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Boise State at Toledo (09/16/2011)

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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 9:11 AM ET #51

Poor pass defense?? If that's the case, what do you think Moore is gonna do to them?? Not to mention Boise's defense is one of the best in the country.. Boise gets up big, makes Toledo throw the ball, letting them bring a pass rush, which leads to turnovers.. My opinion on how this plays out..
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Poor pass defense?? If that's the case, what do you think Moore is gonna do to them?? Not to mention Boise's defense is one of the best in the country.. Boise gets up big, makes Toledo throw the ball, letting them bring a pass rush, which leads to turnovers.. My opinion on how this plays out..
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 9:22 AM ET #52

I made money last week with the points and Toledo in the Shoe.......but that was an Ohio St team that is a plodding, power running, average at best throwing kind of team.  Toledo had enough in the passing game to put up some points and is probably the second best team in the state.  OSU wasn't going to put up 40 points early in the season against a pretty decent Toledo squad.  So I took those 19 points. 

Boise is a whole horse of another color though.  Probably the best team West of the Mississippi......and yes, I believe they can be Oklahoma on a neutral field!!  They are playing for a National Title shot this year now without a doubt!!!!  There isn't anyone on that schedule that should beat them.  But, they have to win big when on TV and they usually do.  Boise State's D is the most under rated D in the country!!!  They will put up over 45 against that Toledo D and the Rockets will have trouble getting to 20.  I'll take the Broncos like a good trend bettor would. 
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I made money last week with the points and Toledo in the Shoe.......but that was an Ohio St team that is a plodding, power running, average at best throwing kind of team.  Toledo had enough in the passing game to put up some points and is probably the second best team in the state.  OSU wasn't going to put up 40 points early in the season against a pretty decent Toledo squad.  So I took those 19 points. 

Boise is a whole horse of another color though.  Probably the best team West of the Mississippi......and yes, I believe they can be Oklahoma on a neutral field!!  They are playing for a National Title shot this year now without a doubt!!!!  There isn't anyone on that schedule that should beat them.  But, they have to win big when on TV and they usually do.  Boise State's D is the most under rated D in the country!!!  They will put up over 45 against that Toledo D and the Rockets will have trouble getting to 20.  I'll take the Broncos like a good trend bettor would. 
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 9:32 AM ET #53

I like Boise to cover -19.  Friday night game and people can watch them so they need to impress
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I like Boise to cover -19.  Friday night game and people can watch them so they need to impress
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 10:23 AM ET #54

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Quote Originally Posted by shark_apreza:


WOW! Get insulting much? i'll be happy to see u lose ur money this week & for the rest of the season like im sure you have been for the whole time you;ve been betting. looking at ur record u aren't very good at this betting thing!!!  GL to the rest of u.



.....what record .........there are just 2 weeks and my record on posted plays is 3-1 up by +23 units so far...last season ended with 65%......again get ur stats right.....no more arguing  with u as u are just a talker ...
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WOW! Get insulting much? i'll be happy to see u lose ur money this week & for the rest of the season like im sure you have been for the whole time you;ve been betting. looking at ur record u aren't very good at this betting thing!!!  GL to the rest of u.



.....what record .........there are just 2 weeks and my record on posted plays is 3-1 up by +23 units so far...last season ended with 65%......again get ur stats right.....no more arguing  with u as u are just a talker ...
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 10:33 AM ET #55

THE ONLY TIME BOISE DIDNT COVER LAST YEAR A SPREAD LARGER...NOTICE LARGER THAN 35+ PTS WAS AGAINST UTAHST AND LTECH .... AND THAT WAS  BECAUSE AT THE 4TH QRT THEY WERE WINNING BY 40+ AND WENT ON VACATION MODE AND BRINGIN THE 3RD STRINGERS TO HAVE SOME SCRIMMEAGE....AND STILL WON BY 30+ .... SO AS IT IS BRONCOS STYLE ....IS ALSO A GREAT BET TO TAKE 1stH AND IM NOT WORRIED OF A  BACK DOOR COVER BECAUSE VOISE ONLY LET GO OF THE PEDAL WHEN THEY ARE UP BY 35+
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THE ONLY TIME BOISE DIDNT COVER LAST YEAR A SPREAD LARGER...NOTICE LARGER THAN 35+ PTS WAS AGAINST UTAHST AND LTECH .... AND THAT WAS  BECAUSE AT THE 4TH QRT THEY WERE WINNING BY 40+ AND WENT ON VACATION MODE AND BRINGIN THE 3RD STRINGERS TO HAVE SOME SCRIMMEAGE....AND STILL WON BY 30+ .... SO AS IT IS BRONCOS STYLE ....IS ALSO A GREAT BET TO TAKE 1stH AND IM NOT WORRIED OF A  BACK DOOR COVER BECAUSE VOISE ONLY LET GO OF THE PEDAL WHEN THEY ARE UP BY 35+
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 11:26 AM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by ToddMental:

