I agree GSP13, vera did not impress me his last fight. Jardine has been getting better and IMO this is a coin flip situation therefore take the better value in Jardine.
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I agree GSP13, vera did not impress me his last fight. Jardine has been getting better and IMO this is a coin flip situation therefore take the better value in Jardine.
I agree GSP13, vera did not impress me his last fight. Jardine has been getting better and IMO this is a coin flip situation therefore take the better value in Jardine.
JARDINE HAS BEEN GETTING BETTER ??? As evident in his last 12 second KO at the hands of Wandelei Silva ??? Or the Loss before that to Houston Alexander........Keith Jardine has WON exactly 1 fight in the last 2 years over Chuck Liddell who admidetly was not taking his career serious at the time and was documented as out partying nightly the week before the fight..........I wouldn't call 1st round KO's in 2 of his last 3 fights getting better.......and not only in the first round but in the first MINUTE OF THE FIRST ROUND...........
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
I agree GSP13, vera did not impress me his last fight. Jardine has been getting better and IMO this is a coin flip situation therefore take the better value in Jardine.
JARDINE HAS BEEN GETTING BETTER ??? As evident in his last 12 second KO at the hands of Wandelei Silva ??? Or the Loss before that to Houston Alexander........Keith Jardine has WON exactly 1 fight in the last 2 years over Chuck Liddell who admidetly was not taking his career serious at the time and was documented as out partying nightly the week before the fight..........I wouldn't call 1st round KO's in 2 of his last 3 fights getting better.......and not only in the first round but in the first MINUTE OF THE FIRST ROUND...........
Bisping is overrated and being protected by UFC...he lost that fight Hammill plain and simple and only got the W because it was oversees, same reason long time west coast fighters have refused to fight on east coast outside of thier popularity bases.........
Leban is dangerous and just might be crazy enough to KO the count..........after watching the beating Leban took to Terry Martin and then came back and KO'd him late in the fight I have no question Leban will stand up and trade with Bisping.....
For those of you with books that have will go / won't go props the won't go is the play in this fight as I will be surprised if this fight sees round 2 but I also think it will be a much more entertaining fight that many people think......
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Bisping is overrated and being protected by UFC...he lost that fight Hammill plain and simple and only got the W because it was oversees, same reason long time west coast fighters have refused to fight on east coast outside of thier popularity bases.........
Leban is dangerous and just might be crazy enough to KO the count..........after watching the beating Leban took to Terry Martin and then came back and KO'd him late in the fight I have no question Leban will stand up and trade with Bisping.....
For those of you with books that have will go / won't go props the won't go is the play in this fight as I will be surprised if this fight sees round 2 but I also think it will be a much more entertaining fight that many people think......
You are wrong refer, he has WON exactly 2 Fights in the last 2 years!!!! LOL.... So before you start running your mouth, get the facts straight. lol. But i do get your point, he has gotten knocked out hard to Silva and Alexander but did beat liddell and Griffin so you have to respect those wins. I still think this is a coin flip fight though, could go either way. Vera has not impressed me in his last couple fights...
JARDINE HAS BEEN GETTING BETTER ??? As evident in his last 12 second KO at the hands of Wandelei Silva ??? Or the Loss before that to Houston Alexander........Keith Jardine has WON exactly 1 fight in the last 2 years over Chuck Liddell who admidetly was not taking his career serious at the time and was documented as out partying nightly the week before the fight..........I wouldn't call 1st round KO's in 2 of his last 3 fights getting better.......and not only in the first round but in the first MINUTE OF THE FIRST ROUND...........
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You are wrong refer, he has WON exactly 2 Fights in the last 2 years!!!! LOL.... So before you start running your mouth, get the facts straight. lol. But i do get your point, he has gotten knocked out hard to Silva and Alexander but did beat liddell and Griffin so you have to respect those wins. I still think this is a coin flip fight though, could go either way. Vera has not impressed me in his last couple fights...
JARDINE HAS BEEN GETTING BETTER ??? As evident in his last 12 second KO at the hands of Wandelei Silva ??? Or the Loss before that to Houston Alexander........Keith Jardine has WON exactly 1 fight in the last 2 years over Chuck Liddell who admidetly was not taking his career serious at the time and was documented as out partying nightly the week before the fight..........I wouldn't call 1st round KO's in 2 of his last 3 fights getting better.......and not only in the first round but in the first MINUTE OF THE FIRST ROUND...........
Bisping is overrated and being protected by UFC...he lost that fight Hammill plain and simple and only got the W because it was oversees, same reason long time west coast fighters have refused to fight on east coast outside of thier popularity bases.........
