right now... the bobcats are rolling and they are doing it on both ends of the court... they should have enough rest to do it on both ends tomorrow against the celtics... they beat clevland and i think they can do it again tomorrow! what do you guys think?
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right now... the bobcats are rolling and they are doing it on both ends of the court... they should have enough rest to do it on both ends tomorrow against the celtics... they beat clevland and i think they can do it again tomorrow! what do you guys think?
If you like the bobcats there no sense taking them now. THat line should climb to at least 5 by game time. All the stats and trends point right now to Char getting points. They are 6-2 at home but being a avid Celtics fan they have turned the corner in Mia and Rondo will abuse Felton tom.
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If you like the bobcats there no sense taking them now. THat line should climb to at least 5 by game time. All the stats and trends point right now to Char getting points. They are 6-2 at home but being a avid Celtics fan they have turned the corner in Mia and Rondo will abuse Felton tom.
If you like the bobcats there no sense taking them now. THat line should climb to at least 5 by game time. All the stats and trends point right now to Char getting points. They are 6-2 at home but being a avid Celtics fan they have turned the corner in Mia and Rondo will abuse Felton tom.
rondo is just an average player. how hard is it to feed the ball to KG, PEIRCE, and ALLEN? put him on another team and i dont think he has the skills to carry any team by himself. if rondo and cp3 switch teams or rondo and devin harris switch teams which team will get more wins? good luck on your pick.
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Quote Originally Posted by BIGJBALLERS:
If you like the bobcats there no sense taking them now. THat line should climb to at least 5 by game time. All the stats and trends point right now to Char getting points. They are 6-2 at home but being a avid Celtics fan they have turned the corner in Mia and Rondo will abuse Felton tom.
rondo is just an average player. how hard is it to feed the ball to KG, PEIRCE, and ALLEN? put him on another team and i dont think he has the skills to carry any team by himself. if rondo and cp3 switch teams or rondo and devin harris switch teams which team will get more wins? good luck on your pick.
chucky only from a true hater if you watched one minute of their games you would see that he runs the offense to perfection. He is the fastest guard in the NBA and is really that hard to abuse Raymond Felton come on now. I know he has issues and never said he was better then CP3 but for this team he is perfect!
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chucky only from a true hater if you watched one minute of their games you would see that he runs the offense to perfection. He is the fastest guard in the NBA and is really that hard to abuse Raymond Felton come on now. I know he has issues and never said he was better then CP3 but for this team he is perfect!
i will agree he is a good fit for celtics. i do not hate the celtics at all. i hate a team one day and love them the next, thats gambling. i didnt say he wouldnt abuse felton, just my opinion that he is not as good as that the celtics make him out to be. how do you think he would do on a team where he has to carry the team on his shoulders by himself?
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i will agree he is a good fit for celtics. i do not hate the celtics at all. i hate a team one day and love them the next, thats gambling. i didnt say he wouldnt abuse felton, just my opinion that he is not as good as that the celtics make him out to be. how do you think he would do on a team where he has to carry the team on his shoulders by himself?
valid points. Last year he carried the team pretty much single handily through the bulls series averaging a triple double. I think he would be alright not D-Will or CP 3 good but good. Getting back to the game i really think -3.5 is a gift. Rondo- Playing well KG- shot 11-12 vs the heat PP- Been playing well all year Ray- Sucking but hit a clutch three at the end that is something i guess Perkins: Was a beast down low last 4 games
Bench: Sheed- Had a solid game his the heat House: Will get open looks off the double Daniels: Be a able to take henderson any time he wants on the second unit
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valid points. Last year he carried the team pretty much single handily through the bulls series averaging a triple double. I think he would be alright not D-Will or CP 3 good but good. Getting back to the game i really think -3.5 is a gift. Rondo- Playing well KG- shot 11-12 vs the heat PP- Been playing well all year Ray- Sucking but hit a clutch three at the end that is something i guess Perkins: Was a beast down low last 4 games
Bench: Sheed- Had a solid game his the heat House: Will get open looks off the double Daniels: Be a able to take henderson any time he wants on the second unit
boston barely beat the knicks. larry brown has got these guys playing as a team.. they beat clevland which is a tough task in it self. they blew out toronto they blew out indiana they beat the cavs they beat washington at home. sure your probably thinking big deal but they arent doing it individually they are doing it as a unit. boston got lucky with miami. they dont have that same drive they used to have. they're giving up a lot of points as well. charlotte is not playing at a low tempo anymore. everyone is healthy, gerald wallace is on fire..... what more can i say?