You Guys better watch out. Boise is a good team, but not as good as you think. in my book they are overated.

If your giving me that many points with Toledo, I am all over it.

Even if Boise State wins, It will be a close game.

 

 

Oh, Ya: And Ohio State did play like Shit against Toledo, They are better than Boise. Wait until Braxton Miller gets mor playing time...

Ohio st better than Boise? LoL, you sir are a riot!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by ToddMental:

You Guys better watch out. Boise is a good team, but not as good as you think. in my book they are overated.

If your giving me that many points with Toledo, I am all over it.

Even if Boise State wins, It will be a close game.

 

 

Oh, Ya: And Ohio State did play like Shit against Toledo, They are better than Boise. Wait until Braxton Miller gets mor playing time...

Ohio st better than Boise? LoL, you sir are a riot!!!!
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 11:36 AM ET #57

ok ,ok, I get it now . Rockets v/s Broncos on the road. Rockets have a 20 point lead the fans are screaming ,go rockets ,go rockets  Then the kick off and the game starts .

I've got Broncos

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ok ,ok, I get it now . Rockets v/s Broncos on the road. Rockets have a 20 point lead the fans are screaming ,go rockets ,go rockets  Then the kick off and the game starts .

I've got Broncos

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 4:18 PM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

I found one!

Ok if the first half line is not juiced up I might just go Boise St at the half.

With you on this one BD.... after playing ohio st tough in a interstate rivalry game, think toledo might be over valued here..i believe broncos are are much better team than ohio st, with a much much better defense then the buckeyes.  toledo is a tough place to play but boise coming off a bye, with a week to prepare, looking for the broncos to come out firing.. boise st should put up at lease 28 points in the 1half.  hard to see the rockets scoring more than 14 (if that) 1half, let alone keep up with this boise team..

BOISE ST -10.5 1half large play
Boise st -20 game regular size play
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

I found one!

Ok if the first half line is not juiced up I might just go Boise St at the half.

With you on this one BD.... after playing ohio st tough in a interstate rivalry game, think toledo might be over valued here..i believe broncos are are much better team than ohio st, with a much much better defense then the buckeyes.  toledo is a tough place to play but boise coming off a bye, with a week to prepare, looking for the broncos to come out firing.. boise st should put up at lease 28 points in the 1half.  hard to see the rockets scoring more than 14 (if that) 1half, let alone keep up with this boise team..

BOISE ST -10.5 1half large play
Boise st -20 game regular size play
 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:27 PM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by nhoveem:

With you on this one BD.... after playing ohio st tough in a interstate rivalry game, think toledo might be over valued here..i believe broncos are are much better team than ohio st, with a much much better defense then the buckeyes.  toledo is a tough place to play but boise coming off a bye, with a week to prepare, looking for the broncos to come out firing.. boise st should put up at lease 28 points in the 1half.  hard to see the rockets scoring more than 14 (if that) 1half, let alone keep up with this boise team..

BOISE ST -10.5 1half large play
Boise st -20 game regular size play

The concerns I have in this game is if Toledo can run the ball effectively in this game it might open up the passing game. WR Eric Page for Toledo had a pretty decent game against what I thought was a pretty good Ohio St defense.

I also expected more out of Boise St in their running game with Doug Martin but I wasn't impressed on what he put out against Georgia. Maybe the rest will help him against Toledo

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Quote Originally Posted by nhoveem:

With you on this one BD.... after playing ohio st tough in a interstate rivalry game, think toledo might be over valued here..i believe broncos are are much better team than ohio st, with a much much better defense then the buckeyes.  toledo is a tough place to play but boise coming off a bye, with a week to prepare, looking for the broncos to come out firing.. boise st should put up at lease 28 points in the 1half.  hard to see the rockets scoring more than 14 (if that) 1half, let alone keep up with this boise team..

