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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 1:10 AM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

Caffeine has addictive side affects too .... its part of the same family nicotine is....like I said before.... are we making soda pop and coffee illegal?  What about chocolate? Also lets talk about aspartame. Its damn poison and millions are consuming it each day. Unlike cigarettes... most don't realize what they are consuming

People have a choice with what to do ..... people should have the right to make that choice... and be able to live with the consequence of the decision they make. 

If you are going to make cigarettes illegal on your logic .... anything drug related would need to be illegal as well.  So no caffeine or alcohol either

 


Christ why am I arguing with these people 
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

Caffeine has addictive side affects too .... its part of the same family nicotine is....like I said before.... are we making soda pop and coffee illegal?  What about chocolate? Also lets talk about aspartame. Its damn poison and millions are consuming it each day. Unlike cigarettes... most don't realize what they are consuming

People have a choice with what to do ..... people should have the right to make that choice... and be able to live with the consequence of the decision they make. 

If you are going to make cigarettes illegal on your logic .... anything drug related would need to be illegal as well.  So no caffeine or alcohol either

 


Christ why am I arguing with these people 
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 1:43 AM ET #52

Cuz yuse a foo, nigggaa,
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 10:42 AM ET #53

[Quote: Originally Posted by scalabrine]

I'm not the one making the generic counterexamples moron. 

Cigarettes are proven to be highly addictive because of nicotine. There is nothing generic about that you fool.
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You use the same old excuse and generic argument all the time. 

People have been warned and people make their decisions on their pleasures and vices.    Who cares if nicotine is or isn't addictive.  Alot of substances are addictive and people continue to use them for their pleasure regardless of the ill effects.  

Why do I waste my time on you morons.   Go waste away in your fairy land.  . 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by scalabrine]

I'm not the one making the generic counterexamples moron. 

Cigarettes are proven to be highly addictive because of nicotine. There is nothing generic about that you fool.
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You use the same old excuse and generic argument all the time. 

People have been warned and people make their decisions on their pleasures and vices.    Who cares if nicotine is or isn't addictive.  Alot of substances are addictive and people continue to use them for their pleasure regardless of the ill effects.  

Why do I waste my time on you morons.   Go waste away in your fairy land.  . 
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 10:49 AM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

why do I waste my time ....

Your time is worthless anyways.  Just like your excuses.  

I like people like you though.   You guys are one of the reasons I'm seen as a top 5%er or less by the IRS.      
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

why do I waste my time ....

Your time is worthless anyways.  Just like your excuses.  

I like people like you though.   You guys are one of the reasons I'm seen as a top 5%er or less by the IRS.      
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 11:01 AM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


I'm not the one making the generic counterexamples moron. 

Cigarettes are proven to be highly addictive because of nicotine. There is nothing generic about that you fool.
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You use the same old excuse and generic argument all the time. 

People have been warned and people make their decisions on their pleasures and vices.    Who cares if nicotine is or isn't addictive.  Alot of substances are addictive and people continue to use them for their pleasure regardless of the ill effects.  

Why do I waste my time on you morons.   Go waste away in your fairy land.  . 

Ok, on the aggregate teens make good decisions? Young adults make GOOD decisions???? All the time? So they are remanded to a lifetime of addiction because of big tobacco profits? You are a fool.

They've been warned??

Why don't we put arsenic in soda and sell it and say "you've been warned!" (An example that is not ludicrous if you know the toxins in cigarettes!)
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


I'm not the one making the generic counterexamples moron. 

Cigarettes are proven to be highly addictive because of nicotine. There is nothing generic about that you fool.
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You use the same old excuse and generic argument all the time. 

People have been warned and people make their decisions on their pleasures and vices.    Who cares if nicotine is or isn't addictive.  Alot of substances are addictive and people continue to use them for their pleasure regardless of the ill effects.  

Why do I waste my time on you morons.   Go waste away in your fairy land.  . 

Ok, on the aggregate teens make good decisions? Young adults make GOOD decisions???? All the time? So they are remanded to a lifetime of addiction because of big tobacco profits? You are a fool.

They've been warned??

Why don't we put arsenic in soda and sell it and say "you've been warned!" (An example that is not ludicrous if you know the toxins in cigarettes!)
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 12:28 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


Your time is worthless anyways.  Just like your excuses.  

I like people like you though.   You guys are one of the reasons I'm seen as a top 5%er or less by the IRS.      
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Your time is worthless anyways.  Just like your excuses.  

I like people like you though.   You guys are one of the reasons I'm seen as a top 5%er or less by the IRS.      
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 12:38 PM ET #57

^ he posts a lightbulb like it's a good point...
Same guy who creates threads with words "Mamaz got paid" with regard to dead black kids...what a guy
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^ he posts a lightbulb like it's a good point...
Same guy who creates threads with words "Mamaz got paid" with regard to dead black kids...what a guy
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 1:00 PM ET #58

Do you ever sit back and read your arguments Scal? You might be one of the more narrow minded people I have ever met. Take this thread for example. You sit here and blame the government and corporations for these people choosing to smoke so they can't be held responsible for their choices and the rest of us have to pay more.
 You did a good job pointing out the different effects of alcohol(which the government and big corporations sell). So using your logic that teens make bad decisions all the time. The frat boy that got wasted at a party and chose to drive home and runs a whole family off the road. We shouldn't blame him he only did what teenagers do and shouldn't have to accept responsibility.