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boston barely beat the knicks. larry brown has got these guys playing as a team.. they beat clevland which is a tough task in it self. they blew out toronto they blew out indiana they beat the cavs they beat washington at home. sure your probably thinking big deal but they arent doing it individually they are doing it as a unit. boston got lucky with miami. they dont have that same drive they used to have. they're giving up a lot of points as well. charlotte is not playing at a low tempo anymore. everyone is healthy, gerald wallace is on fire..... what more can i say?
beanz if you watched boston at mia they certainly did not get lucky at all. They earned that win. I might be wrong on this one but Char does not scare me one bit. They have no player like Wade who commends ref to call fouls. The team defense for boston got much better in Mia and will continue in Char. Boston 97 Char 87
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beanz if you watched boston at mia they certainly did not get lucky at all. They earned that win. I might be wrong on this one but Char does not scare me one bit. They have no player like Wade who commends ref to call fouls. The team defense for boston got much better in Mia and will continue in Char. Boston 97 Char 87
celtics gave up like a 10 point lead and got it back towards the end. in every charlotte win they commanded the lead. how can you say you have a good defense when you allow the other team to get back into the game? right now the best defense in the nba is being played by charlotte and the lakers. i just see better basketball being played by the bobcats... they are without a doubt a playoff team right now and they will beat tomorrow celtics tomorrow. celtics lost to the indiana pacers for crying outloud.
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celtics gave up like a 10 point lead and got it back towards the end. in every charlotte win they commanded the lead. how can you say you have a good defense when you allow the other team to get back into the game? right now the best defense in the nba is being played by charlotte and the lakers. i just see better basketball being played by the bobcats... they are without a doubt a playoff team right now and they will beat tomorrow celtics tomorrow. celtics lost to the indiana pacers for crying outloud.
i forgot to add in the 33 point loss from thier previous matchup in to the equation as well as the 80% of the consensus thats on Boston. The equation goes as follows.
win = (33point loss in previous matchup + 80%consensus on boston ) + (x)
does anyone know what X=?
x= boston is going down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i forgot to add in the 33 point loss from thier previous matchup in to the equation as well as the 80% of the consensus thats on Boston. The equation goes as follows.
win = (33point loss in previous matchup + 80%consensus on boston ) + (x)
the line is probably attracting some blind boston backers but celtics is hard to team to read, we all know they are good but arent playing that great now, i remarked also in forum some people handicap games with player match up example saying rondo will abuse felton is this telling us he knows basketball? come on match up is important but we are putting money here , rondo is good player but since when he covers the spread for boston... please stop tell us things has nothing to do with the real result of this game. charlotte playing excellent ball now, the spread wont go to 5 some said it here. i think backing charlotte is kinda dangerous, now we feel they can really put the W in our bank, they might let us down.
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the line is probably attracting some blind boston backers but celtics is hard to team to read, we all know they are good but arent playing that great now, i remarked also in forum some people handicap games with player match up example saying rondo will abuse felton is this telling us he knows basketball? come on match up is important but we are putting money here , rondo is good player but since when he covers the spread for boston... please stop tell us things has nothing to do with the real result of this game. charlotte playing excellent ball now, the spread wont go to 5 some said it here. i think backing charlotte is kinda dangerous, now we feel they can really put the W in our bank, they might let us down.
but man the bobcats that last game looked awesome. executed plays had ton of assists (from what i saw idk the stats) and had solid solid defense. i was really impressed with gerald wallace. i think stephen jackson has impacted the offense and he got to pretty happy right now
boston is good but this might be a spot where they need to barely squeak out a victory like in miami. they havent been playing like the lakers, and hey remind me of the cowboys last year with all that talent and still not getting the results people expected
i really dont know right now, i think the bobcats looked good and ill put my money on that and buy some points
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indeed the over.
but man the bobcats that last game looked awesome. executed plays had ton of assists (from what i saw idk the stats) and had solid solid defense. i was really impressed with gerald wallace. i think stephen jackson has impacted the offense and he got to pretty happy right now
boston is good but this might be a spot where they need to barely squeak out a victory like in miami. they havent been playing like the lakers, and hey remind me of the cowboys last year with all that talent and still not getting the results people expected
i really dont know right now, i think the bobcats looked good and ill put my money on that and buy some points
Love this thread, Get both sides with good opinions.
So here is my take. When I look at games, I try to keep it simple and use logic.
Logic says this is a hard game to be backing the celtics. When I take a side I want some kind of a advantage, a good reason, some match ups or stats to back up my reasoning to back a team.
So what it comes down to is Do you back a elite team in boston who is clearly not playing well but still winning, Or do you back a hot team who is at home, and playing with confidence. And is on a winning streak.