BOISE ST -10.5 1half large play
Boise st -20 game regular size play

The concerns I have in this game is if Toledo can run the ball effectively in this game it might open up the passing game. WR Eric Page for Toledo had a pretty decent game against what I thought was a pretty good Ohio St defense.

I also expected more out of Boise St in their running game with Doug Martin but I wasn't impressed on what he put out against Georgia. Maybe the rest will help him against Toledo

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:34 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by YET2KOMZ:

About time :)) best of luck this season my man!

LOL Thanks bro  Good luck to you as well

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About time :)) best of luck this season my man!

LOL Thanks bro  Good luck to you as well

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:37 PM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

LOL Thanks bro  Good luck to you as well

Bigdaddy - welcome back my friend!  Glad to see you here!  Good luck on the year, to your Warriors, and OUR Horns.  Sharp

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LOL Thanks bro  Good luck to you as well

Bigdaddy - welcome back my friend!  Glad to see you here!  Good luck on the year, to your Warriors, and OUR Horns.  Sharp

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:39 PM ET #62

  Small Play Over 60.5 

If it hits 21, I'll take Small Play Toledo +21  SHARP 

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  Small Play Over 60.5 

If it hits 21, I'll take Small Play Toledo +21  SHARP 

 
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also sorry for some typos i was going quick.  like forum not forim and much not mush.

also bigdaddyhpd  hope u r well. i have seen u in here for many yrs ur a good guy and try to always give good info without being a dick and getting caught up in the BS that can get started in here. lotta respect for u and the locals and regulars. u know who u r.  bol on all ur seasons.

Thank you for those kind words  there are a lot of covers vets and new members on here that come here to do the same which is the sole intention of helping each other out to make some so props should go out to all members that come in here with those intentions and not just me alone so....Thank you  

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also sorry for some typos i was going quick.  like forum not forim and much not mush.

also bigdaddyhpd  hope u r well. i have seen u in here for many yrs ur a good guy and try to always give good info without being a dick and getting caught up in the BS that can get started in here. lotta respect for u and the locals and regulars. u know who u r.  bol on all ur seasons.

Thank you for those kind words  there are a lot of covers vets and new members on here that come here to do the same which is the sole intention of helping each other out to make some so props should go out to all members that come in here with those intentions and not just me alone so....Thank you  

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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:47 PM ET #64

Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

Bigdaddy - welcome back my friend!  Glad to see you here!  Good luck on the year, to your Warriors, and OUR Horns.  Sharp

Aloha my brother  

now that I found a local you know I will need your help as ususal for my picks as your college expertise is amazing

Good luck my friend

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Bigdaddy - welcome back my friend!  Glad to see you here!  Good luck on the year, to your Warriors, and OUR Horns.  Sharp

Aloha my brother  

now that I found a local you know I will need your help as ususal for my picks as your college expertise is amazing

Good luck my friend

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 6:59 PM ET #65

TOLEDO  + 20

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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

The concerns I have in this game is if Toledo can run the ball effectively in this game it might open up the passing game. WR Eric Page for Toledo had a pretty decent game against what I thought was a pretty good Ohio St defense.

I also expected more out of Boise St in their running game with Doug Martin but I wasn't impressed on what he put out against Georgia. Maybe the rest will help him against Toledo

Thought I would add a little insight.  Boise held their starting senior safety, fastest WR and top notch back up lineman from getting on the plane to Georgia when Boise learned of a possible eligibility issue.  This contributed to the change in gameplan especially when Georgia decided to take away the vertical passing game.  Kellen Moore picked the Bulldogs apart with an up tempo no huddle offense complete with quick strike, short passes.  That is the beauty of Boise State as they have the ability to change their gameplan based on what the defense is showing in the 1st quarter.

Not having their starting safety lead to a few long passing TD's by Aaron Murray.  Guess what, right before the Broncos boarded the plane to Toledo their starting safety was ruled eligible to play and is with the team.  Boise is well rested and truly respects Toledo with the performance they put up against OSU.  One other thing.  Toledo hates Ohio State and wanted to beat them in every way.  On the other hand, Toledo is in awe of Boise State and wants to be just like them.  Despite the game at Toledo, I don't believe they will have the killer instinct and the ability to execute their gameplan to perfection coming off the short week.  If Boise is up big by the middle of the 3rd qtr, Coach Pete will empty the benches and stay conservative so a back door cover is always a possibility especially if the line climbs over -21.

