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Is there anyone out there who think the Saints win this SB straight up...

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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:28 PM ET #1

Other than true blue Saints fans is there anybody who thinks they have a chance at winning this Super Bowl.  I'm not talking about covering the spread here just plain winning the game SU.
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Other than true blue Saints fans is there anybody who thinks they have a chance at winning this Super Bowl.  I'm not talking about covering the spread here just plain winning the game SU.
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:37 PM ET #2

With the line this short, I don't think the spread matters.  It's either Saints ML or Colts covering the spread.

I do think the Saints have a shot of winning it SU, especially when most of the world along with ESPN are not giving the Saints any chance.  
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With the line this short, I don't think the spread matters.  It's either Saints ML or Colts covering the spread.

I do think the Saints have a shot of winning it SU, especially when most of the world along with ESPN are not giving the Saints any chance.  
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:40 PM ET #3

Only if Manning gets injured.

Only two games Colts lost this year Manning didn't play (much)
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Only if Manning gets injured.

Only two games Colts lost this year Manning didn't play (much)
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:40 PM ET #4

A chance?  The jets beat the chargers as 9 point dogs on the road this year, Giants beat the all mighty patriots in the super bowl, Patriots beat the heavily favored rams as a 12 point dog...  i can go on and on... If the public pounds the colts then the saints will win, vegas doesnt lose!!
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A chance?  The jets beat the chargers as 9 point dogs on the road this year, Giants beat the all mighty patriots in the super bowl, Patriots beat the heavily favored rams as a 12 point dog...  i can go on and on... If the public pounds the colts then the saints will win, vegas doesnt lose!!
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:49 PM ET #5

Why not,that's why Saints won against Vikings in OT
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 5:53 PM ET #6

Pitt fan   absolutely no way,  unless he is kidnapped
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:01 PM ET #7

This is a BIGGER game for the Saints is it for the Colts Franchise! Tuff call, but I am thinking lotta scores and Carney, his prodigy win it! Love the +3.5! I have the Saints +3.5 as of opening! Figure it will move just a bit towards Saints >>??? This game the difference is +3 and the is HUGE for a push,or win, and +2.5 I would have to buy a point and you should be Ok? That what I have came up with! Felt the winner of the NFC Game with the storyline, that easily could have Farve Closed it out with a SB, and would have definitely retired! I believe the youth shows a little and gives Bees, and company an oportunity to win This first SB they have ever been too, and they come with that fanbase! Just Saying! BOL To ALL. PG
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This is a BIGGER game for the Saints is it for the Colts Franchise! Tuff call, but I am thinking lotta scores and Carney, his prodigy win it! Love the +3.5! I have the Saints +3.5 as of opening! Figure it will move just a bit towards Saints >>??? This game the difference is +3 and the is HUGE for a push,or win, and +2.5 I would have to buy a point and you should be Ok? That what I have came up with! Felt the winner of the NFC Game with the storyline, that easily could have Farve Closed it out with a SB, and would have definitely retired! I believe the youth shows a little and gives Bees, and company an oportunity to win This first SB they have ever been too, and they come with that fanbase! Just Saying! BOL To ALL. PG
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:07 PM ET #8

Ponder this.  Minny had what, 6 TO's?  Plus a bad penalty (12 men on the field to take them out of field goal position)  And it took over-time for the Saints, at HOME to beat the Vikes?  Really?  Minny should have beaten NO by AT LEAST 2 TD's.  Not a Minny fan at all, but NO did not win this game, Minny gave it to them.  There is absolutely no way NO wins this game, and they won't even cover the spread.  Indy wins this one by a TD, minimum.  My biggest and best pick of the year  (besides the minny/cowboy game).  BOL 
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Ponder this.  Minny had what, 6 TO's?  Plus a bad penalty (12 men on the field to take them out of field goal position)  And it took over-time for the Saints, at HOME to beat the Vikes?  Really?  Minny should have beaten NO by AT LEAST 2 TD's.  Not a Minny fan at all, but NO did not win this game, Minny gave it to them.  There is absolutely no way NO wins this game, and they won't even cover the spread.  Indy wins this one by a TD, minimum.  My biggest and best pick of the year  (besides the minny/cowboy game).  BOL 
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:16 PM ET #9

I do.
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:28 PM ET #10

Quote Originally Posted by richardtonsj:

With the line this short, I don't think the spread matters.  It's either Saints ML or Colts covering the spread.

I do think the Saints have a shot of winning it SU, especially when most of the world along with ESPN are not giving the Saints any chance.  


