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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:27:38 PM
Anyone else surprised the Sixers are only at +175 for the series? Boston is at -210.

I thought the price would be a little more inflated to encourage possible Sixers bettors, but this is tremendous value for Celts backers, in my view. 


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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:32:09 PM

Yea I like Boston in this series.  Philly should continue to struggle on offense as Boston isn't a slouch on defense.  Boston actually has game changers on offense which is something Chicago did not have with Rose out. 

My only worry would be Pierce's health.  Celtics should be able to finish off Philly even if Pierce is only as good as he was in the last 2 ATL games though.  He has to be on the floor though.

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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:35:24 PM
Sixers are younger and more athletic And the Old Men are clearly not what they used to be....Not saying take the sixers but I wouldnt be that suprised if they beat Boston..I think at one point today it was -240 on 5dimes but of course it got bet down
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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:37:38 PM
If the Sixers can extend this series to 6 or 7 they will probably win it. This short, brutal season has taken it's toll on Pierce and Garnet. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:42:26 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

Yea I like Boston in this series.  Philly should continue to struggle on offense as Boston isn't a slouch on defense.  Boston actually has game changers on offense which is something Chicago did not have with Rose out. 

My only worry would be Pierce's health.  Celtics should be able to finish off Philly even if Pierce is only as good as he was in the last 2 ATL games though.  He has to be on the floor though.


If Pierce remains gimpy this will be an interesting series. I don't think he will though. Allen looked awful last night --he couldn't even stay with Hinrich. The Sixers should be able to take advantage of his bum ankle. Rondo and Garnett are playing like studs and they will likely be the difference in this series. No one on the Sixers can consistently guard KG.
Collins knows his only advantage is youth/speed and he needs to push and possibly press(at times) to create turnovers. This will not be easy against Rondo but it's the only way the Sixers will be able to generate easy points. Half court sets will lead to their death if they play into the Celts slower pace. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:46:19 PM
a couple hours ago the series price was Boston (-275)... now it is already down to Boston (-205) and dropping...


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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:51:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:

a couple hours ago the series price was Boston (-275)... now it is already down to Boston (-205) and dropping...



Quite interesting, if the series price continues to drop...
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Posted: 5/11/2012 1:59:12 PM
RONDO WILL TAKE OVER IN THIS SERIES. GARNETT IS A BEAST AND PIERCE WILL DO WHAT HE HAS TO. HOPEFULLY RAY ALLEN WILL BE PRODUCTIVE. PHILLY SCARES ME WITH THOSE YOUNG GUNS. I AM A CELTIC FAN BUT THIS SHOULD BE A GOOD SERIES. I THINK RONDO IS THE KEY.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:16:10 PM
sweep boston wins 4-0 easy
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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:16:32 PM

I haven't called much right at all this playoffs but it wouldn't shock me at all if Philly won this series.  Philadelphia has one of the better teams in the East but their biggest problem is not their talent but more their mental state and confidence issues.  That's why they continued to lose games to good games in close affairs.

Now they beat the number 1 seeded Bulls.  The Sixers think they are a legitimate team, I don't care whether Rose and Noah were out they know that's a huge accomplishment, but I don't think they'll have a letdown as this was a team that at one point in the year was seeded number 2 in the East.  They know they can compete with Boston and after winning 3 close close games versus the Bulls and winning an overtime road game to end the year in Indiana and a big must-win game in Milwaukee to finish the Bucks.  This is no longer the Sixers team that crumbles in close games, but one that really believes they can win.  The Philly fans see that too and are really getting behind their team now, not that nervous, quiet feeling you got from them after Sixers were struggling after their 20-9 start.

Atlanta is also one of the more physical teams in the league on defense, and even though the Celts won in 6 I think the series they had with the Hawks will have taken a lot of energy out of them.

I wouldn't hit Sixers series and I don't see any value in laying -200 or so on a Celtics wager in a very close series between 2 good defensive teams.  I would wager games during this series.  Most people can't see the Sixers in the 3rd round but it's never out of the realm.

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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:17:42 PM
Also Holiday is a great on-ball defender so Rondo won't do as well as he did against Teague and the Sixers have the atheltic bigs to give KG trouble and Igoudala to smother Pierce.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:31:10 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtbaker:

I haven't called much right at all this playoffs but it wouldn't shock me at all if Philly won this series.  Philadelphia has one of the better teams in the East but their biggest problem is not their talent but more their mental state and confidence issues.  That's why they continued to lose games to good games in close affairs.

