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#1 Posted: 12/6/2011 11:26:39 PM TOP 10
1. l.james - easily the best all round player in the game
2. d.nowitzki - best closer in the nba
3. d.howard - best bigman and defender in the nba
4. k.durant - freakishly good
5. d.wade - dead set superstar
6. c.paul - best pure PG going today
7. d.williams - awesome PG and defender
8. d.rose - MVP
9. k.bryant - still great
10. c.anthony - offensive stud |
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#2 Posted: 12/7/2011 1:46:14 PM
Otherwise I agree with your list 
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#3 Posted: 12/7/2011 5:16:51 PM
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#4 Posted: 12/7/2011 5:38:52 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123: your list is garbage, total GARBAGE LBJ
guess only regular season counts otherwise the queen would not be top 10
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#5 Posted: 12/7/2011 5:50:12 PM
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#6 Posted: 12/7/2011 6:08:09 PM
Lebron James over Dirk... WTF were you smoking when the Mavs beat the Heat in the Finals?  |
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#7 Posted: 12/7/2011 8:28:19 PM Take Chandler away from Dallas and the Mavs would have been soft as ....tissue paper.
Don't mistake a list for individual talent....and team accomplishments from individual skill.
No one player does more things well than LBJ in the league.
When measuring a player it is not just pts scored....or 4th qtr scoring.....defense...blocks.....rebounds.....scoring...steals all come into play.
That being said....when looking at the totatilty of a BB player....LBJ has all the skills....some players have some skills....but LBJ does more things better than all the superstars.
Anyone that says 4th qtr scoring trumps all catergories is simply being unrealistic.
Translating this to football.
Do you want the running back that can break it long and also get the short yards...and catch the ball and block
or just the third down running back with good hands on 3rd down (i,e, 4th qtr scoring)
Do you want the receiver that can go deep...and also go across the middle or just the 3rd down receiver moving the chains (i.e., 4th qtr scoring)
The media has written a script that is just not true...and that's why when these lists get typed "who is best ALL AROUND PLAYER" folks look crazy when they at LBJ
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#8 Posted: 12/7/2011 11:42:11 PM |
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#9 Posted: 12/7/2011 11:42:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:
your list is garbage, total GARBAGE
LBJ
coming from a guy who would actually pay money to suck  kobe bryants penis it dosent mean much
what happened to kobe in the playoffs - um we kicked his arse
barea destroyed you arse clowns to
dirk is my favorite player of all time but i am impartial - lebron is also the best defender at his position in the nba unfortunetly dirk is only an average defender
uneducated nba fans such as yourself who know garbage all about basketball dont understand it is a 2 way game even if offense is more important
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#10 Posted: 12/7/2011 11:45:05 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by MotorCitySmitty:
KOBE #9 ?
ok tell me which guy on that list is he better than 
he aint at his peak anymore |
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#12 Posted: 12/7/2011 11:59:37 PM BYE THE WAY LBJ IS THE BEST ALL ROUND PLAYER.
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#13 Posted: 12/8/2011 12:10:16 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by MotorCitySmitty:
ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO COMPARE DWIGHT HOWARD TO CHRIS PAUL OR TO DURANT. DIFFERENT PLAYERS GREAT AT DIFFERENT THINGS NOT A KOBE FAN BUT LETS SAY WERE TALKIN A GAME OF ONE ON ONE MY MONEY IS ON KOBE.
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nba aint one on one though, it aint boxing its a team game
beside people tend to know who is a better player than someone else at a particular point in time also taking into consideration past performance |
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#14 Posted: 12/8/2011 2:08:20 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016: Take Chandler away from Dallas and the Mavs would have been soft as ....tissue paper.
Don't mistake a list for individual talent....and team accomplishments from individual skill.
No one player does more things well than LBJ in the league.
When measuring a player it is not just pts scored....or 4th qtr scoring.....defense...blocks.....rebounds.....scoring...steals all come into play.