Leban is dangerous and just might be crazy enough to KO the count..........after watching the beating Leban took to Terry Martin and then came back and KO'd him late in the fight I have no question Leban will stand up and trade with Bisping.....
For those of you with books that have will go / won't go props the won't go is the play in this fight as I will be surprised if this fight sees round 2 but I also think it will be a much more entertaining fight that many people think......
My thoughts exactly. I want Leben to win.
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Quote Originally Posted by refer:
Bisping is overrated and being protected by UFC...he lost that fight Hammill plain and simple and only got the W because it was oversees, same reason long time west coast fighters have refused to fight on east coast outside of thier popularity bases.........
Leban is dangerous and just might be crazy enough to KO the count..........after watching the beating Leban took to Terry Martin and then came back and KO'd him late in the fight I have no question Leban will stand up and trade with Bisping.....
For those of you with books that have will go / won't go props the won't go is the play in this fight as I will be surprised if this fight sees round 2 but I also think it will be a much more entertaining fight that many people think......
oh man...Bisping is a great overall fighter. Are you guys actually comparing Leban to Hamill? LOL...overrated? This guy not only stood up with probably the next light heavyweight in Rashad Evans, but he dominated he last two fghts he's been in. Please start pounding Leban so the value of Bisping will drop! I'm begging you guys. I'm putting my car on Bisping. See you guys on the 18th
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oh man...Bisping is a great overall fighter. Are you guys actually comparing Leban to Hamill? LOL...overrated? This guy not only stood up with probably the next light heavyweight in Rashad Evans, but he dominated he last two fghts he's been in. Please start pounding Leban so the value of Bisping will drop! I'm begging you guys. I'm putting my car on Bisping. See you guys on the 18th
There is no doubt Bisping should win this fight I am just tired of watching his pampered ass get protected......2/3 of his fights are in the UK because Dana is trying to build the business. Makes great sense for the UFC and business but is pretty self serving for Bisping. I am not comparing Leban to Hammill, I am just saying Bisping lost to Hammill and if that fight was anywhere other than accross the pond he loses that decision.
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There is no doubt Bisping should win this fight I am just tired of watching his pampered ass get protected......2/3 of his fights are in the UK because Dana is trying to build the business. Makes great sense for the UFC and business but is pretty self serving for Bisping. I am not comparing Leban to Hammill, I am just saying Bisping lost to Hammill and if that fight was anywhere other than accross the pond he loses that decision.
Bispings- Decent stand-up. I like him, his stand-up was choppy at first but he has definately improved with each and every fight. I do agree with the fact that Matt Hammil obviously won that fight but that's the past. Not much of a ground game, haven't really seen it in the octagon so he really hasn't been tested in that department.
As for his last two fights.
Charles McCarthy an average sumbission artist and before that fight with Bisping he was out for two years. So he TKO'd a nobody with two year ring rust!!! Whoopidy Dooo.
Jason Day. Has a decent record coupled with some good experience in MMA. Weak conditioning but overall a decent win for Bisping. TKO'd the guy in the first, personally I believe he was fed the guy, but none the less not a bad win for the count.
Chris Leban - been tested and approved in the octagon. Hell, his last two fights were against Terry Martin and Allesio Sakara, which he knocked out, not to mention they were former light heavy wieghts. Leben can take a punishment and still come back to win. Leben also has impressive ground defense, he really knows how to protect himself when on his back, plus he's well rounded in the submission game even though he doesn't like to show it.
I don't see Bisping knocking Leben out, got forbid if it goes to the ground for Bisping. Bispings only chance is to tire out Leben in the 3rd for the TKO or the decision.
Leben needs to test Bispings jaw, but also needs to play it smart and take this fight to the ground. Bispings faster and has better foot work, for every Leben punch Bisping will have 2 to answer. Even though I believe Leben has the better power in these exchanges he needs this fight on the ground where he's most comfortable, unless he can pull off another miracle KO.
I see this fight coming to conditioning and chin checking. Leben needs to finish this fight, if it goes to the judges Bispings going to take the W.
Leben
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Bispings- Decent stand-up. I like him, his stand-up was choppy at first but he has definately improved with each and every fight. I do agree with the fact that Matt Hammil obviously won that fight but that's the past. Not much of a ground game, haven't really seen it in the octagon so he really hasn't been tested in that department.
As for his last two fights.
Charles McCarthy an average sumbission artist and before that fight with Bisping he was out for two years. So he TKO'd a nobody with two year ring rust!!! Whoopidy Dooo.
Jason Day. Has a decent record coupled with some good experience in MMA. Weak conditioning but overall a decent win for Bisping. TKO'd the guy in the first, personally I believe he was fed the guy, but none the less not a bad win for the count.
