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    Tebow Conspiracy ????

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    Lapoo05
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:21 PM ET #1

    I believe the reason behind Tim Tebow's success is due to the NFL's marketing. Everyone everywhere is talking about Tebow and the NFL is cashing in. Top selling jersey, the networks are fighting over game coverage, and their now putting him on the cover of their inaugural NFL magazine......Which means that most of these games has to be fixed for him to win. Take notice on all of his game winning drives, he's making his plays due to missed defensive reads or blown coverages. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Just look at his TD's his receivers are W I D E open. 
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    I believe the reason behind Tim Tebow's success is due to the NFL's marketing. Everyone everywhere is talking about Tebow and the NFL is cashing in. Top selling jersey, the networks are fighting over game coverage, and their now putting him on the cover of their inaugural NFL magazine......Which means that most of these games has to be fixed for him to win. Take notice on all of his game winning drives, he's making his plays due to missed defensive reads or blown coverages. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Just look at his TD's his receivers are W I D E open. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:31 PM ET #2

    God I have seen maybe the biggest Moron post ever today.

    Ya, that kick from 59 was fixed, the NFL faked out everyone including the fans at the game.

    How do you members get on here?
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    God I have seen maybe the biggest Moron post ever today.

    Ya, that kick from 59 was fixed, the NFL faked out everyone including the fans at the game.

    How do you members get on here?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:31 PM ET #3

    Im not a conspiracy theorist but I see what youre saying generally. However, using your theory, there are a couple misstatements.

    1) no one is fighting over the tv coverage... when denver is on the road or are playing at home against any afc team, the game is on cbs. If they are at home and playing against a nfc team then it is on fox... i mean its a simple formula and has been that way for years... so no one is fighting for tv coverage.

    2) you say that most of the games have to be fixed. Either they are all fixed or they are all not fixed. I find it hard to believe that the league is fixing games for only one team because it is a good story and not for the rest of the league. So again, it is either WWE wrestling or its all real.

    I choose to think that it is all real because if you look at, say, tom brady screaming at his coach on the sideline yesterday... that wasnt fixed, that is passion and i think that is all true for the rest of the league too..
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    Im not a conspiracy theorist but I see what youre saying generally. However, using your theory, there are a couple misstatements.

    1) no one is fighting over the tv coverage... when denver is on the road or are playing at home against any afc team, the game is on cbs. If they are at home and playing against a nfc team then it is on fox... i mean its a simple formula and has been that way for years... so no one is fighting for tv coverage.

    2) you say that most of the games have to be fixed. Either they are all fixed or they are all not fixed. I find it hard to believe that the league is fixing games for only one team because it is a good story and not for the rest of the league. So again, it is either WWE wrestling or its all real.

    I choose to think that it is all real because if you look at, say, tom brady screaming at his coach on the sideline yesterday... that wasnt fixed, that is passion and i think that is all true for the rest of the league too..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:37 PM ET #4

    good observations man!  no shit he is winning for a reason and that reason is not god.  what I can tell you is Tebow will continue to win because there are more haters on Tebow than followers.  The more people going againts him, the likely he will cover the spread.  Now, when those #s going in reverse and more jumping on him, he will fuck you up! 
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    good observations man!  no shit he is winning for a reason and that reason is not god.  what I can tell you is Tebow will continue to win because there are more haters on Tebow than followers.  The more people going againts him, the likely he will cover the spread.  Now, when those #s going in reverse and more jumping on him, he will fuck you up! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:41 PM ET #5

    somewhere a village is missing its idiot.....
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    somewhere a village is missing its idiot.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:51 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by cchsvikes1:

    Im not a conspiracy theorist but I see what youre saying generally. However, using your theory, there are a couple misstatements.

    1) no one is fighting over the tv coverage... when denver is on the road or are playing at home against any afc team, the game is on cbs. If they are at home and playing against a nfc team then it is on fox... i mean its a simple formula and has been that way for years... so no one is fighting for tv coverage.

    2) you say that most of the games have to be fixed. Either they are all fixed or they are all not fixed. I find it hard to believe that the league is fixing games for only one team because it is a good story and not for the rest of the league. So again, it is either WWE wrestling or its all real.

    I choose to think that it is all real because if you look at, say, tom brady screaming at his coach on the sideline yesterday... that wasnt fixed, that is passion and i think that is all true for the rest of the league too..
      NBC wanted to move the time slot for the N.E./Den game from the afternoon to the night game, but CBS said no. also last Sunday they showed the Minn/Den game in the market I live in, which is Va. (mid-atlantic) as oppose to the divisional games they usually show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cchsvikes1:

    Im not a conspiracy theorist but I see what youre saying generally. However, using your theory, there are a couple misstatements.