Boise large at the half

Boise full game

Might also put small play on the Under  due to well-rested, full strength Boise D and short week for Toledo.

 

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The concerns I have in this game is if Toledo can run the ball effectively in this game it might open up the passing game. WR Eric Page for Toledo had a pretty decent game against what I thought was a pretty good Ohio St defense.

I also expected more out of Boise St in their running game with Doug Martin but I wasn't impressed on what he put out against Georgia. Maybe the rest will help him against Toledo

Thought I would add a little insight.  Boise held their starting senior safety, fastest WR and top notch back up lineman from getting on the plane to Georgia when Boise learned of a possible eligibility issue.  This contributed to the change in gameplan especially when Georgia decided to take away the vertical passing game.  Kellen Moore picked the Bulldogs apart with an up tempo no huddle offense complete with quick strike, short passes.  That is the beauty of Boise State as they have the ability to change their gameplan based on what the defense is showing in the 1st quarter.

Not having their starting safety lead to a few long passing TD's by Aaron Murray.  Guess what, right before the Broncos boarded the plane to Toledo their starting safety was ruled eligible to play and is with the team.  Boise is well rested and truly respects Toledo with the performance they put up against OSU.  One other thing.  Toledo hates Ohio State and wanted to beat them in every way.  On the other hand, Toledo is in awe of Boise State and wants to be just like them.  Despite the game at Toledo, I don't believe they will have the killer instinct and the ability to execute their gameplan to perfection coming off the short week.  If Boise is up big by the middle of the 3rd qtr, Coach Pete will empty the benches and stay conservative so a back door cover is always a possibility especially if the line climbs over -21.

Boise large at the half

Boise full game

Might also put small play on the Under  due to well-rested, full strength Boise D and short week for Toledo.

 

 
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Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 11:28 PM ET #67

@boiseter

thanks for the right up, alot of good points. although i dont think he pulls the primaries in 3rd quarter if they are up, they need huge style points if they are going to get the national title, especially with it being the first year in a new leauge. however looking at your logo if you have on campus insight a nod would be appreciated,  im looking at the boise and the over and stringing them together in a 2 teamer.

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thanks for the right up, alot of good points. although i dont think he pulls the primaries in 3rd quarter if they are up, they need huge style points if they are going to get the national title, especially with it being the first year in a new leauge. however looking at your logo if you have on campus insight a nod would be appreciated,  im looking at the boise and the over and stringing them together in a 2 teamer.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by boiseter:

Thought I would add a little insight.  Boise held their starting senior safety, fastest WR and top notch back up lineman from getting on the plane to Georgia when Boise learned of a possible eligibility issue.  This contributed to the change in gameplan especially when Georgia decided to take away the vertical passing game.  Kellen Moore picked the Bulldogs apart with an up tempo no huddle offense complete with quick strike, short passes.  That is the beauty of Boise State as they have the ability to change their gameplan based on what the defense is showing in the 1st quarter.

Not having their starting safety lead to a few long passing TD's by Aaron Murray.  Guess what, right before the Broncos boarded the plane to Toledo their starting safety was ruled eligible to play and is with the team.  Boise is well rested and truly respects Toledo with the performance they put up against OSU.  One other thing.  Toledo hates Ohio State and wanted to beat them in every way.  On the other hand, Toledo is in awe of Boise State and wants to be just like them.  Despite the game at Toledo, I don't believe they will have the killer instinct and the ability to execute their gameplan to perfection coming off the short week.  If Boise is up big by the middle of the 3rd qtr, Coach Pete will empty the benches and stay conservative so a back door cover is always a possibility especially if the line climbs over -21.

Boise large at the half

Boise full game

Might also put small play on the Under  due to well-rested, full strength Boise D and short week for Toledo.

