Big Ben is better than Tom Brady at this juncture in their career (comparing their first five season), and probably will surpass Tom Brady at some point in the future. The only reason why TOm looks "cool and controlled" during the playoff and fourth quarter combebacks is because he's RARELY get pressured or hit. Thats a credit to the OL and not Brady. Big Ben get pressured pretty much on every play and he does crazy shit that even Tom cant pull off. Brady is massively overrated while Big Ben pulls magic tricks out of his ass and gets no credit.
Brady as you might recall hardly "earn" his first Supberbowl. Tuck-rule bullshit, didn't even play against Pittsburgh the next week, and threw for barely 150 yards against the Ram. Hardly the stuff of "elite quarterback." Big Ben struggled in his first Superbowl but he made all the right plays at the right time (screw passer ratings). What people forget was that Pittsburgh barely made it to the playoff that year. And without Big Ben, they wouldnt have beaten (Bengals (decent back then), Colts (dominating season), and Broncos). Check the stats, he was a stud during that run excluding the Superbowl. Sure his first Superbowl was a clunker, but this playoff run was more impressive than Tom's first series. 1+ for Big Ben.
Pittsburgh wouldn't even been in the playoff this season if it wasn't for Big Ben. Inconsistent running game, a non-existing OL. A number of really close games... without Ben, the Patriots would be in the playoff. The D is pretty good but radically inconsistent this playoff. It was the offense that was the DIFFERENCE between going home early and winning a Superbowl. The D played like crap today, also played crappy against San Diego before the Chargers self-destruct. +1 to Big Ben (Patriots won on D.. colts game).
Big Ben is better than Tom Brady at this juncture in their career (comparing their first five season), and probably will surpass Tom Brady at some point in the future. The only reason why TOm looks "cool and controlled" during the playoff and fourth quarter combebacks is because he's RARELY get pressured or hit. Thats a credit to the OL and not Brady. Big Ben get pressured pretty much on every play and he does crazy shit that even Tom cant pull off. Brady is massively overrated while Big Ben pulls magic tricks out of his ass and gets no credit.
Brady as you might recall hardly "earn" his first Supberbowl. Tuck-rule bullshit, didn't even play against Pittsburgh the next week, and threw for barely 150 yards against the Ram. Hardly the stuff of "elite quarterback." Big Ben struggled in his first Superbowl but he made all the right plays at the right time (screw passer ratings). What people forget was that Pittsburgh barely made it to the playoff that year. And without Big Ben, they wouldnt have beaten (Bengals (decent back then), Colts (dominating season), and Broncos). Check the stats, he was a stud during that run excluding the Superbowl. Sure his first Superbowl was a clunker, but this playoff run was more impressive than Tom's first series. 1+ for Big Ben.
Pittsburgh wouldn't even been in the playoff this season if it wasn't for Big Ben. Inconsistent running game, a non-existing OL. A number of really close games... without Ben, the Patriots would be in the playoff. The D is pretty good but radically inconsistent this playoff. It was the offense that was the DIFFERENCE between going home early and winning a Superbowl. The D played like crap today, also played crappy against San Diego before the Chargers self-destruct. +1 to Big Ben (Patriots won on D.. colts game).
I guess it takes Tom Brady out for the year to say Ben is better than Tom.
So yes, I agree. This year, Ben was better than Tom.
Actually, anyone talking of Tom Brady badly in anyway is a fool (though I am not a fan, trust me). He is a giant among men, no doubt, but compare Big Bens first five years to any QB in history, and Ben is the best with 2 rings (equaled by TB), and 51 total wins (not equaled by TB, or any other QB in the history of the league). Edge? Ben.... that is just fact, not opinion
I guess it takes Tom Brady out for the year to say Ben is better than Tom.
So yes, I agree. This year, Ben was better than Tom.