Chris Leban - been tested and approved in the octagon. Hell, his last two fights were against Terry Martin and Allesio Sakara, which he knocked out, not to mention they were former light heavy wieghts. Leben can take a punishment and still come back to win. Leben also has impressive ground defense, he really knows how to protect himself when on his back, plus he's well rounded in the submission game even though he doesn't like to show it.
I don't see Bisping knocking Leben out, got forbid if it goes to the ground for Bisping. Bispings only chance is to tire out Leben in the 3rd for the TKO or the decision.
Leben needs to test Bispings jaw, but also needs to play it smart and take this fight to the ground. Bispings faster and has better foot work, for every Leben punch Bisping will have 2 to answer. Even though I believe Leben has the better power in these exchanges he needs this fight on the ground where he's most comfortable, unless he can pull off another miracle KO.
I see this fight coming to conditioning and chin checking. Leben needs to finish this fight, if it goes to the judges Bispings going to take the W.
No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
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No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
It's nice to know that Bisping has one loyal fan. Now, maybe you and the Count can go on a cross country tour providing eachother circle jerks, promoting how the other's baby batter tastes with a person sandwich.
GOLF FOXTROT YANKEE!!!
I'm OUT.........
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Quote Originally Posted by youessee:
No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
It's nice to know that Bisping has one loyal fan. Now, maybe you and the Count can go on a cross country tour providing eachother circle jerks, promoting how the other's baby batter tastes with a person sandwich.
It's nice to know that Bisping has one loyal fan. Now, maybe you and the Count can go on a cross country tour providing eachother circle jerks, promoting how the other's baby batter tastes with a person sandwich.
GOLF FOXTROT YANKEE!!!
I'm OUT.........
hahahahahahahah oh man...
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Quote Originally Posted by KYZERSOZE:
It's nice to know that Bisping has one loyal fan. Now, maybe you and the Count can go on a cross country tour providing eachother circle jerks, promoting how the other's baby batter tastes with a person sandwich.
No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
Dont underestimate Lebens knockout power.
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Quote Originally Posted by youessee:
No way is Bisping getting close to being knocked out. That's a joke if you think Bisping is going to get knocked out by the wild swings of a guy that dyes his hair red. Oh man, Bisping by uni or tko in the 2nd round. If it goes to the 3rd round, it's going to be a boring ass fight with Leben on the fence.
Can you guys honestly say that Bisping is being protected by the UFC? And don't use Charles McCarthy as fodder for that argument... that was Bisping's first fight at that weight class, so of course he's going to have a chance to settle into that division. If you still insist on making that argument, then why not say the same about Anderson facing James Irvin at 205? Why didn't the UFC put him in with Rampage/Wandy/Whoever? Cuz they are protecting him? No, cuz that's standard practice with guys moving weight classes. As for Jason Day, he's legit competition and Bisping simply outclassed him.
Either way, Bisping/Leben should silence at least half the people that like to talk about Bisping!
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Can you guys honestly say that Bisping is being protected by the UFC? And don't use Charles McCarthy as fodder for that argument... that was Bisping's first fight at that weight class, so of course he's going to have a chance to settle into that division. If you still insist on making that argument, then why not say the same about Anderson facing James Irvin at 205? Why didn't the UFC put him in with Rampage/Wandy/Whoever? Cuz they are protecting him? No, cuz that's standard practice with guys moving weight classes. As for Jason Day, he's legit competition and Bisping simply outclassed him.
Either way, Bisping/Leben should silence at least half the people that like to talk about Bisping!
GREAT value in Leben...Bisping is at home, so will probably try stadnig with Leben and that is where he will go wrong..i will take Lebens power over Bispings any day of the week.. also doesnt hurt that Leben is nucking futs...also hate Bisping and no way in hell he beat hamill.. Leben knows he cant let this go to the judge so he is going to bring it and he will...piss on over-rated Bisping.. LETS GO LEBEN!!
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GREAT value in Leben...Bisping is at home, so will probably try stadnig with Leben and that is where he will go wrong..i will take Lebens power over Bispings any day of the week.. also doesnt hurt that Leben is nucking futs...also hate Bisping and no way in hell he beat hamill.. Leben knows he cant let this go to the judge so he is going to bring it and he will...piss on over-rated Bisping.. LETS GO LEBEN!!
Money- i agree 100%.. i think thats what is happening.. but they will see.. if Hamill had the same ko power as leben then it would have been done.. im hoping Bisping "gives his fans what they want" and keeps it standing...
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
Dont underestimate Lebens knockout power.
Money- i agree 100%.. i think thats what is happening.. but they will see.. if Hamill had the same ko power as leben then it would have been done.. im hoping Bisping "gives his fans what they want" and keeps it standing...
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