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Posted: 2/15/2012 1:47:47 PM
Is there such thing as too much milk?? I drink an absolute ton of milk. Its probably 5 gallons of milk per week on the low end. Someone just told me that's "Too much" but I never thought there was such a thing!

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Posted: 2/15/2012 2:04:02 PM
There is a fair amount of carbs and fat in milk, so probably not too good regardless of what diet you choose. I drink 1 cup (16 oz) a day with breakfast.

I used to get that Silk stuff, not too bad. A little expensive though.
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Posted: 2/15/2012 2:06:52 PM
I rarely ever drink milk, its not that I don't like it...its just a lot of calories, fat, and carbs and I am trying to cut my carbs. Milk is good...but the only time I even used to drink it before was with cereal. 
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Posted: 2/15/2012 3:02:12 PM

Milk is the only source of food that contains all of the nutrients you need.

Unless have digestive issues, nothing wrong with milk.  Loaded with nutrients.

 

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Posted: 2/15/2012 3:03:36 PM

Yesterday it was orange juice and apples.  A month ago it was eggs, and today it is milk?

The best 4 foods you can eat.

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Posted: 2/15/2012 3:05:18 PM
And if extrapolate........ may even may be able to make a case for ice cream but........ Milk is "safe" to eat.
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Ice cream is probably better for you than pizza.
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Posted: 2/15/2012 6:45:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

Milk is the only source of food that contains all of the nutrients you need.

Unless have digestive issues, nothing wrong with milk.  Loaded with nutrients.

 



You meant to say meat instead of milk, correct?

Humans are the only species that drink milk after being babies. You ever taste warm breast milk as an adult? yuck

I used to love milk. still love choc milk, but that is a special treat. Drank raw milk for awhile, got the gut flora n fauna really going wild. Then i was using coconut milk for a bit. Haven't had any around for a while, don't ever really need it here.

Milk is loaded with lactose, i would say there's definitely such a thing as too much milk. and it's expensive. But i will not lie, i drank milk in morning and with supper for most my life
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Posted: 2/15/2012 10:04:31 PM
Milk can be a polarizing topic.  For the last decade, I've drank skim milk.  Safe to say it's #2 on my intake with H2O being #1.  I've been wrestling lately with eliminating it from my diet.  The sugar (lactose) and calories (85 per 1 cup) can have ramifications.  There can be weight gain associated with consuming as much as we do, because I'm right there with you at 5 gallons a week.  I'm not lactose intolerant (that I know of) yet years of fluctuating insulin levels to regulate all of it makes me wonder if it's making me prediabetic along with High Fructose Corn Syrup.  Now avoiding HFCS like the plague.  If you've got a twitter account, follow guys like Mark Hyman, or pull up "The Bitter Truth" on YouTube to get educated about sugar. 
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Posted: 2/15/2012 11:22:39 PM

Here's a link to a great milk debate tomorrow at Harvard.

 

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reading-ingredients-tales-health-conscious-mom/2012/feb/15/harvard-food-law-society-host-raw-milk-debate/#.Tzx27z791wE.twitter

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Posted: 2/15/2012 11:58:26 PM
This is a good article about most humans not being able to digest milk.  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm?csp=34

The American Dairy Council has done the best job ever of all the food-marketing marketers of pulling the wool over people's eyes with respects to milk. All of their ads have been able to convince the public that even though every single species of mammal weens off of milk after being alive for a few years milk is something that Humans should drink throughout life. 

Even though milk contains all of the essential amino acids,  it is high in carbs and sugar and contains very little fat.  For me some of the concerns regarding milk include a high insulinemic response, lactose intolerance, casein protein, recombinant bovine growth hormone, betacellulin.  Milk digestion begins, for those who are capable of it, with the conversion of lactose into glucose in the small intestine followed by elevated insulin levels.  Just because you can digest it does mean that it is good for you. As an alternative, you are better off drinking heavy cream which has no carbs and sugar and is high in fat and contains amino acids.  
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Posted: 2/16/2012 2:57:52 AM
Great take SharpAction!  Couldn't have said it better myself, and of all places, a gambling website. 
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Posted: 2/17/2012 2:44:59 PM
milk gives me the shits. i still drink a lot though.
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Posted: 2/17/2012 11:54:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Degenerate:

Is there such thing as too much milk?? I drink an absolute ton of milk. Its probably 5 gallons of milk per week on the low end. Someone just told me that's "Too much" but I never thought there was such a thing!

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Only health concern w/ drinking too much milk is the high calcium content which will reduce the amount of magnesium in your body. Magnesium naturally bonds w/ calcium. Low magnesium can result in serious health issues.