Now they beat the number 1 seeded Bulls.  The Sixers think they are a legitimate team, I don't care whether Rose and Noah were out they know that's a huge accomplishment, but I don't think they'll have a letdown as this was a team that at one point in the year was seeded number 2 in the East.  They know they can compete with Boston and after winning 3 close close games versus the Bulls and winning an overtime road game to end the year in Indiana and a big must-win game in Milwaukee to finish the Bucks.  This is no longer the Sixers team that crumbles in close games, but one that really believes they can win.  The Philly fans see that too and are really getting behind their team now, not that nervous, quiet feeling you got from them after Sixers were struggling after their 20-9 start.

Atlanta is also one of the more physical teams in the league on defense, and even though the Celts won in 6 I think the series they had with the Hawks will have taken a lot of energy out of them.

I wouldn't hit Sixers series and I don't see any value in laying -200 or so on a Celtics wager in a very close series between 2 good defensive teams.  I would wager games during this series.  Most people can't see the Sixers in the 3rd round but it's never out of the realm.

Got that right: you haven't called garbage in weeks, especially in hockey!!! You spat out mad BS about the Bruins going to the cup and the Kings not going far, at all.  I'll take whatever suggestions you have and bet the exact opposite.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:39:57 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by stevopa:

Got that right: you haven't called garbage in weeks, especially in hockey!!! You spat out mad BS about the Bruins going to the cup and the Kings not going far, at all.  I'll take whatever suggestions you have and bet the exact opposite.

glad to help buddy

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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:40:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtbaker:

I haven't called much right at all this playoffs but it wouldn't shock me at all if Philly won this series.  Philadelphia has one of the better teams in the East but their biggest problem is not their talent but more their mental state and confidence issues.  That's why they continued to lose games to good games in close affairs.

Now they beat the number 1 seeded Bulls.  The Sixers think they are a legitimate team, I don't care whether Rose and Noah were out they know that's a huge accomplishment, but I don't think they'll have a letdown as this was a team that at one point in the year was seeded number 2 in the East.  They know they can compete with Boston and after winning 3 close close games versus the Bulls and winning an overtime road game to end the year in Indiana and a big must-win game in Milwaukee to finish the Bucks.  This is no longer the Sixers team that crumbles in close games, but one that really believes they can win.  The Philly fans see that too and are really getting behind their team now, not that nervous, quiet feeling you got from them after Sixers were struggling after their 20-9 start.

Atlanta is also one of the more physical teams in the league on defense, and even though the Celts won in 6 I think the series they had with the Hawks will have taken a lot of energy out of them.

I wouldn't hit Sixers series and I don't see any value in laying -200 or so on a Celtics wager in a very close series between 2 good defensive teams.  I would wager games during this series.  Most people can't see the Sixers in the 3rd round but it's never out of the realm.


I agree that, mentally, the Sixers have become much stronger these last few weeks, with multiple 4th quarter strong showings against motivated opposition. 
The Sixers have no pressure on them to do anything else this season. They have already accomplished more than last season and no one will be picking them to win this series. The Celtics may fall into a slight lull and have lapses(I don't think they respect the young Sixers as much as the veteran Hawks) in this series as they look ahead to Miami.  In the end though, they have too much experience and the closers to finish off Philly, imo.

However, Philly, I feel, has a great chance to steal game 1 tomorrow. The Celtics will not have any significant rest and Philly may be able to capitalize on their one distinct advantage, their youth. And perhaps a newly found confidence.

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Posted: 5/11/2012 2:46:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by stevopa:

Got that right: you haven't called garbage in weeks, especially in hockey!!! You spat out mad BS about the Bruins going to the cup and the Kings not going far, at all.  I'll take whatever suggestions you have and bet the exact opposite.

Please go to the hockey forum to discuss your anger and failed bets. Thanks.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:09:27 PM
It is difficult to say whether -200 for Celtic win the series is a value. But I think they will somehow outplay this young 76ers team, heavily struggling in offence and having far less talent and experience. my lean either 4/2 or 4/3 for Boston is the call.
Better value is Spurs to win the West for +140.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:12:26 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:


Please go to the hockey forum to discuss your anger and failed bets. Thanks.
Apparently, you missed the point: my bets were winners based on this guys opinions about betting the other way.  Just wanted to clear that up: thanks!
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:12:37 PM
I hope Philly can pull this off, but I am not too optimistic.  My two big futures in the East were the Bulls and the Sixers (at very long odds).  I also have a little on Indy, but it is looking to me like Miami/Boston in the Eastern finals, and I don't think Boston will be able to stop Miami.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:30:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by stevopa:

Apparently, you missed the point: my bets were winners based on this guys opinions about betting the other way.  Just wanted to clear that up: thanks!