Actually, anyone talking of Tom Brady badly in anyway is a fool (though I am not a fan, trust me). He is a giant among men, no doubt, but compare Big Bens first five years to any QB in history, and Ben is the best with 2 rings (equaled by TB), and 51 total wins (not equaled by TB, or any other QB in the history of the league). Edge? Ben.... that is just fact, not opinion
now this dumbass was talking "first five years" so once againe...Tom Brady won THREE super bowls in his first five...Roethlisshitter is at two. That means Tom has 1 mor efor you mathematically challenged
now this dumbass was talking "first five years" so once againe...Tom Brady won THREE super bowls in his first five...Roethlisshitter is at two. That means Tom has 1 mor efor you mathematically challenged
Tom Brady's first two Super Bowls: 48/75 for 499 yards, 4 TDs & 1 INT
Roethlisshitter's first two Super Bowls: 30/51 for 389 yards, 1 TD & 3 INT
Brady rocks, no doubt.... but ben is the winningest qb in first five ever, including tom.... but I will not discredit myself by putting down brady, no chance. stats are nothing, look at Marino, would he trade all those stats for one, just one ring, you bet,.... breese? great stats, losing player.....stats are tools for losers.....rings are what separates the pack..... both will be in Canton
Tom Brady's first two Super Bowls: 48/75 for 499 yards, 4 TDs & 1 INT
Roethlisshitter's first two Super Bowls: 30/51 for 389 yards, 1 TD & 3 INT
Brady rocks, no doubt.... but ben is the winningest qb in first five ever, including tom.... but I will not discredit myself by putting down brady, no chance. stats are nothing, look at Marino, would he trade all those stats for one, just one ring, you bet,.... breese? great stats, losing player.....stats are tools for losers.....rings are what separates the pack..... both will be in Canton
Brady rocks, no doubt.... but ben is the winningest qb in first five ever, including tom.... but I will not discredit myself by putting down brady, no chance. stats are nothing, look at Marino, would he trade all those stats for one, just one ring, you bet,.... breese? great stats, losing player.....stats are tools for losers.....rings are what separates the pack..... both will be in Canton
you're embarassing yourself
First five years, Brady had THREE super bowl titles, Big Ben has TWO, by definition, Brady is the most successful
Brady rocks, no doubt.... but ben is the winningest qb in first five ever, including tom.... but I will not discredit myself by putting down brady, no chance. stats are nothing, look at Marino, would he trade all those stats for one, just one ring, you bet,.... breese? great stats, losing player.....stats are tools for losers.....rings are what separates the pack..... both will be in Canton
you're embarassing yourself
First five years, Brady had THREE super bowl titles, Big Ben has TWO, by definition, Brady is the most successful
The Patriots' success in the PLAYOFF (not just the Superbowl) is mostly due to their Defense. Last I check, Tom doesn't play defense. I am pretty sure he wasnt the one who stopped Peyton Manning on D, nor was he a contributor on the 2007/8 defense that contained the Charger/Giants that kept the "great" offense in the game two years ago. Without that Defense, Patriots wouldn't even make it to the Superbowl four times. It also doesn't hurt to have the game most clutch kicker, probably the best playoff coach, and an OL that keeps your jersey whistle clean.What happens when Tom Brady get pressured? ... thats right: shit. INT during the final possession against Indy; shitty performance against the Charger, and the biggest chokejob against the Giants.
Big Ben had to will his way to the two championships. Check the playoff logs, the Steelers D stinks during those runs. How many crazy, acrobatic, pressure-situation, hard hits to the turf, back-peddle throw has Ben make? A ton.
The Patriots' success in the PLAYOFF (not just the Superbowl) is mostly due to their Defense. Last I check, Tom doesn't play defense. I am pretty sure he wasnt the one who stopped Peyton Manning on D, nor was he a contributor on the 2007/8 defense that contained the Charger/Giants that kept the "great" offense in the game two years ago. Without that Defense, Patriots wouldn't even make it to the Superbowl four times. It also doesn't hurt to have the game most clutch kicker, probably the best playoff coach, and an OL that keeps your jersey whistle clean.What happens when Tom Brady get pressured? ... thats right: shit. INT during the final possession against Indy; shitty performance against the Charger, and the biggest chokejob against the Giants.
Big Ben had to will his way to the two championships. Check the playoff logs, the Steelers D stinks during those runs. How many crazy, acrobatic, pressure-situation, hard hits to the turf, back-peddle throw has Ben make? A ton.
First five years, Brady had THREE super bowl titles, Big Ben has TWO, by definition, Brady is the most successful
You got me on the 3...kudos, and honestly....who gives a sh!t who is more sucessful thus far, they both have more to come, edge to ben b/c brady has had a major injury... but they both are "ballers" and top 2%ers so who gives a sh!t...get a life and something meaningful to pursue as opposed to attempting to live vicariously through the guy you obviously have a man crush on lol
First five years, Brady had THREE super bowl titles, Big Ben has TWO, by definition, Brady is the most successful
You got me on the 3...kudos, and honestly....who gives a sh!t who is more sucessful thus far, they both have more to come, edge to ben b/c brady has had a major injury... but they both are "ballers" and top 2%ers so who gives a sh!t...get a life and something meaningful to pursue as opposed to attempting to live vicariously through the guy you obviously have a man crush on lol
The Patriots' success in the PLAYOFF (not just the Superbowl) is mostly due to their Defense. Last I check, Tom doesn't play defense. I am pretty sure he wasnt the one who stopped Peyton Manning on D, nor was he a contributor on the 2007/8 defense that contained the Charger/Giants that kept the "great" offense in the game two years ago. Without that Defense, Patriots wouldn't even make it to the Superbowl four times. It also doesn't hurt to have the game most clutch kicker, probably the best playoff coach, and an OL that keeps your jersey whistle clean.What happens when Tom Brady get pressured? ... thats right: shit. INT during the final possession against Indy; shitty performance against the Charger, and the biggest chokejob against the Giants.
Big Ben had to will his way to the two championships. Check the playoff logs, the Steelers D stinks during those runs. How many crazy, acrobatic, pressure-situation, hard hits to the turf, back-peddle throw has Ben make? A ton.
lmao, so the Steelers' D is awful and Ben has carried this team on his own? Are we watching the same team?
