of him to being with. Let the cops find him. Its really sad that all of your "FACTS" are falling apart and all of your projections turning out to be wrong.
It must really suck to have no common sense.
I have to speculate because I'll never know what its like. 
Its really sad that all of your "FACTS" are falling apart and all of your projections turning out to be wrong.
It must really suck to have no common sense.
I have to speculate because I'll never know what its like.
Bowl - not saying it's illegal, but obviously it's not the job of a watchman to pursue or stalk someone & then confront them. From what I understand, it's just to alert police & then wait for them.
2 questions - what will you think if it's clearly shown that it's Martins voice crying for help, not Z's?
And would the gf's statement saying what she's already said about their phone conversation (which also contradicts Z's story) change anything for you? Or would you just believe she's lying?
Bowl - not saying it's illegal, but obviously it's not the job of a watchman to pursue or stalk someone & then confront them. From what I understand, it's just to alert police & then wait for them.
2 questions - what will you think if it's clearly shown that it's Martins voice crying for help, not Z's?
And would the gf's statement saying what she's already said about their phone conversation (which also contradicts Z's story) change anything for you? Or would you just believe she's lying?
A. Just because its not his job does that mean you charge him with somthing?
B. I could give a fuck about an expert that doesn't have voice samples to do a proper eval. I care about Trayvons father saying it wasn't his sons voice AND I care about the 13 year old boy saying he saw the one on the bottom screaming. Based on the police report of Zimmerman bleeding from his nose and the back of his head...HE WAS ON THE BOTTOM.
C. The girlfiend said she heard Trayvon ask Z "Why are you following me" and then she heard a man say "What are you doing around here?"
What is so incriminating about that?
A. Just because its not his job does that mean you charge him with somthing?
B. I could give a fuck about an expert that doesn't have voice samples to do a proper eval. I care about Trayvons father saying it wasn't his sons voice AND I care about the 13 year old boy saying he saw the one on the bottom screaming. Based on the police report of Zimmerman bleeding from his nose and the back of his head...HE WAS ON THE BOTTOM.
C. The girlfiend said she heard Trayvon ask Z "Why are you following me" and then she heard a man say "What are you doing around here?"
What is so incriminating about that?
A Meaningless - never said that
B And Martins parents say it was Trayvon. But you don't care what 2 independent voice experts with the latest technology & a reputation to uphold have to say? 
C Her affadavit contradict's Z's account & if believed, shows him to be lying.
A Meaningless - never said that
B And Martins parents say it was Trayvon. But you don't care what 2 independent voice experts with the latest technology & a reputation to uphold have to say?
C Her affadavit contradict's Z's account & if believed, shows him to be lying.
Think about it.The only reason his parents changed their mind is because it paints Trayvon as a fight starter or fight instigator and doesn't fit their 'victim' mentality.
I heard the same thing. Which changes the whole dynamic of him being stupid or not for having the gun on him.
If he was not on duty, then I don't see it as being stupid.
I've also listened to the 911 tape over 10x's ,that they claim he said under his breath "F'kin person.." [he was basically talking to himself] not to the 911 dispacher and not to Tayvon....
I don't hear that ..beyond a reasonable doubt..what I hear I is something I've said before myself many times " F'kin alanColmes"..
We also know that he is bilingual and speaks Spanish often during the day ..he could have accidentally struck himself in the groin area while running ..because he was carrying a phone and said "F'kin cojones"..
Um, no. I asked you how many you filed.
'Medical examiner' is a broad descriptor similar to 'doctor.'
You should read Dr. Di Maio's book. He admits that, while he likely one of the world experts on bullet wounds, he wouldn't be qualified to testify as to the cause of death. It is quite a remarkable read.
And the part I quoted was the distance chapter. It are those kind of specificities that a simple medical examiner would not be qualified to determine.
That is my point. A medical examiner's office doesn't perform wound ballistics. A medical examiner's officer performs an autopsy.
The doctor testified Wednesday during the first-degree murder trial of Cordell Wells, 24, who is charged with Adelowo's murder.
The victim had a total of eight gunshot wounds, the medical examiner testified, but only five bullets were recovered from Adelowo's body. Some of the wounds had corresponding exit wounds, he told the jury and Prosecuting Attorney Scott Ellington.
The wounds were to Adelowo's center back, the left hip, the right buttock, the back of the right thigh, the left side of the abdomen, the right arm, lower left stomach, and left hand.
The back wound caused injuries to the stomach, liver and other organs before coming to rest in the lower back of the chest cavity, the doctor testified. The abdomen wound caused injuries to the small bowel, pancreas, liver, diaphragm, cardiac sac and the heart.
There was no evidence that any of the bullets were fired from close range, the doctor said.
Under cross examination by defense attorney Bill Stanley, Konzelmann explained the trajectory of the wounds, or the direction from which the gun was fired.
Using his co-counsel, Ray Nickle as a model, Stanley had the doctor demonstrate the angle of each shot and suggested that the shooter would have to be kneeling or lying on the ground to fire from the right angles.
In further testimony, Ellington, using his deputy, Curtis Walker Jr. as a model, demonstrated how the shots could have been fired from a normal, standing position if the victim were trying to get away from the shots.
The doctor testified Wednesday during the first-degree murder trial of Cordell Wells, 24, who is charged with Adelowo's murder.
The victim had a total of eight gunshot wounds, the medical examiner testified, but only five bullets were recovered from Adelowo's body. Some of the wounds had corresponding exit wounds, he told the jury and Prosecuting Attorney Scott Ellington.
The wounds were to Adelowo's center back, the left hip, the right buttock, the back of the right thigh, the left side of the abdomen, the right arm, lower left stomach, and left hand.
The back wound caused injuries to the stomach, liver and other organs before coming to rest in the lower back of the chest cavity, the doctor testified. The abdomen wound caused injuries to the small bowel, pancreas, liver, diaphragm, cardiac sac and the heart.
There was no evidence that any of the bullets were fired from close range, the doctor said.
Under cross examination by defense attorney Bill Stanley, Konzelmann explained the trajectory of the wounds, or the direction from which the gun was fired.
Using his co-counsel, Ray Nickle as a model, Stanley had the doctor demonstrate the angle of each shot and suggested that the shooter would have to be kneeling or lying on the ground to fire from the right angles.
In further testimony, Ellington, using his deputy, Curtis Walker Jr. as a model, demonstrated how the shots could have been fired from a normal, standing position if the victim were trying to get away from the shots.
I have no idea what this is trying to show. The article referred to the expert as a medical examiner and a Dr. If a DNA expert testifies at trial, he would likely be referred to as Dr. as well. It hardly means that any doctor would be competent to testify as to such a specific area.
Its clear at this point that you are just arguing to argue. It would be great if you read the book because I think you would get a clear understanding of the distinctions. 
That is my point. A medical examiner's office doesn't perform wound ballistics. A medical examiner's officer performs an autopsy.
I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of investigative reports after shootings. Never have a seen one where the police refused to question the shooter, nor where no ballistic tests were conducted.
Never.
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