 

 Thanks for the info..your Broncos has been real nice to me for so many seasons. I always love to play on them in the first half of games...it can bite you in the a$$ sometimes but I love the way they go for the 2 point conversions early in games

Good luck to you and your Broncos

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Thought I would add a little insight.  Boise held their starting senior safety, fastest WR and top notch back up lineman from getting on the plane to Georgia when Boise learned of a possible eligibility issue.  This contributed to the change in gameplan especially when Georgia decided to take away the vertical passing game.  Kellen Moore picked the Bulldogs apart with an up tempo no huddle offense complete with quick strike, short passes.  That is the beauty of Boise State as they have the ability to change their gameplan based on what the defense is showing in the 1st quarter.

Not having their starting safety lead to a few long passing TD's by Aaron Murray.  Guess what, right before the Broncos boarded the plane to Toledo their starting safety was ruled eligible to play and is with the team.  Boise is well rested and truly respects Toledo with the performance they put up against OSU.  One other thing.  Toledo hates Ohio State and wanted to beat them in every way.  On the other hand, Toledo is in awe of Boise State and wants to be just like them.  Despite the game at Toledo, I don't believe they will have the killer instinct and the ability to execute their gameplan to perfection coming off the short week.  If Boise is up big by the middle of the 3rd qtr, Coach Pete will empty the benches and stay conservative so a back door cover is always a possibility especially if the line climbs over -21.

Boise large at the half

Boise full game

Might also put small play on the Under  due to well-rested, full strength Boise D and short week for Toledo.

 

 Thanks for the info..your Broncos has been real nice to me for so many seasons. I always love to play on them in the first half of games...it can bite you in the a$$ sometimes but I love the way they go for the 2 point conversions early in games

Good luck to you and your Broncos

 
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Posted: Sep. 16, 2011 - 1:23 AM ET #69

o/u 60.5? really? im definetely all over the UNDER!

 

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Good to hear bigdaddy,finally found one. I haven't post much because too lazy to turn on my laptop now that I have an iPhone and iPad been using it constantly. Just learn how to post in the forum with it . As oahuboy mention Boise have extra week to prepare, an they need to win impressively week in and week out to climb the ranking.
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Good to hear bigdaddy,finally found one. I haven't post much because too lazy to turn on my laptop now that I have an iPhone and iPad been using it constantly. Just learn how to post in the forum with it . As oahuboy mention Boise have extra week to prepare, an they need to win impressively week in and week out to climb the ranking.
Boise -10.5 at the half
Boise -19 for the game (got this line when first came out)
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Good to hear bigdaddy,finally found one. I haven't post much because too lazy to turn on my laptop now that I have an iPhone and iPad been using it constantly. Just learn how to post in the forum with it . As oahuboy mention Boise have extra week to prepare, an they need to win impressively week in and week out to climb the ranking.
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Good to hear bigdaddy,finally found one. I haven't post much because too lazy to turn on my laptop now that I have an iPhone and iPad been using it constantly. Just learn how to post in the forum with it . As oahuboy mention Boise have extra week to prepare, an they need to win impressively week in and week out to climb the ranking.
Boise -10.5 at the half
Boise -19 for the game (got this line when first came out)
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Good to hear bigdaddy,finally found one. I haven't post much because too lazy to turn on my laptop now that I have an iPhone and iPad been using it constantly. Just learn how to post in the forum with it . As oahuboy mention Boise have extra week to prepare, an they need to win impressively week in and week out to climb the ranking.
Boise -10.5 at the half
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Boise -10.5 at the half
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Didn't read through every post but another angel to the Toledo v. OSU game.  Don't think OSU is that great add in the fact that the game was a trap game with Miami on deck this weekend.  Not taking anything away from Toledo think they are strong small conference team, but come on Boise St. is and has been on another level for some time. Have to like the Broncos here.  They will be prepared there will be no look ahead KMoore should light them up and Martin probably get his first over hundy rushing performance for the season. 21 10 or so at half Boise puts it away in the 3rd. Should cover 3 tds. 

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Didn't read through every post but another angel to the Toledo v. OSU game.  Don't think OSU is that great add in the fact that the game was a trap game with Miami on deck this weekend.  Not taking anything away from Toledo think they are strong small conference team, but come on Boise St. is and has been on another level for some time. Have to like the Broncos here.  They will be prepared there will be no look ahead KMoore should light them up and Martin probably get his first over hundy rushing performance for the season. 21 10 or so at half Boise puts it away in the 3rd. Should cover 3 tds. 

 
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lol tired cannot spell meant angle

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