That being said....when looking at the totatilty of a BB player....LBJ has all the skills....some players have some skills....but LBJ does more things better than all the superstars.
Anyone that says 4th qtr scoring trumps all catergories is simply being unrealistic.
Translating this to football.
Do you want the running back that can break it long and also get the short yards...and catch the ball and block
or just the third down running back with good hands on 3rd down (i,e, 4th qtr scoring)
Do you want the receiver that can go deep...and also go across the middle or just the 3rd down receiver moving the chains (i.e., 4th qtr scoring)
The media has written a script that is just not true...and that's why when these lists get typed "who is best ALL AROUND PLAYER" folks look crazy when they at LBJ
I respect Lebron James for being a great player. With that said, he still isn't the best player in the league... and we could go on all day about this with each other's opinion. However you cannot HIDE facts, that Lebron James shrinks under pressure when the game is on the line. Simply stated, you cannot nominate a player for being the best player in the league when they led the league in turnover % last year behind Russell Westbrook and John Wall. For every great play he comes up with, there is usually and equally opposite worse play that comes about. There is a reason James did not even come close to winning the MVP last year as previous years - he isn't the same player as he was in Cleveland. Sorry to say this, but his best days really are behind him. He is not going to get any better. Post defense??? One of the most atrocious post-up defenders in the league. If Lebron does not develop a hook or some kind of back to basket shot start happening on a regular basis, he will never be the player the fans want him to be. He has become predictable with his moves and can be shut down.
Its either a travesty you have Durant below James - or you are a serious Miami Heat homer with a serious bias. |
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#15 Posted: 12/9/2011 12:48:27 AM |
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#17 Posted: 12/9/2011 1:17:44 AM
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#18 Posted: 12/9/2011 3:03:22 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by samdude3: I would not have Dwayne Wade in my top 10. Also, Derick Rose is the best PG in the league right now. For some reason he is still underrated. Otherwise I agree with your list
You must be joking bud
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#19 Posted: 12/9/2011 3:04:05 AM K.D Rose Dwight Melo Kobe Cp3 Dirk Wade Monte Ellis |
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#20 Posted: 12/9/2011 6:26:42 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
I agree mostly with all the players on that list but in a different order... I think I wouldn't have melo on there though.
he is a machinegun on offense and a on defense
who else would you put in the top 10 then?
only the PFs have what it takes to be top 10 in the near future : l.aldridge/k.love/b.griffen amare is close to the top 10 but once again cant play a lick of defense, westbrook needs alot of improvement to get there |
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#22 Posted: 12/9/2011 11:13:12 AM
Durant 2
Kobe 3
Rose 4
Wade 5
Paul 6
Nowitzki 7
Howard 8
Anthony 9
D. Williams 10 |
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#23 Posted: 12/9/2011 12:10:46 PM Top 10 is pretty vague though. Are we counting in durability, playoffs? clutch? or just overall talent? If we did a top 10 of who i would built my team around, i would have a totally different list..
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#24 Posted: 12/9/2011 12:19:32 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by winkstrap:
he is a machinegun on offense and a on defense
who else would you put in the top 10 then?
only the PFs have what it takes to be top 10 in the near future : l.aldridge/k.love/b.griffen amare is close to the top 10 but once again cant play a lick of defense, westbrook needs alot of improvement to get there
you are exactly right, great offensive player but shitty on defense and he has only gotten out of the first round ONCE!! in his whole career..I want winners on my top 10. I like you wink, im just debating with you...
My top 10 i think is the same as yours except i would definitely take out melo and put in:
K Love ( a beast 20pts a game, 15 rebs) did some 20-20 games last season.. He shot 85% from the FT line, amazing for a big man. 41% from 3pt land!!! (made the same amount of 3pts per game average as Melo but shot less attempts) ... Yes he played on a shitty team but his rebound stats were Wilt like. And melo had Billups and amare but his team underachieved.. |
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#25 Posted: 12/9/2011 12:20:49 PM |
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