The Patriots' success in the PLAYOFF (not just the Superbowl) is mostly due to their Defense. Last I check, Tom doesn't play defense. I am pretty sure he wasnt the one who stopped Peyton Manning on D, nor was he a contributor on the 2007/8 defense that contained the Charger/Giants that kept the "great" offense in the game two years ago. Without that Defense, Patriots wouldn't even make it to the Superbowl four times. It also doesn't hurt to have the game most clutch kicker, probably the best playoff coach, and an OL that keeps your jersey whistle clean.What happens when Tom Brady get pressured? ... thats right: shit. INT during the final possession against Indy; shitty performance against the Charger, and the biggest chokejob against the Giants.
Big Ben had to will his way to the two championships. Check the playoff logs, the Steelers D stinks during those runs. How many crazy, acrobatic, pressure-situation, hard hits to the turf, back-peddle throw has Ben make? A ton.
lmao, so the Steelers' D is awful and Ben has carried this team on his own? Are we watching the same team?
You got me on the 3...kudos, and honestly....who gives a sh!t who is more sucessful thus far, they both have more to come, edge to ben b/c brady has had a major injury... but they both are "ballers" and top 2%ers so who gives a sh!t...get a life and something meaningful to pursue as opposed to attempting to live vicariously through the guy you obviously have a man crush on lol
You got me on the 3...kudos, and honestly....who gives a sh!t who is more sucessful thus far, they both have more to come, edge to ben b/c brady has had a major injury... but they both are "ballers" and top 2%ers so who gives a sh!t...get a life and something meaningful to pursue as opposed to attempting to live vicariously through the guy you obviously have a man crush on lol
I think revengeissweet is right on here. Brady has orchastrated many fourth quarter two minute drills to carry his team to victory, including the super bowl against the rams and kurt warner. Big Ben did make some great plays last night, particularly whne he kept a couple plays alive and then was able to get his eyes refocused and find a receiver open downfield, especially the one late in the fourth quarter to santonio. Generally, Big Ben holds on to the ball way too long and takes too many sacks. The Cardinals defense had greatly improved as the playoffs went on but by no means were they studs. If your team is down by four with 2:30 to go in the fourth quarter, who would you want as your QB, Brady or Big Ben? I will take Brady any day of the week.
I think revengeissweet is right on here. Brady has orchastrated many fourth quarter two minute drills to carry his team to victory, including the super bowl against the rams and kurt warner. Big Ben did make some great plays last night, particularly whne he kept a couple plays alive and then was able to get his eyes refocused and find a receiver open downfield, especially the one late in the fourth quarter to santonio. Generally, Big Ben holds on to the ball way too long and takes too many sacks. The Cardinals defense had greatly improved as the playoffs went on but by no means were they studs. If your team is down by four with 2:30 to go in the fourth quarter, who would you want as your QB, Brady or Big Ben? I will take Brady any day of the week.
I think revengeissweet is right on here. Brady has orchastrated many fourth quarter two minute drills to carry his team to victory, including the super bowl against the rams and kurt warner. Big Ben did make some great plays last night, particularly whne he kept a couple plays alive and then was able to get his eyes refocused and find a receiver open downfield, especially the one late in the fourth quarter to santonio. Generally, Big Ben holds on to the ball way too long and takes too many sacks. The Cardinals defense had greatly improved as the playoffs went on but by no means were they studs. If your team is down by four with 2:30 to go in the fourth quarter, who would you want as your QB, Brady or Big Ben? I will take Brady any day of the week.
Brady not only drove them with 1:21 left to beat the Rams but he did it again two years later, driving the Patriots with 1:08 left to win the SB again
and jmello, i'm glad someone else with common sense has come in to this thread, these guys are looking at cold hard facts and stating they're not true! Stating that Big Ben's 2 SB rings in his first 5 years is more successful than Brady's three in his first five years is like saying "yes, i know my DNA is the only DNA on the gun used to kill that person but I swear.....it's not my DNA!"
you can't argue facts, fact says Brady is by far the most successful QB
I think revengeissweet is right on here. Brady has orchastrated many fourth quarter two minute drills to carry his team to victory, including the super bowl against the rams and kurt warner. Big Ben did make some great plays last night, particularly whne he kept a couple plays alive and then was able to get his eyes refocused and find a receiver open downfield, especially the one late in the fourth quarter to santonio. Generally, Big Ben holds on to the ball way too long and takes too many sacks. The Cardinals defense had greatly improved as the playoffs went on but by no means were they studs. If your team is down by four with 2:30 to go in the fourth quarter, who would you want as your QB, Brady or Big Ben? I will take Brady any day of the week.
Brady not only drove them with 1:21 left to beat the Rams but he did it again two years later, driving the Patriots with 1:08 left to win the SB again
and jmello, i'm glad someone else with common sense has come in to this thread, these guys are looking at cold hard facts and stating they're not true! Stating that Big Ben's 2 SB rings in his first 5 years is more successful than Brady's three in his first five years is like saying "yes, i know my DNA is the only DNA on the gun used to kill that person but I swear.....it's not my DNA!"
you can't argue facts, fact says Brady is by far the most successful QB
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