    1) no one is fighting over the tv coverage... when denver is on the road or are playing at home against any afc team, the game is on cbs. If they are at home and playing against a nfc team then it is on fox... i mean its a simple formula and has been that way for years... so no one is fighting for tv coverage.

    2) you say that most of the games have to be fixed. Either they are all fixed or they are all not fixed. I find it hard to believe that the league is fixing games for only one team because it is a good story and not for the rest of the league. So again, it is either WWE wrestling or its all real.

    I choose to think that it is all real because if you look at, say, tom brady screaming at his coach on the sideline yesterday... that wasnt fixed, that is passion and i think that is all true for the rest of the league too..
      NBC wanted to move the time slot for the N.E./Den game from the afternoon to the night game, but CBS said no. also last Sunday they showed the Minn/Den game in the market I live in, which is Va. (mid-atlantic) as oppose to the divisional games they usually show.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 12:54 PM ET #7

    All I'm saying that this is a theory...and I base this solely on the fact that his TD's are usually blown coverages...look at how open the receivers are.
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    All I'm saying that this is a theory...and I base this solely on the fact that his TD's are usually blown coverages...look at how open the receivers are.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:01 PM ET #8

    the media has created this frenzy with Tim Tebow.  If the media would back off it wouldn't be this way.  Hell, why isn't Alex Smith getting the hype?I don't mind Tebow and beleive he can be a solid QB in the NFL if they would open the play book a little bit but the media has blown this out of proportion.  they are the only ones to blame.
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    the media has created this frenzy with Tim Tebow.  If the media would back off it wouldn't be this way.  Hell, why isn't Alex Smith getting the hype?I don't mind Tebow and beleive he can be a solid QB in the NFL if they would open the play book a little bit but the media has blown this out of proportion.  they are the only ones to blame.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:10 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by dabuckster:

    the media has created this frenzy with Tim Tebow.  If the media would back off it wouldn't be this way.  Hell, why isn't Alex Smith getting the hype?I don't mind Tebow and beleive he can be a solid QB in the NFL if they would open the play book a little bit but the media has blown this out of proportion.  they are the only ones to blame.
    Good Point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabuckster:

    the media has created this frenzy with Tim Tebow.  If the media would back off it wouldn't be this way.  Hell, why isn't Alex Smith getting the hype?I don't mind Tebow and beleive he can be a solid QB in the NFL if they would open the play book a little bit but the media has blown this out of proportion.  they are the only ones to blame.
    Good Point...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:20 PM ET #10

    No... he wins because coaches are to inept to stay aggressive in the 4th quarter. Lovie Smith dropped 2 safeties VERY Deep with a 10 point lead and thats the only reason Tebow went off. If the bears played with the same defensive scheme they have been for the whole game Tebow wouldn't have accomplished anything. Isn't it ironic his stats for the first 3 quarters are absolute garbage in every 1 of his games?
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    No... he wins because coaches are to inept to stay aggressive in the 4th quarter. Lovie Smith dropped 2 safeties VERY Deep with a 10 point lead and thats the only reason Tebow went off. If the bears played with the same defensive scheme they have been for the whole game Tebow wouldn't have accomplished anything. Isn't it ironic his stats for the first 3 quarters are absolute garbage in every 1 of his games?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #11

    Another idiot posting at covers. Yes, the NFL was able to get all the other teams Denver plays and have thier players agree to make Tebow look good. Man you nailed this one

     

    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Another idiot posting at covers. Yes, the NFL was able to get all the other teams Denver plays and have thier players agree to make Tebow look good. Man you nailed this one

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:33 PM ET #12

    Maybe they doing the same for the packers what an idiot
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    Maybe they doing the same for the packers what an idiot
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:40 PM ET #13

    It's definatly the media over anything.

    ESPN First Take needs to be re-named to Tebows Two Hour Take.

    i miss the espn of my childhood.... haha

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    It's definatly the media over anything.