Also, it wasn't about a dead black kid. It was about a dead black kids ignorant parents, but reading is hard I understand Scal. 
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Do you ever sit back and read your arguments Scal? You might be one of the more narrow minded people I have ever met. Take this thread for example. You sit here and blame the government and corporations for these people choosing to smoke so they can't be held responsible for their choices and the rest of us have to pay more.
 You did a good job pointing out the different effects of alcohol(which the government and big corporations sell). So using your logic that teens make bad decisions all the time. The frat boy that got wasted at a party and chose to drive home and runs a whole family off the road. We shouldn't blame him he only did what teenagers do and shouldn't have to accept responsibility.

Also, it wasn't about a dead black kid. It was about a dead black kids ignorant parents, but reading is hard I understand Scal. 
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 1:36 PM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

^ he posts a lightbulb like it's a good point...
Same guy who creates threads with words "Mamaz got paid" with regard to dead black kids...what a guy

You probably spent most of your life trying to find an excuse and you finally  came up with a blanket generalization to give the weak, yourself included of course, a decent excuse you people can rally behind as to why you people are losers.  

Great job.  I'm proud of you.  
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

^ he posts a lightbulb like it's a good point...
Same guy who creates threads with words "Mamaz got paid" with regard to dead black kids...what a guy

You probably spent most of your life trying to find an excuse and you finally  came up with a blanket generalization to give the weak, yourself included of course, a decent excuse you people can rally behind as to why you people are losers.  

Great job.  I'm proud of you.  
 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 1:45 PM ET #60

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Ok, on the aggregate teens make good decisions? Young adults make GOOD decisions???? All the time? So they are remanded to a lifetime of addiction because of big tobacco profits? You are a fool.

They've been warned??

Why don't we put arsenic in soda and sell it and say "you've been warned!" (An example that is not ludicrous if you know the toxins in cigarettes!)

You are suggesting everyone should be controlled.  Ok gotcha.  

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Ok, on the aggregate teens make good decisions? Young adults make GOOD decisions???? All the time? So they are remanded to a lifetime of addiction because of big tobacco profits? You are a fool.

They've been warned??

Why don't we put arsenic in soda and sell it and say "you've been warned!" (An example that is not ludicrous if you know the toxins in cigarettes!)

You are suggesting everyone should be controlled.  Ok gotcha.  

 
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Posted: Apr. 13, 2013 - 2:06 PM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


You are suggesting everyone should be controlled.  Ok gotcha.  



 Excellent observation.
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You are suggesting everyone should be controlled.  Ok gotcha.  



 Excellent observation.
 
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Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:26 PM ET #62

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Stoves, lighters, fireworks, grills and campfires...all compared to cigarettes...

wow...

You talk about taking a line that even the dimmest bulb would avoid...


First it was about quitting. Now it's about avoiding it altogether because WE ALL know how bad smoking is for you...

And this is a guy who probably drinks on the regular. 

And alcohol is responsible for the following;

Its consumption has been linked to cirrhosis of the liver, epilepsy, poisonings, road traffic accidents, violence, and several types of cancer, including cancers of the colorectum, breast, larynx and liver.

But hey, he's responsible and can down a few here and there, just like the smoker thought they could smoke a few before they got hooked.
But don't make that comparison!!

Oh yeah, and the SG is a Joke so forget about that guy
too...


I didnt compare anything to cigarettes. I ststed that things the burn and/or produce smoke are the 1st "no nos" we learn. So why would you light something and inhale the smoke?

Alcoholism is just as bad or worse than "nicotine addiction". Whats the extra additive in alcohol that makes it so addictive?

COuldnt be the buzz and enjoyment....kinda like nicotine...

"But massa....da big bad goubmnet knew all along an dey did nuthin!!"

The Scalabrine River will soon be filled with the tears of the oppressed and brow beaten......

No way should people take any resonsibility for there actions! Its the american dream to pass the bucks. Strong work Scal.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Stoves, lighters, fireworks, grills and campfires...all compared to cigarettes...

wow...

You talk about taking a line that even the dimmest bulb would avoid...


First it was about quitting. Now it's about avoiding it altogether because WE ALL know how bad smoking is for you...

And this is a guy who probably drinks on the regular. 

And alcohol is responsible for the following;

Its consumption has been linked to cirrhosis of the liver, epilepsy, poisonings, road traffic accidents, violence, and several types of cancer, including cancers of the colorectum, breast, larynx and liver.

But hey, he's responsible and can down a few here and there, just like the smoker thought they could smoke a few before they got hooked.
But don't make that comparison!!

Oh yeah, and the SG is a Joke so forget about that guy
too...


I didnt compare anything to cigarettes. I ststed that things the burn and/or produce smoke are the 1st "no nos" we learn. So why would you light something and inhale the smoke?

Alcoholism is just as bad or worse than "nicotine addiction". Whats the extra additive in alcohol that makes it so addictive?

COuldnt be the buzz and enjoyment....kinda like nicotine...

"But massa....da big bad goubmnet knew all along an dey did nuthin!!"

The Scalabrine River will soon be filled with the tears of the oppressed and brow beaten......

No way should people take any resonsibility for there actions! Its the american dream to pass the bucks. Strong work Scal.
 
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Posted: Apr. 18, 2013 - 9:41 PM ET #63

I cant quit smoking..... =  &

 

Man up p ussies

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I cant quit smoking..... =  &

 

Man up p ussies

 
 
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Posted: Apr. 18, 2013 - 10:01 PM ET #64

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

why do I waste my time ....

Because you get off on it. You feel you are better than all, know more than all and your view is the only view.

Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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why do I waste my time ....

Because you get off on it. You feel you are better than all, know more than all and your view is the only view.

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