Someone had to make this idiotic post.  And you are certainly not alone, thus the ML/spread mismatch creating great opportunities to bet just opposite of your way of thinking.

IMO it's either Colts ML or Saints + points.  Taking +190 or whatever when you can get 5.5/6 is just stupid.
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Quote Originally Posted by richardtonsj:

With the line this short, I don't think the spread matters.  It's either Saints ML or Colts covering the spread.

I do think the Saints have a shot of winning it SU, especially when most of the world along with ESPN are not giving the Saints any chance.  


Someone had to make this idiotic post.  And you are certainly not alone, thus the ML/spread mismatch creating great opportunities to bet just opposite of your way of thinking.

IMO it's either Colts ML or Saints + points.  Taking +190 or whatever when you can get 5.5/6 is just stupid.
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:42 PM ET #11

Unless Manning has a commercial to do.................
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:44 PM ET #12

Saints can win this game no doubt about it.....I would take the Saints + the pts any day. I expect this game to be really close won by 4pts or less.
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Saints can win this game no doubt about it.....I would take the Saints + the pts any day. I expect this game to be really close won by 4pts or less.
 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:47 PM ET #13

Quote Originally Posted by APPLEST:

A chance?  The jets beat the chargers as 9 point dogs on the road this year, Giants beat the all mighty patriots in the super bowl, Patriots beat the heavily favored rams as a 12 point dog...  i can go on and on... If the public pounds the colts then the saints will win, vegas doesnt lose!!

They lost on that super bowl brother.

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Quote Originally Posted by APPLEST:

A chance?  The jets beat the chargers as 9 point dogs on the road this year, Giants beat the all mighty patriots in the super bowl, Patriots beat the heavily favored rams as a 12 point dog...  i can go on and on... If the public pounds the colts then the saints will win, vegas doesnt lose!!

They lost on that super bowl brother.

 
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:48 PM ET #14

Saints offense is nothing like the Colts have faced all year.
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Posted: Jan. 26, 2010 - 6:49 PM ET #15

Pats lost to the Giants
Pats beat the Rams
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Pats beat the Rams
 
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I'm looking to possibly make a huge bet on the Saints to win the Super Bowl.  I think their was a lot of pressure for this team to get to the Super Bowl to finally put New Orleans on the map, now that they've atleast won the NFC I expect to play a little less tight.  After watching the Cardinals and Vikings games I believe they played very tight.

Don't forget this team is full of players that have all been underdogs personally. Read this article from an espn article before the Cowboys game this season.

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Resilience

The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

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I'm looking to possibly make a huge bet on the Saints to win the Super Bowl.  I think their was a lot of pressure for this team to get to the Super Bowl to finally put New Orleans on the map, now that they've atleast won the NFC I expect to play a little less tight.  After watching the Cardinals and Vikings games I believe they played very tight.

Don't forget this team is full of players that have all been underdogs personally. Read this article from an espn article before the Cowboys game this season.

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The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

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I like  saints  on the  Money Line
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Whoops try that again.

Resilience

The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

Running back Mike Bell was out of football. So was cornerback Mike McKenzie, who watched the games from the stands with a mouthful of food before getting the call a few weeks ago. Darren Sharper arrived unwanted and has resurrected his career. Running back Pierre Thomas wasn't drafted. Star wide receiver Marques Colston wasn't drafted until the seventh round of the 2006 draft, and his college football program, Hofstra, just folded.

It goes on and on. This is a team of underdogs. "It's a bunch of guys that feel like they have something to prove," McKenzie says. "We have a lot of late draft picks and free agents that are now starting. It is a team full of guys who are probably viewed as overachievers."

It's perfect, isn't it? The expansion team whose first roster was created from players unwanted by other teams has finally found success with a similar group. The past of the team is well-documented. Archie Manning getting sacked. The Aints. The paper bags over the heads. No playoff games until 1987. No playoff wins until 2000. The Saints trudged along, some good years and mostly bad ones, until Rita took control and the team's football people hired Sean Payton, who had also had a rocky past as offensive coordinator for the New York Giants. The team's rise from the weight of the past mirrored a similar rise of the city.

The Saints, always popular, have transcended, now lumped in with New Orleans' institutions -- Mardi Gras, Louis Armstrong and red beans on Monday. They're woven into the fabric of the town … because they stayed. Private girls schools now let the students wear Saints jerseys to class on special days. A friend of mine, who lives in Uptown and grew up going to games, says the feeling about the team has changed. He's an oil-and-gas man, a Republican, not prone to fits of hippieness. "The last four years have been very special in the city's attachment to the Saints," he told me. "I am not one to do a lot of reflecting back on Katrina, but there is clearly a line of demarcation there."

