2013 MLB 5 inn and 9 inn Thread

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Posted: 3/30/2013 7:00:53 PM
Had a great ST for 2013
Thanks to 
Royals 21-3-1
Seattle 16-8-0
On to 2013 MLB Season

Starters that are starting their 1st start for 2013 and their 1st start of past years regardless of team they were with,This should give us some insight what to expect in days going forward of starter
Sunday 03/31
Texas 
Runs allowed ,Harrison Last 3 years 1st start
 Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0/0/0
2011 0/1/1
2010 1/3/4
Astro's
Runs allowed Norris
 year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2/0/2
2011 5/2/7
2010 7/1/8
 according to these past records it appears as the logical winner will be Harrison
Once we get into 3 games i will eliminate past years and just post current, once we get a feel of starters abilities 

Under is looking good too in 5 and 9


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Posted: 3/30/2013 7:31:35 PM
good luck
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Posted: 3/30/2013 7:38:57 PM
Thread requirement is the Starter is responsible for the complete game regardless of time in game and will get the W or L just as we who wager on it get a W or L on our wager Ties in 5 inn are just that Pushes





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Posted: 3/30/2013 7:51:50 PM
Best of luck! 
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Posted: 3/30/2013 8:34:06 PM

steveo; charging a starter with a loss if he was ahead or tied at 5 innings seems a little severe. That would make him responsible for bullpen performance he had no control over. Why not keep your record as 5 innings or whenever he exited the game? If you are playing 5 innings, which I do too, that would seem to be more indicative of probable future performance. Just my 2 cents worth. BOL of course, we are in this together to an extent.

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Posted: 3/30/2013 8:41:48 PM
Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
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Posted: 3/30/2013 9:40:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by stevo1:

Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
I really don't know if it evens out in the long run but I do know there are guys I will back 5 innings only because their bullpens and offenses are not good enough to count on for a bail out. Let's both try to get a better feel for that this year. I would be willing to track it stat wise except that I already track so many thing unavailable elsewhere I really don't have the time, but maybe one of your fans would be willing? Never hurts to ask for a volunteer. If (insert name) is already a fan of yours and tailing you he might be willing to do something to help you too.
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:01:58 PM
After thinking about it i usually post both 5 and 9 inn results,although i usually fault the starter for both losses only because they do not always stop pitching after 5 inn although our 5 inn wager stops

I always record both anyway so i can always break them out easily enough

Just did  all of Mondays plays and i need to find an easier way as 3 hours is wayyy too much time for this

I'll go wacky in  2 weeks with all this work
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:04:56 PM
Game one on Monday format

Padres/Volquez
Runs allowed 
Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 3-2-5
2011 5-1-6 
2010 only have #'s from July so pass

Mets/Niese
Runs allowed 
 year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-5-5
2011 2-0-2
2010 2-1-3
Niese appears as the play in 5 inn and over in 9
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:07:48 PM
game 2
Cubs/ Samardzija
Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-3-3 only one year record

Pirates/Burnett
Runs allowed 
 year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-4-6
2011 3-3-6
2010 4-0-4
 Samardzija appears as the play but just one year,maybe pass

game 3
Rockies/Chacin
Runs allowed 
Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 7-0-7
2011 0-0-0
2010 0-1-1

Brewers/Gallardo
Runs allowed 
 year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-0-1
2011 2-5-7
2010 4-1-5
Gallardo appears as the play
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:10:51 PM
game 4 and 5

Giants/Cain
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-5-7
2011 0-0-0
20101-3-4

Lad / Kershaw
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-3-3
2011 0-1-1
2010 3-1-4
Liking the Under in 5 inn
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Phillies / Hamels
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 3-3-6
2011 6-1-7
2010 3-1-4
Braves/ Hudson
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-1-3
2011 1-1-2
2010 0-5-5
Hudson appears as the Play
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game 6 and 7

Cards /Wainwright
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-5-6
2011 0-3-3
2010 Pass
D'Backs/Kennedy
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-2-4
2011 3-3-6
2010 3-0-3
Wainwright appears as the play
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Boston/Lester
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-3-3
2011 5-4-9
2010 4-2-6

Nyy / Sabathia
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 5-2-7
2011 3-0-3
2010 2-6-8
This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
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game 8 and 9

Royals/Shields
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 6-0-6
2011 0-3-3
2010 2-1-3

Chw / Sale
2012 1-1-2
only one year avail
Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
 hate going against Royals this early
after such a great ST
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Detroit / Verlander
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-2-2
2011 3-3-6
2010 4-0-4

Twins/Worley
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-4-5
2011 0-3-3
2010 no record
Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
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game 10 and 11