Tough Bet to win with boston. My only play would be the Bobcats And I would lay back and try to get the best number I can get or no play at all or buy some points with the bobcats. Your preference
Do not ignore the signs boston have showed you all season, 1. One leg Kevin Garnett is not 100% 2. I see old people! boston seems like they have had 5 birthdays since last year. 3. Top shelf nba teams have beat them all year every game.
I say all of that about boston and I backed them going into miami but I did not like the way they won. And the only reason I took the celtics moneyline was because I Was betting against The heat. I knew they was not playing well.
Few tips for all the young up and coming nba cappers of the world. Do not bet against Hot teams in the Nba.
On that theory alone I will not take boston in this situation, to many disadvantages against you in this game.
Also history shows that this team matches up very well style wise against the celtics, They play the same way.. and actually I think the celtics style of play, helps the bobcats out... Because that slow the ball down, and run your offense style of play is exactly what the bobcats run and matches up well against. Last year the sorry bobcats took the celtics into 2 overtime games... This year the first meeting the Bobcats got beat down by the celtics 92-58 and the celtics was on a b2b. This was the bobcats first game of the season, so obviously we know this is a different team now.
And that's another advantage for the bobcats. Motivation, from losing so bad last time to the celtics. The cats will come out and play hard. Which should always be factored in with any nba game you cap. Some of the time that is the only difference.
Will the celtics match they energy, Good question. Larry Brown was embarrased from that game, The players was also.
Again, Here are the advantages for the bobcats to win this game straight up.
1. Home Court advantage.. which can help if they rally in the 4th and get any kind of decent lead. The home team players play with more confidence and the opposing team players energy gets sapped. Seems unfair don't it.
2. Motivation. The bobcats got blew out last game, not just blew out but embarrased. They will be motivated to win and will play with maximum effort tonight.
3. Rested. 2 days rest and at home.
4. Styles of play helps bobcats.
5. Hot team right now, playing with a lot of confidence and again playing at home. On a winning streak.
6. Bobcats have proven they can beat a good team at home. Ask lebron and Mo.
7. They can score now, no longer are they struggling to get close to a hundred points. 2 of last 4 they have went over a hundred points... brown has tweaked something, can some one say action jackson...
advantages for boston
1. on paper a better team, but has not play like that team on paper all season. except for the win in cleveland who was trying out a brand new rotation and players for the first time all season.
2. Paul pierce and rondo.
questions for boston.
1. will they match the bobcats energy tonight. 2. will human nature allow them to look down on the bobcats since they beat them down so bad last game. 3. Will ray ray break out his slump.. His hands will be full tonight.
Please give me suggestions and opinions why boston will win. I hate to say it but if the books didn't need even money on both sides of this game I think the cats would and should be favored by the -3... Call me crazy if you want. But to cap these nba game accurately and consistently you have to make your crazy make sense and back it up with info and stats. If you can do that you are not crazy. Just a good capper...
If after reading all of this and you still believe in boston tonight, please post why. I would love to hear the other side.
p.s. I watches every nba games. and yes boston should of lost to the heat the last game, but being they are a veteran team and the heat are the one man gang heat. They squeezed out a victory like a elite team should and will do most of the time this season. Did Boston convince me that they are ready to be a elite team. No... As long as garnett is hopping around on 1 leg this will never be the same team from previous years. What garnett brings emotionally to this boston team can not be measured. But he can not dominate night in and night out on a bad leg.
Before I go... Ask Your self this boston backers... Why would the books only make the celtics a 3 point favorite vs a team they last beat 92-59..... Are they trying to give away money line money on the boston with that kind of value. Think about it....
The smart money will be on the bobcats or no action.
If I am wrong on this game I will be back to eat crow and apologize to you boston backers....
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Love this thread, Get both sides with good opinions.
So here is my take. When I look at games, I try to keep it simple and use logic.
Logic says this is a hard game to be backing the celtics. When I take a side I want some kind of a advantage, a good reason, some match ups or stats to back up my reasoning to back a team.
So what it comes down to is Do you back a elite team in boston who is clearly not playing well but still winning, Or do you back a hot team who is at home, and playing with confidence. And is on a winning streak.
Tough Bet to win with boston. My only play would be the Bobcats And I would lay back and try to get the best number I can get or no play at all or buy some points with the bobcats. Your preference
Do not ignore the signs boston have showed you all season, 1. One leg Kevin Garnett is not 100% 2. I see old people! boston seems like they have had 5 birthdays since last year. 3. Top shelf nba teams have beat them all year every game.