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Whoops try that again.

Resilience

The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

Running back Mike Bell was out of football. So was cornerback Mike McKenzie, who watched the games from the stands with a mouthful of food before getting the call a few weeks ago. Darren Sharper arrived unwanted and has resurrected his career. Running back Pierre Thomas wasn't drafted. Star wide receiver Marques Colston wasn't drafted until the seventh round of the 2006 draft, and his college football program, Hofstra, just folded.

It goes on and on. This is a team of underdogs. "It's a bunch of guys that feel like they have something to prove," McKenzie says. "We have a lot of late draft picks and free agents that are now starting. It is a team full of guys who are probably viewed as overachievers."

It's perfect, isn't it? The expansion team whose first roster was created from players unwanted by other teams has finally found success with a similar group. The past of the team is well-documented. Archie Manning getting sacked. The Aints. The paper bags over the heads. No playoff games until 1987. No playoff wins until 2000. The Saints trudged along, some good years and mostly bad ones, until Rita took control and the team's football people hired Sean Payton, who had also had a rocky past as offensive coordinator for the New York Giants. The team's rise from the weight of the past mirrored a similar rise of the city.

The Saints, always popular, have transcended, now lumped in with New Orleans' institutions -- Mardi Gras, Louis Armstrong and red beans on Monday. They're woven into the fabric of the town … because they stayed. Private girls schools now let the students wear Saints jerseys to class on special days. A friend of mine, who lives in Uptown and grew up going to games, says the feeling about the team has changed. He's an oil-and-gas man, a Republican, not prone to fits of hippieness. "The last four years have been very special in the city's attachment to the Saints," he told me. "I am not one to do a lot of reflecting back on Katrina, but there is clearly a line of demarcation there."

 
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Its funny when i look back at the 07 game with the Pats and Giants in that game i actually thought the Giants had a chance even when the Pats were 16-0 going in.  But no matter how i look at this game matching offenses and defenses i just could not put a plug nickle on the Saints.  Not saying this game will be a blow out but Peyton will not let his Colts lose this one he is just to dam good.  He can play it either way knock down drag out, which is definetly not the Saints style and you know he would love to get in a shoot out which is the Saints style which i know Peyton would love and will not lose at.

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Its funny when i look back at the 07 game with the Pats and Giants in that game i actually thought the Giants had a chance even when the Pats were 16-0 going in.  But no matter how i look at this game matching offenses and defenses i just could not put a plug nickle on the Saints.  Not saying this game will be a blow out but Peyton will not let his Colts lose this one he is just to dam good.  He can play it either way knock down drag out, which is definetly not the Saints style and you know he would love to get in a shoot out which is the Saints style which i know Peyton would love and will not lose at.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by James_Dean:

Whoops try that again.

Resilience

The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

Running back Mike Bell was out of football. So was cornerback Mike McKenzie, who watched the games from the stands with a mouthful of food before getting the call a few weeks ago. Darren Sharper arrived unwanted and has resurrected his career. Running back Pierre Thomas wasn't drafted. Star wide receiver Marques Colston wasn't drafted until the seventh round of the 2006 draft, and his college football program, Hofstra, just folded.

It goes on and on. This is a team of underdogs. "It's a bunch of guys that feel like they have something to prove," McKenzie says. "We have a lot of late draft picks and free agents that are now starting. It is a team full of guys who are probably viewed as overachievers."

It's perfect, isn't it? The expansion team whose first roster was created from players unwanted by other teams has finally found success with a similar group. The past of the team is well-documented. Archie Manning getting sacked. The Aints. The paper bags over the heads. No playoff games until 1987. No playoff wins until 2000. The Saints trudged along, some good years and mostly bad ones, until Rita took control and the team's football people hired Sean Payton, who had also had a rocky past as offensive coordinator for the New York Giants. The team's rise from the weight of the past mirrored a similar rise of the city.

The Saints, always popular, have transcended, now lumped in with New Orleans' institutions -- Mardi Gras, Louis Armstrong and red beans on Monday. They're woven into the fabric of the town … because they stayed. Private girls schools now let the students wear Saints jerseys to class on special days. A friend of mine, who lives in Uptown and grew up going to games, says the feeling about the team has changed. He's an oil-and-gas man, a Republican, not prone to fits of hippieness. "The last four years have been very special in the city's attachment to the Saints," he told me. "I am not one to do a lot of reflecting back on Katrina, but there is clearly a line of demarcation there."