    ESPN First Take needs to be re-named to Tebows Two Hour Take.

    i miss the espn of my childhood.... haha

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:52 PM ET #14

    If this is the case, Marion Barber is definitely IN on the conspiracy.
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    If this is the case, Marion Barber is definitely IN on the conspiracy.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:56 PM ET #15

    God Fixed this game
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    God Fixed this game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:57 PM ET #16

    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
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    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
     
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    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
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    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
     
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    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
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    Tebows an ez market for jesus people to start watching football
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 1:58 PM ET #19

    All the Bears had to do was fall on the ball--the fumble kind of makes you wonder.........hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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    All the Bears had to do was fall on the ball--the fumble kind of makes you wonder.........hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:10 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat36:

    somewhere a village is missing its idiot.....
      This guy is not the village idiot,  he is the state of Virginia idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat36:

    somewhere a village is missing its idiot.....
      This guy is not the village idiot,  he is the state of Virginia idiot.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:15 PM ET #21

    LeagueCapper nailed it.  Tebow is less than impressive during the first three quarters, then when teams go into a prevent defense in the fourth quarter, Tebow takes advantage.  T.J. Yates did the same thing to Cincinnati.  Tampa Bay did this a lot last year.  It's not the QB's, it's defenses going into the prevent way to early in the fourth quarter.
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    LeagueCapper nailed it.  Tebow is less than impressive during the first three quarters, then when teams go into a prevent defense in the fourth quarter, Tebow takes advantage.  T.J. Yates did the same thing to Cincinnati.  Tampa Bay did this a lot last year.  It's not the QB's, it's defenses going into the prevent way to early in the fourth quarter.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:18 PM ET #22

    people can say what they want to believe about tebow, but the thing is tebow is unique and different. kid plays with alot of passion and that my friend goes along way. what i see these defenses like chicago did they go into prevent. that my friend is why chicago lost. i am pulling for the kid and hope he has,continued success in the nfl.
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    people can say what they want to believe about tebow, but the thing is tebow is unique and different. kid plays with alot of passion and that my friend goes along way. what i see these defenses like chicago did they go into prevent. that my friend is why chicago lost. i am pulling for the kid and hope he has,continued success in the nfl.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:21 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by bwest:

    LeagueCapper nailed it.  Tebow is less than impressive during the first three quarters, then when teams go into a prevent defense in the fourth quarter, Tebow takes advantage.  T.J. Yates did the same thing to Cincinnati.  Tampa Bay did this a lot last year.  It's not the QB's, it's defenses going into the prevent way to early in the fourth quarter.


    The Height of Ignorance.

    John Elway and everyone associated with the NFL has said he is a a 4th quarter machine. It's funny u say that because Marino and all the rest played vs a prevent when behind; yet they are Great. Do you people even think before posting this garbage or just type and hit submit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest:

    LeagueCapper nailed it.  Tebow is less than impressive during the first three quarters, then when teams go into a prevent defense in the fourth quarter, Tebow takes advantage.  T.J. Yates did the same thing to Cincinnati.  Tampa Bay did this a lot last year.  It's not the QB's, it's defenses going into the prevent way to early in the fourth quarter.


    The Height of Ignorance.

    John Elway and everyone associated with the NFL has said he is a a 4th quarter machine. It's funny u say that because Marino and all the rest played vs a prevent when behind; yet they are Great. Do you people even think before posting this garbage or just type and hit submit?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:21 PM ET #24

    The only way to fix NFL games is with the refs and reviews...how jimmy grahams td wasnt overturned baffles me yesterday...but saints still got the cover..THE One and Only game that ill ever consider to be a fix was chargers vs steelers 2008..youtube it.. chargers were +5 and troy runs back a meaningless td it gets reviewed for no reason and overturned..pts of board steelers win but dont cover..
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    The only way to fix NFL games is with the refs and reviews...how jimmy grahams td wasnt overturned baffles me yesterday...but saints still got the cover..THE One and Only game that ill ever consider to be a fix was chargers vs steelers 2008..youtube it.. chargers were +5 and troy runs back a meaningless td it gets reviewed for no reason and overturned..pts of board steelers win but dont cover..
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2011 - 2:32 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Win12345:



    The Height of Ignorance.

    John Elway and everyone associated with the NFL has said he is a a 4th quarter machine. It's funny u say that because Marino and all the rest played vs a prevent when behind; yet they are Great. Do you people even think before posting this garbage or just type and hit submit?


    Are you being serious? Marino and "all the rest" you talk about were great for 4 quarters!! not just the 4th! Tebow was 3-16 through 3 and a half quarters UNTIL prevent defense by the bears. C'Mon Man!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win12345:



    The Height of Ignorance.

    John Elway and everyone associated with the NFL has said he is a a 4th quarter machine. It's funny u say that because Marino and all the rest played vs a prevent when behind; yet they are Great. Do you people even think before posting this garbage or just type and hit submit?


    Are you being serious? Marino and "all the rest" you talk about were great for 4 quarters!! not just the 4th! Tebow was 3-16 through 3 and a half quarters UNTIL prevent defense by the bears. C'Mon Man!!
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