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Posted: 2/20/2012 12:52:35 AM
Only way to drink milk is RAW. Pasteurized milk kills all the nutrients and good bacteria. I've been drinking raw milk for over 2 years now and no more allergies or lactose intolerance. Also, I drink whole milk that is at least 4% fat. The fat is raw and not oxidized. The human body does not recognize pasteurized milk and that is why there are so many dairy allergies. I am lucky to be able to buy raw milk in California.
Remember, heat destroys everything. The most important thing that I left out is that raw milk comes from grass fed cows and not corn fed. Cows are designed to eat grass and not corn. That makes a big difference in the quality of the milk. You can't get healthy from a sick animal. Hope this helps
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Posted: 2/20/2012 11:27:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by be easy:



You meant to say meat instead of milk, correct?

Humans are the only species that drink milk after being babies. You ever taste warm breast milk as an adult? yuck

I used to love milk. still love choc milk, but that is a special treat. Drank raw milk for awhile, got the gut flora n fauna really going wild. Then i was using coconut milk for a bit. Haven't had any around for a while, don't ever really need it here.

Milk is loaded with lactose, i would say there's definitely such a thing as too much milk. and it's expensive. But i will not lie, i drank milk in morning and with supper for most my life

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Posted: 2/20/2012 2:38:44 PM
Be easy, we are the only mammals to cook our food too. So what's your point?? Cows have been feeding humans for hundreds of years.
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Posted: 3/3/2012 4:56:13 PM
Dairy should be avoided totally. Leads to major problems health wise. 5 gallons a week is slow suicide. Much better ways to get dense nutrient foods. Show me a heavy dairy user and I will show you a multitude of health problems.
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Posted: 3/7/2012 7:12:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH2l8amKdcg

 

Good summary on milk/dairy from Esselstyn.

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Posted: 3/8/2012 10:31:32 PM
Moderation and diversity of foods are keys to a healthy diet.  Public is mostly on the side of milk if strong sales are any indication.  Milk is one of the most nutritious beverages for lactose tolerant animals.  Health advantages outweigh disadvantages.  If you are trapped on a island and need to survive on a single food, milk is more healthy than pop, coffee and alcohol.   
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Posted: 3/8/2012 10:32:04 PM
Moderation and diversity of foods are keys to a healthy diet.  Public is mostly on the side of milk if strong sales are any indication.  Milk is one of the most nutritious beverages for lactose tolerant animals.  Health advantages outweigh disadvantages.  If you are trapped on a island and need to survive on a single food, milk is more healthy than pop, coffee and alcohol.   
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:48:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:


idiotic quote from an idiot....

Name another species then.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:49:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sharpaction:

This is a good article about most humans not being able to digest milk.  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm?csp=34

The American Dairy Council has done the best job ever of all the food-marketing marketers of pulling the wool over people's eyes with respects to milk. All of their ads have been able to convince the public that even though every single species of mammal weens off of milk after being alive for a few years milk is something that Humans should drink throughout life. 

Even though milk contains all of the essential amino acids,  it is high in carbs and sugar and contains very little fat.  For me some of the concerns regarding milk include a high insulinemic response, lactose intolerance, casein protein, recombinant bovine growth hormone, betacellulin.  Milk digestion begins, for those who are capable of it, with the conversion of lactose into glucose in the small intestine followed by elevated insulin levels.  Just because you can digest it does mean that it is good for you. As an alternative, you are better off drinking heavy cream which has no carbs and sugar and is high in fat and contains amino acids.  

What are your thoughts on soy milk.

 

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Posted: 3/22/2012 1:25:40 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

What are your thoughts on soy milk.

 


Soy milk has a few positives. People who are sensitive to dairy are able to consume soy milk because it contains no gluten, it is casein free, and contains no lactose. There are some vitamins and nutrients in it but in small quantities. Soy milk is low on the glycemic index which is good for people who are watching their blood sugar.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend it. One of my concerns with soy in general are the phytoestrogens which bind to estrogen receptors. These can cause severe hormonal imbalances over time in both men and women. Between 80-90 % of soy grown in America is genetically modified and the protein from soy is not complete protein. Another issue is that drinking soy milk can interfere with the digestion of protein. The reason for this is that soy inhibits protease which is the enzyme which breaks down protein. If you are going to drink milk then I would suggest drinking raw milk or heavy cream as an alternative.
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:10:23 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

milk gives me the shits. i still drink a lot though.


It used to do the same for me and i was drinking 2 percent.
I switched over to a natural whole milk without all the added antibotics and chemicals. Now i dont get the shits anymore.

But from what i read, humans really dont need to drink milk as adults, something about how are bodies change after we are not babies anymore.
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