Cards /Wainwright
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-5-6
2011 0-3-3
2010 Pass
D'Backs/Kennedy
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-2-4
2011 3-3-6
2010 3-0-3
Wainwright appears as the play
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Boston/Lester
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-3-3
2011 5-4-9
2010 4-2-6

Nyy / Sabathia
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 5-2-7
2011 3-0-3
2010 2-6-8
This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:14:49 PM
12 and 13

Royals/Shields
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 6-0-6
2011 0-3-3
2010 2-1-3

Chw / Sale
2012 1-1-2
only one year avail
Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
 hate going against Royals this early
after such a great ST
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Detroit / Verlander
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-2-2
2011 3-3-6
2010 4-0-4

Twins/Worley
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-4-5
2011 0-3-3
2010 no record
Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
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14 and 15
Seattle/Hernandez
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-5-7
2011 2-0-2
2010 0-3-3

Oakland/ Anderson
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-0-1
2011 0-5-5
2010 0-2-2
like the under in 5 inn
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Laa / Weaver
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-0-0
2011 0-2-2
2010 3-0-3

Cinn/ Cueto
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-0-0
2011 0-0-0
2010 2-4-6
Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
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games 16 and 17

Seattle/Hernandez
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 2-5-7
2011 2-0-2
2010 0-3-3

Oakland/ Anderson
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 1-0-1
2011 0-5-5
2010 0-2-2
like the under in 5 inn
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Laa / Weaver
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-0-0
2011 0-2-2
2010 3-0-3

Cinn/ Cueto
Runs allowed
year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
2012 0-0-0
2011 0-0-0
2010 2-4-6
Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:44:25 PM
I need to get a life,,, this is too much,but i do win a lot of games
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Posted: 3/31/2013 12:23:55 AM
THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!!!
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Posted: 3/31/2013 4:39:08 AM
hey steveo , i cashed earlier with your sea pick :)
so the pick for tom r Under first hf and under fg ? 
and did you also mean to pick Texas as well?
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Posted: 3/31/2013 10:04:13 AM
First i want to thank you guys and gals if any, and am looking for a couple of people that are good with spread sheets as i am not so we can formulate information we can use to post here in this forum to save time in posting 
MLB is a stat driven animal and to be successful you must apply a lot of information regarding a play as you must evaluate the players along with the team

If anyone is avail please let me know

key, maybe we can join forces to eliminate duplication  
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I usually do not care what happens in 6-9 innings as for me its the two top starters vs each other,but i do keep records to complete the contest.What i do not follow is the relievers and all the changes that happen after 5 inn with subs and managerial changes and all the rest involved in the final game
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Posted: 3/31/2013 10:10:19 AM
Thanks stevo 1 for everthing you put in a lot of home work
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Posted: 3/31/2013 10:18:59 AM
Mastermind

I can not see how Harrison and Texas does not win this contest

Understand in the stats of runs allowed he had others pitching some of those other innings from 6-9 as he did not in most cases pitch the entire game but he had the support of the staff to assist him in getting the win just as the other starter had his staff to back him up To me it all washes out for both

That's why i place the runs allowed for the game on the Starter as it gets too difficult for one person to break out every pitcher who enters a game
Hey this is a hobby for me to win a few bucks not a vocation although some times it feels like a JOB
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Posted: 3/31/2013 10:40:42 AM
Here's Harrison 2012 record runs allowed 
   5 inn 0/1//2/7/8/0/2/3/1/1/1/0/0/1/0/2/1/0/3/5/1/5/0/2/0/6/5/1/0/1
6-9 inn 0/0/2/1/3/3/2/2/0/1/2/0/0/0/2/1/1/0/4/0/2/4/3/0/0/2/1/3/1/0
Totals you can do the math

Understand his staff most likely pitched many of the innings 6-9 but they were the runs allowed for the year 2012 under Harrison's reign
You can also see with Bold #'s where he did his best work as any runs over 2 is not acceptable to me to wager on a starter
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Posted: 3/31/2013 10:57:01 AM
I know, well what about Norris

5 inn 2/4/4/2/0/1/0/1/0/3/10/4/3/3/2/3/9/1/0/1/2/6/3/1/0/2
6-9    0/0/0/7/3/1/0/2/4/3/1/0/3/1/0/0/4/4/8/5/1/1/1/2/5/3
as you can see his staff and he show a lot more bad pitching inn 6-9 than texas starters
notice that 10 runs allowed in his 11th start (9-13 ) were bad
along with # 2 and 3 as well as others that stand out

I have this for every starter in both leagues
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