Great write up i just can't see them beating this Colts team.  They both have good offenses and defenses but as good as Brees is as a QB Manning is the best and knows how to win these games.

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Whoops try that again.

Resilience

The soul of the city is coming off the practice field and headed toward the showers. They are a motley group, undrafted guys and late-round fliers, players cast off from other teams. Brees landed in town after an injury convinced the Chargers that his best days were behind him. "When we came here," he has said, "I was in the process of rebuilding, as well."

Running back Mike Bell was out of football. So was cornerback Mike McKenzie, who watched the games from the stands with a mouthful of food before getting the call a few weeks ago. Darren Sharper arrived unwanted and has resurrected his career. Running back Pierre Thomas wasn't drafted. Star wide receiver Marques Colston wasn't drafted until the seventh round of the 2006 draft, and his college football program, Hofstra, just folded.

It goes on and on. This is a team of underdogs. "It's a bunch of guys that feel like they have something to prove," McKenzie says. "We have a lot of late draft picks and free agents that are now starting. It is a team full of guys who are probably viewed as overachievers."

It's perfect, isn't it? The expansion team whose first roster was created from players unwanted by other teams has finally found success with a similar group. The past of the team is well-documented. Archie Manning getting sacked. The Aints. The paper bags over the heads. No playoff games until 1987. No playoff wins until 2000. The Saints trudged along, some good years and mostly bad ones, until Rita took control and the team's football people hired Sean Payton, who had also had a rocky past as offensive coordinator for the New York Giants. The team's rise from the weight of the past mirrored a similar rise of the city.

The Saints, always popular, have transcended, now lumped in with New Orleans' institutions -- Mardi Gras, Louis Armstrong and red beans on Monday. They're woven into the fabric of the town … because they stayed. Private girls schools now let the students wear Saints jerseys to class on special days. A friend of mine, who lives in Uptown and grew up going to games, says the feeling about the team has changed. He's an oil-and-gas man, a Republican, not prone to fits of hippieness. "The last four years have been very special in the city's attachment to the Saints," he told me. "I am not one to do a lot of reflecting back on Katrina, but there is clearly a line of demarcation there."

Great write up i just can't see them beating this Colts team.  They both have good offenses and defenses but as good as Brees is as a QB Manning is the best and knows how to win these games.

 
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Pitt fan   absolutely no way,  unless he is kidnapped

Just like Ace Ventura pet detective when they tried to kidnap
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Pitt fan   absolutely no way,  unless he is kidnapped

Just like Ace Ventura pet detective when they tried to kidnap
Marino to keep the Dolphins from winning.


 
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Any team that makes it to the Super Bowl can win the game
remember the Rams vs the Pats. .14 point underdog 

They won.

They Giants won it all vs an undefeated team
The Bucs actually won it all
The Ravens won it all with no quarterback.
The Saints can win it all. 

There is no can't in the super bowl
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Any team that makes it to the Super Bowl can win the game
remember the Rams vs the Pats. .14 point underdog 

They won.

They Giants won it all vs an undefeated team
The Bucs actually won it all
The Ravens won it all with no quarterback.
The Saints can win it all. 

There is no can't in the super bowl
 
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On any given Sunday!

Absolutely the Saints can win. 

Don't forget about Archie Manning.

 He played for the Saints.

Now he has to chose between his own son and his beloved New Orleans saints. 
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On any given Sunday!

Absolutely the Saints can win. 

Don't forget about Archie Manning.

 He played for the Saints.

Now he has to chose between his own son and his beloved New Orleans saints. 
 
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Does not matter who is the better team, its only one game, any thing can happen and will with the Saints winning  45-21
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Quote Originally Posted by BigZman:

On any given Sunday!

Absolutely the Saints can win. 

Don't forget about Archie Manning.

 He played for the Saints.

Now he has to chose between his own son and his beloved New Orleans saints. 

He already chose. Hes routing for the Colts.
its a no brainer. Manning is a blood relative

The Saints are extended family
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On any given Sunday!

Absolutely the Saints can win. 

Don't forget about Archie Manning.

 He played for the Saints.

Now he has to chose between his own son and his beloved New Orleans saints. 

He already chose. Hes routing for the Colts.
its a no brainer. Manning is a blood relative

The Saints are extended family
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