
do you read or put much use in line movement on games?
Not much - if I like the early number I'll play it knowing that 90% of the time the early number will be eaten up early if it's off or 'soft' (key is recognizing a soft number correctly of course to be on right side of later movement). If the early number is not a play, and later in the week public money shifts far enough to become a play then it might a late addition (also good to have a couple books to shop lines if possible). Basically whatever it takes to have the best possible number at the end of the day, sometimes that is the opening number, other times it might be intentionally waiting for the line to go up or down closer to game day. At the end of the day it only matters what number you have and the result on the field, which side the public ends up with makes no difference whatsoever (unless you're waiting to take a particular side and anticipate public money will move it). For example if you can get Ole Miss +6.5 early and later the line moves to 4.5, the reason it moved ultimately makes NO difference as to the outcome on the field only that it did move and now the line is not as favorable.
USC plays San Jose State next year and I can ALREADY hear the masses freaking out.
USC plays San Jose State next year and I can ALREADY hear the masses freaking out.
WTF are you talking about? 1st of all they won't go undefeated in the xII. Second IF they DO *snicker* they are a lock for the BCS. The xII is not the big 10(11) or the ACC, MWC,confUSA. But I might as well say that Nebraska being undefeated is about as likely as the US having a Black pres...uh oh.
WTF are you talking about? 1st of all they won't go undefeated in the xII. Second IF they DO *snicker* they are a lock for the BCS. The xII is not the big 10(11) or the ACC, MWC,confUSA. But I might as well say that Nebraska being undefeated is about as likely as the US having a Black pres...uh oh.

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