Your "point" was never clear. Your animosity and juvenile attitude were. Hence, my simple request. Thanks and good luck.
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:40:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by consultant:

It is difficult to say whether -200 for Celtic win the series is a value. But I think they will somehow outplay this young 76ers team, heavily struggling in offence and having far less talent and experience. my lean either 4/2 or 4/3 for Boston is the call.
Better value is Spurs to win the West for +140.

I think the better value, at this point, lies with the Celtics at -210 to win one series rather than the Spurs at +140, to win two series. If the Celtics win, I can always roll over some money to a Spurs WCF bet, since I don't think it's going to be a huge disparity in price(maybe -120?) if they play OKC.

The Celtics are definitely the better team in this series, as long as their health stays stable. The Spurs and OKC(likely scenario in the WCF)are more evenly matched. I think the Spurs should win the West, but if the Spurs have to play Memphis and then possibly OKC, it will be a very tough haul. No clear disparity in talent, as with this Sixers/Celtics series.

I may wait until after Game 1 tomorrow to make a series wager on the Celtics, if the Sixers win, which I think they might.

Good luck.

 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:47:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:

Anyone else surprised the Sixers are only at +175 for the series? Boston is at -210.

I thought the price would be a little more inflated to encourage possible Sixers bettors, but this is tremendous value for Celts backers, in my view. 




Not really.  I did think that 76ers would be a little more underdogged because I cannot see that much action on +175...

I do think 76ers have a chance, about 2:1 chance.  This should be a very interesting series if the regular season was any indicator.  76ers had their shot to have HCA in this one but slipped from #3 to #8 since the all-star break.  Part of that had to do with scheduling and opponent strength got better then.  Also Philly has consistently been banged up all season - but no serious injuries to keep guys out for an extended amount of time.  Collins has his players doing 45 minutes of yoga each day in order to keep their bodies in shape for this type of season.  He also has a solid bench that can match the Boston bench in production each night.  Even more importantly he has all of the players on the same page playing some very good defensive sets and they do not turn the ball over often at all.  I expect probably each and every game to be close and decided within 10 points. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:49:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mtbaker:

Also Holiday is a great on-ball defender so Rondo won't do as well as he did against Teague and the Sixers have the atheltic bigs to give KG trouble and Igoudala to smother Pierce.


Glad there is someone here that watches Philly basketball

Holiday is the real deal.  He definitely has the potential to be an elite guard in this league.  He's just gotta stay aggressive. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 3:52:14 PM
But as far as odds go, I would wait until later in the series after Game 2 probably to look to play it and hope some value has been restored to either side.  The opening odds look right on for this series IMO. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 4:01:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mikado:



Not really.  I did think that 76ers would be a little more underdogged because I cannot see that much action on +175...

I do think 76ers have a chance, about 2:1 chance.  This should be a very interesting series if the regular season was any indicator.  76ers had their shot to have HCA in this one but slipped from #3 to #8 since the all-star break.  Part of that had to do with scheduling and opponent strength got better then.  Also Philly has consistently been banged up all season - but no serious injuries to keep guys out for an extended amount of time.  Collins has his players doing 45 minutes of yoga each day in order to keep their bodies in shape for this type of season.  He also has a solid bench that can match the Boston bench in production each night.  Even more importantly he has all of the players on the same page playing some very good defensive sets and they do not turn the ball over often at all.  I expect probably each and every game to be close and decided within 10 points. 

Well said Mikado. 

I think the Sixers depth will give the Celtics serious issues. Williams, Holiday and Turner can all potentially present some problems for the C's with Allen hobbled. Holiday will definitely defend Rondo better than Teague. 
The Sixers just don't turn the ball over and this will be huge against a constantly swiping C's squad. Plus, the Sixers will hopefully carry over their improved FT attempts from the Bulls series, since they went to the line so infrequently during the season. Ultimately, the Sixers D should keep these games within range, but I can't envision them taking 4 games from Boston. I was expecting them to be at least at +215 or higher. 
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Posted: 5/11/2012 10:25:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by royboymiami:

sweep boston wins 4-0 easy


Sixers in 7, and then they get swept by the Heat. 
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