I say all of that about boston and I backed them going into miami but I did not like the way they won. And the only reason I took the celtics moneyline was because I Was betting against The heat. I knew they was not playing well.
Few tips for all the young up and coming nba cappers of the world. Do not bet against Hot teams in the Nba.
On that theory alone I will not take boston in this situation, to many disadvantages against you in this game.
Also history shows that this team matches up very well style wise against the celtics, They play the same way.. and actually I think the celtics style of play, helps the bobcats out... Because that slow the ball down, and run your offense style of play is exactly what the bobcats run and matches up well against. Last year the sorry bobcats took the celtics into 2 overtime games... This year the first meeting the Bobcats got beat down by the celtics 92-58 and the celtics was on a b2b. This was the bobcats first game of the season, so obviously we know this is a different team now.
And that's another advantage for the bobcats. Motivation, from losing so bad last time to the celtics. The cats will come out and play hard. Which should always be factored in with any nba game you cap. Some of the time that is the only difference.
Will the celtics match they energy, Good question. Larry Brown was embarrased from that game, The players was also.
Again, Here are the advantages for the bobcats to win this game straight up.
1. Home Court advantage.. which can help if they rally in the 4th and get any kind of decent lead. The home team players play with more confidence and the opposing team players energy gets sapped. Seems unfair don't it.
2. Motivation. The bobcats got blew out last game, not just blew out but embarrased. They will be motivated to win and will play with maximum effort tonight.
3. Rested. 2 days rest and at home.
4. Styles of play helps bobcats.
5. Hot team right now, playing with a lot of confidence and again playing at home. On a winning streak.
6. Bobcats have proven they can beat a good team at home. Ask lebron and Mo.
7. They can score now, no longer are they struggling to get close to a hundred points. 2 of last 4 they have went over a hundred points... brown has tweaked something, can some one say action jackson...
advantages for boston
1. on paper a better team, but has not play like that team on paper all season. except for the win in cleveland who was trying out a brand new rotation and players for the first time all season.
2. Paul pierce and rondo.
questions for boston.
1. will they match the bobcats energy tonight. 2. will human nature allow them to look down on the bobcats since they beat them down so bad last game. 3. Will ray ray break out his slump.. His hands will be full tonight.
Please give me suggestions and opinions why boston will win. I hate to say it but if the books didn't need even money on both sides of this game I think the cats would and should be favored by the -3... Call me crazy if you want. But to cap these nba game accurately and consistently you have to make your crazy make sense and back it up with info and stats. If you can do that you are not crazy. Just a good capper...
If after reading all of this and you still believe in boston tonight, please post why. I would love to hear the other side.
p.s. I watches every nba games. and yes boston should of lost to the heat the last game, but being they are a veteran team and the heat are the one man gang heat. They squeezed out a victory like a elite team should and will do most of the time this season. Did Boston convince me that they are ready to be a elite team. No... As long as garnett is hopping around on 1 leg this will never be the same team from previous years. What garnett brings emotionally to this boston team can not be measured. But he can not dominate night in and night out on a bad leg.
Before I go... Ask Your self this boston backers... Why would the books only make the celtics a 3 point favorite vs a team they last beat 92-59..... Are they trying to give away money line money on the boston with that kind of value. Think about it....
The smart money will be on the bobcats or no action.
If I am wrong on this game I will be back to eat crow and apologize to you boston backers....
Last Five games vs the Celtics Felton shooting just over 28% from the field averaging 5 turnovers a game. Felton runs their team and he takes way too many shoots. Every bobcats game i watch their offense stalls multiple times a game. I should have went into more detail but the ball pressure Rondo will put on Felton will totally take Char out of their sets. Yes KG is hurt but he playing well and should take bobcats front line pretty easy.
Char is the best def team right now and Jackson has added a huge spark but the celtics are extremely undervalued for a team that could blow char out. I could be wrong and Char could put on a defensive clinic and win this one at the end but i think the chances are far greater that this is a 10pt lead for the celtics from wire to wire.
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Thanks kevin for a good write up:
Last Five games vs the Celtics Felton shooting just over 28% from the field averaging 5 turnovers a game. Felton runs their team and he takes way too many shoots. Every bobcats game i watch their offense stalls multiple times a game. I should have went into more detail but the ball pressure Rondo will put on Felton will totally take Char out of their sets. Yes KG is hurt but he playing well and should take bobcats front line pretty easy.
Char is the best def team right now and Jackson has added a huge spark but the celtics are extremely undervalued for a team that could blow char out. I could be wrong and Char could put on a defensive clinic and win this one at the end but i think the chances are far greater that this is a 10pt lead for the celtics from wire to wire.
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